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#1 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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I held off on this game because I didnt have a 360 At the time and I heard the Ps3 version was garbage. I rented it for ps3 a while back but didnt get far before i took it back, had other games to play at the time I think. I am Huge GOW and NG fan, I thought NG was the king of combos and gameplay in this genre, boy was I wrong Bayonetta should have got a 10.0, I am on chapter 12 and am already thinking about my 2nd playtru. I suprised it is not considered the standard for hack and slash games. I even find the story great and am very interested in seeing how it ends. For me bayonetta sets the bar, shame I missed the party. There is a huge difference in the ps3 and 360 version, someone here said at one point that after the patches it was on par, it actually is so much better in so many little ways that it feels like a different game then the ps3 version, IMO>

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#2 Anastasia1997
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I held off on this game because I didnt have a 360 At the time and I herd the Ps3 version was garbage. I rented it for ps3 a while back but didnt get far before i took it back, had other games to play at the time I think. I am Huge GOS and NG fan, I thought NG was the king of combos and gameplay in this genre, boy was I wrong Bayonetta should have got a 10.0, I am on chapter 12 and am already thinking about my 2nd playtru. I suprised it is not considered the standard for hack and slash games. I even find the story great and am very interested in seeing how it ends. For me bayonetta sets the bar, same I missed the party. There is a huge difference in the ps3 and 360 version, someone here said at one point that after the patches it was on par, it actually is so much better in so many little ways that it feels like a different game then the ps3 version, IMO>

Advid-Gamer
Sure, you might like the combat more, but GOW has a much higher MC/GR for a reason...Its a much better package than Bayonetta
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#3 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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The story is incomprehensible, the action is stylized and fun, but not outstanding. I enjoyed playing it but for hack-and-slash gameplay, I would choose GoW over Bayonetta.

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#4 Ragnarok1051
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I'm going to have to disagree with you very much so.

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#5 ArchoNils2
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The story is incomprehensible, the action is stylized and fun, but not outstanding. I enjoyed playing it but for hack-and-slash gameplay, I would choose GoW over Bayonetta.

jimkabrhel

agreed, but I would also (personal opinion) put Dante's Inferno and what I saw of Castlevania over it :S Anyway, as you said yourself, your late to the party, I doubt system wars cares anymore and this would fit better as a blog

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#6 johny300
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Bayonetta is like really fast paced, i like that but i prefer NG and GOW better story and gameplay wise.
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#7 djsifer01
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I strongly disagree, the GOW series(GOW3 especially) were much, much better games.
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#8 johny300
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I would even choose Castlevania over bayonetta.
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#9 mo0ksi
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I love the game and all, but you're kinda overblowing it, especially when it comes to the story.
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#10 Raymundo_Manuel
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I never played Bayonetta.


Current king for me is Batman: AA. I've never been more satisified beating the crap out of people :P

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#11 mo0ksi
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I would even choose Castlevania over bayonetta.johny300
The latest CV game was a cruel joke. There's NOTHING in that game you can call its own. It doesn't even try to resemble the series it claims to represent.
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#12 djsifer01
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I would even choose Castlevania over bayonetta.johny300
I agree with this.
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#13 johnnyblazed88
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i agree bayonetta was even better then GOW3

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Wow I am shocked no one else thinks so, oh well everyone likes different games. Gow3 was my least favorite in the series, Gow2=epic. I loved NG black but NG2=trash in every way other then pure combat and graphics.

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[QUOTE="johny300"]I would even choose Castlevania over bayonetta.mo0ksi
The latest CV game was a cruel joke. There's NOTHING in that game you can call its own. It doesn't even try to resemble the series it claims to represent.

Who cares if there was anything in it you could call its own. It was still a better game than Bayonetta IMHO.
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#16 chikenfriedrice
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I hated it with a passion...it was way over the top and confusing...couldn't even tell what was going on most the time....GOW3 was so much better IMO

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#17 madsnakehhh
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Nah, don't worry my friend, nobody is late when it's about enjoying the best action game ever and my personal GOTY so far, Bayonetta is no doubt among the best games this gen and i'm glad you like that much, the story is not as bad as people tend to claim, specially when you compare it to other hack and slash games.

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#18 Ragnarok1051
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Wow I am shocked no one else thinks so, oh well everyone likes different games. Gow3 was my least favorite in the series, Gow2=epic. I loved NG black but NG2=trash in every way other then pure combat and graphics.

Advid-Gamer
You lost me when you said the story was great. The game had no story.
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#19 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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I love the game and all, but you're kinda overblowing it, especially when it comes to the story.mo0ksi
Im not over blowing it, I find it interesting. I cant over blow my opinion.
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[QUOTE="johny300"]I would even choose Castlevania over bayonetta.djsifer01
I agree with this.

Me too.

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#21 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Wow I am shocked no one else thinks so, oh well everyone likes different games. Gow3 was my least favorite in the series, Gow2=epic. I loved NG black but NG2=trash in every way other then pure combat and graphics.

Ragnarok1051
You lost me when you said the story was great. The game had no story.

How does it not have a story?
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#22 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Wow I am shocked no one else thinks so, oh well everyone likes different games. Gow3 was my least favorite in the series, Gow2=epic. I loved NG black but NG2=trash in every way other then pure combat and graphics.

Advid-Gamer
You lost me when you said the story was great. The game had no story.

How does it not have a story?

The story was terrible. It might as well not have had one.
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#23 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="johny300"] The latest CV game was a cruel joke. There's NOTHING in that game you can call its own. It doesn't even try to resemble the series it claims to represent.djsifer01
Who cares if there was anything in it you could call its own. It was still a better game than Bayonetta IMHO.

You know, you don't need to put 'IMO' in every single thing. I know it's your opinion. You are the one posting after all. And who cares? There's nothing else supporting that game. I wouldn't mind if it borrowed heavily from other games if there was some other kind of payoff to it. But there isn't. Not only does it blatantly borrow from several different games, some of the aspects in its design make it a lesser experience than most hack and slashes. The only thing I can give it credit for over Bayonetta is its visual design.


Im not over blowing it, I find it interesting. I cant over blow my opinion.Advid-Gamer
It's interesting, sure. But it's not the same as good. The game's over the top sty1e makes it hard to take any of the game's plot seriously, not to mention that the actual narrative is jacked.

You're overblowing it because you're still fresh off the experience. It will lose its luster on you sooner or later.

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#24 lamprey263
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better late than never, Bayonetta is the best beat-em-up this year, loved it way more than God of War 3 even
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Wow I am shocked no one else thinks so, oh well everyone likes different games. Gow3 was my least favorite in the series, Gow2=epic. I loved NG black but NG2=trash in every way other then pure combat and graphics.

Ragnarok1051

You lost me when you said the story was great. The game had no story.

I honestly don't see why the story receive so much hate, specially, like i said, when you compare it to other stories like GOW or NG, because let's be fair, in both games the story was the least interesting aspect, and at least in Bayo, there was some funny or even cute moments, again, the story is no master pieces, but it wasnt bad at all for this type of game.

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#27 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Wow I am shocked no one else thinks so, oh well everyone likes different games. Gow3 was my least favorite in the series, Gow2=epic. I loved NG black but NG2=trash in every way other then pure combat and graphics.

madsnakehhh

You lost me when you said the story was great. The game had no story.

I honestly don't see why the story receive so much hate, specially, like i said, when you compare it to other stories like GOW or NG, because let's be fair, in both games the story was the least interesting aspect, and at least in Bayo, there was some funny or even cute moments, again, the story is no master pieces, but it wasnt bad at all for this type of game.

When compared to GOW the story really was crap.
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#28 johny300
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

For me bayonetta sets the bar, shame I missed the party.

Slashkice

Son, you're never too late for the Bayonetta party.

I agree with you completely. Though ridiculous, the story was enjoyable to sit through (not that it even matters in an action game). The battle system is pure bliss, easily up there as one of the best. Definitely the best hack'n slash this gen, can't wait for the sequel.

There's a sequal?
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#29 johny300
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Castlevania's ending was just epic, bayonetta was just meh.
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#30 lazerface216
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The story is incomprehensible, the action is stylized and fun, but not outstanding. I enjoyed playing it but for hack-and-slash gameplay, I would choose GoW over Bayonetta.

jimkabrhel

i agree, bayonetta was great though and a bit longer too.

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#31 tagyhag
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I agree, but for some reason people think since the game's story sucks (Even though it's purposely done) the game isn't the best Hack N Slash. Because as well all know, Hack N Slash games are the epitome of games where stories are concerned. :lol:
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#33 Some-Mist
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I definitely agree with those who prefer bayonetta, just as I prefer DMC more than GoW and NG.

bayo can rely on it's combat (the main and most important aspect of a hack-n-slash) alone to provide an excellent game with great playability. Games like GoW, not so much. It requires that puzzles and platforming segments (and not very good ones at that) be in between the combat sequences so that the player doesn't get bored from the simplistic combat that the game offers. The story is great for one play through, but since the combat is so simple the game is very easy to master it's not worth replaying - one reason being that you're not really competing on leaderboards.

I've beaten GoW 1 + 2 twice, the GoW collection (1 + 2 again), and GoW III once. DMC 1, 3, 4 and bayonetta I've beaten 4 times + each and I'm about to give bayonetta a couple more playthroughs when I pick up the version for my new 360 (played it on my PS3).

I agree, but for some reason people think since the game's story sucks (Even though it's purposely done) the game isn't the best Hack N Slash. Because as well all know, Hack N Slash games are the epitome of games where stories are concerned. :lol:tagyhag

exactly ^

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#34 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="johny300"]There's a sequal?Slashkice

Not announced. Very likely given how well received Bayonetta was critically and in sales though.

I'd be fearing the sequel. Unless Hideki directs it as well. :D
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#35 alfredooo
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Ninja Giaden Black destroys all.

But Bayonetta is by far the best one this gen.

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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] You lost me when you said the story was great. The game had no story. Ragnarok1051

I honestly don't see why the story receive so much hate, specially, like i said, when you compare it to other stories like GOW or NG, because let's be fair, in both games the story was the least interesting aspect, and at least in Bayo, there was some funny or even cute moments, again, the story is no master pieces, but it wasnt bad at all for this type of game.

When compared to GOW the story really was crap.

Yeah, because the "I'm teh Kratos i will kill you all" is a much more complex story than the "I'm hot, i will kill you all" honestly, both are at the same level.

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#37 good_sk8er7
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I actually didn't like it at all

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#38 Chubith
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I loved Bayonetta, but NG series is better to me. GoW has that epic feeling. DMC needs a better treatment. Overall I would say NG>GoW>Castlevania>Bayonetta>DMC. I cant take anything away from any of those games though. All were great games.

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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] You lost me when you said the story was great. The game had no story. Ragnarok1051

I honestly don't see why the story receive so much hate, specially, like i said, when you compare it to other stories like GOW or NG, because let's be fair, in both games the story was the least interesting aspect, and at least in Bayo, there was some funny or even cute moments, again, the story is no master pieces, but it wasnt bad at all for this type of game.

When compared to GOW the story really was crap.


GoW Story: Kratos be mad.
Bayonetta story: Lolwut.
I'd say it's about even.

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#40 Chris_Williams
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meh, god of war is still better imo, though bayonetta comes a close 2

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#41 carljohnson3456
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I want Bayonetta. It being only $30 now, I will be buying soon.
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#42 Ragnarok1051
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I agree, but for some reason people think since the game's story sucks (Even though it's purposely done) the game isn't the best Hack N Slash. Because as well all know, Hack N Slash games are the epitome of games where stories are concerned. :lol:tagyhag
I would say the game isn't the best hack n slash because it isn't.
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#43 AvnKnight
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No just no, this game is just too insanely easy for it to be greater then anything, and the only good thing the game does is the combat, but who cares about the combat if the enemy's are just punching bags makes teh game boring really fast unless your making a combo video. Seriously the boss battles might as well just be regular enemies with inflated health bars, thats how much of a joke they are the only reason there a boss is because of there size not because of there difficulty. Ninja Gaiden is still the King of this genre..

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#44 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]I agree, but for some reason people think since the game's story sucks (Even though it's purposely done) the game isn't the best Hack N Slash. Because as well all know, Hack N Slash games are the epitome of games where stories are concerned. :lol:Ragnarok1051
I would say the game isn't the best hack n slash because it isn't.

Considering it has THE best hack n slash gameplay (Really there's no contest) and considering that gameplay is the BIGGEST (We're talking over 50%) factor as to what makes a hack n slash good. I say it is. :D
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#45 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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i will never understand how anyone can actually like bayonetta, it was really awful

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#46 babybinky
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greater than ninja gaiden??!!?!? well thats your opinion but to me ninja gaiden will always be the king of action/adventure.

god of war has bad gameplay imo so i can see your opinion there, and possibly better than ninja gaiden 2..... but no im sorry. NINJA GAIDEN/black/sigma > all hack and slashes

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]I agree, but for some reason people think since the game's story sucks (Even though it's purposely done) the game isn't the best Hack N Slash. Because as well all know, Hack N Slash games are the epitome of games where stories are concerned. :lol:tagyhag
I would say the game isn't the best hack n slash because it isn't.

Considering it has THE best hack n slash gameplay (Really there's no contest) and considering that gameplay is the BIGGEST (We're talking over 50%) factor as to what makes a hack n slash good. I say it is. :D

I'm no hack n slash gamer, but the combat wasn't anything spectacular to me. I found the combat in DMC3 to be better.
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#48 tagyhag
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I'm no hack n slash gamer, but the combat wasn't anything spectacular to me. I found the combat in DMC3 to be better. Ragnarok1051

It's easily the most fluid combat for any Hack N Slash game to ever be released.

DMC3's combat has flashy looks, and is quite fun.

But going back to the game after playing Bayonetta is just painful, it truly feels archaic.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] I'm no hack n slash gamer, but the combat wasn't anything spectacular to me. I found the combat in DMC3 to be better. tagyhag

It's easily the most fluid combat for any Hack N Slash game to ever be released.

DMC3's combat has flashy looks, and is quite fun.

But going back to the game after playing Bayonetta is just painful, it truly feels archaic.

please stop talking about bayonetta and go play ninja gaiden already... then come back

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#50 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] I'm no hack n slash gamer, but the combat wasn't anything spectacular to me. I found the combat in DMC3 to be better. tagyhag

It's easily the most fluid combat for any Hack N Slash game to ever be released.

DMC3's combat has flashy looks, and is quite fun.

But going back to the game after playing Bayonetta is just painful, it truly feels archaic.

Can't exactly comment on the fluid part, but to point out DMC's flashiness and not point out Bayonetta's is kinda ignoring it.