WoW Ownz Your Soul.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]Again I said it was presumed she was dead. I never said the books said she were imprisoned.Vandalvideo

That's NOT THE POINT OMG. SHE IS PRESUMED DEAD IN THE BOOKS, there is NO PROOF there is none of them who knows whether she is alive or not. World of warcraft continues the story from the books. THE FACT IS SHE TURNED OUT TO BE ALIVE IMPRISONED INSTEAD OF BEING DEAD. THE BOOK THAT SAYS SHE IS IN A CELL IS WORLD OF WARCRAFT: THE BURNING CRUSADE.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Espada12"]Again I said it was presumed she was dead. I never said the books said she were imprisoned.Nerkcon

Yea I mean plot twists NEVER happened before. I am glad you are ignoring all my evidence and just trying to see what you want but ok.

That's NOT THE POINT OMG. SHE IS PRESUMED DEAD IN THE BOOKS, there is NO PROOF there is none of them who knows whether she is alive or not. World of warcraft continues the story from the books. THE FACT IS SHE TURNED OUT TO BE ALIVE IMPRISONED INSTEAD OF BEING DEAD. THE BOOK THAT SAYS SHE IS IN A CELL IS WORLD OF WARCRAFT: THE BURNING CRUSADE. Espada12

The experience in WoW is like an all-you-can-eat buffet catered by McDonalds. Yeah, look, they have more french frieds, cheeseburgers, chicken nuggets, and salad shakers than anyone, and the amount of "hours" (or I guess in my analogy, calories ) for your buck is insane.

But after a while, you're just eating the same damn burger, day-after-day, and it's not all that good for you. If the social aspect is your thing, you're far better off going on sites like GameSpot, or to your college gaming groups, and finding people who enjoy gaming overall. They have a healthier balance between "real life" and "gaming" than most WoW players, they change up the games they play often (preventing boredom) and because you're not putting so much of your life into one thing that is ultimate just a never-ending game, you never lose sight of why you're playing.

Back to the all-you-can-eat buffet analogy, this buffet is 24-hours, you can eat as much as you want, as long as pay the monthly table charge. So you can sit there and eat, and eat, and eat. No one tells you to stop, no one makes you leave, you can play as long as you like. But that's not heaven, at least not to me. I'd rather have a restaurant experience. I'd rather have on excellent, complete meal, with appetizers (beginning), a main course (middle), and dessert (end), pay the cheque, and be left wanting to go out again sometime.

Playing online with my friends on LIVE or STEAM, playing for a few hours twice a week, or tackling some single player games in a spare hour or two, that's fun, that's something that enriches my life. WoW... I found in short bursts it wasn't even close to the engagemet or quality of a regular game, and that the amount of time it required to be rewarding made it a life replacement, rather than enhancement.

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You know how you really know that WoW is a cheap buffet? Talk to the people who stopped playing, after spending years playing the game. They feel sick, they feel like they put all this time and effort in for nothing. And then they go back to it, because they've put so much time and effort in. Like "just one more month, let me make it mean something". Now not everyone has that experience, some people can go to the buffet and eat a sensible amount, they can leave before they get sick, and enjoy it for what it was. Some people want to pig out every now and then. But when people suggest WoW should replace the standard gaming, I have to say "no... it's time to leave the McDonald's Buffet, and get some real food".

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Espada12"]Again I said it was presumed she was dead. I never said the books said she were imprisoned.Espada12

Yea I mean plot twists NEVER happened before. I am glad you are ignoring all my evidence and just trying to see what you want but ok.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]That's NOT THE POINT OMG. SHE IS PRESUMED DEAD IN THE BOOKS, there is NO PROOF there is none of them who knows whether she is alive or not. World of warcraft continues the story from the books. THE FACT IS SHE TURNED OUT TO BE ALIVE IMPRISONED INSTEAD OF BEING DEAD. THE BOOK THAT SAYS SHE IS IN A CELL IS WORLD OF WARCRAFT: THE BURNING CRUSADE. Vandalvideo

Can't get any better than this one.

Emerging from the portal, Maiev and her soldiers found themselves on the shattered planet of Outland. They soon discovered that Illidan had come alone, leaving his naga servants on Azeroth. Greatly outnumbered, Illidan discovered that his evil powers were of little use against cold steel, and his recapture proved to be fairly easy.

Too easy. Maiev was bringing the caged demon back to her base when she was attacked. The naga had arrived on Outland, and they had brought new allies: the same blood elves that Maiev had helped escape the Scourge earlier. Maiev and her soldiers fought the naga and their traitorous elven friends, but the new army outnumbered hers, and eventually she was defeated. The naga and blood elves recaptured Illidan and freed him.

Illidan and his allies have had little or no communication with the living denizens of Azeroth since that time. His brief return to Azeroth and his defeat by Arthas Menethil are, of course, public knowledge, but Maiev's ultimate fate has remained a matter of conjecture. Neither she nor any of her followers have been sighted on Azeroth since they followed Illidan to Outland. Given her unrelenting hate for Illidan, his continued good health is obviously a very bad sign. She is presumed dead, slain during her pursuit of vengeance.

PRESUMED DEAD... AS NO ONE KNEW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/encyclopedia/472.xml

LINKED TO WOW'S OFFICIAL SITE, I seriously can't present better evidence than this.

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[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Espada12"]Again I said it was presumed she was dead. I never said the books said she were imprisoned.Nerkcon

Yea I mean plot twists NEVER happened before. I am glad you are ignoring all my evidence and just trying to see what you want but ok.

SHE IS NEVER CONFIRMED DEAD. Everyone thinks she is. OMG, she left for outland and never came back so everyone believed she died. Seriously.

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[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Espada12"]Again I said it was presumed she was dead. I never said the books said she were imprisoned.Espada12

Yea I mean plot twists NEVER happened before. I am glad you are ignoring all my evidence and just trying to see what you want but ok.

SHE IS NEVER CONFIRMED DEAD. Everyone thinks she is. OMG, she left for outland and never came back so everyone believed she died. Seriously.

PRESUMED DEAD... AS NO ONE KNEW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.Espada12

Said so in the book. The books are official parts of the story and plot. Then again, did you inspect much from ex-SOE and ex-everquest developers and a bunch of people who got in because of hooks ups? (The one of the head writers got in because he was friends with one of the head developers. Forgot his name but he made the Gary Sue Rhonin.)Nerkcon

And there are those same books from different perspectives that say she is believed to be dead.

WoW FTW, I'm heading back to the land of Azeroth myself. I can't wait to hit lvl 80 and continue to smash face in PvP. The OP is right, in terms of gameplay, content, support, the amount of players, skills etc. WoW is simply unrivaled.Ramadear

I agree.

Wrath of the Lich King is right around the corner, and WoW is at 11 MILLION ACTIVE subscribers, that is truly impressive for a game with a subscription fee. I quit about 4 months ago but I'm downloading the latest patches(1.6gig worth) and I'm heading back into the land of Azeroth.

My question to System Wars is this, who do so many of you consolites hate on WoW, it's a blizzard RPG, everyone loves Blizzard games, it's online(My server has over 17 THOUSAND players), you consolites flip if a game doesn't have online, it has more replay value then every console exclusive this gen put together, the gameplay is great, the lore is great, the polish is unbelievable, it has the Blizzard touch of Gold, GREAT humour, constant content updates, you'll never find a cheater, bugs are fixed extremely fast.

The only problem I have with WoW is it's so addicitive you end up not playing anything else, but in the end this is because WoW kicks ***.

Eddie-Vedder

People hate it because they are to cheap to play it.

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I remember the day when I thought Illidan was still alive.

Then, in a thread in SW, I found out how Blizzard destroyed that which was awesome.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]PRESUMED DEAD... AS NO ONE KNEW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.Vandalvideo