Words Spreading: A Good Friend Bailing On PS3 because of Ram Allocation

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#1 Slimmin360
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Yet another person i know is giving up on PS3 because he loves Skyrim so much and was very angry to discover how Sony allocated the ram in the PS3 hardware.

Once he saw how smoothly Skyrim ran on my 360, he said he had enough, as soon as he could afford it he was trading up his PS3 for the 360 to play Skyrim and other multiplat games much smoother.

Sad fact for Sony fans but true.

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#2 HaloinventedFPS
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>256mb ram

>2012

lol Sony

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#3 Chris_Williams
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why would sony fans care about this?

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#4 ActionRemix
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It's true. Skyrim on PS3 is intolerable.
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why not blame Bethesda for not tweaking their game for the 5+ year hardware?
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#6 Slimmin360
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why would sony fans care about this?

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Well if there both Sony and Skyrim fans, then i think they would care about this, because apparently people who own the PS3 only and then witness the difference in the way that Skyrim plays on each system tend to envy and want the 360 version more.
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#7 HaloinventedFPS
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why not blame Bethesda for not tweaking their game for the 5+ year hardware?hiryu3

they allready gimped the game to run on consoles and screwed over PC gamers, you want them to gimp it even more?

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#8 Slimmin360
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why not blame Bethesda for not tweaking their game for the 5+ year hardware?hiryu3
You can't blame a software developer for a hardware issue. Sony obviously should have installed a solid one chunk 512 chip for dev's to utilize as they saw fit.
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#9 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

why would sony fans care about this?

Slimmin360
Well if there both Sony and Skyrim fans, then i think they would care about this, because apparently people who own the PS3 only and then witness the difference in the way that Skyrim plays on each system tend to envy and want the 360 version more.

i'm a fan of the ps3 more so then my 360 and guess what... i got the pc version, tell your friend to save up for a pc if he really wants to play mulitplats smoother and better.
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it runs fine in the PS3, what do you mean by smooothly?

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#11 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

why would sony fans care about this?

Chris_Williams
Well if there both Sony and Skyrim fans, then i think they would care about this, because apparently people who own the PS3 only and then witness the difference in the way that Skyrim plays on each system tend to envy and want the 360 version more.

i'm a fan of the ps3 more so then my 360 and guess what... i got the pc version, tell your friend to save up for a pc if he really wants to play mulitplats smoother and better.

This thread does not include Skyrim on PC, this is for gamers who play Skyrim on consoles only.
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#12 mrmusicman247
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Why should I care what your friend did?
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#13 Slimmin360
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it runs fine in the PS3, what do you mean by smooothly?

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I mean buttery smooth framerate, the PS3 still has ton's of lag and freeze up's and the 360 has hardly any lag at all.
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#14 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Well if there both Sony and Skyrim fans, then i think they would care about this, because apparently people who own the PS3 only and then witness the difference in the way that Skyrim plays on each system tend to envy and want the 360 version more.

i'm a fan of the ps3 more so then my 360 and guess what... i got the pc version, tell your friend to save up for a pc if he really wants to play mulitplats smoother and better.

This thread does not include Skyrim on PC, this is for gamers who play Skyrim on consoles only.

what problems was your friend having with skryim on the ps3
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#15 Slimmin360
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Why should I care what your friend did? mrmusicman247
It's not just my friend, i've already jumped ship myself to the 360 version, and i heard people on this very site who've done the same, not to mention other people in my little circle of life and other's on different game site forums have admitted to doing the same. Thats why i said in the title " Words Spreading".
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#16 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] i'm a fan of the ps3 more so then my 360 and guess what... i got the pc version, tell your friend to save up for a pc if he really wants to play mulitplats smoother and better.

This thread does not include Skyrim on PC, this is for gamers who play Skyrim on consoles only.

what problems was your friend having with skryim on the ps3

He had constant lag and freeze up problems, and thats after the updates and shutting off his autosave feature, they seemed to work as temporary fixes, then mere hours of gameplay later the lag and freeze ups come back.
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#17 FlamesOfGrey
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While Sony shares some of the blame for making the hardware hard to develop for. Skyrim is purely Bethesdas fault in this case. It's their 3rd game on PS3 so, there's no excuse, they should know the hardware enough to know if they can make the game run well on it or not. The 360 was the lead platform from what I hear and developers have always said porting to the PS3 would result in mediocore results. Finally Bethesda even though they made great games content wise have always been sloppy when it comes to their programming and quality control. The PS3 has been out for years and this generation will be over in a couple years so, no use in complainting now.
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#18 balfe1990
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Crap thread.

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#19 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"] This thread does not include Skyrim on PC, this is for gamers who play Skyrim on consoles only.

what problems was your friend having with skryim on the ps3

He had constant lag and freeze up problems, and thats after the updates and shutting off his autosave feature, they seemed to work as temporary fixes, then mere hours of gameplay later the lag and freeze ups come back.

does your friend remotely blame Bethesda or is it all the ps3's fault?
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#20 JohnF111
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Why would we care what one person does, we aren't spiritually tethered together so that when one person leaves we all feel a wave of pain and scream in anguish for a duration, hope he enjoys his Xbox 360 just shows there are still some who don't let brand name decide how they play their games.
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#21 Slimmin360
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Crap thread.

balfe1990
Why is it crap? because it doesn't involve PC gamers....which you obviously are since your specs are listed in your sig...
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#22 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] what problems was your friend having with skryim on the ps3

He had constant lag and freeze up problems, and thats after the updates and shutting off his autosave feature, they seemed to work as temporary fixes, then mere hours of gameplay later the lag and freeze ups come back.

does your friend remotely blame Bethesda or is it all the ps3's fault?

No, he's like me you don't blame a software developer for a hardware issue, Bethesda obviously did what they could with what little they had to work with by way of ram on the PS3.
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#23 DeX2010
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I believe the PS3 actually has 512MB RAM, but its split between graphics and the system. 256 is reserved for graphics only, 256 for the system. This can cause problems, especially with Skyrims save structure. The 360 in comparison only reserves 32mb for the system, leaving the remaining 480mb free for developers to use in any way they want to. I hope the next gen uses at least 2GB of RAM, but thats probably too hopeful.
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Why should I care what your friend did? Slimmin360
It's not just my friend, i've already jumped ship myself to the 360 version, and i heard people on this very site who've done the same, not to mention other people in my little circle of life and other's on different game site forums have admitted to doing the same. Thats why i said in the title " Words Spreading".

People have been jumping ship from the beginning. This isn't anything new.
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#25 majestix1988
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Its Bethseda fault rushing it to make its exact date release instead telling The PS3 Version will have to hold......to fixing its problems to release next year or watever(i guess their Beta Testers are sucks on playing PS3 version)

Its them....nothing changes its just they work so fast and never intended other console's properties like Multiplatforms you see in PS3

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#26 Slimmin360
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I believe the PS3 actually has 512MB RAM, but its split between graphics and the system. 256 for graphics, 256 for the system. This can cause problems, especially with Skyrims save structure.DeX2010
Right it does, but they should've did it in the 512 chunk like 360 has, instead of splitting it into the two 256 chunks. That way dev's have 512 to allocate any way they want, instead of having to worry about just 256 for graphics and 256 for everything else.
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#27 Badosh
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Crap thread.

balfe1990
Agreed.
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#28 g0ddyX
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Blame not the old console, blame the developer for not having Utilised it properly.

Killzone, Uncharted, COD, GTA4 etc all look and play great...

Just play Skyrim on PC if you want performance and graphics. Done

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#29 ispeakfact
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Sorry. Don't believe this for a second. Never have I heard anyone dump a console because of ram allocation. Besides, I've put over 100 hours into PS3 Skyrim, and other than about a dozen freezes, it's been fine. My brother in law has it for the 360, and I don't know how anyone can say the 360 version is better. The screen tearing makes my eyes bleed. So...pics that your friend dumped it, or didn't happen.
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#30 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Crap thread.

Badosh
Agreed.

Then leave, you don't have to participate in it.
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#31 Badosh
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Then leave, you don't have to participate in it.Slimmin360
I'd rather stay and complain.
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#32 Slimmin360
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Sorry. Don't believe this for a second. Never have I heard anyone dump a console because of ram allocation. Besides, I've put over 100 hours into PS3 Skyrim, and other than about a dozen freezes, it's been fine. My brother in law has it for the 360, and I don't know how anyone can say the 360 version is better. The screen tearing makes my eyes bleed. So...pics that your friend dumped it, or didn't happen. ispeakfact
Pictures??? pictures of what? of him walking into the game store and trading his PS3 system for the 360 ? Oh yeah right because i have nothing better to do, but to keep tabs on him and find out when he's finally going to the store and trading up, and then i'll leave my wife and kids to go out in the 20 degree cold weather and take a drive with him to photograph the whole transaction, so you can see it......yeah right. Gimme' a break, what are you 12?
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As poorly thought out as the PS3 was hardware-wise, Bethesda should get the blame.
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Sorry. Don't believe this for a second. Never have I heard anyone dump a console because of ram allocation. Besides, I've put over 100 hours into PS3 Skyrim, and other than about a dozen freezes, it's been fine. My brother in law has it for the 360, and I don't know how anyone can say the 360 version is better. The screen tearing makes my eyes bleed. So...pics that your friend dumped it, or didn't happen. Slimmin360
Pictures??? pictures of what? of him walking into the game store and trading his PS3 system for the 360 ? Oh yeah right because i have nothing better to do, but to keep tabs on him and find out when he's finally going to the store and trading up, and then i'll leave my wife and kids to go out in the 20 degree cold weather and take a drive with him to photograph the whole transaction, so you can see it......yeah right. Gimme' a break, what are you 12?

i doubt by the way your acting you have a wife and kids and if you do, i feel sorry for them

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#35 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Sorry. Don't believe this for a second. Never have I heard anyone dump a console because of ram allocation. Besides, I've put over 100 hours into PS3 Skyrim, and other than about a dozen freezes, it's been fine. My brother in law has it for the 360, and I don't know how anyone can say the 360 version is better. The screen tearing makes my eyes bleed. So...pics that your friend dumped it, or didn't happen. Chris_Williams

Pictures??? pictures of what? of him walking into the game store and trading his PS3 system for the 360 ? Oh yeah right because i have nothing better to do, but to keep tabs on him and find out when he's finally going to the store and trading up, and then i'll leave my wife and kids to go out in the 20 degree cold weather and take a drive with him to photograph the whole transaction, so you can see it......yeah right. Gimme' a break, what are you 12?

i doubt by the way your acting you have a wife and kids and if you do, i feel sorry for them

Ok..i'm missing something here, why exactly do you feel sorry for them, because i'm writing and participating in a thread, voicing my opinion about Sony's ram allocation? How does any of this have anything to do with the kind of person, husband or father i am? You don't know me, i'm a very good person, as i'm sure most people are in this forum, and if your judging a person by the type of thread their writing, then i would say you have a lot to learn about people and social skills.
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My good friend sold his 360 because it has no games.
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#37 ispeakfact
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My good friend sold his 360 because it has no games. Heil68
Interesting. Mine did the same thing.
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#38 commonfate
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Word spreading???

Maybe it's just me but it seems like people are bailing on the 360 and jumping to the PS3 :?

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#39 Slimmin360
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My good friend sold his 360 because it has no games. Heil68
Really? Hmm....Gears series, Fable series, The Halo series, Forza series, Left for Dead series, Alan Wake, all great games.

So i wouldn't say it has " no games ".

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Yeah well I have like 5000 friends and they all say Xbox sucks.

Also they're all millionaires and really smart.

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I hope the next gen uses at least 2GB of RAM, but thats probably too hopeful.DeX2010
To have 2 GB RAM in a PS4 or Xbox 720, you'd need an attic fan to cool it enough to stop hardware failure.:lol: Consoles have heat problems due to bad case & fan design.
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#42 loosingENDS
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Yet another person i know is giving up on PS3 because he loves Skyrim so much and was very angry to discover how Sony allocated the ram in the PS3 hardware.

Once he saw how smoothly Skyrim ran on my 360, he said he had enough, as soon as he could afford it he was trading up his PS3 for the 360 to play Skyrim and other multiplat games much smoother.

Sad fact for Sony fans but true.

Slimmin360

Well, if he likes RPGs, 360 is the only way anyway

Now he can also play the best Mass Effect 3 and Dark Souls version, best Skyrim, Bastion, soon Witcher 2, Fable 2-3-JOurney, Lost Odyssey, Blue ragon, Dust, Tales of Vesperia real english version etc etc

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#43 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

Yet another person i know is giving up on PS3 because he loves Skyrim so much and was very angry to discover how Sony allocated the ram in the PS3 hardware.

Once he saw how smoothly Skyrim ran on my 360, he said he had enough, as soon as he could afford it he was trading up his PS3 for the 360 to play Skyrim and other multiplat games much smoother.

Sad fact for Sony fans but true.

loosingENDS

Well, if he likes RPGs, 360 is the only way anyway

Now he can also play the best Mass Effect 3 and Dark Souls version, best Skyrim, Bastion, soon Witcher 2, Fable 2-3-JOurney, Lost Odyssey, Blue ragon, Dust, Tales of Vesperia real english version etc etc

Wouldnt even call fable 3 an RPG more like an adventure, same goes for ME3 which is multiplat and im sure DS is better on PS3.

oh wait its loosingEnds the kid thats the opinion equal to an NK citizen.

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#44 Peredith
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[QUOTE="hiryu3"]why not blame Bethesda for not tweaking their game for the 5+ year hardware?Slimmin360
You can't blame a software developer for a hardware issue. Sony obviously should have installed a solid one chunk 512 chip for dev's to utilize as they saw fit.

But its been 5 years. It's notl ike the PS3 is brand new hardware and devs are still getting to grips with it. Bethesda are worse than Obsidian when it comes to coding.

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#45 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="hiryu3"]why not blame Bethesda for not tweaking their game for the 5+ year hardware?Peredith

You can't blame a software developer for a hardware issue. Sony obviously should have installed a solid one chunk 512 chip for dev's to utilize as they saw fit.

But its been 5 years. It's notl ike the PS3 is brand new hardware and devs are still getting to grips with it. Bethesda are worse than Obsidian when it comes to coding.

shouldve done what they done with the oblivion port and gave it to 4J studios :P

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#46 clone01
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Yet another person i know is giving up on PS3 because he loves Skyrim so much and was very angry to discover how Sony allocated the ram in the PS3 hardware.

Once he saw how smoothly Skyrim ran on my 360, he said he had enough, as soon as he could afford it he was trading up his PS3 for the 360 to play Skyrim and other multiplat games much smoother.

Sad fact for Sony fans but true.

Slimmin360
How old are you? Like 12?
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#48 loosingENDS
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Its the engine for the most part but the yes the PS3's split RAM is alo making it worse, time for new consles.TheGuardian03

Xbox 360 is doing fine, i definatly dont need a new xbox for another 2-3 years

If i only had a PS3, i would change instantly to a 360 myself too, for Skyrim, Dark Souls, Mass Effect best versions, best JRPGs like LO,TOV,BD and Witcher 2

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So he is going to miss games like: Uncharted, God of War, Twisted Metal, Demon's Souls, Heavenly Sword, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid to play Skyrim smoother? Hm, looks like he made a smart choice.

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#50 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Its the engine for the most part but the yes the PS3's split RAM is alo making it worse, time for new consles.loosingENDS

Xbox 360 is doing fine, i definatly dont need a new xbox for another 2-3 years

If i only had a PS3, i would change instantly to a 360 myself too, for Skyrim, Dark Souls, Mass Effect best versions, best JRPGs like LO,TOV,BD and Witcher 2

Dark Souls isnt any better on 360 still has the same frame stuttering issues as the PS3 and tbh as a JRPG fan i think LO and BD were complete non events.