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Poll Would you rather Nintendo get 3rd party or become 3rd party? (105 votes)

NX with 3rd party 55%
Become 3rd party 45%

Basically would you rather Nintendo make a boss ass NX with third party support, or would you rather Nintendo just become aa 3rd party publisher making games for all hardware.

I honestly wish they would go 3rd party, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon.

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#101  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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Well, I may be a little biased because I literally just bought a New Nintendo 3DS, but I would like for them to have 3rd party. On all consoles.

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@AzatiS: Last Guardian is not new. And Bloodborne is still part of the Souls series. Im just showing you that people still love and buy Nintendo games like crazy, thats why Nintendo makes more.

Sony on the other hand has to rehash the ones that sell and make new IPs for the ones that failed. Its supply and demand mate, and if people arent demanding it, you make them something new.

And i already showed you Nintendo gets new IP exclusives also. Your argument holds not weight mate.

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#103  Edited By AzatiS
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@AzatiS: Last Guardian is not new. And Bloodborne is still part of the Souls series. Im just showing you that people still love and buy Nintendo games like crazy, thats why Nintendo makes more.

Sony on the other hand has to rehash the ones that sell and make new IPs for the ones that failed. Its supply and demand mate, and if people arent demanding it, you make them something new.

And i already showed you Nintendo gets new IP exclusives also. Your argument holds not weight mate.

It is new IP and Bloodborne is new IP also aside the fact that follow the Souls series which they were NEW IP for PS3 as well.

People love and buy Nintendo games like crazy but that isnt enough and im not against Nintendo for making the same iconic games over and over but it would be nice for them to try new IPs every generation aside the usual for all those out there who got tired , bored or dont care that much anymore about the big 4 or some of them even.

Sony on the other hand being on MULTIBILLION losses the last decade more or less showing how things should be done. Investing millions of $$ while being in a huge debt over and over again and they delivering every single generation some of the best NEW IPs , either as 1st or 3rd party , excusives or time exclusives. They investing money for gamers , for all tastes , all around genres. Plenty of options for everyone and i wont even mention multis.

When you paying for a game that is in development from scratch while you are in a multibillion loss for 10 years ... thats respectful and really shows how much you value your customers. Nintendo even let 120 million fanbase , Wii users that is , with subpar support while system died prematurely again while N made millions of millions of profits. Now Wii U is nearly dead as well ... Same thing happened with GC. I mean , dont compare SONY with N just because Nintendo providing few solid games every generation. So please with supply and demand excuse when Nintendo pull the supply plug so soon on every console since GC.

Now since you run out of arguments you going in damage control , talking out of your butt , clearly playing with words to move away of my original point which is --- > Nintendo is NOT getting AAA CALIBER ( keyword ) NEW IPs , Wii U had none for example this generation , which this situation seems to hurt Nintendo systems in the long run specially when they missing multis big time , and that is a fact , you like it or not.

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#104 locopatho
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Just go 3rd party already, for consoles at least. The Gamecube, Wii and WiiU all had/have weak/gimped hardware (due to discs in GC, otherwise powerful), the worst online and 3rd party of their generation, short life spans (4 to 5 years vs 10 years for PS2/PS3/360), lengthy game droughts and missing entire genres: is there a single Western RPG on the Gamecube, Wii and WiiU combined? Laughable.

I mean I'm the idiot who keeps supporting their consoles but I'm really sick of dealing with all the shitty hoops I need to jump through just to play Zelda. Just stick your games on Steam already and stop this charade of weak, drought filled, backwards systems.

Gamers will be happier, Nintendo won't need to waste time and money developing crap hardware that no one likes.

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#105  Edited By Razik
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I'd like Nintendo to become third party

Nintendo make awesome games but awful hardware, their ip would be so much more successful and generate more money and let more people enjoy the Nintendo magic if they went third party

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#106 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@AzatiS said:
@mesome713 said:

@AzatiS: Last Guardian is not new. And Bloodborne is still part of the Souls series. Im just showing you that people still love and buy Nintendo games like crazy, thats why Nintendo makes more.

Sony on the other hand has to rehash the ones that sell and make new IPs for the ones that failed. Its supply and demand mate, and if people arent demanding it, you make them something new.

And i already showed you Nintendo gets new IP exclusives also. Your argument holds not weight mate.

It is new IP and Bloodborne is new IP also aside the fact that follow the Souls series which they were NEW IP for PS3 as well.

People love and buy Nintendo games like crazy but that isnt enough and im not against Nintendo for making the same iconic games over and over but it would be nice for them to try new IPs every generation aside the usual for all those out there who got tired , bored or dont care that much anymore about the big 4 or some of them even.

Sony on the other hand being on MULTIBILLION losses the last decade more or less showing how things should be done. Investing millions of $$ while being in a huge debt over and over again and they delivering every single generation some of the best NEW IPs , either as 1st or 3rd party , excusives or time exclusives. They investing money for gamers , for all tastes , all around genres. Plenty of options for everyone and i wont even mention multis.

When you paying for a game that is in development from scratch while you are in a multibillion loss for 10 years ... thats respectful and really shows how much you value your customers. Nintendo even let 120 million fanbase , Wii users that is , with subpar support while system died prematurely again while N made millions of millions of profits. Now Wii U is nearly dead as well ... Same thing happened with GC. I mean , dont compare SONY with N just because Nintendo providing few solid games every generation. So please with supply and demand excuse when Nintendo pull the supply plug so soon on every console since GC.

Now since you run out of arguments you going in damage control , talking out of your butt , clearly playing with words to move away of my original point which is --- > Nintendo is NOT getting AAA CALIBER ( keyword ) NEW IPs , Wii U had none for example this generation , which this situation seems to hurt Nintendo systems in the long run specially when they missing multis big time , and that is a fact , you like it or not.

Again, The Last Guardian is not a new IP, its part of the ICO IP. And if Bloodborne counts as a new IP, then Xenoblade Chronicles does also. Splatoon is AAA whether you like it or not. Nintendo does do new IPs every gen, not sure why you think they dont.

Sony supports its fans??? Go tell that to the Vita ones, Sony abandoned the Vita and left those fans out could. Nintendo never abandoned the Wii, they released Zelda Skyword Sword, Kirby Return to Dreamland, The Last Story, and Xenoblade Chronicles at the end of Wiis life.

Your the one in damage control and talking out your arse like usually. You just keep beating around the same dying bush. Let it go mate, that hate will consume you.

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#107  Edited By AzatiS
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@mesome713 said:
@AzatiS said:
@mesome713 said:

@AzatiS: Last Guardian is not new. And Bloodborne is still part of the Souls series. Im just showing you that people still love and buy Nintendo games like crazy, thats why Nintendo makes more.

Sony on the other hand has to rehash the ones that sell and make new IPs for the ones that failed. Its supply and demand mate, and if people arent demanding it, you make them something new.

And i already showed you Nintendo gets new IP exclusives also. Your argument holds not weight mate.

It is new IP and Bloodborne is new IP also aside the fact that follow the Souls series which they were NEW IP for PS3 as well.

People love and buy Nintendo games like crazy but that isnt enough and im not against Nintendo for making the same iconic games over and over but it would be nice for them to try new IPs every generation aside the usual for all those out there who got tired , bored or dont care that much anymore about the big 4 or some of them even.

Sony on the other hand being on MULTIBILLION losses the last decade more or less showing how things should be done. Investing millions of $$ while being in a huge debt over and over again and they delivering every single generation some of the best NEW IPs , either as 1st or 3rd party , excusives or time exclusives. They investing money for gamers , for all tastes , all around genres. Plenty of options for everyone and i wont even mention multis.

When you paying for a game that is in development from scratch while you are in a multibillion loss for 10 years ... thats respectful and really shows how much you value your customers. Nintendo even let 120 million fanbase , Wii users that is , with subpar support while system died prematurely again while N made millions of millions of profits. Now Wii U is nearly dead as well ... Same thing happened with GC. I mean , dont compare SONY with N just because Nintendo providing few solid games every generation. So please with supply and demand excuse when Nintendo pull the supply plug so soon on every console since GC.

Now since you run out of arguments you going in damage control , talking out of your butt , clearly playing with words to move away of my original point which is --- > Nintendo is NOT getting AAA CALIBER ( keyword ) NEW IPs , Wii U had none for example this generation , which this situation seems to hurt Nintendo systems in the long run specially when they missing multis big time , and that is a fact , you like it or not.

Again, The Last Guardian is not a new IP, its part of the ICO IP. And if Bloodborne counts as a new IP, then Xenoblade Chronicles does also. Splatoon is AAA whether you like it or not. Nintendo does do new IPs every gen, not sure why you think they dont.

Sony supports its fans??? Go tell that to the Vita ones, Sony abandoned the Vita and left those fans out could. Nintendo never abandoned the Wii, they released Zelda Skyword Sword, Kirby Return to Dreamland, The Last Story, and Xenoblade Chronicles at the end of Wiis life.

Your the one in damage control and talking out your arse like usually. You just keep beating around the same dying bush. Let it go mate, that hate will consume you.

Yeah yeah ... the usual damage control responses ... Anyways whatever ! Wii U dying for a reason , if you cant understand what is going wrong and you defending this shit Nintendo doing the last 2 generation at least ... youll be playing Mario and Zelda on PS5/PS6. Thats all there is to it , so you just let it go and cross your fingers NX to be a success.

DEfend Nintendo all you want but im talking with FACTS not what i think ... Wii U dead almost , Nintendos aaa caliber new IPs for the system no existant , Wii U sales .. the worst sales ever with the very same games you claiming as " what people want ".

Lets hope for NX to do good or decent or else ... hohoho ! In order to do so Nintendo needs to focus on NEW IPs for the next-generation of gamers that dont give an F about oldschool titles and make oldschool titles more appealing with next gen graphics , physics etc ...

As long as there are die hard fans like you defending Nintendo for every single bullshit they doing , Nintendo will never shine again like old , SNES days. You will have forever a low end Nintendo console with 3-4 amazing AAA titles for an entire generation , no multis , no 3rd party support and ... a middle finger in your face after 3 years more or less. If thats what you want , keep defending , all i care !

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#108 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@AzatiS said:
@mesome713 said:
@AzatiS said:
@mesome713 said:

@AzatiS: Last Guardian is not new. And Bloodborne is still part of the Souls series. Im just showing you that people still love and buy Nintendo games like crazy, thats why Nintendo makes more.

Sony on the other hand has to rehash the ones that sell and make new IPs for the ones that failed. Its supply and demand mate, and if people arent demanding it, you make them something new.

And i already showed you Nintendo gets new IP exclusives also. Your argument holds not weight mate.

It is new IP and Bloodborne is new IP also aside the fact that follow the Souls series which they were NEW IP for PS3 as well.

People love and buy Nintendo games like crazy but that isnt enough and im not against Nintendo for making the same iconic games over and over but it would be nice for them to try new IPs every generation aside the usual for all those out there who got tired , bored or dont care that much anymore about the big 4 or some of them even.

Sony on the other hand being on MULTIBILLION losses the last decade more or less showing how things should be done. Investing millions of $$ while being in a huge debt over and over again and they delivering every single generation some of the best NEW IPs , either as 1st or 3rd party , excusives or time exclusives. They investing money for gamers , for all tastes , all around genres. Plenty of options for everyone and i wont even mention multis.

When you paying for a game that is in development from scratch while you are in a multibillion loss for 10 years ... thats respectful and really shows how much you value your customers. Nintendo even let 120 million fanbase , Wii users that is , with subpar support while system died prematurely again while N made millions of millions of profits. Now Wii U is nearly dead as well ... Same thing happened with GC. I mean , dont compare SONY with N just because Nintendo providing few solid games every generation. So please with supply and demand excuse when Nintendo pull the supply plug so soon on every console since GC.

Now since you run out of arguments you going in damage control , talking out of your butt , clearly playing with words to move away of my original point which is --- > Nintendo is NOT getting AAA CALIBER ( keyword ) NEW IPs , Wii U had none for example this generation , which this situation seems to hurt Nintendo systems in the long run specially when they missing multis big time , and that is a fact , you like it or not.

Again, The Last Guardian is not a new IP, its part of the ICO IP. And if Bloodborne counts as a new IP, then Xenoblade Chronicles does also. Splatoon is AAA whether you like it or not. Nintendo does do new IPs every gen, not sure why you think they dont.

Sony supports its fans??? Go tell that to the Vita ones, Sony abandoned the Vita and left those fans out could. Nintendo never abandoned the Wii, they released Zelda Skyword Sword, Kirby Return to Dreamland, The Last Story, and Xenoblade Chronicles at the end of Wiis life.

Your the one in damage control and talking out your arse like usually. You just keep beating around the same dying bush. Let it go mate, that hate will consume you.

Yeah yeah ... the usual damage control responses ... Anyways whatever ! Wii U dying for a reason , if you cant understand what is going wrong and you defending this shit Nintendo doing the last 2 generation at least ... youll be playing Mario and Zelda on PS5/PS6. Thats all there is to it , so you just let it go and cross your fingers NX to be a success.

DEfend Nintendo all you want but im talking with FACTS not what i think ... Wii U dead almost , Nintendos aaa caliber new IPs for the system no existant , Wii U sales .. the worst sales ever with the very same games you claiming as " what people want ".

Lets hope for NX to do good or decent or else ... hohoho !

Dream on hater. Nintendo dont die, we multiply. Again, Splatoon is AAA, but dat butthurt tho! Priceless.

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@mesome713: Dream on what ? Stating facts and my opinion of what Nintendo should do in order to bring it hard ? Ok !! Let me dream but between us , i dont give a crap !

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@AzatiS: Playing Mario on PS5 or PS6, we have more of chance of playing Shadows of Colossus on a future Nintendo console then that. With the help of Samsung, Sony continues to shrink.And guess who helps make parts for Nintendo...Samsung baby.

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#111  Edited By AzatiS
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@mesome713 said:

@AzatiS: Playing Mario on PS5 or PS6, we have more of chance of playing Shadows of Colossus on a future Nintendo console then that. With the help of Samsung, Sony continues to shrink.And guess who helps make parts for Nintendo...Samsung baby.

yeah ok ok , just pray for NX to not fail all im saying. Also whats with this Samsung crap you talking about ? With the help of Samsung ? So you really want Sony to shrink ? Ok , in meanwhile Wii U with one foot in the graveyard ... Samsung or not .

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@AzatiS: NX will be just fine, with how weak PS4 and Xbox One are, NX will have an awesome shot at becoming top dog. All they have to do is bring out an epic NX launch. I would like Samsung to replace Sony in the video game market. I think they will be very good competitors for Nintendo, Apple, Google and Steam. Then open source can better defeat closed source and the world will be more peaceful.

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#113  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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Keep their own platform. Microsoft leave consoles.

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@mesome713: Thats a pretty odd list of companies, you mean like Nintendo staying in game development? Because they definitely aren't going to survive if they don't change the way they do consoles and portables.

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@shadowchronicle: Its the future war i predict,

Nintendo, Steam, Samsung, and Google vs Sony, Microsoft, Apple, and Facebook.

Companies who innovate vs companies who oversaturate.

Open source vs closed source, only one can survive in this world.

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#116  Edited By AzatiS
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@mesome713 said:

@AzatiS: NX will be just fine, with how weak PS4 and Xbox One are, NX will have an awesome shot at becoming top dog. All they have to do is bring out an epic NX launch. I would like Samsung to replace Sony in the video game market. I think they will be very good competitors for Nintendo, Apple, Google and Steam. Then open source can better defeat closed source and the world will be more peaceful.

NX top dog ..Facepalm .. with PS4 going rampage with not many of the big guns out yet, pulverize Wii U and X1 combined worldwide .. ok !! Like Wii U would when every single of the big 3 ( mario/kart/smash ) was getting a release. I still remember how sheep was telling everyone " Wait for Kart and youll see ( Wii U sales going up ) " Same for Mario and Smash .... and here we are , Wii U almost dead in its 3rd year in the market.

Samsung wont replace Sony because Sony as we speak is the most loyal brand name in console market .As for competitors ... After Sony Playstation first released , Nintendo was never the same consoles wise. Sales , third party etc . Anyways , if Nintendo wont get serious with NX there wont be another console. Mark my words.

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#117  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@AzatiS said:
@mesome713 said:

@AzatiS: NX will be just fine, with how weak PS4 and Xbox One are, NX will have an awesome shot at becoming top dog. All they have to do is bring out an epic NX launch. I would like Samsung to replace Sony in the video game market. I think they will be very good competitors for Nintendo, Apple, Google and Steam. Then open source can better defeat closed source and the world will be more peaceful.

NX top dog ..Facepalm .. with PS4 going rampage with not many of the big guns out yet, pulverize Wii U and X1 combined worldwide .. ok !! Like Wii U would when every single of the big 3 ( mario/kart/smash ) was getting a release. I still remember how sheep was telling everyone " Wait for Kart and youll see ( Wii U sales going up ) " Same for Mario and Smash .... and here we are , Wii U almost dead in its 3rd year in the market.

Samsung wont replace Sony because Sony as we speak is the most loyal brand name in console market .As for competitors ... After Sony Playstation first released , Nintendo was never the same consoles wise. Sales , third party etc . Anyways , if Nintendo wont get serious with NX there wont be another console. Mark my words.

3DS sold more then Xbox One and PS4 combined, who cares. Youve been saying almost for a long time mate. Im willing to guess its your most used word behind, Nintendo third party. Umm, Samsung is already destroying Sony as we speak. Samsung kicked them out the world market and Nintendo kicked them out the Japanese market. They did the old Kung Fu Phooey chop.

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@mesome713: Nintendo definitely oversaturates some of their products. Mario to name one. Good games but they still use him over and over ahain.

Also Google isn't much different from microsoft or apple. Those three almost always release the same products if on had success with it.

Innovation comes from copying too you know.

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@shadowchronicle said:

@mesome713: Nintendo definitely oversaturates some of their products. Mario to name one. Good games but they still use him over and over ahain.

Also Google isn't much different from microsoft or apple. Those three almost always release the same products if on had success with it.

Innovation comes from copying too you know.

They always innovate their Mario games though. Google is the most innovative and open source company in the world. Innovation comes from implementation. Just plain coping others without your own innovation leads to oversaturation.

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@mesome713 said:
@AzatiS said:
@mesome713 said:

@AzatiS: NX will be just fine, with how weak PS4 and Xbox One are, NX will have an awesome shot at becoming top dog. All they have to do is bring out an epic NX launch. I would like Samsung to replace Sony in the video game market. I think they will be very good competitors for Nintendo, Apple, Google and Steam. Then open source can better defeat closed source and the world will be more peaceful.

NX top dog ..Facepalm .. with PS4 going rampage with not many of the big guns out yet, pulverize Wii U and X1 combined worldwide .. ok !! Like Wii U would when every single of the big 3 ( mario/kart/smash ) was getting a release. I still remember how sheep was telling everyone " Wait for Kart and youll see ( Wii U sales going up ) " Same for Mario and Smash .... and here we are , Wii U almost dead in its 3rd year in the market.

Samsung wont replace Sony because Sony as we speak is the most loyal brand name in console market .As for competitors ... After Sony Playstation first released , Nintendo was never the same consoles wise. Sales , third party etc . Anyways , if Nintendo wont get serious with NX there wont be another console. Mark my words.

3DS sold more then Xbox One and PS4 combined, who cares. Youve been saying almost for a long time mate. Im willing to guess its your most used word behind, Nintendo third party. Umm, Samsung is already destroying Sony as we speak. Samsung kicked them out the world market and Nintendo kicked them out the Japanese market. They did the old Kung Fu Phooey chop.

You know what console means or not ? What 3DS has to do with what im talking about , again you playing with words to win an argument. Samsung again ... kick who ? The number 1 console this generation by far worldwide wise ? Ok , if you say so ! Its Nintendo choice to show you the middle finger once again with Wii U ... ive never seen a middle finger before from Sony , again console wise so who kicking who ? I see Nintendo kicking their own fans in the balls for 3 straight gens

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@AzatiS said:
@mesome713 said:
@AzatiS said:
@mesome713 said:

@AzatiS: NX will be just fine, with how weak PS4 and Xbox One are, NX will have an awesome shot at becoming top dog. All they have to do is bring out an epic NX launch. I would like Samsung to replace Sony in the video game market. I think they will be very good competitors for Nintendo, Apple, Google and Steam. Then open source can better defeat closed source and the world will be more peaceful.

NX top dog ..Facepalm .. with PS4 going rampage with not many of the big guns out yet, pulverize Wii U and X1 combined worldwide .. ok !! Like Wii U would when every single of the big 3 ( mario/kart/smash ) was getting a release. I still remember how sheep was telling everyone " Wait for Kart and youll see ( Wii U sales going up ) " Same for Mario and Smash .... and here we are , Wii U almost dead in its 3rd year in the market.

Samsung wont replace Sony because Sony as we speak is the most loyal brand name in console market .As for competitors ... After Sony Playstation first released , Nintendo was never the same consoles wise. Sales , third party etc . Anyways , if Nintendo wont get serious with NX there wont be another console. Mark my words.

3DS sold more then Xbox One and PS4 combined, who cares. Youve been saying almost for a long time mate. Im willing to guess its your most used word behind, Nintendo third party. Umm, Samsung is already destroying Sony as we speak. Samsung kicked them out the world market and Nintendo kicked them out the Japanese market. They did the old Kung Fu Phooey chop.

You know what console is or not ? Samsung again ... kick who ? The number 1 console this generation by far worldwide wise ? Ok , if you say so !

Wii U is beating PS4 in Japan, and is only 3 million behind in America. Wii U is bout to beat Vita this year. Samsung has destroyed Sony in every single market they are in. Phones, Harddrives, TV, Tablets, Dishwashers, Refrigerators, washing machines, you name. Samsung kicking and arse and taking names. Number one console in the world is 3DS, this aint even a debate.

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#122 Jag85
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If Nintendo goes third-party, the quality of their games will most likely go downhill, like what happened to Atari and Sega. So no, Nintendo should remain a console manufacturer and first-party developer, and just try to win over third-parties. If all else fails, then going third-party should only be a last resort, not a first resort.