WTF is this "K2 is unrealistic" Talk?

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#301 gamewatereddown
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] You can climb ladders in KZ2. It's an aspect of the design that doesn't allow players to climb over certain objects. The same with going prone. If a game doesn't allow you to take a crap (which we can do in real life), it doesn't mean said game isn't realistic in any capacity.

taking a crap isnt a part of shooting so ur logic is retarded. all of the stuff im mentioning helps you shoot. SERIOUSLY PEOPLE YOU DONT EVEN OWN REAL GUNS AND UR ARGUING AGAINST ME YOU KNOW HOW RETARDED THAT IS? LOL WHAT **** GUNS DO YOU OWN TELL ME THE NAMES NOW. show me a pic, show me you have any idea wtf ur talking about. just because you played killzone2 doesnt mean you know **** about guns or whats realistic or not.

you have NO idea what your talking about. lol

im talking to a brainless douche who never handled a real gun in his life or own one and trying to argue against what i say you know how foolish that is? seriously WHAT REAL GUNS DO YOU PEOPLE OWN? TELL ME STOP DODGING QUESTION
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] taking a crap isnt a part of shooting so ur logic is retarded. all of the stuff im mentioning helps you shoot. SERIOUSLY PEOPLE YOU DONT EVEN OWN REAL GUNS AND UR ARGUING AGAINST ME YOU KNOW HOW RETARDED THAT IS? LOL WHAT **** GUNS DO YOU OWN TELL ME THE NAMES NOW. show me a pic, show me you have any idea wtf ur talking about. just because you played killzone2 doesnt mean you know **** about guns or whats realistic or not.

you have NO idea what your talking about. lol

im talking to a brainless douche who never handled a real gun in his life or own one and trying to argue against what i say you know how foolish that is? seriously WHAT REAL GUNS DO YOU PEOPLE OWN? TELL ME STOP DODGING QUESTION

Here you go... I don't own any guns nor have I ever shot a real gun (besides BB). Everything I've stated in this debate has been logical. I don't need to fire one to know common sense. Point out anything I've said that isn't reasonable (excluding any sarcasm).
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#303 gamewatereddown
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If you dont own a real gun then you have zero creditability in this thread. guns i own 16 gauge double barrel 12 gauge single barrel 22 rugar 10-22 22 cal rifle rossey 22 cal revolver m1 carbine russian sks 30 cal mac-90 aka legal version of ak-47 GIVEN TO ME BY MY DAD SHOT THEM AS A KID GROWING UP. SORRY PEOPLE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES DOESNT MAKE YOU A MASTER AT GUNS LOL.
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#304 gamewatereddown
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Slambo86"] you have NO idea what your talking about. lol

im talking to a brainless douche who never handled a real gun in his life or own one and trying to argue against what i say you know how foolish that is? seriously WHAT REAL GUNS DO YOU PEOPLE OWN? TELL ME STOP DODGING QUESTION

Here you go... I don't own any guns nor have I ever shot a real gun (besides BB). Everything I've stated in this debate has been logical. I don't need to fire one to know common sense. Point out anything I've said that isn't reasonable (excluding any sarcasm).

nope you need to shoot a gun to know what ur talking about that isnt common sense thing, it's common sense how to handle them though.
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#305 Slambo86
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] taking a crap isnt a part of shooting so ur logic is retarded. all of the stuff im mentioning helps you shoot. SERIOUSLY PEOPLE YOU DONT EVEN OWN REAL GUNS AND UR ARGUING AGAINST ME YOU KNOW HOW RETARDED THAT IS? LOL WHAT **** GUNS DO YOU OWN TELL ME THE NAMES NOW. show me a pic, show me you have any idea wtf ur talking about. just because you played killzone2 doesnt mean you know **** about guns or whats realistic or not.

you have NO idea what your talking about. lol

im talking to a brainless douche who never handled a real gun in his life or own one and trying to argue against what i say you know how foolish that is? seriously WHAT REAL GUNS DO YOU PEOPLE OWN? TELL ME STOP DODGING QUESTION

I've handled a AWSM rifle...have you...how bout the AR-15 military rifle? do you know the recoil and weight of those? Do you know the feeling of running with one?
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If you dont own a real gun then you have zero creditability in this thread. guns i own 16 gauge double barrel 12 gauge single barrel 22 rugar 10-22 22 cal rifle rossey 22 cal revolver m1 carbine russian sks 30 cal mac-90 aka legal version of ak-47 GIVEN TO ME BY MY DAD SHOT THEM AS A KID GROWING UP. SORRY PEOPLE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES DOESNT MAKE YOU A MASTER AT GUNS LOL.gamewatereddown
Please tell us why COD is so realistic. Break down the mechanics of the maneuverability, recoil, speed, and weight all based on realistic combat procedures and simulation. Tell me why is it that when I stab someone with a knife, it tracks and stabs the target like a magnet.

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#307 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] im talking to a brainless douche who never handled a real gun in his life or own one and trying to argue against what i say you know how foolish that is? seriously WHAT REAL GUNS DO YOU PEOPLE OWN? TELL ME STOP DODGING QUESTION

Here you go... I don't own any guns nor have I ever shot a real gun (besides BB). Everything I've stated in this debate has been logical. I don't need to fire one to know common sense. Point out anything I've said that isn't reasonable (excluding any sarcasm).

nope you need to shoot a gun to know what ur talking about that isnt common sense thing, it's common sense how to handle them though.

Please show me where I've been unreasonable in my debate with you. Point it out. Save the analogy about excreting.
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#308 gamewatereddown
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]If you dont own a real gun then you have zero creditability in this thread. guns i own 16 gauge double barrel 12 gauge single barrel 22 rugar 10-22 22 cal rifle rossey 22 cal revolver m1 carbine russian sks 30 cal mac-90 aka legal version of ak-47 GIVEN TO ME BY MY DAD SHOT THEM AS A KID GROWING UP. SORRY PEOPLE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES DOESNT MAKE YOU A MASTER AT GUNS LOL.

Please tell us why COD is so realistic. Break down the mechanics of the maneuverability, recoil, speed all based on real combat procedures and simulation. Tell me why is it that when I stab someone with a knife, it tracks and stabs the target like a magnet.

first of all call of duty actually has real life guns modeled in the game, while killzone2 doesnt. seriously worked all day, but it pisses me off to see how foolish people really are. i think realism sucks, that's why i play games like quake where you can rocket jump and crap stuff you cant do in real life. that's why games suck now everything's trying to be realistic and it's boring because i live realistic everyday in real life lol. i dont need to see realism in a game.
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#309 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]If you dont own a real gun then you have zero creditability in this thread. guns i own 16 gauge double barrel 12 gauge single barrel 22 rugar 10-22 22 cal rifle rossey 22 cal revolver m1 carbine russian sks 30 cal mac-90 aka legal version of ak-47 GIVEN TO ME BY MY DAD SHOT THEM AS A KID GROWING UP. SORRY PEOPLE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES DOESNT MAKE YOU A MASTER AT GUNS LOL.

Please tell us why COD is so realistic. Break down the mechanics of the maneuverability, recoil, speed all based on real combat procedures and simulation. Tell me why is it that when I stab someone with a knife, it tracks and stabs the target like a magnet.

first of all call of duty actually has real life guns modeled in the game, while killzone2 doesnt. seriously worked all day, but it pisses me off to see how foolish people really are. i think realism sucks, that's why i play games like quake where you can rocket jump and crap stuff you cant do in real life. that's why games suck now everything's trying to be realistic and it's boring because i live realistic everyday in real life lol. i dont need to see realism in a game.

Soo... You can't huh? Modeling real life guns doesn't make the game "realistic" if all the mechanics of said guns aren't true to life. Not only weapons, but physics as well.
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#310 Slambo86
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wait now your doing a 180...saying you hate realism? and now saying those games piss you off....then claim COD4 is more realistic? wtf? what you just said backs up my claims..of those games being more played because of the fun factors...(can't do in real life) so K2 is hard for players of those games at the beginning..that doesn't mean it ins't realistic.

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#311 Pariah-
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]first of all call of duty actually has real life guns modeled in the game, while killzone2 doesnt. seriously worked all day, but it pisses me off to see how foolish people really are. i think realism sucks, that's why i play games like quake where you can rocket jump and crap stuff you cant do in real life. that's why games suck now everything's trying to be realistic and it's boring because i live realistic everyday in real life lol. i dont need to see realism in a game.

Real life guns? How does that actually address your original arguments about using firearms? That has more to do with decorum than it does with actually realism. You'd first have to make an argument that Killzone's guns couldn't exist.
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#312 gamewatereddown
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I was lucky to have the dad i did, most parents dont teach their kids **** about guns dude. that makes me sad, that was part of my childhood you know my dad's friend is member of this hunt club, we'd go up there and shoot when i was a kid. i even thought my brother was gonna die once LOL. he was shooting his ak-47 at a old timey metal refrigerator lol, a piece of the bullet actually ricocheted back and hit him in the side lol. it cut through his shirt and was a piece of metal sticking out of his skin LOL. but it didnt go in him so he was good just got cut.
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#313 gamewatereddown
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[QUOTE="Pariah-"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]first of all call of duty actually has real life guns modeled in the game, while killzone2 doesnt. seriously worked all day, but it pisses me off to see how foolish people really are. i think realism sucks, that's why i play games like quake where you can rocket jump and crap stuff you cant do in real life. that's why games suck now everything's trying to be realistic and it's boring because i live realistic everyday in real life lol. i dont need to see realism in a game.

Real life guns? How does that actually address your original arguments about using firearms? That has more to do with decorum than it does with actually realism. You'd first have to make an argument that Killzone's guns couldn't exist.

because dude i know more about fps or guns you should listen to what i gotta say.
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#314 DonPerian
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Show me a realistic video game and I'll give you a cookie.
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#315 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]I was lucky to have the dad i did, most parents dont teach their kids **** about guns dude. that makes me sad, that was part of my childhood you know my dad's friend is member of this hunt club, we'd go up there and shoot when i was a kid. i even thought my brother was gonna die once LOL. he was shooting his ak-47 at a old timey metal refrigerator lol, a piece of the bullet actually ricocheted back and his him in the side lol. it cut through his shirt and was a piece of metal sticking out of his skin LOL. but it didnt go in him so he was good just got cut.

I like your stories and history. It's just not contributing to your arguments and criticisms.
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Pariah-"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]first of all call of duty actually has real life guns modeled in the game, while killzone2 doesnt. seriously worked all day, but it pisses me off to see how foolish people really are. i think realism sucks, that's why i play games like quake where you can rocket jump and crap stuff you cant do in real life. that's why games suck now everything's trying to be realistic and it's boring because i live realistic everyday in real life lol. i dont need to see realism in a game.

Real life guns? How does that actually address your original arguments about using firearms? That has more to do with decorum than it does with actually realism. You'd first have to make an argument that Killzone's guns couldn't exist.

because dude i know more about fps or guns you should listen to what i gotta say.

So guns weigh nothing?
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Pariah-"] Real life guns? How does that actually address your original arguments about using firearms? That has more to do with decorum than it does with actually realism. You'd first have to make an argument that Killzone's guns couldn't exist.

because dude i know more about fps or guns you should listen to what i gotta say.

So guns weigh nothing?

next to nothing.
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#319 gamewatereddown
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i wish i was mod lol /thread if you dont own a gun or never shot one you have zero creditability, bcause you dont know what's realistic or unrealistic in a fps if you never shot a gun.
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] because dude i know more about fps or guns you should listen to what i gotta say.

So guns weigh nothing?

next to nothing.

Seven pounds plus the fact that you are moving, there is going to be inertia dude.
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#321 gamewatereddown
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] So guns weigh nothing?

next to nothing.

Seven pounds plus the fact that you are moving, there is going to be inertia dude.

so all guns magically weigh the same? LOL no killzone2 is fake though putting a gun in ur left hand and shooting is bullcrap because guns are meant to be shot right handed alot of guns you couldnt reach the cylinder eject for a revolver.
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#322 gamewatereddown
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you really do find some stupid people on the internet damn i should just stop wasting my time. cant explain something to a wall.
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] next to nothing.

Seven pounds plus the fact that you are moving, there is going to be inertia dude.

so all guns magically weigh the same? LOL no killzone2 is fake though putting a gun in ur left hand and shooting is bullcrap because guns are meant to be shot right handed alot of guns you couldnt reach the cylinder eject for a revolver.

I'm giving you an example of about what the Steyr AUG weights UNLOADED. It's closer to 8 pounds though.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Seven pounds plus the fact that you are moving, there is going to be inertia dude.

so all guns magically weigh the same? LOL no killzone2 is fake though putting a gun in ur left hand and shooting is bullcrap because guns are meant to be shot right handed alot of guns you couldnt reach the cylinder eject for a revolver.

I'm giving you an example of about what the Steyr AUG weights UNLOADED. It's closer to 8 pounds though.

WTF is that hunk of trash? double barrel shotgun >>>any gun slugs>>>50 caliber bullet lol
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Shotgun was peoples last resort weapon during vietnam. if their primary didnt do it shotgun will LOL.
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#327 Slambo86
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] so all guns magically weigh the same? LOL no killzone2 is fake though putting a gun in ur left hand and shooting is bullcrap because guns are meant to be shot right handed alot of guns you couldnt reach the cylinder eject for a revolver.

I'm giving you an example of about what the Steyr AUG weights UNLOADED. It's closer to 8 pounds though.

WTF is that hunk of trash? double barrel shotgun >>>any gun slugs>>>50 caliber bullet lol

just stop.
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#328 gamewatereddown
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] I'm giving you an example of about what the Steyr AUG weights UNLOADED. It's closer to 8 pounds though.

WTF is that hunk of trash? double barrel shotgun >>>any gun slugs>>>50 caliber bullet lol

just stop.

16 gauge slug>>> 50 caliber sniper rifle round. much more lead plus 2 at the sametime when i shoot it. yea just stop typing then i might, mr.zero creditability LOL.
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]i wish i was mod lol /thread if you dont own a gun or never shot one you have zero creditability, bcause you dont know what's realistic or unrealistic in a fps if you never shot a gun.

Try this for an analogy: I watch my mom bake a cake dozens of times. Though I've never done so myself, I'm well versed in the realities and logistics that go along with cake making. I can tell you everything down to how much sugar to add to the icing. I don't have to shoot a firearm to know what does and does not make sense. COD is not realistic. Even other posters who've used guns say so. You have provided weak evidence in proving your point. Again. Tell me how I'm not making any sense? Besides my supposed "credibility". What have I said that's not rational in this debate?
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#330 Slambo86
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] WTF is that hunk of trash? double barrel shotgun >>>any gun slugs>>>50 caliber bullet lol

just stop.

16 gauge slug>>> 50 caliber sniper rifle round. much more lead plus 2 at the sametime when i shoot it. yea just stop typing then i might, mr.zero creditability LOL.

i wasn't talking about that, but your general flawed opinion and obvious mindless bashing. Just for attention. You make it seem guns weigh as much as paper and we are able to instantly spin the gun in a direction with no resistance, opposite swaying or weight. you my friend have NEVER held a gun, maybe a water pistol.
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Seriously i shot down some tree's atleast 6 inches round maybe even bigger , took about 4-6 rounds of birdshot pull trigger sametime on the 16 gauge double barrel. didnt try buck or slug probley been better. shot me 50 caliber shooting down a tree oh yea, they suck LOL.
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#332 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] WTF is that hunk of trash? double barrel shotgun >>>any gun slugs>>>50 caliber bullet lol

just stop.

16 gauge slug>>> 50 caliber sniper rifle round. much more lead plus 2 at the sametime when i shoot it. yea just stop typing then i might, mr.zero creditability LOL.

That sniper rifle would put a hole in your chest before you could get close enough to be effective with the shotgun.
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#333 gamewatereddown
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="Slambo86"] just stop.

16 gauge slug>>> 50 caliber sniper rifle round. much more lead plus 2 at the sametime when i shoot it. yea just stop typing then i might, mr.zero creditability LOL.

i wasn't talking about that, but your general flawed opinion and obvious mindless bashing. Just for attention. You make it seem guns weigh as much as paper and we are able to instantly spin the gun in a direction with no resistance, opposite swaying or weight. you my friend have NEVER held a gun, maybe a water pistol.

never heard of clay pigeons? shoot a flying disk in midair? lol that takes quick react times unless ur using a shotgun. i can point my gun at target fast. you must be alittle kid or something think 8 lbs weigh alot?
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Seriously i shot down some tree's atleast 6 inches round maybe even bigger , took about 4-6 rounds of birdshot pull trigger sametime on the 16 gauge double barrel. didnt try buck or slug probley been better. shot me 50 caliber shooting down a tree oh yea, they suck LOL.gamewatereddown

You shot down a tree with a shotgun? Wow you must be strong!not

A gun has weight, believe it.

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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]Seriously i shot down some tree's atleast 6 inches round maybe even bigger , took about 4-6 rounds of birdshot pull trigger sametime on the 16 gauge double barrel. didnt try buck or slug probley been better. shot me 50 caliber shooting down a tree oh yea, they suck LOL.PSdual_wielder

You shot down a tree with a shotgun? Wow you must be strong!not

A gun has weight, believe it.

show me 50 caliber shooting down a tree oh wait, the bullet doesnt have enough lead to do any damage. even though 50 caliber shoots faster feet per second the bullet will do less damage because there's not as much lead, the 5- cals round just desintergrate, while the shotgun slug will flatten out like a pancake on impact putting a big hole in you lol.
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#338 WilliamRLBaker
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Whoever you are, I suggest you stop trying to lecture people on military procedure, because it's clear that you're an amateur.

A great deal of Killzone 2's qualities are realistic even if there are point of suspension and disbelief for the sake of its videogame status. You guys need to get over that.

Pariah-

LOL yes you were trained **WERE** in the reserve *you likely saw no action*so yeah no i don't believe you whatso ever.

your penalized in a war, yep you jump and shoot and get a shot off *hit a guy* your penalized in a war.

yes falling back and running away are the same thing, the only difference is that when you run away your running away from the battle, the other your running away to a different position, next your gonna tell me retreating isn't running away *laughs*

So you don't take cover to your back or side you just look at the wall? in every instance? even when your going to look around a corner? http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/rivergate2pi100605a2.jpg back side to the wall

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8ihRNFDo8Ck/R_ZkJ4dfiPI/AAAAAAAAAbA/0rsrNCJmExA/s400/taking+cover+in+iraq.jpg back to the wall
I guess all 6 of those soldiers got penalized during **combat**

the point of basic training is to bring a person up to physical fitness so they can....

1.cope with combat
2.use the required equipment
3.teach you

obviously never had been in combat or even training.

P.S: I've never been through training but nearly every thing i've said is just common sense, Killzone 2 isn't realistic nothing about it is realistic.

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#339 Slambo86
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]Seriously i shot down some tree's atleast 6 inches round maybe even bigger , took about 4-6 rounds of birdshot pull trigger sametime on the 16 gauge double barrel. didnt try buck or slug probley been better. shot me 50 caliber shooting down a tree oh yea, they suck LOL.gamewatereddown

You shot down a tree with a shotgun? Wow you must be strong!not

A gun has weight, believe it.

show me 50 caliber shooting down a tree oh wait, the bullet doesnt have enough lead to do any damage. even though 50 caliber shoots faster feet per second the bullet will do less damage because there's not as much lead, the 5- cals round just desintergrate, while the shotgun slug will flatten out like a pancake on impact putting a big hole in you lol.

aren't you the one that said COD4 is unrealistic and you don't like unrealistic games. And that you like fast paced games? your all OVER THE PLACE, man. You went against your original statements. Now your saying guns have no weight to them.. WOW.
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#340 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]Seriously i shot down some tree's atleast 6 inches round maybe even bigger , took about 4-6 rounds of birdshot pull trigger sametime on the 16 gauge double barrel. didnt try buck or slug probley been better. shot me 50 caliber shooting down a tree oh yea, they suck LOL.gamewatereddown

You shot down a tree with a shotgun? Wow you must be strong!not

A gun has weight, believe it.

show me 50 caliber shooting down a tree oh wait, the bullet doesnt have enough lead to do any damage. even though 50 caliber shoots faster feet per second the bullet will do less damage because there's not as much lead, the 5- cals round just desintergrate, while the shotgun slug will flatten out like a pancake on impact putting a big hole in you lol.

How does your throwaway of information have anything to do with the currrent argument?

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#341 gamewatereddown
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you dont seem to have comprehension skills. i never said call of duty 4 is unrealistic. i said i hate video games being realistic, it makes video games boring,. games should let you do stuff u cant do in real life.
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#342 WilliamRLBaker
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oh wow so you just ment the hit detection and enemy reactons to bullets hitting them?
I guess me pulling out my pistol and poping guy in the head and his helmet just flies off without any thing else happening is real realistic.
Or going up to a guy and knifing his legs and he dies instantly, Or guys surviving rocket launcher shots.

*shakes head* KZ2 is a mediocre shooter and its realistic in no way.

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#343 Pariah-
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because dude i know more about fps or guns you should listen to what i gotta say.gamewatereddown

You're starting to sound very disengenuous.

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#344 Episode_Eve
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oh wow so you just ment the hit detection and enemy reactons to bullets hitting them?
I guess me pulling out my pistol and poping guy in the head and his helmet just flies off without any thing else happening is real realistic.
Or going up to a guy and knifing his legs and he dies instantly, Or guys surviving rocket launcher shots.

*shakes head* KZ2 is a mediocre shooter and its realistic in no way.

WilliamRLBaker

The TC is really referring to the interpreted realism concerning animations and physics. I think there are many aspects of KZ2 that are realistic to a degree. And overall the game can easily be considered more realistic than a lot of shooters out there.

Of course reality is suspended in cases to create a fun and balanced game. No game is a true simulation of real-life.

--As for KZ2 being a "mediocre shooter". Well that's just like, your opinion man.

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#345 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

oh wow so you just ment the hit detection and enemy reactons to bullets hitting them?
I guess me pulling out my pistol and poping guy in the head and his helmet just flies off without any thing else happening is real realistic.
Or going up to a guy and knifing his legs and he dies instantly, Or guys surviving rocket launcher shots.

*shakes head* KZ2 is a mediocre shooter and its realistic in no way.

Episode_Eve

The TC is really referring to the interpreted realism concerning animations and physics. I think there are many aspects of KZ2 that are realistic to a degree. And overall the game can easily be considered more realistic than a lot of shooters out there.

Of course reality is suspended in cases to create a fun and balanced game. No game is a true simulation of real-life.

--As for KZ2 being a "mediocre shooter". Well that's just like, your opinion man.

Thats alot of peoples opinions, but oddly enough you try to make out that i didn't touch at all the point that killzone 2 is realistic in physics and the reactions of enemies upon being shot.
Im pretty sure and quote me on this that if i pull out a pistol in real life shoot a guy wearing a balistics helmet at close range its gonna snap his head back like a sling shot yet this doesn't happen in killzone 2.

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#346 Slambo86
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oh wow so you just ment the hit detection and enemy reactons to bullets hitting them?
I guess me pulling out my pistol and poping guy in the head and his helmet just flies off without any thing else happening is real realistic.
Or going up to a guy and knifing his legs and he dies instantly, Or guys surviving rocket launcher shots.

*shakes head* KZ2 is a mediocre shooter and its realistic in no way.

WilliamRLBaker

your addition of "mediocre shooter" tells me your intentions are solely to bash and fuel a fanboyism. Is this correct? it's realistic in no way? HAHA....just because you hate the game, doesn't mean its unrealistic.

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#347 Pariah-
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LOL yes you were trained **WERE** in the reserve *you likely saw no action*so yes i don't think we'll be following your advice or believeing you were any such thing,but lets see

I didn't say during war. But it is possible if a superior has a grudge against you.

In basic, if you are caught jumping and shooting, you'll get flagged.

yes falling back and running away are the same thing, the only difference is that when you run away your running away from the battle, the other your running away to a different position, next your gonna tell me retreating isn't running away *laughs*WilliamRLBaker

Running away means focusing on retreating and not shooting. You just sprint as fast you can in the other direction. Falling back entails that you keep firing as you retreat with your squad.

So you don't take cover to your back or side you just look at the wall? in every instance? even when your going to look around a corner? http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/rivergate2pi100605a2.jpg back side to the wall

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8ihRNFDo8Ck/R_ZkJ4dfiPI/AAAAAAAAAbA/0rsrNCJmExA/s400/taking+cover+in+iraq.jpg back to the wall
I guess all 6 of those soldiers got penalized during **combat**WilliamRLBaker

First of all, I didn't say "in every instance." You padded your reply with that in and effort to put words in my mouth.

Secondly, you're also the one who said "penalized **during combat**" Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

Finally, usually when you're in that position, you're maintaining cover without engaging the enemy. So it's an immaterial example of getting into cover and firing subsequently.

the point of basic training is to bring a person up to physical fitness so they can....

1.cope with combat
2.use the required equipment
3.teach you

obviously never had been in combat or even training.

P.S: I've never been through training but nearly every thing i've said is just common sense, Killzone 2 isn't realistic nothing about it is realistic.

WilliamRLBaker

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Basic is, more often than not, different for infantrymen than for soldiers of a different MOS.

Trying going to Fort Knox and Jackson and see how they train. There's going to be a dramatic difference since Knox is central for Ranger training whereas since Jackson is co-ed, the training isn't as extensive.

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#348 gamewatereddown
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[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"] because dude i know more about fps or guns you should listen to what i gotta say.Pariah-

You're starting to sound very disengenuous.

sorry i can outshoot anyone on this planet
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#349 gamewatereddown
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lol i would own anyone in real life gunfight.
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#350 Slambo86
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

oh wow so you just ment the hit detection and enemy reactons to bullets hitting them?
I guess me pulling out my pistol and poping guy in the head and his helmet just flies off without any thing else happening is real realistic.
Or going up to a guy and knifing his legs and he dies instantly, Or guys surviving rocket launcher shots.

*shakes head* KZ2 is a mediocre shooter and its realistic in no way.

WilliamRLBaker

The TC is really referring to the interpreted realism concerning animations and physics. I think there are many aspects of KZ2 that are realistic to a degree. And overall the game can easily be considered more realistic than a lot of shooters out there.

Of course reality is suspended in cases to create a fun and balanced game. No game is a true simulation of real-life.

--As for KZ2 being a "mediocre shooter". Well that's just like, your opinion man.

Thats alot of peoples opinions, but oddly enough you try to make out that i didn't touch at all the point that killzone 2 is realistic in physics and the reactions of enemies upon being shot.
Im pretty sure and quote me on this that if i pull out a pistol in real life shoot a guy wearing a balistics helmet at close range its gonna snap his head back like a sling shot yet this doesn't happen in killzone 2.

your inability to read makes me laugh. out of ALL i've said you got "reactions"? last i checked helmets are hard a bullet WOUND'T sling it back as the same fashion as hitting a helmet-less guy. You got to take into consideration the strong helmet and weight of it.