Wow, Diablo 3 is really dumbed down

Yeah D2 sure as hell was cartoony, the characters were sprites! And I am sorry but what? Hvae you played Diablo 2 as of late? How is the atmosphere weaker..sSubZerOo

All the symbolism was removed. That's about it.

Wow, this game isn't even out yet and look at all the damage control. :lol: Does another PC AAAE scare you guys that much?

my first thought while playing this gaem...

"this feels like a bad diablo rip off..."

"... oh wait"

Seriously DIablo 3 Beta is on normal on the first few starting areas...play nightmare then come back,oh wait you can't cause the game is not even out yet..Play the full game THEN comment on its difficulty...

Seriously DIablo 3 Beta is on normal on the first few starting areas...play nightmare then come back,oh wait you can't cause the game is not even out yet..Play the full game THEN comment on its difficulty...

Blake135

Why stop at Nightmare, beat the game in Inferno difficulty and then come back complain about its easy ^^

Seriously DIablo 3 Beta is on normal on the first few starting areas...play nightmare then come back,oh wait you can't cause the game is not even out yet..Play the full game THEN comment on its difficulty...

Blake135

They already shut down the servers?:?

Seriously DIablo 3 Beta is on normal on the first few starting areas...play nightmare then come back,oh wait you can't cause the game is not even out yet..Play the full game THEN comment on its difficulty...

Blake135

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]OP is right, Diablo 3 is incredibly dumbed down. At least the combat is a ton of fun. They need to crank up the difficulty a lot though. I don't care about other difficulty levels - the "normal" difficulty isn't hard enough. I don't recall my health ever even dropping...GiveMeSomething

Lol dude, I never played any diablo before and I am pretty much solo'ing on full teams with lvl 1 chars. The difficulty needs to go up by A LOT. I liked the game but its just too easy to the point it's boring. It needs to be tuned up so bad that it scares u to walk further without ur party. It needs to be so hard that u actually need some strategy (even if basic).

In case no one saw it.

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

Seriously DIablo 3 Beta is on normal on the first few starting areas...play nightmare then come back,oh wait you can't cause the game is not even out yet..Play the full game THEN comment on its difficulty...

Frostbite24

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

Seriously DIablo 3 Beta is on normal on the first few starting areas...play nightmare then come back,oh wait you can't cause the game is not even out yet..Play the full game THEN comment on its difficulty...

aroxx_ab

Why stop at Nightmare, beat the game in Inferno difficulty and then come back complain about its easy ^^

EXACTLY !, there are no words to describe how WTF worthy the comments are about how easy it is..

[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]OP is right, Diablo 3 is incredibly dumbed down. At least the combat is a ton of fun. They need to crank up the difficulty a lot though. I don't care about other difficulty levels - the "normal" difficulty isn't hard enough. I don't recall my health ever even dropping...GiveMeSomething

Lol dude, I never played any diablo before and I am pretty much solo'ing on full teams with lvl 1 chars. The difficulty needs to go up by A LOT. I liked the game but its just too easy to the point it's boring. It needs to be tuned up so bad that it scares u to walk further without ur party. It needs to be so hard that u actually need some strategy (even if basic).

In case no one saw it.

Longtime Diablo fan. Loved Diablo1, Diablo2 and its expansion pack.

The beta for D3 is good, but its just the very very begining, pretty much the tutorial, there is ALOT more to the game then what you can play in the beta.

Diablo2 also took awhile to get going.

I get the same addicting feeling in D2 beta as I did in the previous Diablo games.

The only real difference if there is alot mroe color in D3 and the animations/movements are alot better. I feel like its more Diablo, you will either like it or not like it. Hack n Slash games are not for everyone.

Cannot wait to try more of the game when it releases. Try it on nightmare difficulty and the later acts and im sure people will be blown away. I didnt liek Diablo2 much at first until ACT2 to be honest. It almost started slower then D2 did.

The atmospher and feel of Diablo is still there, the loot is still there, its just not quite as dark as the previous ones.

We shall see next month how the final version is. but what ive played in closed and open beta, we are in for a pretty great hack n slash game.

You guys seriously complaining about the difficulty right now? You realize the Beta is on NORMAL and its 1/3 of the FIRST ACT. You basically played the tutorial of the game. Of course its easy! You think D2 is any harder? Go play the game right now up to blood raven. You can literally do it with your eyes closed. The begining is not meant to be hard. Come back when u beat inferno. Personally I think the artstyle is perfectly fine and he lore/story to be totally awesome.

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Blake135"]

Seriously DIablo 3 Beta is on normal on the first few starting areas...play nightmare then come back,oh wait you can't cause the game is not even out yet..Play the full game THEN comment on its difficulty...

exiledsnake

Finished playing the beta and it just confirmed every fears I had about this game. Game is so streamlined and feels dull. 4 player max, dedicated portals, no pvp, non-existent skill trees, cluttered UI and COD-like reward messages splattering all over the screen, etc. Everything looks cartoonish, lacks detail, and technically outdated. It even animates like a cartoon, in a bad way. This looks like something that could've been built on the warcraft 3 engine and released back in 2003. Worse is that there is no dark forboding atmosphere, let alone any. Gameplay is quite mechnical and it just keeps throwing you a mundane list of things to do. Can't believe it took them 12 years to make this.

runbleduck

You guys seriously complaining about the difficulty right now? You realize the Beta is on NORMAL and its 1/3 of the FIRST ACT. You basically played the tutorial of the game. Of course its easy! You think D2 is any harder? Go play the game right now up to blood raven. You can literally do it with your eyes closed. The begining is not meant to be hard. Come back when u beat inferno.

argetlam00

Longtime Diablo fan. Loved Diablo1, Diablo2 and its expansion pack.

The beta for D3 is good, but its just the very very begining, pretty much the tutorial, there is ALOT more to the game then what you can play in the beta.

Diablo2 also took awhile to get going.

I get the same addicting feeling in D2 beta as I did in the previous Diablo games.

The only real difference if there is alot mroe color in D3 and the animations/movements are alot better. I feel like its more Diablo, you will either like it or not like it. Hack n Slash games are not for everyone.

Cannot wait to try more of the game when it releases.

kozzy1234

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Yeah D2 sure as hell was cartoony, the characters were sprites! And I am sorry but what? Hvae you played Diablo 2 as of late? How is the atmosphere weaker..sSubZerOo

and I never said I wanted ultra realistic stuff, I said I liked the original where it was a more serious atmoshphere, you got things in d3 that look like it was pulled from a disney movie

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] The characters are actually DRAWN LOL in Diablo 2.. and Diablo 3 is actually MORE graphic in violence then Diablo 2 thanks to improved physics.. People are talking out of their asses, have you even played Diablo 2 recently? Because the first thing that comes to mind is hardly what I would consider dark and menacing.. I actually thought Diablo 3's beta areas such as the dark forest was far more menacing than anything coming close in Act 1's area, except maybe the Jail and Catacombs.. Even then it was just dark.. People need to get their heads out of their asses if they some how think Diablo 3 is lighter then Diablo 2.. They are different, your comparing a 2d game more or less that used 3d.. To a fully 3d game, D2 was not ultra realistic.. It was colorful and had its own artwork in which the characters did look cartoony.. This chest pounding of wanting ultra realistic stuff or other dribble is nasuating, so basically people want all games to look the same.Frostbite24

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] The characters are actually DRAWN LOL in Diablo 2.. and Diablo 3 is actually MORE graphic in violence then Diablo 2 thanks to improved physics.. People are talking out of their asses, have you even played Diablo 2 recently? Because the first thing that comes to mind is hardly what I would consider dark and menacing.. I actually thought Diablo 3's beta areas such as the dark forest was far more menacing than anything coming close in Act 1's area, except maybe the Jail and Catacombs.. Even then it was just dark.. People need to get their heads out of their asses if they some how think Diablo 3 is lighter then Diablo 2.. They are different, your comparing a 2d game more or less that used 3d.. To a fully 3d game, D2 was not ultra realistic.. It was colorful and had its own artwork in which the characters did look cartoony.. This chest pounding of wanting ultra realistic stuff or other dribble is nasuating, so basically people want all games to look the same.sSubZerOo

http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/archives/diablo-3-too-cartoony/

producerof diablo 2 thinks its too cartoony as well

http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/archives/diablo-3-too-cartoony/

producerof diablo 2 thinks its too cartoony as well

savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="caughtjoo"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

Nope. Diablo 3 is easily the best Diablo game. Theres nothing dumbed down about it.

XaosII

Easily. Both Diablo games are fillled with annoying, outdated, frustrating, and stupid mechanics. D3 fixes nearly all of them.

Diablo 3.. I hope isn't too dumbed down like the TC said, I still haven't played it to tell.. . First I couldn't install the beta client, kept freezing on loading, then it wouldn't finsih downloading and said that "A memory peice can't be written to another memory piece"... arrgh, I finally tricked it by playing before it was finished downloading and can get to login ,but now I have "Server error 37" .... This is the worst beta EVER!!!! i can't even try the damn thing out!!!

[QUOTE="caughtjoo"][QUOTE="XaosII"] sure.,...you sound like one of those bioware appologist that said dragon age 2 was the best game ever. "who needs strategy and tactics when you have great graphcal death scenes and non stop action." or "Who needs inventory, thats so outdated and doesn't work well on consoles.." (me2-3) ... just how it sounds. The mechanics were perfect on Diablo 1 and 2 and other games like Sacred 1 & 2, and titan quest made them great too. Diablo 3.. I hope isn't too dumbed down like the TC said, I still haven't played it to tell.. . First I couldn't install the beta client, kept freezing on loading, then it wouldn't finsih downloading and said that "A memory peice can't be written to another memory piece"... arrgh, I finally tricked it by playing before it was finished downloading and can get to login ,but now I have "Server error 37" .... This is the worst beta EVER!!!! i can't even try the damn thing out!!! My faith in this product is not good at this rate! And blizzard isn't addressing any of these problems on their boards.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]I heard that the skill points are automated, I understand why they would want to do that in an "appeal-to-the-masses" sort of way but personally I'm not too fond of that. :( Hopefully Grim Dawn will be more hardcore.tagyhag

Why? The skill point system in Diablo 2 sucked? Every class had the exact same distribution: Just the minimum Str amd Dex to equip end-tier gear and the rest is dumped into Vit. Hell, even the Sorceress was the same - you didnt need to spend a single poitn into upping magic. There wasnt any customization; only the illusion of customization.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/archives/diablo-3-too-cartoony/

producerof diablo 2 thinks its too cartoony as well

sSubZerOo

Nope. Diablo 3 is easily the best Diablo game. Theres nothing dumbed down about it.

XaosII

From what I played of the beta (and that the beta basically represents less than 0.01% of the game), this sentence is true. DIII will be amazing.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Nope. Diablo 3 is easily the best Diablo game. Theres nothing dumbed down about it.

arto1223

From what I played of the beta (and that the beta basically represents less than 0.01% of the game), this sentence is true. DIII will be amazing.

How can it possibly be "dumbed down" when it has a difficulty mode above DII's which supposedly puts Hell to shame?

The only thing dumbed down to me was the atmosphere, everything else is fine and the game will actually be difficult this time since spam potions are gone.

Why blizzard games always attract these "veterans" (I doubt they realy are).

In wow's case minutes after expansion is announced before they even give proper information "LOLX!!11! (X=mainvillain/mainraces)", "This expansion will suck, its for casuals".

Diablo's case "Why colors! this isnt unicorn game!" "dumbed down for casuals!".

Im not sure about sc2, but I think there where whiners too.

Why blizzard games always attract these "veterans" (I doubt they realy are).

In wow's case when expansion is announced before they even give information "LOLX!!11! (X=mainvillain/mainraces)", "This expansion will suck, its for casuals".

Diablo's case "Why colors! this isnt unicorn game!" "dumbed down for casuals!".

Im not sure about sc2, but I think there where whiners too.

Nohtnym

People whined SC2 was a reskin. When blizz makes changes people whine that Diablo isn't Diablo. Gamers are a whiny bunch, and they don't complain when they really should.

I was interested in getting this title and I probably still will. I agree with a lot of posts up here. Diablo has a pretty basic format, which is fine by me. I still love the original Baldurs Gate.

Blizzard is so funny

First they destroy the atmosphere and art, then they use a PS1 like engine and now totally destroy the gameplay too

What a joke, this game could be the biggest dissapointment of all time

Blizzard is so funny

First they destroy the atmosphere and art, then they use a PS1 like engine and now totally destroy the gameplay too

What a joke, this game could be the biggest dissapointment of all time

loosingENDS

Blizzard is so funny

First they destroy the atmosphere and art, then they use a PS1 like engine and now totally destroy the gameplay too

What a joke, this game could be the biggest dissapointment of all time

loosingENDS

Says the guy who was so hyped for it that he thought rumors were confirmation of a console version. Oh my how your attitude has turned.

Blizzard is so funny

First they destroy the atmosphere and art, then they use a PS1 like engine and now totally destroy the gameplay too

What a joke, this game could be the biggest dissapointment of all time

loosingENDS

Gotta say that I'm disappointed. Diablo 3 isn't an action RPG anymore. It just an action game. They took out all the small RPG elements Diablo franchise had. I can't choose the skills I want nor I can't decide myself how to spend points on attributes. I couldn't even finish the beta, it was so boring. Got to level 10 before stopping.

Gotta say that I'm disappointed. Diablo 3 isn't an action RPG anymore. It just an action game. They took out all the small RPG elements Diablo franchise had. I can't choose the skills I want nor I can't decide myself how to spend points on attributes. I couldn't even finish the beta, it was so boring. Got to level 10 before stopping.

Icarian

[QUOTE="Icarian"]

Gotta say that I'm disappointed. Diablo 3 isn't an action RPG anymore. It just an action game. They took out all the small RPG elements Diablo franchise had. I can't choose the skills I want nor I can't decide myself how to spend points on attributes. I couldn't even finish the beta, it was so boring. Got to level 10 before stopping.

PurpleHaze89

Yes I can choose what to use, but I can't choose what skills to pick. The game makes that choise for me. There are no skill trees like D2 had. So, yes I agree with TC on some level. D3 is simplified.