Would cartoon graphics For the next ZELDA game be a big mistake

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#1 Juice_24
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So after reading a zelda article on IGN, Im concenred for the new ZELDA. Even though I woudl buy and love a winderwaker like zelda experience.

Im not sure if this game will endear itself with the bro dude crowd. the Next zelda need:

 

1. Epic HD system pushing graphics.

2. Some kind of Non gimmicky CO-OP

3. Epic difficulty, even if its optional

4. realistice epic graphics.

Whats your opinion? Would a wind wiker liek game be a mistake?

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#2 RyanShazam
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I would kill to have the game be the demo they showed at E3! It would be lame if the last 3 zelda games are cell shaded (Skyward Sword, Wind Waker 3D and Zelda U).

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#3 DropsofJupiter
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Either make it full cartoony like Wind Waker, or full realistic like Twilight Princess. None of this Skyward Sword sh*t.
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#4 mariokart64fan
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lol @ last zelda game ,  some one thinks nintendos leaving after zelda hd haha pachter sit down 

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#5 RyanShazam
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lol @ last zelda game ,  some one thinks nintendos leaving after zelda hd haha pachter sit down 

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#6 Inconsistancy
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Yes, not 'cause it's "kiddie" but because they already showed their Zelda tech demo and it looked phenomenal. (and WW's ugly for a cel-shaded game, missing the outline, and bobble-head characters)
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#7 Blazerdt47
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I want what was shown as HD Zelda at E3. Give us those graphics or give us nothing. It's about time to upgrade the graphics, not just cartoony.

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#8 DropsofJupiter
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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

lol @ last zelda game ,  some one thinks nintendos leaving after zelda hd haha pachter sit down 

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Reading comprehension is not his strong suit.
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#10 Renegade_Fury
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The WW dorks can go ahead and rebuy their cartoony joke in the fall. The rest of us deserve better.

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#11 Clock-w0rk
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Either make it full cartoony like Wind Waker, or full realistic like Twilight Princess. None of this Skyward Sword sh*t.DropsofJupiter

I agree with this tbh, I wouldn't mind which one as long they stick to one.

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#12 GD1551
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It needs to go for more technical visuals, Nintendo needs to show the capabilities of their console.

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#13 DropsofJupiter
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It needs to go for more technical visuals, Nintendo needs to show the capabilities of their console.

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Project X.
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#14 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

It needs to go for more technical visuals, Nintendo needs to show the capabilities of their console.

DropsofJupiter

Project X.

Not good enough compared to the zelda tech demo.

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#15 DropsofJupiter
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

It needs to go for more technical visuals, Nintendo needs to show the capabilities of their console.

GD1551

Project X.

Not good enough compared to the zelda tech demo.

It's probably actually better looking. The Zelda tech demo was a highly scaled back showpiece from a purely technological perspective (closed room/capped at 30FPS/simple polygons). X not only looks better, it also achieves all of this with massive scale.
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I want a realistic look.
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#17 campzor
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im by no means the biggest zelda fan (in fact, im not a zelda fan at all) But if i were a fan, i would expect nothing else but that tech demo level of visual fidelity
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#18 DropsofJupiter
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[QUOTE="campzor"]im by no means the biggest zelda fan (in fact, im not a zelda fan at all) But if i were a fan, i would expect nothing else but that tech demo level of visual fidelity

You're not a Zelda fan? You did not like Ocarina 3D? D:
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#19 campzor
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="campzor"]im by no means the biggest zelda fan (in fact, im not a zelda fan at all) But if i were a fan, i would expect nothing else but that tech demo level of visual fidelity

You're not a Zelda fan? You did not like Ocarina 3D? D:

im still upto that tree section (early on) Too many games keep distracting me lol, and i keep buying more games which push games back in my backlog!!
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="campzor"]im by no means the biggest zelda fan (in fact, im not a zelda fan at all) But if i were a fan, i would expect nothing else but that tech demo level of visual fidelity

You're not a Zelda fan? You did not like Ocarina 3D? D:

im still upto that tree section (early on) Too many games keep distracting me lol, and i keep buying more games which push games back in my backlog!!

Lol, I know what you mean, man. I was doing a God of War marathon in the lead up to Ascension's release, right? I got distracted by Fire Emblem Awakening, Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow: Mirror of Fate. So now in addition to those three, I also have to go back and complete God of War II, God of War III, Ni No Kuni, and of course, Pokemon Black 2. There's too much good stuff! :P
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#21 4321sniper
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YUP

Wind Waker was one of a kind, bring on the tech demo Nintendo!

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#22 Sagem28
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I don't see why they would be.

You can do some amazing things with "cartoony" graphics.

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#23 4321sniper
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The WW dorks can go ahead and rebuy their cartoony joke in the fall. The rest of us deserve better.

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well a baka gaijin like you is gonna get what he deserves

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#24 trugs26
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I don't care to be honest. I'd rather let their creative juices flow and do w/e they feel like. That's what I want.

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#25 goblaa
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There's is actually ZERO precedence of Nintendo showing anything about a game before it's announcement.

The fact that that tech demo was shown is more evidence that the game will NOT look like it, that will.

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#26 DropsofJupiter
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There's is actually ZERO precedence of Nintendo showing anything about a game before it's announcement.

The fact that that tech demo was shown is more evidence that the game will NOT look like it, that will.

goblaa
This is incorrect on so many levels, it's not even funny.
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#27 jg4xchamp
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Zelda needs some overhaul. Less padding, an improve presentation, a narrative doesn't go for another run of Link saves the princess from Gannon, no tacked on interface nonsense to pimp out a controller, and more interesting game ideas from the Zelda formula. One noteworthy one how about dungeons that don't fall into the "you just got x item, so now this dungeon is solve every puzzle using x item". Make more interesting dungeons where the puzzles require me to use x,y, and Z. Or Nintendo can get really daring and throw a f*cking q in there.

I would much prefer something new entirely, but if it has to be Zelda how about something new by that franchise's standards.

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#28 goblaa
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

There's is actually ZERO precedence of Nintendo showing anything about a game before it's announcement.

The fact that that tech demo was shown is more evidence that the game will NOT look like it, that will.

DropsofJupiter

This is incorrect on so many levels, it's not even funny.

Name one Nintendo game that had any images/footage for it shown prior to announcement.

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#29 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

There's is actually ZERO precedence of Nintendo showing anything about a game before it's announcement.

The fact that that tech demo was shown is more evidence that the game will NOT look like it, that will.

goblaa

This is incorrect on so many levels, it's not even funny.

Name one Nintendo game that had any images/footage for it shown prior to announcement.

Legend of Zelda on the gamecube, Spaceworld. It looked like a really upgraded OoT. After that Zelda was revealed again for the gamecube as Windwaker. The zelda demo shown for the WiiU is the equivalent of that spaceworld demo.
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#30 DropsofJupiter
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

There's is actually ZERO precedence of Nintendo showing anything about a game before it's announcement.

The fact that that tech demo was shown is more evidence that the game will NOT look like it, that will.

goblaa

This is incorrect on so many levels, it's not even funny.

Name one Nintendo game that had any images/footage for it shown prior to announcement.

Metroid Prime, Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Link to the Past, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Super Mario 3D Land, Pokemon Gold/Silver, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Metroid Prime Echoes. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, and you know what, I could go on forever but I really won't, I think I made my point.
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#31 ChubbyGuy40
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E3 2011 tech demo art style or gtfo. That was too good to not use.

Skyward Sword style is also acceptable because that game is beautiful in HD.

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#32 murat8
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They should do something similar to the demo they showed.
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#33 DJ-Lafleur
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Who f*cking cares. WW's ar-syle was fine, And Skyward Sword's ar-syle was fine (ouside of Link's characer model). Both games weren't weaker o oher Zelda games because of their art-style.

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I liked the gritty look of TP.
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#35 goblaa
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"] This is incorrect on so many levels, it's not even funny.DropsofJupiter

Name one Nintendo game that had any images/footage for it shown prior to announcement.

Metroid Prime, Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Link to the Past, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Super Mario 3D Land, Pokemon Gold/Silver, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Metroid Prime Echoes. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, and you know what, I could go on forever but I really won't, I think I made my point.

None of those games were shown before they were announced.

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#36 DropsofJupiter
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

Name one Nintendo game that had any images/footage for it shown prior to announcement.

goblaa

Metroid Prime, Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Link to the Past, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Super Mario 3D Land, Pokemon Gold/Silver, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Metroid Prime Echoes. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, and you know what, I could go on forever but I really won't, I think I made my point.

None of those games were shown before they were announced.

Yes they were.
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#37 SuperFlakeman
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Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and the Zelda HD tech demo are very similar but with a few cruicial differences.

Skyward Sword = TP + Colors + Impressionism/Bluryness
Zelda HD tech demo = TP  

I am fine with the TP style, and have no urge to see impressionism return, BUT they need to add colors a la Galaxy 2. 

Basically the same "mature" Link and overall visual style, but a different color scheme. Or shall I say an actual color scheme. I don't want a brown/dark mess.

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#38 Michael0134567
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Either make it full cartoony like Wind Waker, or full realistic like Twilight Princess. None of this Skyward Sword sh*t.DropsofJupiter
Lol DropsofJupiter.
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#39 nameless12345
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Well, yes.

It should look like that E3 tech-demo as that is what people are expecting and *not* another Skyward Sword.

Sales numbers are also indicating that people prefer a "realistic" visual style in the Zelda games to a cartoony one.

I would also like to see a bigger, more open (& diverse) world, a deeper combat system, (much) less hand-holding, upped difficulty (esp. for the bosses and sub-bosses, which should be hard to defeat), many intelligently designed and varried dungeons, an epic storyline, many interesting side quests, good puzzles, interesting and "deep" NPCs, populated cities, dynamically changing weather, day and night shift, seasons of the year that impact the look of the scenery and gameplay (one can dream, eh?), perhaps some recorded speech (not for Link tho), ect.

So yes, they should deliver a HD Zelda that would bring back the glory days of Ocarina of Time but for the modern times and various novelities and improvements.

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#40 silversix_
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its not like they can achieve anything decent looking on wiiu.
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#41 Bread_or_Decide
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Nintendo will never make a Zelda like that demo. They've teased fans before with the concept of "realistic" Zelda. Twilight Princess is pretty much that promise fulfilled and everyone complained.
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#42 FireEmblem_Man
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Nintendo needs to stop changing artstyle and stick with one.

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#43 LadyBlue
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I'd prefer a more realistic approach. Something like the tech demo or TP. A Zelda game with the scale of the project x game would be amazing.
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#44 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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I just hope they make the game harder, both with the combat and puzzles. The last few Zelda's have been far too easy.

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#45 SuperFlakeman
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I'd prefer a more realistic approach. Something like the tech demo or TP. A Zelda game with the scale of the project x game would be amazing.Pete-B

> Scale
> Gameplay substance

Pick one. 

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#46 SecretPolice
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Minus the fetch quest but plus voice conversations; Celda 2 would be just dandy. :D

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#47 DJ-Lafleur
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Nintendo needs to stop changing artstyle and stick with one.

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That would be awful. A changing art-style helps make each game feel different and unique from one another, why would you want to change that?

NSMB doesn't change its art-style (amongst other aspects), and look how stale that franchise has gotten.

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#48 Malta_1980
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As long as the game has great story & gameplay, fans wont mind give 'much' attention to the art-style !!

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#49 SuperFlakeman
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I just hope they make the game harder, both with the combat and puzzles. The last few Zelda's have been far too easy.

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

SS has the most challenging combat in a 3D Zelda game I find. 

TP has the best dungeons dare I say in the entire series.

I assume what you are talking about is obscurity, especially in Majora's Mask. I wouldn't necessarily equate that as being "challenging."

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#50 g0ddyX
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Skyward Sword 2?

I don't think any graphics it has would not bother a fan... even if its blocky or blurry.
A cartoon zelda is a safe bet as I highly doubt they can make a realistic zelda on the Wii:U.