WOW Cataclysm to top black ops 4.7 million 24 hour sales?

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#1 mattuk69
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Black Ops hit 4.7million across all platforms in 24 hours destroying halo reach 24 hour sales with just over 3 million.

Now Cataclysm is a month away and has more players then ever before with over 12million subcribers. Will Cataclysm beat the record by selling on just one platform?

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#2 dolph1073
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yes, yes it will.
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#3 lundy86_4
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If there's something that *can* do it, then it's a WoW expansion. I just don't see it happening though.

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#4 tagyhag
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I think so. It has a pretty big chance Wrath of the Lich King sold 2.8 Mil in the first 24 hours. And Cataclysm is a MUCH bigger overhaul than WOFLK. Not to mention more anticipated.
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its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.
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#6 N30F3N1X
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I doubt it.

WLK was downright depressing. I guess a lot of people will wait to know if Cata is anything like WLK first.

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#7 lundy86_4
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its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.babybinky

WoW has 12 million active subscribers.

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#8 mexicangordo
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I think so. It has a pretty big chance Wrath of the Lich King sold 2.8 Mil in the first 24 hours. And Cataclysm is a MUCH bigger overhaul than WOFLK. Not to mention more anticipated. tagyhag
Totally agreed, though I don't think its going to beat it in sales, it will be close.

Cataclysm is what WotLK should have been. WotLK was a huge disappointment for me, it started out incredible but then it seems like they just stopped with the updates and it became incredible borring. Don't even get me started with the Arthas fight... ugg :(

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#9 fueled-system
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So nearly 50% of WOW subscribers would buy it the day it comes out? I doubt it

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#10 hoola
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[QUOTE="babybinky"]its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.lundy86_4

WoW has 12 million active subscribers.

12 million active subscribers, then add the hundreds of thousands of people who will probably re-subscribe because of the Expansion. I will be one of them and so will a couple of my friends.

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[QUOTE="babybinky"]its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.

7 million people pay for a game that they don't play?
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#13 bobbetybob
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="babybinky"]its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.babybinky

WoW has 12 million active subscribers.

wow that is crazy!!! 12 million suckers wasting there time, im being brutally honest here. anyone else think that this is sad??

It's their not there. Why does everybody get those mixed up? It drives me nuts. And I don't see WoW beating those sales, Black Ops had 3 platforms to release across, Cataclysm only has the one, and whilst WoW is insanely popular it's probably not enough to beat Black Ops.
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#14 donalbane
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Too bad WoW isn't even a game anymore... it's really just a fantasy themed chat lobby.
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#15 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="babybinky"]its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.babybinky

WoW has 12 million active subscribers.

wow that is crazy!!! 12 million suckers wasting there time, im being brutally honest here. anyone else think that this is sad??

I'm sure many people in the world think gamers suck in general. Doesn't make their interpretation correct, or even remotely so :roll:

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#16 Ilikemyname420
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="babybinky"]its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.babybinky

WoW has 12 million active subscribers.

wow that is crazy!!! 12 million suckers wasting there time, im being brutally honest here. anyone else think that this is sad??

I think it's sad that someone wastes their time complaining about how people waste their time.....
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#17 kozzy1234
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If the last expansion sold 3 million on day one then this new one definatly could get anywhere from 4-5 mill.

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#18 dolph1073
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It's their not there. Why does everybody get those mixed up? It drives me nuts.bobbetybob

grammar is not for the internet guys

and i don't see any reason it wont get atleast that number in 24 hours, many ppl have already preloaded it and are just waiting for release now

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[QUOTE="babybinky"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.babybinky

WoW has 12 million active subscribers.

wow that is crazy!!! 12 million suckers wasting there time, im being brutally honest here. anyone else think that this is sad??

Sadder than console gamers who pay for XBL, or each rendition of an EA sports game, or a madden game, or one of the endless lackluster shooters, or games with 6 hrs of gameplay?
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#22 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="babybinky"]its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.babybinky

WoW has 12 million active subscribers.

wow that is crazy!!! 12 million suckers wasting there time, im being brutally honest here. anyone else think that this is sad??

Excuse me? You've never even played this game before, have you? Let me draw a comparison for you.

Oblivion has dozens of dungeons. But most of them are randomly generated, use the same textures, and are filled with either bandits, ghosts, or goblins. You could probably run around Oblivion right now and find a dozen samey looking goblin caves. None of these required any special attention from the artist, who created maybe 3 goblin models, some doodads like skulls on pikes and a fireplace, and so on. Then they made a few textures to put on the walls and presto! 11 goblin caves and then you copy-paste the rest to a randomly generated dungeon. People claimed to spend over 100 hours in this RPG which mostly consisted of beating up on bandits wearing fur armor, and then bandits wearing iron armor and then bandits wearing mithril armor. But then you get to go through 12 randomly generated Oblivion gates with the exact same Daedra, the exact same buildings, the exact same environments, and the same flora.

WoW, by contrast has literally dozens of handcrafted raid instances, some of which can take hours to full clear even with trivialized content (e.g. a level 60 dungeon with level 75 players). These instances are filled with monsters who have been designed by an art team, bosses who have been handcrafted by an art team specifically for that instance, specific loot tables with normally over a hundred drops unique to that instance which are often unique on-player models. Most importantly, however, every instance is handcrafted by an art team and level designers which create every single nook and cranny intentionally.

Then you have literally dozens of dungeons per expansion pack, that means over a dozen per game, of which there are three. In addition to that there are currently 4 continents, each of which has dozens of individual zones with dozens of quests per zone, totaling dozens of towns per continent, all of which are again uniquely handcrafted by artists and level designers.

This is backed up by writers, who create dialog for all questgiver NPCs related to the 3 games plus more expansion packs of lore that preceded WoW plus the unique lore for all 3 WoW expansion packs.

This world is filled with unique challenges, like becoming world first or realm first to down heroic Lich King or 25m Halion. These raids require coordination and a significant amount of tactics to defeat. Some of these encounters can take new groups hours, sometimes multiple nights to defeat.

This is one such instance and an example of the game's art design which varies widely between zones, continents, and dungeons:

Compare that to Ulduar:

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you seem to be trying really hard to justify why you play it brownesque
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#25 kontejner44
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Haters gonna hate, I've been in two different world top 20 guilds, one in vanilla and one in wotlk, it's a great game with alot more depth to PvE than people think which shows on healing and dps meters. But it's the only game you're going to play during that time, life-consuming but addictive and periodically incredibly fun. It's like the heroin of drugs... I've quitted the game "for ever" literally like 5 times. I'm not gonna get Cataclysm, promise :p

Answer to the question is no, 50% of the install base in day one... Eventually yes, but not so quick. If you count the sales of MW2 and compare them with BO, it's like 15%?

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#26 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="babybinky"]its than not then. y does everybody get those mixed up? it drives me nuts... and wow, ppl still play world of warcraft? i wonder how many of those 12 million subscribers still play on a daily basis? i doubt 5 million so im going to say NO.babybinky

WoW has 12 million active subscribers.

wow that is crazy!!! 12 million suckers wasting there time, im being brutally honest here. anyone else think that this is sad??

I suppose playing other games is not a waste of time? :?

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#27 dolph1073
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but I'm telling you there is a lot, a lot more content in the game than that. Certainly far, far more unique content in WoW than any game you've ever played in your life along with some of the deepest game mechanics in the entire genrBrownesque

all i have to say is

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#28 ChubbyGuy40
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Now that Blizzard is offering it over Digital Distribution from their website, it'll come damn close if it doesn't top. Hoping my wal-mart has collector's editions when I go there at midnight.

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#29 Zero5000X
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Nope, I think Cataclysm will have a lesser launch than Wrath of the Lich King and certainly nowhere near Black Ops.
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#30 Led_poison
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I doubt it.
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#31 Truth_Hurts_U
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Nope... People are ticked off with alot of things in cata. There isn't the excitement as wrath gave us. All we have to look forward to is less talent points... Less skills, longer fights and many other dumb things that made it into this expansion.

We can all thank ghost crawler for bringing us these wonderful things... To help us all quit.

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#32 Led_poison
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Nope... People are ticked off with alot of things in cata. There isn't the excitement as wrath gave us. All we have to look forward to is less talent points... Less skills, longer fights and many other dumb things that made it into this expansion.

We can all thank ghost crawler for bringing us these wonderful things... To help us all quit.

Truth_Hurts_U
Ghostcrawler is awesome. Looks like you got banned by him :lol:
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#33 Lethalhazard
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WoW is so casual. No wonder they're gaining so many subscribers....watering down the complexity of the game (shaving all the older instances by 3/4) and making it easier and more linear to play than ever. Essentially, the game is AIM on steroids.
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#34 Truth_Hurts_U
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Ghostcrawler is awesome. Looks like you got banned by him :lol:Led_poison

LOL... I never got banned. I only post on hunter forum where there is never any blues to read how bad they screwed us up in cata for PVP.

So try harder. GC is the plague of WOW.

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[QUOTE="dolph1073"]you seem to be trying really hard to justify why you play it brownesqueBrownesque
My subscription isn't active. I've subscribed cumulatively, less than a year. My objective was to get in, experience as much content as quickly as possible, and get out. I unsubscribed about 4 days after downing the Lich King for the first time. I cleared all Wrath raids but 2, Ruby Sanc and Ulduar, both Ahn Qirahj vanilla raids, and I cleared all BC raids in that time plus most every 5 man dungeon in the game. Most of that I did within the past, say, 6 months, only a few months of which I was subscribed. I'm not the biggest fan of the game, but I'm telling you there is a lot, a lot more content in the game than that. Certainly far, far more unique content in WoW than any game you've ever played in your life along with some of the deepest game mechanics in the entire genre. I'm not justifying anything other than putting down irrational hate like yours. WoW is a fantastic game and offers a huge bang for your buck. Did you know they even have unique world events, holiday dungeons, annual holiday quests, complete with goodies like flying brooms, vanity pets, toys, and bosses? You don't know anything about WoW if you haven't had a foam sword battle in Orgrimmar or battled with Crash'em Thrash'em Racers in Dalaran. The game is absolutely jam packed with things to do, most of which are deeply involving. So stop trolling.

This is true for raiding. PvP, however, Guild Wars beats. Especially in mechanics....and it's because of the balance.
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#36 Brownesque
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WoW is so casual. No wonder they're gaining so many subscribers....watering down the complexity of the game (shaving all the older instances by 3/4) and making it easier and more linear to play than ever. Essentially, the game is AIM on steroids. Lethalhazard
Oh look, a "IT'S TOO EASY!" troll.

Next time you raid, do it with 6 people and do it on heroic mode in Ulduar gear. See how easy it is then. The game is as hard as you're willing to make it.

BTW no one said they're reducing the level of complexity in encounters. Ghostcrawler said repeatedly that they're bringing CC back into trash encounters and has strongly implied they're nerfing AoE. BTW where's your world first/realm first heroic LK kills if the game is so easy?

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I hope it OWNS COD!

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[QUOTE="babybinky"] wow that is crazy!!! 12 million suckers wasting there time, im being brutally honest here. anyone else think that this is sad??

In one day of CoD BO 656 collective years were spent gaming. Assuming this is consistent up to today (6 or so days later), this means that over 3600 years have been spent playing the game in less then a week.
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#39 Brownesque
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I hope it OWNS COD!

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This is true for raiding. PvP, however, Guild Wars beats. Especially in mechanics....and it's because of the balance.Lethalhazard

Yeah you can say that again... Cata brings even more imbalances to PVP. Pratically every class has a heal now and on top of it all there is way more CC.

Then you have the smarts of GC... Who doesn't let people who have honor buy basic PVP weapons. They force you into PVE which people like me don't want to be a part of.

Warth was all about the PVE gear for PVP. It was never balanced PVP gear VS PVE.

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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]WoW is so casual. No wonder they're gaining so many subscribers....watering down the complexity of the game (shaving all the older instances by 3/4) and making it easier and more linear to play than ever. Essentially, the game is AIM on steroids. Brownesque

Oh look, a "IT'S TOO EASY!" troll.

Next time you raid, do it with 6 people and do it on heroic mode in Ulduar gear. See how easy it is then. The game is as hard as you're willing to make it.

BTW no one said they're reducing the level of complexity in encounters. Ghostcrawler said repeatedly that they're bringing CC back into trash encounters and has strongly implied they're nerfing AoE. BTW where's your world first/realm first heroic LK kills if the game is so easy?

Complexity of the encounters??? On the low level content??? No, they made it easier. Raiding is just as hard as it was during TBC except casual players can also get epics now. That's not really a problem. The linearity of the dungeons in WoTLK, are. And how do you know I'm not part of Blood Legion or Ensidia?! O_O

Obvious WoW trollfanboy is obvious.

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[QUOTE="Led_poison"] Ghostcrawler is awesome. Looks like you got banned by him :lol:Truth_Hurts_U

LOL... I never got banned. I only post on hunter forum where there is never any blues to read how bad they screwed us up in cata for PVP.

So try harder. GC is the plague of WOW.

To the ground baby -Blizzard does not respond with blues in class forums. They have not done this in a long time. Try the DPS forums and Hunters are fine at 85 in pvp. I know because my wrathful gladiator hunter friend has stopped playing on live and now only plays on Beta.
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#43 Lethalhazard
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] This is true for raiding. PvP, however, Guild Wars beats. Especially in mechanics....and it's because of the balance.Truth_Hurts_U

Yeah you can say that again... Cata brings even more imbalances to PVP. Pratically every class has a heal now and on top of it all there is way more CC.

Then you have the smarts of GC... Who doesn't let people who have honor buy basic PVP weapons. They force you into PVE which people like me don't want to be a part of.

Warth was all about the PVE gear for PVP. It was never balanced PVP gear VS PVE.

Of course. They don't give a crap about the PvP players, which is why I quit. It's always been about the PvE but it's sad to see them never catering to PvP players :(. They have what, a couple new battlegrounds (that have no new features) this expansion? Oh joy, you can gain better weapons now through rated battlegrounds....which should have been there for TBC and WoTLK, like you could get HWL gear in the original.
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"12 million active subscribers" means "12 million people paying (usually monthly) and logging in".

If you're not playing, you unsubscribe. Blizzard saves your account. Somewhere on some server there's a level 60 undead priest and a level 60 tauren warrior with my name on it.

Yeah, I could actually see Cataclysm selling that many copies. People seem to be really psyched about it.

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#45 Truth_Hurts_U
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To the ground baby -Blizzard does not respond with blues in class forums. They have not done this in a long time. Try the DPS forums and Hunters are fine at 85 in pvp. I know because my wrathful gladiator hunter friend has stopped playing on live and now only plays on Beta. Led_poison

Hunters are fine? :lol:

Take a look at this. From the legendary hunter himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnc8hEHVvBo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_blQ_zL5WM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8SozY89CwY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50WvDcvMy-k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZWG22x6ufU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1lZnYLNUUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXQ1FrZYCdo

Even the devs don't play hunters... Take a look at this PVP vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HDbSLYDLy4

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#46 BodyElite
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Reach nearly kept up with BO and BO launched on 4 systems! All the losers living in their parents basements are drooling over their preorder receipts right now for this
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#47 Raymundo_Manuel
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I'm guessing 3 million first day sales.

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#48 alextherussian
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[QUOTE="BodyElite"]Reach nearly kept up with BO and BO launched on 4 systems! All the losers living in their parents basements are drooling over their preorder receipts right now for this

CoD nearly double Reach...
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#49 tenaka2
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WoW is so casual. No wonder they're gaining so many subscribers....watering down the complexity of the game (shaving all the older instances by 3/4) and making it easier and more linear to play than ever. Essentially, the game is AIM on steroids. Lethalhazard
It must be great to be so L33T and H4RDc0r3! Can I be like you!!!
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#50 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] This is true for raiding. PvP, however, Guild Wars beats. Especially in mechanics....and it's because of the balance.Truth_Hurts_U

Yeah you can say that again... Cata brings even more imbalances to PVP. Pratically every class has a heal now and on top of it all there is way more CC.

Then you have the smarts of GC... Who doesn't let people who have honor buy basic PVP weapons. They force you into PVE which people like me don't want to be a part of.

Warth was all about the PVE gear for PVP. It was never balanced PVP gear VS PVE.

Yeah, it's fair when one class get's to instantly renew its entire lifebar whereas other classes don't. Do you even know the definition of the word "balance?" That means it's the same ability on both sides. The reason they're bringing self heals to each class (EACH of which have been nerfed to the ground, including Warrior heals and Rogue heals) is because the alternative is increasing survivability of classes without self heals or giving them more damage, both of which create imbalances for PvE. Imagine this scenario. You're a warrior. You do the same damage and you have the same health as a Paladin, but he can instantly refresh his lifebar. How is that fair? They also nerfed CC by removing all CC reduction talents and nerfing CC abilities in and of themselves. No new CC abilities, besides maybe throwdown, which is a cata ability, were added to my recollection. I agree that the game is imbalanced, but for one thing they're trying to balance PvE and PvP. It's a tough balancing act and it's not like they're not trying. Also, you're not telling the truth at all. PVE gear in PvP, which I used for a long time because I spent all my honor on PvE gems and never did arena, sucked. Resilience was where it was at and for the most part people had resilience requirements for arena teams. Resilience was by far the most powerful stat until you were at well over a thousand rating in PvP, and it was ONLY found on PvP gear. PvP gear could be obtained in only a few ways. One, you could exchange PvE tokens for basic PvE gear at the 5 man or raid level. Two, you could spend honor on basic PvE gear. Three, you would need a high arena rating for the best PvP gear. For the best PvP gear you needed to arena, and top end arena players were always wearing PvP gear for PvP. BTW all PvP weapons in Wrath required arena rating. It was NOT POSSIBLE to obtain PvP weapons in Wrath using any PvE methods. Your post is wrong on so many levels. I'm not sure you got anything correct.