Would you buy a 15$ 2D RPG on XBLA ?

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#51 obamanian
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I found a title by Water Melon software called Pier Solar

And a possible 2D RPG by Braid creator Jonathan Blow. Either of those sound right?SpruceCaboose

It was definatly not the Braid developer RPG, and they said each area would be like a work of art in full HD, so it is :) definatly not the above game :)

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#52 Lethalhazard
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Indeed, if it was something as good as chrono trigger, I'd pay 60.

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#53 AdrianWerner
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I don't own 360, but I have no problem paying 10-20$ for good indie 2D games, even a lot simplier and shorter ones than usual RPGs, I do it quite often actually.

Last year I bought Eschalon: Book 1 for 20$ and it was worth every cent, great oldschool RPG and I can't wait for Book 2

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#54 SpruceCaboose
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There is also a game called Wakfu that is a Tactical MMORPG that has a thing called the bestiary where you can see the beasts...
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#55 jknight5422
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

If it would be like maple story then yes, otherwise no.

obamanian

That is a real RPG, like say Baldur Gate, only on XBLA

Yes, if it was like Baldur's Gate, I would buy it the second it came out. I love games like that & would enjoy having one on my 360 to play.

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#56 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

If it would be like maple story then yes, otherwise no.

jknight5422

That is a real RPG, like say Baldur Gate, only on XBLA

Yes, if it was like Baldur's Gate, I would buy it the second it came out. I love games like that & would enjoy having one on my 360 to play.

I doubt though will be as big as a full priced game, but will still be bigger than most XBLA titles i guess and look far better than the old visuals of those older 2D RPG's

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#57 -Traveller-
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Ar we talking about that 2D RPG Obamanian, which there is, basically, no information on? Or just in general?

I like 2D RPG's.

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#58 waynehead895
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Depends if the trial is any good.
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#59 Animal-Mother
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In light of the new upcoming XBLA 2D RPG on 360, thatis supposed tobe pure art and bring back the adventuring and feeling/atmosphere of older amazing RPGs with unique new features and choices, i would like to see how many would buy it

It is one of my most wanted titles in 2009, could be the Braid of RPGs, but in a bigger way

obamanian
I know how much you love this game, But we have not seen a single thing. I need to see some stuff to value a purchase, whats the name of it anyways
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#60 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

In light of the new upcoming XBLA 2D RPG on 360, thatis supposed tobe pure art and bring back the adventuring and feeling/atmosphere of older amazing RPGs with unique new features and choices, i would like to see how many would buy it

It is one of my most wanted titles in 2009, could be the Braid of RPGs, but in a bigger way

Animal-Mother

I know how much you love this game, But we have not seen a single thing. I need to see some stuff to value a purchase, whats the name of it anyways

Well, i have not seen much of it either, i just love the concept that each screen will be pure art, and will be heavy in dialog/adventure and choice and of course that more sequel are planned

They said will nopt reveal the name, because would give away the game story, only after they have a deal with MS finilized

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#61 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

In light of the new upcoming XBLA 2D RPG on 360, thatis supposed tobe pure art and bring back the adventuring and feeling/atmosphere of older amazing RPGs with unique new features and choices, i would like to see how many would buy it

It is one of my most wanted titles in 2009, could be the Braid of RPGs, but in a bigger way

Animal-Mother

I know how much you love this game, But we have not seen a single thing. I need to see some stuff to value a purchase, whats the name of it anyways

Lol well we've some really, really, really, really bad photos of a manual, you know in which you can see... a blur, and maybe another blur :P

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#62 obamanian
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

In light of the new upcoming XBLA 2D RPG on 360, thatis supposed tobe pure art and bring back the adventuring and feeling/atmosphere of older amazing RPGs with unique new features and choices, i would like to see how many would buy it

It is one of my most wanted titles in 2009, could be the Braid of RPGs, but in a bigger way

-Traveller-

I know how much you love this game, But we have not seen a single thing. I need to see some stuff to value a purchase, whats the name of it anyways

Lol well we've some really, really, really, really bad photos of a manual, you know in which you can see... a blur, and maybe another blur :P

Well, in Magna Carta 2 we had nothing for 2 years, that is rather worst i guess

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#63 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I know how much you love this game, But we have not seen a single thing. I need to see some stuff to value a purchase, whats the name of it anywaysobamanian

Lol well we've some really, really, really, really bad photos of a manual, you know in which you can see... a blur, and maybe another blur :P

Well, in Magna Carta 2 we had nothing for 2 years, that is rather worst i guess

I'm just joking, but it seems kinda premature to get excited for this game. I'll wait for some more info, and hope it will turn out good :D

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#64 TentacleMayor
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If it was FF6 caliber, that price would be fine

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#65 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Well, in Magna Carta 2 we had nothing for 2 years, that is rather worst i guess

-Traveller-

I'm just joking, but it seems kinda premature to get excited for this game. I'll wait for some more info, and hope it will turn out good :D

Well, as you know i get exited for most RPG's, so ... :)

But this one description has really got my interest due to the mention of focus in art, and old RPG values like dialog etc, so as much as i loved Fable 2, if that new RPG delivers the art, the dialog, depth and choice that frankly are missing in most RPG's today and become a series too, that i can download every few months and keep going, could well become my most favourite thing on 360

Hope all goes well with this

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#66 obamanian
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If it was FF6 caliber, that price would be fine

TentacleMayor

First the visuals will be leagues ahead, full HD 720p art, it is not a tile based game either, each screen will be (handpainted ?) art from what they said

As for story and FMV, i have not played FF6, so i do not know if they can match a full game like FF6 was in content, esepcially since that content has to be far more detailed for the new HD era

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#67 Floppy_Jim
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Hell yeah, I would buy it. But it'll have to take a backseat to 3D Racer, I can't wait for that game.
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#68 -Traveller-
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These are the photos aren't they?

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#69 AdrianWerner
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These are the photos aren't they?

-Traveller-

Hopefuly not, this looks bad

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#70 obamanian
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Yes, that was it, but we can barely make out anything out of that, plus it was from a very early draft they had for the manual, so there was not much to see there even of pics were better
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#71 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

These are the photos aren't they?

AdrianWerner

Hopefuly not, this looks bad

Yeah it looks kinda basic. I grabbed them from Obamanian's other thread on the game.

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#72 clone01
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Well, you would pay a 60$ for a boxed RPG, but not 15$ for a XBLA one, that is 1/4 the price ? And BTW this one is based on choice (unlike Fable 2 that promised that but did not deliver), which means you can replay it as much as you like and do whatever, a real WRPG at that, at least as described by their blog

It will not be anything like Braid, it has exploration (like all RPGs do) and multiple ways to finish it, so it is not like Braid that solving it once made it hard to go back

So, a RPG that could last more than Fable 2, for just 15$ is not that bad of a deal if you ask me, in fact that is the kind of thing i woud like to see more in XBLA, amazing long games for the bargain 15$ price

obamanian

i'm sure it will be better than KZ2 by a million miles.

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#73 AdrianWerner
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look far better than the old visuals of those older 2D RPG's

obamanian

I seriously doubt that. there's no way XBLA game team can have anywhere near the human resources to even match BaldursGate2 or other similiar games, let alone beat them

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#74 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

It would have to be good, but wait aren't they releaseing FFVI the after? which is a 2d rpg...

obamanian

That would be good too, but it is more FF, not something totally unique and fresh like this new WRPG

FFVI The After?
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#75 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

If it would be like maple story then yes, otherwise no.

obamanian

That is a real RPG, like say Baldur Gate, only on XBLA

If its half as awesome as Baldurs Gate i will get it. But i doubt it can match up to the likes of the classic Baldurs Gate series.

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#76 gago-gago
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Depends on the game, if it's good sure why not, $15 is chump change.

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#77 obamanian
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

These are the photos aren't they?

-Traveller-

Hopefuly not, this looks bad

Yeah it looks kinda basic. I grabbed them from Obamanian's other thread on the game.

Frankly i don't see how you can draw conclusions from so terrible phone pics, these would make Crysis look terrible

Also that is just the manual of the game, i have never seen any manual showing how great a game looks, ever

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#78 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Hopefuly not, this looks bad

obamanian

Yeah it looks kinda basic. I grabbed them from Obamanian's other thread on the game.

Frankly i don't see how you can draw conclusions from so terrible phone pics, these would make Crysis look terrible

Also that is just the manual of the game, i have never seen any manual showing how great a game looks, ever

How can you draw such conclusions then from such little information? You do know the definition of the word hypocritical?

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#79 CPM_basic
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2D is like kryptonite for most lemmings.:P

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You probably haven't heard of Braid, Castle Crashers or Geometry wars then... all of which have had sales that have eclisped any VC game on Wii.
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#80 BioShockOwnz
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Of course. $15 is cheap for a good 2D RPG. I'm amazed half of the people polled have said "no". I guess they'd rather spend $60 on Enchanted Arms and Demon's Souls.

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#81 kozzy1234
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Of course. $15 is cheap for a good 2D RPG. I'm amazed half of the people polled have said "no". I guess they'd rather spend $60 on Enchanted Arms and Demon's Souls.

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Dont ever, EVER say ENCHANTED ARMS in System wars again Bioshock! hehe :P

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#82 obamanian
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Of course. $15 is cheap for a good 2D RPG. I'm amazed half of the people polled have said "no". I guess they'd rather spend $60 on Enchanted Arms and Demon's Souls.

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Can't say i did not like Enchanted Arms and Demon Soul is my most wanted PS3 game after FF13vs, but indeed, i would much rather like it if they were at 15$ too, i would pay 30$ easilly, or even 60$,to play this XBLA RPG if it is everything they say it will be, yet will be only about 15$, so iwill definatly buy that one

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#83 Kandlegoat
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Do you mean the 2d rpg that Jonathan Blow is working on?

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#84 obamanian
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Do you mean the 2d rpg that Jonathan Blow is working on?

Kandlegoat

Who is he ? If you mean the Braid developer ( i assume ), then not, it is another one

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#85 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Do you mean the 2d rpg that Jonathan Blow is working on?

obamanian

Who is he ? If you mean the Braid developer ( i assume ), then not, it is another one

Yes,he developed Braid.and he's the only thing that pops up when you google "2d rpg XBL".no mention of the one you speak of.

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I can't wait for FFXIV man. I know it's coming but we don't have any info on it though, but I know it's going to be pure art and the best JRPG evar! :D

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#87 Kandlegoat
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I'm willing to give him the the benefit of the doubt,and say he did see something about a XBL rpg. I have a feeling he means the Jonathan blow RPG,but he claims it's a different one...so who knows? either way,a link would be nice.

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#88 FloWeN-UK
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What is this RPG your speaking of? Sounds interesting.

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How can you hype this when you know almost nothing about it?
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#91 obamanian
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How can you hype this when you know almost nothing about it?pyromaniac223

Well, with features like artistic full 720p 2D environments, adventuring, choice in everything and dialog/deep RPG gaming, why would i not be exited ?

Given the fun i had with Braid, i have huge faith in such projects, that RPG could go deeper than any RPG on 360 so far

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How can you hype this when you know almost nothing about it?pyromaniac223

Exactly. dude has been on and on about this game for months. My only guess is that he or someone he knows is working on it. Who's the developer?

At least when cows talk about that no-named "Team ICO" game, they know that Team Ico is making it. The only reason I know of "unnamed XBLA RPG" is because that's what the TC refers to it as.

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#93 obamanian
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I'm willing to give him the the benefit of the doubt,and say he did see something about a XBL rpg. I have a feeling he means the Jonathan blow RPG,but he claims it's a different one...so who knows? either way,a link would be nice.

Kandlegoat

It was a blog, i found followinf a post in another forum, i saved some pics and some info, but sadly did not save the link and can't find it anymore

It is not easy to find just one link in the whole net, i have tried but have not found it or remember the post that had the link to it

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]How can you hype this when you know almost nothing about it?obamanian

Well, with features like artistic full 720p 2D environments, adventuring, choice in everything and dialog/deep RPG gaming, why would i not be exited ?

Given the fun i had with Braid, i have huge faith in such projects, that RPG could go deeper than any RPG on 360 so far

These are incredibly vague bullet points. You have no proof that they will even live up to this in the slightest. That's like me saying I'm making a game with super amazing combat mechanics and a deep and touching storyline, then offering no specific information or demonstrations to prove that I'm even slightly on track, and you hyping it. Wait for some specific information before hyping.
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#95 obamanian
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]How can you hype this when you know almost nothing about it?bez2083

Exactly. dude has been on and on about this game for months. My only guess is that he or someone he knows is working on it. Who's the developer?

At least when cows talk about that no-named "Team ICO" game, they know that Team Ico is making it. The only reason I know of "unnamed XBLA RPG" is because that's what the TC refers to it as.

Why not get exited over something that is unique, fresh and totally missing from XBLA ? Just because it has no name yet ? I remember than 100+ PS3 game list, 50% of which were "untitled Project" and with zero info and people still go exited

So, now that i have read the devleoper blog, why would i not be exited ? And no, the game developer is not a "friend" of mine, unless you mean any untitled game is made by someone i know

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#96 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]How can you hype this when you know almost nothing about it?obamanian

Exactly. dude has been on and on about this game for months. My only guess is that he or someone he knows is working on it. Who's the developer?

At least when cows talk about that no-named "Team ICO" game, they know that Team Ico is making it. The only reason I know of "unnamed XBLA RPG" is because that's what the TC refers to it as.

Why not get exited over something that is unique, fresh and totally missing from XBLA ? Just because it has no name yet ? I remember than 100+ PS3 game list, 50% of which were "untitled Project" and with zero info and people still go exited

So, now that i have read the devleoper blog, why would i not be exited ? And no, the game developer is not a "friend" of mine, unless you mean any untitled game is made by someone i know

Because it has no name and no details.
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#97 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]How can you hype this when you know almost nothing about it?pyromaniac223

Well, with features like artistic full 720p 2D environments, adventuring, choice in everything and dialog/deep RPG gaming, why would i not be exited ?

Given the fun i had with Braid, i have huge faith in such projects, that RPG could go deeper than any RPG on 360 so far

These are incredibly vague bullet points. You have no proof that they will even live up to this in the slightest. That's like me saying I'm making a game with super amazing combat mechanics and a deep and touching storyline, then offering no specific information or demonstrations to prove that I'm even slightly on track, and you hyping it. Wait for some specific information before hyping.

True, i am exited by what i read, that does not mean everything will come 100% true

It is like Fable 2 case, i was exited, even though the game lacks depth, dialog etc, still i loved it

So, let's wait and see, but i will be exited, as i am with most RPGs that sound sop promising

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

Well, with features like artistic full 720p 2D environments, adventuring, choice in everything and dialog/deep RPG gaming, why would i not be exited ?

Given the fun i had with Braid, i have huge faith in such projects, that RPG could go deeper than any RPG on 360 so far

obamanian

These are incredibly vague bullet points. You have no proof that they will even live up to this in the slightest. That's like me saying I'm making a game with super amazing combat mechanics and a deep and touching storyline, then offering no specific information or demonstrations to prove that I'm even slightly on track, and you hyping it. Wait for some specific information before hyping.

True, i am exited by what i read, that does not mean everything will come 100% true

It is like Fable 2 case, i was exited, even though the game lacks depth, dialog etc, still i loved it

So, let's wait and see, but i will be exited, as i am with most RPGs that sound sop promising

It doesn't sound like everything. They just listed their goals. These are the same exact goals shared by every single RPG developer. You have no shred of evidence that they can come anywhere near these promises, and for all you know, this will end up like the hundreds of shallow, forced RPGs out there.
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#99 gmc2u_64
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] These are incredibly vague bullet points. You have no proof that they will even live up to this in the slightest. That's like me saying I'm making a game with super amazing combat mechanics and a deep and touching storyline, then offering no specific information or demonstrations to prove that I'm even slightly on track, and you hyping it. Wait for some specific information before hyping.pyromaniac223

True, i am exited by what i read, that does not mean everything will come 100% true

It is like Fable 2 case, i was exited, even though the game lacks depth, dialog etc, still i loved it

So, let's wait and see, but i will be exited, as i am with most RPGs that sound sop promising

It doesn't sound like everything. They just listed their goals. These are the same exact goals shared by every single RPG developer. You have no shred of evidence that they can come anywhere near these promises, and for all you know, this will end up like the hundreds of shallow, forced RPGs out there.

I agree. I can't take the TC seriously with this lack of INFORMATION on the game (and the fact that he had said that he values ART in game over anything else (even GAMEPLAY (which makes or breaks the game (he said it in a old topic))).

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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] These are incredibly vague bullet points. You have no proof that they will even live up to this in the slightest. That's like me saying I'm making a game with super amazing combat mechanics and a deep and touching storyline, then offering no specific information or demonstrations to prove that I'm even slightly on track, and you hyping it. Wait for some specific information before hyping.pyromaniac223

True, i am exited by what i read, that does not mean everything will come 100% true

It is like Fable 2 case, i was exited, even though the game lacks depth, dialog etc, still i loved it

So, let's wait and see, but i will be exited, as i am with most RPGs that sound sop promising

It doesn't sound like everything. They just listed their goals. These are the same exact goals shared by every single RPG developer. You have no shred of evidence that they can come anywhere near these promises, and for all you know, this will end up like the hundreds of shallow, forced RPGs out there.

Indeed, but noone has achieved these goals yet, and i guess spending so much time and efford on graphics and the 3D world and increasing the scope, takes away from what really matters, that is a strong story, atmosphere, adventure, choice and dialog

Who knows, maybe it takes a 2D RPG to focus on art, and all the above more than just better 3D and novelty

Also they are not making a RPG with huge expectations that has to be easy for casuals too, like Fable 2 creator advertised in so many occasions, so has a better chance to come true to those promises is my guess

Hope if it does, has good sales so we see more of the deep RPG kind, with real choices and dialogs

I can always hope, right ? :)