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The TC is really referring to the interpreted realism concerning animations and physics. I think there are many aspects of KZ2 that are realistic to a degree. And overall the game can easily be considered more realistic than a lot of shooters out there.[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]
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oh wow so you just ment the hit detection and enemy reactons to bullets hitting them?
I guess me pulling out my pistol and poping guy in the head and his helmet just flies off without any thing else happening is real realistic.
Or going up to a guy and knifing his legs and he dies instantly, Or guys surviving rocket launcher shots.*shakes head* KZ2 is a mediocre shooter and its realistic in no way.
WilliamRLBaker
Of course reality is suspended in cases to create a fun and balanced game. No game is a true simulation of real-life.
--As for KZ2 being a "mediocre shooter". Well that's just like, your opinion man.
Thats alot of peoples opinions, but oddly enough you try to make out that i didn't touch at all the point that killzone 2 is realistic in physics and the reactions of enemies upon being shot.
Im pretty sure and quote me on this that if i pull out a pistol in real life shoot a guy wearing a balistics helmet at close range its gonna snap his head back like a sling shot yet this doesn't happen in killzone 2.
I said there are aspects of the game that can easily be considered realistic. Not everything. I haven't read every post of yours in this thread, but I didn't see any acknowledgement of the sort in the post I quoted.
As for my supposed implications. Please get rid of them. I'm providing my take and facts on the topic in raw form. No passive aggressiveness or backhanded bull. On the other hand, throwing in "mediocre shooter" doesn't add to your argument. Though I respect that opinion.
now i know what you're doing....trying to up your post count.Slambo86I've been debating a fake boy. Lame, but good practice.
[QUOTE="Slambo86"]now i know what you're doing....trying to up your post count.Pariah-Won't get very far. I've already reported him. i seriously havent reported anyone im not gay like that.
nobody won vietnam usa just gave up. we didnt win, but they were fighting against people who had no training except probley shooting guns since a kid and they were getting their ass kicked by the vietnamesegamewatereddownThe US were outsmarted..and unprepared. Simple put. if you only knew what the US troops were told going into the battle..lol.
[QUOTE="Slambo86"]The US were outsmarted..and unprepared. Simple put. if you only knew what the US troops were told going into the battle..lol. usa are dumbasses should of just nuked the place. going on foot is stupid that's just policing not fighting a war. Just curious. What's your idea of war? Nuking? I think it's an outmoded practice that sets us back farther than it can take us forward.[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]nobody won vietnam usa just gave up. we didnt win, but they were fighting against people who had no training except probley shooting guns since a kid and they were getting their ass kicked by the vietnamesegamewatereddown
[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]i dont understand why usa just doesnt nuke everyone's sorry ass in iraq and afrganistan none of them are innocent people, they teach their kids from birth to hate western culture and train them as kid to be terrorist. they destroy whole place let a better race of people start over.Episode_EveSo many things wrong with that post... This kid's dad lets him hold a gun? :?
So many things wrong with that post... This kid's dad lets him hold a gun? :? Honestly, blame the US government and there gun laws. It's pathetic.[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]i dont understand why usa just doesnt nuke everyone's sorry ass in iraq and afrganistan none of them are innocent people, they teach their kids from birth to hate western culture and train them as kid to be terrorist. they destroy whole place let a better race of people start over.AAllxxjjnn
So many things wrong with that post... This kid's dad lets him hold a gun? :? LOL yea let's let some more people like you play grand theft auto and then get a real gun and think it's a game and start killing people like dumbasses have done which didnt grow up shooting guns.[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]i dont understand why usa just doesnt nuke everyone's sorry ass in iraq and afrganistan none of them are innocent people, they teach their kids from birth to hate western culture and train them as kid to be terrorist. they destroy whole place let a better race of people start over.AAllxxjjnn
if you actually look at muslims history you will see for thousands of years they all been terorist the religion is about killing anyone who doesnt convert to islam that's a fact.gamewatereddownThere are issues I have with religions and their foundations or teachings. But to think that the entire Muslim world believes that is outrageous.
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]This kid's dad lets him hold a gun? :? LOL yea let's let some more people like you play grand theft auto and then get a real gun and think it's a game and start killing people like dumbasses have done which didnt grow up shooting guns. So according to you: growing up shooting guns makes you an infinitely smarter and better human being?[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] So many things wrong with that post...gamewatereddown
LOL yea let's let some more people like you play grand theft auto and then get a real gun and think it's a game and start killing people like dumbasses have done which didnt grow up shooting guns. So according to you: growing up shooting guns makes you an infinitely smarter and better human being? yes actually yes read my above comment.[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] This kid's dad lets him hold a gun? :?
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]This kid's dad lets him hold a gun? :? LOL yea let's let some more people like you play grand theft auto and then get a real gun and think it's a game and start killing people like dumbasses have done which didnt grow up shooting guns. Actually i grew up going to the range...and your post makes zero sense. How does growing up shooting guns make you less likely to not being able to differentiate video games from real life?[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] So many things wrong with that post...gamewatereddown
[QUOTE="gamewatereddown"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] This kid's dad lets him hold a gun? :?LOL yea let's let some more people like you play grand theft auto and then get a real gun and think it's a game and start killing people like dumbasses have done which didnt grow up shooting guns. Actually i grew up going to the range...and your post makes zero sense. How does growing up shooting guns make you less likely to not being able to differentiate video games from real life? To be fair...In a way it can develop a strong sense of respect for the power of the weapon and the life of the target. Especially if you're a wise user. But you don't need to shoot guns to know the repercussions of the actions. Or to have any moral integrity.AAllxxjjnn
You don't need to grow up shooting guns for your parents to teach you that guns are dangerous. :|AAllxxjjnnyou need to know how to properly handle them regardless. tell me why this kid i know named nathan , his dad never had him teach him about guns or anything growing up, he finally got a gun and guess what? LOL the dumbass shot himself in the head AHHAHAHahahah
tell me why a kid who never shot a gun growing up or had someone teach him what is right or wrong , the dumbass finally got a gun and attempted copy grand theft auto. LOL i on the otherhand grew up playing some violent ass games way more than grand theft auto and i had guns readily avalible to me yet i still havent killed anyone lol.gamewatereddownmaybe because not everyone is like you? most of the violent school shootings are based around an individual being disturbed and suffering from some mental illness, games are used as a trigger to an already violent fueled person and give that individual ideas.
[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="gamewatereddown"]tell me why a kid who never shot a gun growing up or had someone teach him what is right or wrong , the dumbass finally got a gun and attempted copy grand theft auto. LOL i on the otherhand grew up playing some violent ass games way more than grand theft auto and i had guns readily avalible to me yet i still havent killed anyone lol.gamewatereddownYou act as if isolated incidents apply to everything and everyone. No. when did this occur when someone someone grew up around guns? How do you know of everyone's upbringing and influences. The world is bigger than your neighborhood, city, and country.
Well, I'm gonna retire fellas. It's been fun. Maybe because I've been half asleep heh. Let's see if this thread is still up when I awake. And if there are any good debates going on.
Well, I'm gonna retire fellas. It's been fun. Maybe because I've been half asleep heh. Let's see if this thread is still up when I awake. And if there any good debates going on.Episode_Evenight, man. Good posts. And it most likely will be. If i have something to do with it..;) Then again i might just give up, we know his intentions, anyways..gets old fast.
The game ISN'T realistic............ but that's a good thing. Games that go for too much realism FAIL..... I play games because they are fun and a great way to escape our somewhat boring reality.
1 big reason I don't like Crysis is because the game just feels hollow, weak story, weak characters, poorly designed aliens & the DEVS spent too much time trying to make the game realistic rather than making the game interesting & fun.
The game ISN'T realistic............ but that's a good thing. Games that go for too much realism FAIL..... I play games because they are fun and a great way to escape our somewhat boring reality.
1 big reason I don't like Crysis is because the game just feels hollow, weak story, weak characters, poorly designed aliens & the DEVS spent too much time trying to make the game realistic rather than making the game interesting & fun.
whatisazerg
I second this.
When I play a game, I want to be as far away from reality as I can; games that give too much realism clouds the fun factor which is just pathetic.
They weight would be realistic if every gun in the game didn't feel the same :| An SMG is not supposed to feel as heavy as an Assault Rifle.Just because you haters don't prefer realistic shooters, doesn't mean it isn't realistic. (thats gotta be the worst attempt at bashing)
1. The game has WEIGHT, guns sway and movement is heavier...NOT slow and broken, GG were going for realism..and they achieved this.
2. Games like HALO, CS, HL, L4D are NOT realistic. they are floaty unrealistic shooters mainly done for the fun factor. More people prefer games like those, because it gives you more control and instant reaction to your finger movements ,etc.THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND.
3. only reason people complain about controls is because its the first shooter to play with such realism and the fact people are used to quick and fast paced shooters.
4. If you have ever handled a gun/rifle (not that you should) Recoil is STRONG, the gun is slow and when you run or move with it, there is resistance and overall weight. K2 iS the only shooter i know that does it right.
(waits for haters to post smileys with there replies to make up for cheap comebacks and excuses)
Slambo86
but it is realistic...FFS. just not entirely in every aspect...this has already been explained...i'm talking about gameplay mechanics.The game ISN'T realistic............ but that's a good thing. Games that go for too much realism FAIL..... I play games because they are fun and a great way to escape our somewhat boring reality.
1 big reason I don't like Crysis is because the game just feels hollow, weak story, weak characters, poorly designed aliens & the DEVS spent too much time trying to make the game realistic rather than making the game interesting & fun.
whatisazerg
[QUOTE="Slambo86"]They weight would be realistic if every gun in the game didn't feel the same :| An SMG is not supposed to feel as heavy as an Assault Rifle. yes because heavy gear and side weapons don't add to it, right?Just because you haters don't prefer realistic shooters, doesn't mean it isn't realistic. (thats gotta be the worst attempt at bashing)
1. The game has WEIGHT, guns sway and movement is heavier...NOT slow and broken, GG were going for realism..and they achieved this.
2. Games like HALO, CS, HL, L4D are NOT realistic. they are floaty unrealistic shooters mainly done for the fun factor. More people prefer games like those, because it gives you more control and instant reaction to your finger movements ,etc.THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND.
3. only reason people complain about controls is because its the first shooter to play with such realism and the fact people are used to quick and fast paced shooters.
4. If you have ever handled a gun/rifle (not that you should) Recoil is STRONG, the gun is slow and when you run or move with it, there is resistance and overall weight. K2 iS the only shooter i know that does it right.
(waits for haters to post smileys with there replies to make up for cheap comebacks and excuses)
Juggernaut140
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