Wouldn't Valve make a huge profit if they made HL3?

All I see is consolite trash. clyde46

I don't think Valve even makes games anymore. percech

Dota 2 is one of the highest rated games of the year so far. CS:GO is the most competitive FPS we've seen in years (released last year). Portal 2 is one of the best games of this generation (released the year before).

But Valve don't make games anymore... Nope :)

most people dont care about Half Life, jsut a really loud internet minority

Zaibach

Yet, original H-L and H-L 2 were the best-selling FPS games on the PC, with millions of sold copies. ;)

 

So you're basically saying, at some point, Valve is gonna abandon console development? For what???  

 

MoneySha

[QUOTE="MoneySha"]

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

 

Maybe it's YOU who just doesn't get it.  Steam is a huge success and so is Valve.  They are releasing PC made games to consoles (ports).  So YOU are getting the ports and it has NO impact on the PC side except it gives Valve more money to make QUALITY PC games that will also go to console. Anyone knows the PC version is supremely better of all those games you listed.  L4D sucks on consoles and a big reason is that it is made with the PC in mind; including the UI.  So they just port over the best they can to make more money to make PC games. It's not that they are abandoning PC by going to the consoles..it is actually the opposite.  And if you had a PC and actually used Steam and saw the user statistics you would not be speaking this ignorantly. 

clyde46

Steam is only successful in the fact that it hasn't failed... But nowhere near as profitable as the console and mobile market; I don't care if their games are ports or not, I'm just simply pointing out why, companies like Valve see the necessities of console development and gaming;

That statement made absolutly no sense... So you're basically saying, at some point, Valve is gonna abandon console development? For what??? As long as there are consoles and a mobile market, and as long as those markets are making up 40, 50, 60, 70 percent of the gaming market, they won't be abandoning anything; Unless you have a link of Gabe saying anything like that, you should probably just keep that nonsense to yourself... Because it's stupid!

Then perhaps you might want to invest in a better computer monitor...:roll:

They should release a steam box with half life 3 exclusive to steam at launch.sweeten16

I only agree with it being exclusive to Steam.

They don't need to make a console, there's enough high-end PCs out there to warrant making a PC-exclusive shooter.

And the next-gen consoles could just get a tonned-down PC port, like it was supposed to be.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="MoneySha"]

 

Steam is only successful in the fact that it hasn't failed... But nowhere near as profitable as the console and mobile market; I don't care if their games are ports or not, I'm just simply pointing out why, companies like Valve see the necessities of console development and gaming;

 

That statement made absolutly no sense... So you're basically saying, at some point, Valve is gonna abandon console development? For what??? As long as there are consoles and a mobile market, and as long as those markets are making up 40, 50, 60, 70 percent of the gaming market, they won't be abandoning anything; Unless you have a link of Gabe saying anything like that, you should probably just keep that nonsense to yourself... Because it's stupid!

 

 

MoneySha

Then perhaps you might want to invest in a better computer monitor...:roll:

[QUOTE="MoneySha"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] All I see is consolite trash. clyde46

Then perhaps you might want to invest in a better computer monitor...:roll:

And what the fuk is "being successful because it hasn't failed"? That is the biggest non explanation I've ever seen.

[QUOTE="percech"]I don't think Valve even makes games anymore. Consternated

Dota 2 is one of the highest rated games of the year so far. CS:GO is the most competitive FPS we've seen in years (released last year). Portal 2 is one of the best games of this generation (released the year before).

But Valve don't make games anymore... Nope :)

Yeah but at the say time they could damage the god like status of the brand if they didn't release something groundbreaking and world class. Wasn't there a rumour away back that they wanted the animations to adjust better to the player's posittion and they waited for tech like that or something.Sushiglutton

[QUOTE="Consternated"]

[QUOTE="percech"]I don't think Valve even makes games anymore. percech

Dota 2 is one of the highest rated games of the year so far. CS:GO is the most competitive FPS we've seen in years (released last year). Portal 2 is one of the best games of this generation (released the year before).

But Valve don't make games anymore... Nope :)

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Consternated"]

Dota 2 is one of the highest rated games of the year so far. CS:GO is the most competitive FPS we've seen in years (released last year). Portal 2 is one of the best games of this generation (released the year before).

But Valve don't make games anymore... Nope :)

Consternated

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

most people dont care about Half Life, jsut a really loud internet minority

nameless12345

Yet, original H-L and H-L 2 were the best-selling FPS games on the PC, with millions of sold copies. ;)

Dota 2 was a free Warcraft mod and they hired the guys behind it to make the game. Portal was based off Gary's Mod. :)percech

Sure but they hired the guys that came out with the concept and then made the game. Portal was nothing else but a crude concept before Valve decided to make it a full fledged game. 

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

most people dont care about Half Life, jsut a really loud internet minority

heretrix

[QUOTE="percech"]Dota 2 was a free Warcraft mod and they hired the guys behind it to make the game. Portal was based off Gary's Mod. :)edidili

Sure but they hired the guys that came out with the concept and then made the game. Portal was nothing else but a crude concept before Valve decided to make it a full fledged game. 

[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="percech"]Dota 2 was a free Warcraft mod and they hired the guys behind it to make the game. Portal was based off Gary's Mod. :)percech

Sure but they hired the guys that came out with the concept and then made the game. Portal was nothing else but a crude concept before Valve decided to make it a full fledged game. 

yet no H-L 3.....

Zaibach

That doesn't mean nobody cares. 

You have a ton of franchises that have been much less succesful that still get sequels. I mean Killzone is getting a sequel ffs. 

Right, so Valve funded it and supported it...so they published it. :)percech

And actually made it. A publisher only gives money to a developer house and manages marketing. Valve hires those guys that came up with a concept and and merges them with the internal teams. 

Portal was an early concept by 3 people for example. You don't believe the full game, the end product was made of only 3 pople do you? They did the same with L4d, CS and Dota. 

In 2004 it was much easier to blow the minds of gamers, im not even sure they can out-do titanfall in 2014.

kingoflife9

Titanfall? Really?

[QUOTE="kingoflife9"]

In 2004 it was much easier to blow the minds of gamers, im not even sure they can out-do titanfall in 2014.

Consternated

Titanfall? Really?

[QUOTE="Consternated"][QUOTE="percech"] If you look closer you'll notice that Valve didn't actually make those games. They published them. :)percech

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

most people dont care about Half Life, jsut a really loud internet minority

Zaibach

Yet, original H-L and H-L 2 were the best-selling FPS games on the PC, with millions of sold copies. ;)

We will see.

Maybe the next-gen version of Source and "brainstorming" is taking longer than thought.

They could also make a new IP that would be a "spiritual successor".

They also mentioned several times now how they're displeased with today's consumer hardware so that may lead back to point one.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Consternated"] I thought they only published CS:GO outta the three?Vaasman

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Dota 2 was a free Warcraft mod and they hired the guys behind it to make the game. Portal was based off Gary's Mod. :)percech

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

 

Yet, original H-L and H-L 2 were the best-selling FPS games on the PC, with millions of sold copies. ;)

nameless12345

We will see.

Maybe the next-gen version of Source and "brainstorming" is taking longer than thought.

They could also make a new IP that would be a "spiritual successor".

They also mentioned several times now how they're displeased with today's consumer hardware so that may lead back to point one.

[QUOTE="percech"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]If they hired the people who made it, then it was made by Valve....

Vaasman

[QUOTE="Consternated"]

[QUOTE="kingoflife9"]

In 2004 it was much easier to blow the minds of gamers, im not even sure they can out-do titanfall in 2014.

Zaibach

Titanfall? Really?

Of course. Futuristic shooter with mechs and wall running, but still limited to assault rifles, shotguns, and pistols. Evolution, yo!

It's not just about money and the requirements for a half life game is beyond just the story and characters in it.  There's the expectation of the game to blow everyone's minds just like the first 2 games did, and its not as achievable as it used to be.  That's because you have to take what is already seen in the best games out there today, and then go way beyond that technologically and in design.  Valve is a rich company but they don't have that kind of human resources to do that.

Considering they're already bathing in money, and Valve is a privately held company, they don't have to prioritize making an even huger profit.
They'll put focus on HL3 whenever they deem the time right. Hopefully sometime this decade.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="percech"] If you say so, lol. All it means is that it's not their work and Valve lacks creativity and the ability to establish a new franchise on their own. :)

percech

But think of the larger profits of finalizing it on Source engine 2 and making it on next gen systems.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]If they are employees of Valve, making games for Valve with Valve's name, with funding and further development from Valve, then it was made by Valve. I can see how you might think otherwise, seeing as how you're a dumbass.

Vaasman

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]yet no H-L 3.....

Zaibach

We will see.

Maybe the next-gen version of Source and "brainstorming" is taking longer than thought.

They could also make a new IP that would be a "spiritual successor".

They also mentioned several times now how they're displeased with today's consumer hardware so that may lead back to point one.

By what? :?

If you say so, lol. All it means is that it's not their work and Valve lacks creativity and the ability to establish a new franchise on their own. :)

percech

They have great ability in seeing potential where no one else does. If it wasn't for them most of these games would just stay in limbo or as mods that would quickly be forgotten. Apart from Dota, that kind of game was already popular when Valve decided to step in. 

Is kinda funny acussing them on not releasing enough new franchises on this very thread, that is about them not milking more their existing franchises. 

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Dota 2 was a free Warcraft mod and they hired the guys behind it to make the game. Portal was based off Gary's Mod. :)percech

[QUOTE="percech"]

If you say so, lol. All it means is that it's not their work and Valve lacks creativity and the ability to establish a new franchise on their own. :)

edidili

They have great ability in seeing potential where no one else does. If it wasn't for them most of these games would just stay in limbo or as mods that would quickly be forgotten. Apart from Dota, that kind of game was already popular when Valve decided to step in. 

Is kinda funny acussing them on not releasing enough new franchises on this very thread, that is about them not milking more their existing franchises. 

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

 

We will see.

Maybe the next-gen version of Source and "brainstorming" is taking longer than thought.

They could also make a new IP that would be a "spiritual successor".

They also mentioned several times now how they're displeased with today's consumer hardware so that may lead back to point one.

nameless12345

By what? :?

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="percech"] I can see that you're butthurt since you seem to be like all the other Valve dick-riders who give Valve way too much credit. percech

Also, Portal and L4D weren't based on mods lol. They were their own games before Valve grabbed them and finished them.

[QUOTE="percech"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]If they hired the people who made it, then it was made by Valve....

clyde46

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Hey na you're perfectly welcome to hate amazing games, it's no skin off my back. Just don't bullshit your way through the argument, that's all.

Vaasman

Also, Portal and L4D weren't based on mods lol. They were their own games before Valve grabbed them and finished them.

Both of the first 2 installment, Half Life 1 & 2, accomplished remarkable achievements during their time. Our standards of what we expect out of a FPS has also changed, so I don't think a mere Half Life expasion to Episode 2 would suffice. In a way, unless Valve think of something truely innovative or amazing, I think we're all setting ourselves up for dissapointment. 

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Perfectly amazing games that are all based on mods. Wow, Valve sure knows how to blow our minds with their creativity. :)percech

Also, Portal and L4D weren't based on mods lol. They were their own games before Valve grabbed them and finished them.