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And they've gone and saddled it with a game that makes it a chore to get yourself into an actual entertaining situation to use it after a while. Wahoo.Shafftehr
This argument cannot be used anymore. Instances are alot shorter, there are 10 and 25 man versions to instances with 10 being alot easier for those who cannot do 25 man(the rewards are obviously less), buffs no longer stack,so you don't have to bring the *ideal* group for raids, there are no more attunements and the importance of consumables has been toned down ALOT (one potion a fight).So I have no idea what you want them do again other than that.
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EDIT: OP I don't really agree with you, I agree WoW has pretty dynamic combat and is better than most of those games you listed but I don't think it has the best.. very close but not best as yet, just waiting on one other game to tell me.
cause in pvp it's much more intence and unpredictable.Eddie-VedderYou didn't make it clear you were talking about while fighting against humans and not... harpies or whatever. Of course fighting humans is going to be a different experience.
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]cause in pvp it's much more intence and unpredictable.JandurinYou didn't make it clear you were talking about while fighting against humans and not... harpies or whatever. Of course fighting humans is going to be a different experience. Its an online game, are you kidding me, of course hes fighting humans, thats half the experience in wow.
Its an online game, are you kidding me, of course hes fighting humans, thats half the experience in wow.BobHipJamesOh come on. That's ridiculous. I'm sure there are plenty of people that get fulfilling experiences without ever entering a battlegrounds or playing on a pvp server.
[QUOTE="BobHipJames"]Its an online game, are you kidding me, of course hes fighting humans, thats half the experience in wow.JandurinOh come on. That's ridiculous. I'm sure there are plenty of people that get fulfilling experiences without ever entering a battlegrounds or playing on a pvp server. PvE was really World of Warcraft's main focus from the beginning.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"]fine, if we're talking multiplayer RPG battles, then the MUD I used to play ROCKS WoW and every other game. No contest. And it was free.Eddie-VedderThe MUD? translate for me please :Phttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD
In computer gaming, a MUD (Multi-User Dungeon, Domain or Dimension), pronounced /mʌd/, is a multi-player computer game that combines elements of role-playing games, hack and slash style computer games and social chat rooms. Typical MUDs are text-driven, where players read descriptions of rooms, objects, events, other characters, and computer-controlled creatures or non-player characters (NPCs) in a virtual world. Players interact with each other and the world by typing commands that resemble a natural language. It has been argued that modern game-like MMORPGs, such as World of Warcraft, and social virtual worlds such as Second Life can have their origins traced back to the original MUDswikipediaIt was Age of Chaos, so it was based off of the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. And it was lorded over by Swedes!
It has very good combat. I think best will be up to taste.
The problem is that you have all these people trying to turn RPG's into things that they aren't by adding shooting elements and action elements (mass effect, Fallout, etc.). Â I think WoW does a very good job of allowing more action into the combat, but leaving it undeniably an RPG.Â
It does have a very good combat system but the fact that the game is never ending, that combat system gets very repetitive, just as everything else in the game. Hawkeye1987That's a misconception most people have relative to WoW, who said you had to play for your entire life?
Quite the opposite. WoW's combat is tedious, slow and booring. GamingcucumberThat's a horrible lie, I'm playing WoW on my laptop and browsing the internet on my desktop, your only kidding those who haven't played the game or played it to level 10 or something.
[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]Quite the opposite. WoW's combat is tedious, slow and booring. Eddie-VedderThat's a horrible lie, I'm playing WoW on my laptop and browsing the internet on my desktop, your only kidding those who haven't played the game or played it to level 10 or something. Must not be very enthralling combat if you're only half there.
[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]Quite the opposite. WoW's combat is tedious, slow and booring. Eddie-VedderThat's a horrible lie, I'm playing WoW on my laptop and browsing the internet on my desktop, your only kidding those who haven't played the game or played it to level 10 or something. Not really. I had my orc DragoonC at 60 years ago. WoW has a horrible combat system. And browsing your internet does not improve on it. It only proves how booring it is.
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]Quite the opposite. WoW's combat is tedious, slow and booring. GamingcucumberThat's a horrible lie, I'm playing WoW on my laptop and browsing the internet on my desktop, your only kidding those who haven't played the game or played it to level 10 or something. Not really. I had my orc DragoonC at 60 years ago. WoW has a horrible combat system. And browsing your internet does not improve on it. It only proves how booring it is. Orc Dragoon? Man what game am I playing?? When did blizzard add that ?=/
[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] That's a horrible lie, I'm playing WoW on my laptop and browsing the internet on my desktop, your only kidding those who haven't played the game or played it to level 10 or something. Espada12Not really. I had my orc DragoonC at 60 years ago. WoW has a horrible combat system. And browsing your internet does not improve on it. It only proves how booring it is. Orc Dragoon? Man what game am I playing?? When did blizzard add that ?=/ DragoonC is the name :?
WoW flows like an action game?
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It flows like a turn based game.... Which it essentially is.
omgimba
LOL How the **** do you confuse this for turn based gameplay?
First random pvp movie I found on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmwCguP-1AsÂ
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]cause in pvp it's much more intence and unpredictable.BobHipJamesYou didn't make it clear you were talking about while fighting against humans and not... harpies or whatever. Of course fighting humans is going to be a different experience. Its an online game, are you kidding me, of course hes fighting humans, thats half the experience in wow. Never played WoW huh? I'll speak in shooter terms for you...the majority of WoW is co-op be it 5 man, 10, 25 etc where you fight against computer controlled enemies culminating in large boss fights. PVP is growing with arenas and bgs, I never liked pvp though.
[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"] Not really. I had my orc DragoonC at 60 years ago. WoW has a horrible combat system. And browsing your internet does not improve on it. It only proves how booring it is.JandurinOrc Dragoon? Man what game am I playing?? When did blizzard add that ?=/ DragoonC is the name :? Didn't read it like that because I know there is a dragoon class in another game, but my bad if anything.
Didn't read it like that because I know there is a dragoon class in another game, but my bad if anything.Espada12That would be fun. If you could jump and be off the screen for a second and then land on an enemy's head. :o
[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] That's a horrible lie, I'm playing WoW on my laptop and browsing the internet on my desktop, your only kidding those who haven't played the game or played it to level 10 or something. Espada12Not really. I had my orc DragoonC at 60 years ago. WoW has a horrible combat system. And browsing your internet does not improve on it. It only proves how booring it is. Orc Dragoon? Man what game am I playing?? When did blizzard add that ?=/ The orc was named DragoonC.
The closest i've come to playing WoW was watching the South park spoof on the game and it did make me :lol: but I'm going to just say I really dig the M.E. combat a bunch. Maybe b/c It was tough for me to see how Bioware could do it this gen where last gens Kotor is yet my favorite game and allowed no real time combat - I dunno but I do like M.E. combat allot and I mean heck, you even get to use squad tactics. :DSecretPoliceME's combat is way to simple for a game where you can freeze the gameplay and issues orders. Bioware is looking to change that with DA though but I thought ME to be just a tad too simple, even by console standards of pick up and play.
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]The closest i've come to playing WoW was watching the South park spoof on the game and it did make me :lol: but I'm going to just say I really dig the M.E. combat a bunch. Maybe b/c It was tough for me to see how Bioware could do it this gen where last gens Kotor is yet my favorite game and allowed no real time combat - I dunno but I do like M.E. combat allot and I mean heck, you even get to use squad tactics. :DEspada12ME's combat is way to simple for a game where you can freeze the gameplay and issues orders. Bioware is looking to change that with DA though but I thought ME to be just a tad too simple, even by console standards of pick up and play.Yeah I hear ya on the pause feature and honestly, a family member was watching me play and commented that he plays so much different then I b/c he uses that feature where for me it's almost an unused feature but yeah if used, the combat can be just way too easy.
[QUOTE="omgimba"]WoW flows like an action game?
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It flows like a turn based game.... Which it essentially is.
Eddie-Vedder
LOL How the **** do you confuse this for turn based gameplay?
First random pvp movie I found on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmwCguP-1As
Compare it too any bioware DD RPG and you will notice the similarities.Â
I preferred Guild War's combat - it might be slightly more simplistic, but it's also far more balanced and skill-focused, rather than gear-focused.Planeforger
This one, limiting the # of skills you equip to 8 takes a lot more strategy than WoW, were you can equip pretty much every skill you find useful.
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...Woooo. :|
point, click, wait for enemy to die. loot. repeat.
or if its a tough enemy, point click, spam moonfire, wait for enemy to die. loot. repeat.
or if you are a priest, Heal tank, Heal tank, Heal tank, Heal rapidly dying hunter who thinks he is a tank, run out of Mana for real thank. Get blamed for raid failing.
yeah, real deep :roll:
i liked WoW but the combat was a little boring, not the beat but certainly the best for an MMO not a regualr RPG.
What class lets your "point , click, wait for enemy to die"? In other words: what class can successfully auto-attack, and win a fight?point, click, wait for enemy to die. loot. repeat.
or if its a tough enemy, point click, spam moonfire, wait for enemy to die. loot. repeat.
or if you are a priest, Heal tank, Heal tank, Heal tank, Heal rapidly dying hunter who thinks he is a tank, run out of Mana for real thank. Get blamed for raid failing.
yeah, real deep :roll:
i liked WoW but the combat was a little boring, not the beat but certainly the best for an MMO not a regualr RPG.
thegoldenpoo
[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]What class lets your "point , click, wait for enemy to die"? In other words: what class can successfully auto-attack, and win a fight? hunter (most prominently beast-master hunter) autocross +pet = most enemies fall before youpoint, click, wait for enemy to die. loot. repeat.
or if its a tough enemy, point click, spam moonfire, wait for enemy to die. loot. repeat.
or if you are a priest, Heal tank, Heal tank, Heal tank, Heal rapidly dying hunter who thinks he is a tank, run out of Mana for real thank. Get blamed for raid failing.
yeah, real deep :roll:
i liked WoW but the combat was a little boring, not the beat but certainly the best for an MMO not a regualr RPG.
Mehdi1984
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