X1 questions, your thoughts regarding current policies & old policies

 So, I hear people want the old polices back on, I just have a couple questions to ask the Xbox players that both want and dont want the old policies that MS gave you.

1)   when the X1 was officially revealed and MS told the world of its policies, how did you all feel and react towards the old policies with its restrictions

2)   Did you pay the full price or pre-order the X1 when it has the old policies?

3)   For those who did pre-order/Payed for the X1 with the old policies, how did you react when MS did the 180 for it knowing youve now lost the 24hour clocking and family sharing?

4)   The X1 did the 180, and for those who didnt want the X1 with the old policy, did you decide to pay/pre-order the X1 with the new policy knowing you can play your game offline without any worry about clocking in and so on?

5)   Are there still Xbox fans who refuse to get the X1 even though it did the 180?

6)   What if MS decided to put the old policies back on thus giving you the 24hour clocking and so on. For those who did pre-ordered/payed for the X1 with its current policy that everyone fought for, how would you feel and react if MS did put if back on knowing that the console you just payed for is going to do the very thing you where fighting against.

7) Do you trust MS with what its done since it revealed the X1 back in May

I honest dont know if you can actually pay the full price for the X1 or PS4 at the moment, I havent pre-ordered my PS4, Im going to wait awhile, but since I saw the pentition to give back the old policies, I thought id ask Xbox players about it. I hope my questions where understandable, it took a little while trying to figure out away to not confuse anyone lol >.>

my official stance is that i don't really care either way. mountains were being made out of mole hills. that being said, the price is still off-putting.

Xbone sucks end of storysilversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Xbone sucks end of storyDouevenlift_bro

lets just say MS should been smart and came straight out about but, while doing so provided benefits for it.

BUT All the details leaked/came out in small batches of what was going down and nothing more

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Well, they did it. They reversed all of their policies on DRM for the Xbox One....I'm still not buying one and I will be happy to explain why.

You see, Microsoft lit the gaming community on fire with all of its intrusive DRM, terrible policies and "Deal with it" responses. They fully and proudly announced all of these horribly intrusive hoops for consumers to jump through. This was no slight overlook, no this was balls out screwing the consumer and they knew it.

So they announced all these wonderful things going all out and acting proud of it at their press conference. Well the internet erupted into a volcano of hatred for weeks on end constantly, everywhere and what did Microsoft do? They said "Deal with it" they explained why the "Concept of ownership is morphing" by telling us how we should share our products we buy and own with Microsoft and do what they say with them, they spent weeks with interviews and conferences explaining why all this stuff is really ok and its for our own good and told us why we should just roll over and accept it. Lets face it, this has been going on for months before the E3 event unveiled all of their plans.

So after all of that they decided to reverse the policies they were slapping us with just a few days ago and expecting to not only put up with them, but pay for them as well.

Will I buy an Xbox One now that Microsoft has changed the policies that I so justifiably hated? No, I will not. Not even if they reduce the price and throw in a free game I will not buy an Xbox One.

"OHHHH BUT WHY????!!!!! They change what you hated you should like them now!" No, I should not like them now. They flip flopped over night, that does not suddenly make everything ok.

Despite changing their policies Microsoft is still the exact same company it was 2 days ago which we all hated and despised. Sure they changed policies but its still the same company. Do you honestly think the entire company suddenly had a epiphany and decided now it loves the consumers? Has our best interest at heart? And wants to become all of our best friends and show us how loved and adored we are as their customers? Wrong! Its the same company. They did not change their minds over night, and there is nothing to say they wont change it right back again at the drop of a hat.

Microsoft did not make these changes for the good of the consumer. They did not change anything to please its customers. They did not change anything to bring more value to us. They did not change anything in order to make us feel valuable. And they did not change anything to say they are sorry. They did however change things for the sake of profit and nothing else. They changed not because they wanted to, but because they were forced to.

Well, they did it. They reversed all of their policies on DRM for the Xbox One....I'm still not buying one and I will be happy to explain why.

 

You see, Microsoft lit the gaming community on fire with all of its intrusive DRM, terrible policies and "Deal with it" responses. They fully and proudly announced all of these horribly intrusive hoops for consumers to jump through. This was no slight overlook, no this was balls out screwing the consumer and they knew it.

 

So they announced all these wonderful things going all out and acting proud of it at their press conference. Well the internet erupted into a volcano of hatred for weeks on end constantly, everywhere and what did Microsoft do? They said "Deal with it" they explained why the "Concept of ownership is morphing" by telling us how we should share our products we buy and own with Microsoft and do what they say with them, they spent weeks with interviews and conferences explaining why all this stuff is really ok and its for our own good and told us why we should just roll over and accept it. Lets face it, this has been going on for months before the E3 event unveiled all of their plans.

 

So after all of that they decided to reverse the policies they were slapping us with just a few days ago and expecting to not only put up with them, but pay for them as well.

 

Will I buy an Xbox One now that Microsoft has changed the policies that I so justifiably hated? No, I will not. Not even if they reduce the price and throw in a free game I will not buy an Xbox One.

 

"OHHHH BUT WHY????!!!!! They change what you hated you should like them now!" No, I should not like them now. They flip flopped over night, that does not suddenly make everything ok.

 

Despite changing their policies Microsoft is still the exact same company it was 2 days ago which we all hated and despised. Sure they changed policies but its still the same company. Do you honestly think the entire company suddenly had a epiphany and decided now it loves the consumers? Has our best interest at heart? And wants to become all of our best friends and show us how loved and adored we are as their customers? Wrong! Its the same company. They did not change their minds over night, and there is nothing to say they wont change it right back again at the drop of a hat.

 

Microsoft did not make these changes for the good of the consumer. They did not change anything to please its customers. They did not change anything to bring more value to us. They did not change anything in order to make us feel valuable. And they did not change anything to say they are sorry. They did however change things for the sake of profit and nothing else. They changed not because they wanted to, but because they were forced to.

Gargus

Shut your fat face!

Old DRM policies sucked monkey donuts. The new ones are pretty ok, but they should have not went on their conference and say all the DRM BS in the first place. It really hurt their brand and nearly alienated the whole fanbase. 

I won't purchase it in its first year, but I'll consider it when it gets more software or gets rid of that Kinect add-on. 

 So, I hear people want the old polices back on, I just have a couple questions to ask the Xbox players that both want and dont want the old policies that MS gave you.

1)   when the X1 was officially revealed and MS told the world of its policies, how did you all feel and react towards the old policies with its restrictions Didact: I hated the system. I felt betrayed by MS who sought to emphasize TV over gaming. And all the DRM bullsh!t? Fvcking that.

2)   Did you pay the full price or pre-order the X1 when it has the old policies? Didact: Nope. I still think the system is overpriced and I most certainly didn't when it had the DRM bullsh!t.

3)   For those who did pre-order/Payed for the X1 with the old policies, how did you react when MS did the 180 for it knowing youve now lost the 24hour clocking and family sharing? Didact: N/A

4)   The X1 did the 180, and for those who didnt want the X1 with the old policy, did you decide to pay/pre-order the X1 with the new policy knowing you can play your game offline without any worry about clocking in and so on? Didact: Nope. The system is still overpriced, the Kinect is mandatory, and I lack faith in the system's exclusives.

5)   Are there still Xbox fans who refuse to get the X1 even though it did the 180? Didact: Yes, for the reasons I just stated.

6)   What if MS decided to put the old policies back on thus giving you the 24hour clocking and so on. For those who did pre-ordered/payed for the X1 with its current policy that everyone fought for, how would you feel and react if MS did put if back on knowing that the console you just payed for is going to do the very thing you where fighting against. Didact: They won't. They were getting destroyed by the PS4 in pre-orders. The 180 gave them a fighting chance.p>

7) Do you trust MS with what its done since it revealed the X1 back in May Didact: I don't trust MS. Their policies are sketchy and their first party lineup for 360 has been disappointing.

I honest dont know if you can actually pay the full price for the X1 or PS4 at the moment, I havent pre-ordered my PS4, Im going to wait awhile, but since I saw the pentition to give back the old policies, I thought id ask Xbox players about it. I hope my questions where understandable, it took a little while trying to figure out away to not confuse anyone lol >.>

 So, I hear people want the old polices back on, I just have a couple questions to ask the Xbox players that both want and dont want the old policies that MS gave you.

 

1)   when the X1 was officially revealed and MS told the world of its policies, how did you all feel and react towards the old policies with its restrictions

 

2)   Did you pay the full price or pre-order the X1 when it has the old policies?

 

3)   For those who did pre-order/Payed for the X1 with the old policies, how did you react when MS did the 180 for it knowing youve now lost the 24hour clocking and family sharing?

 

4)   The X1 did the 180, and for those who didnt want the X1 with the old policy, did you decide to pay/pre-order the X1 with the new policy knowing you can play your game offline without any worry about clocking in and so on?

 

5)   Are there still Xbox fans who refuse to get the X1 even though it did the 180?

 

6)   What if MS decided to put the old policies back on thus giving you the 24hour clocking and so on. For those who did pre-ordered/payed for the X1 with its current policy that everyone fought for, how would you feel and react if MS did put if back on knowing that the console you just payed for is going to do the very thing you where fighting against.

 

7) Do you trust MS with what its done since it revealed the X1 back in May

 

I honest dont know if you can actually pay the full price for the X1 or PS4 at the moment, I havent pre-ordered my PS4, Im going to wait awhile, but since I saw the pentition to give back the old policies, I thought id ask Xbox players about it. I hope my questions where understandable, it took a little while trying to figure out away to not confuse anyone lol >.>

 

 Mickeyminime

Simple. Anything can be cancelled. Money talks. Further, whatever we Xbox gamers protested against because of X1 policies had little to do with Microsoft changing their policies. They were going to lose money and changed their attitude; anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. Afterall, just take a look at how Major Nelson didn't give a shit what Angry Joe said about always online. He didn't care. They WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED A THING ABOUT POLICY. Let Microsoft know how we feel by not giving them money. 

I actually cried after E3. 

couldn't quite make out your post, gargus. could you increase the font size a little?

I didn't have any interest in it before, and changing the policies didn't do anything for me either.

I didn't have any interest in it before, and changing the policies didn't do anything for me either.

Michael0134567

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

I didn't have any interest in it before, and changing the policies didn't do anything for me either.

XboxStache

Somebody's upset I have no interest in the One.

I don't even give a sh*t anymore.

[QUOTE="XboxStache"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

I didn't have any interest in it before, and changing the policies didn't do anything for me either.

Michael0134567

Somebody's upset I have no interest in the One.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="XboxStache"] Then fvck off already. Shouldn't you be Pming Carolyn Petit, weaboo? Rofl!!!XboxStache

Somebody's upset I have no interest in the One.

then maybe you're posting in the wrong forum.

[QUOTE="XboxStache"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

I didn't have any interest in it before, and changing the policies didn't do anything for me either.

Michael0134567

Somebody's upset I have no interest in the One.

Shut up and put Ellie in your sig already.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="XboxStache"] Then fvck off already. Shouldn't you be Pming Carolyn Petit, weaboo? Rofl!!!XboxStache

Somebody's upset I have no interest in the One.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="XboxStache"] Then fvck off already. Shouldn't you be Pming Carolyn Petit, weaboo? Rofl!!!GOGOGOGURT

Somebody's upset I have no interest in the One.

Shut up and put Ellie in your sig already.

Every time there's a debate on anti piracy, drm or how the used game market should be refined theres the F*&^in fools whos cry " leave them alone they weren't going to buy it anyways"... this pile of self entitled gaming crapsters helped spearhead this whole Micro 180 fiasco... They weren't going to buy the system anyways but feared an enviroment where some of the wrongs that are slowly eating the Gaming Industry from the inside out might have been taken head on.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody's upset I have no interest in the One.

Michael0134567

Shut up and put Ellie in your sig already.

Cuz you're Michael.

[QUOTE="XboxStache"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"] ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody's upset I have no interest in the One.

Michael0134567

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="XboxStache"] Don't fvcking laugh at me. I mean it. I'm tired of everyone badmouthing the X1.XboxStache

just go to the pgd forum if you feel it's being bashed too much here.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

Shut up and put Ellie in your sig already.

GOGOGOGURT

Cuz you're Michael.

Every time there's a debate on anti piracy, drm or how the used game market should be refined theres the F*&^in fools whos cry " leave them alone they weren't going to buy it anyways"... this pile of self entitled gaming crapsters helped spearhead this whole Micro 180 fiasco... They weren't going to buy the system anyways but feared an enviroment where some of the wrongs that are slowly eating the Gaming Industry from the inside out might have been taken head on.

 

redikan

Gonna need to prove your point, or STFU :)

1)   when the X1 was officially revealed and MS told the world of its policies, how did you all feel and react towards the old policies with its restrictions

I felt that it didn't give me enough options. Personally, I felt as though the console was handicapped for no good reason. For me, there was no value in the trade off.

2)   Did you pay the full price or pre-order the X1 when it has the old policies?

No

3)   For those who did pre-order/Payed for the X1 with the old policies, how did you react when MS did the 180 for it knowing youve now lost the 24hour clocking and family sharing?

N/A

4)   The X1 did the 180, and for those who didnt want the X1 with the old policy, did you decide to pay/pre-order the X1 with the new policy knowing you can play your game offline without any worry about clocking in and so on?

I was not going to preorder either console regardless of price/policies. As it stands now, the PS4 will be the console I purchase because it offers me a better value.

5)   Are there still Xbox fans who refuse to get the X1 even though it did the 180?

Personally, Microsoft isn't a company that I find ingretiates to me as a consumer very well. Despite that, if I thought Xbox One were a console that I found was of a better value than the PS4, I would buy it.

6)   What if MS decided to put the old policies back on thus giving you the 24hour clocking and so on. For those who did pre-ordered/payed for the X1 with its current policy that everyone fought for, how would you feel and react if MS did put if back on knowing that the console you just payed for is going to do the very thing you where fighting against.

N/A 

7) Do you trust MS with what its done since it revealed the X1 back in May

No

Mickeyminime

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] Why would I do that? :?Michael0134567

Cuz you're Michael.

If you're gonna put annoying girls in your sig, at least make it relevent to videogames, and make it hilarious.

[QUOTE="redikan"]

Every time there's a debate on anti piracy, drm or how the used game market should be refined theres the F*&^in fools whos cry " leave them alone they weren't going to buy it anyways"... this pile of self entitled gaming crapsters helped spearhead this whole Micro 180 fiasco... They weren't going to buy the system anyways but feared an enviroment where some of the wrongs that are slowly eating the Gaming Industry from the inside out might have been taken head on.

lundy86_4

Gonna need to prove your point, or STFU :)

Totally dude, Constant headlines about Studios closing their doors for good isn't cause for concern. F2P for the win.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

Cuz you're Michael.

GOGOGOGURT

If you're gonna put annoying girls in your sig, at least make it relevent to videogames, and make it hilarious.

Totally dude, Constant headlines about Studios closing their doors for good isn't cause for concern. F2P for the win.

redikan

Yep, they all closed for those reasons. Shut up, dipshit.

[QUOTE="redikan"]

Totally dude, Constant headlines about Studios closing their doors for good isn't cause for concern. F2P for the win.

lundy86_4

Yep, they all closed for those reasons. Shut up, dipshit.

Totally dude, I hear alot studios closed up because they made money producing games.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] Not sure what you're trying to get at, but okay.Michael0134567

If you're gonna put annoying girls in your sig, at least make it relevent to videogames, and make it hilarious.

What am I, a fancy dan?  Only tight asses ad block people.  I'm sure you'll get a good sig someday.  Just remember my reccomendation, it would be SO funny.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

If you're gonna put annoying girls in your sig, at least make it relevent to videogames, and make it hilarious.

GOGOGOGURT

What am I, a fancy dan?  Only tight asses ad block people.  I'm sure you'll get a good sig someday.  Just remember my reccomendation, it would be SO funny.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] Annoyed by my sig? Adblock it.Michael0134567

What am I, a fancy dan?  Only tight asses ad block people.  I'm sure you'll get a good sig someday.  Just remember my reccomendation, it would be SO funny.

At least you don't have lady boy prostitutes from Taiwan in your sig.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="XboxStache"] Stay out of Xbox threads and play your garbage Wii-U/PS3 combo. This was directed to XBOX GAMERS ONLY. This didn't include Carolyn Petit at all. ROFLLLLLL!!! XboxStache

You are a hero.  Give him what's what!

[QUOTE="Mickeyminime"]

1)   when the X1 was officially revealed and MS told the world of its policies, how did you all feel and react towards the old policies with its restrictions

I felt that it didn't give me enough options. Personally, I felt as though the console was handicapped for no good reason. For me, there was no value in the trade off.

2)   Did you pay the full price or pre-order the X1 when it has the old policies?

No

3)   For those who did pre-order/Payed for the X1 with the old policies, how did you react when MS did the 180 for it knowing youve now lost the 24hour clocking and family sharing?

N/A

4)   The X1 did the 180, and for those who didnt want the X1 with the old policy, did you decide to pay/pre-order the X1 with the new policy knowing you can play your game offline without any worry about clocking in and so on?

I was not going to preorder either console regardless of price/policies. As it stands now, the PS4 will be the console I purchase because it offers me a better value.

5)   Are there still Xbox fans who refuse to get the X1 even though it did the 180?

Personally, Microsoft isn't a company that I find ingretiates to me as a consumer very well. Despite that, if I thought Xbox One were a console that I found was of a better value than the PS4, I would buy it.

6)   What if MS decided to put the old policies back on thus giving you the 24hour clocking and so on. For those who did pre-ordered/payed for the X1 with its current policy that everyone fought for, how would you feel and react if MS did put if back on knowing that the console you just payed for is going to do the very thing you where fighting against.

N/A 

7) Do you trust MS with what its done since it revealed the X1 back in May

No

richsena