X360 Games Are In Such Low Demand, Most Retailers Don't Carry Them (Japan)

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#1 KeyWii
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From my Inside Source, Philosoma.

 

"Whats up Keywii!

Yeah I live and teach in Japan, but right now I'm on Haruyasumi (spring break but kind of bigger like Xmas break in the USA) and I'm back in Cleveland for a while! And actually, the PS3 is slightly cheaper in Japan and they have lots of deals where you can turn in your old PS2 and gear for up to $200 off. PS3 is pretty huge in Japan, but Sony's target audience are guys around like 16-30 in age and to purchase a PS3 you must have a credit or bank debit card. It's labeled as the "adult's game system" here. 360 is sadly a joke, not because it's an American product or anything, it's because the Japanese just don't like games like FPS too much and more often than not the games are only sold per order - you can't just walk into Tsutaya and just buy 360 games because they are in such low demand.

I'll be back in Japan soon and if you want some pictures or some news about something just lemme know, maybe I can dig up something cool ^^

Philosoma"

 

I thought I'd share this with you all since it's a unique perspective. Thanks to Philosoma for the reporting.

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#2 MrKittle
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Figures, they dont like shooters and stuff like that.
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#3 karicha9
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Yeah, we all knew this.

a long time ago.

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#4 DoctorBunny
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Doesn't matter as much as japan is no longer the #1 region for video games
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#5 karicha9
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I also find it curious that your "friend" said nothing regarding the Wii.
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#6 Infinatey
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who's philosama?

And now....I doubt even lost odyssey, infinite undiscovery, eternal sonata, and cry on can save the 360 from pure mediocre sales in japan.

Well......maybe if mistwalker games have bad sales, they'll jump in the bed with sony!

Cry on/eternal sonata aren't being published by microsoft like the other games.....here's hoping for PS3 ports.

And if you ask me....you need to have good sales in all 3 regions to be able to take the world wide title of "winner of console war". The PS3/wii really don't offset people anywhere....where as the 360 is an icon of evil in japan. You can't just have good sales in 2 regions, and poor sales in another.

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#7 KeyWii
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Doesn't matter as much as japan is no longer the #1 region for video gamesDoctorBunny

Japan is one of the most important regions, if by large part your games aren't being sold there, you have a problem. 

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#8 lawlessx
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well its a good thing the 360 isnt only about FPS games like the xbox was :wink:
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#9 JiveT
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You shared us with this because its anti-360 pro-PS3 agitprop. Notice how there is no unsightly info about Wii domination.
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#10 KeyWii
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I also find it curious that your "friend" said nothing regarding the Wii.karicha9

Everyone knows the Wii is doing well in Japan, I asked him about the PS3. 

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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Doesn't matter as much as japan is no longer the #1 region for video gamesKeyWii

Japan is one of the most important regions, if by large part your games aren't being sold there, you have a problem.

Not really.

The East and West have dramatically different cultures. Xenophobia is a far more common phenomenoa in Japan than it is in the states. A developer need not make games around the expectations of Japanese consumers. Without major modifications, American games will simply not do as well in Japan.

I could really care less about the market in Japan -- of course it will be radically different than the market in the states.

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#12 sonofHWBB_basic
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And the point of this thread is????????????????
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In other news, the Bush administration announced that they had found WMDs in Iraq,

Citing the credible international source named "Philosama"

:|

 

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#14 obi_kenobi24
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You wanna know also what some retailers over there do with games?????

 

They will separate western games/products from Japanese games/products futher creating the gap that western devs have to get across to reach that market. Ubisoft has been fighting Japanese retailers for years on this. If America or any other region did this there would be an uproar. 

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[QUOTE="karicha9"]I also find it curious that your "friend" said nothing regarding the Wii.KeyWii

Everyone knows the Wii is doing well in Japan, I asked him about the PS3.

So why would he respond about the 360 doing bad?  Again, fishy.
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#16 billing
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"It is agenst the law in Japan to carry anything American related.

Yeah, they hate us this much."

-From my inside informant located in Japan

 

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#17 CelineDion
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Not really.

The East and West have dramatically different cultures.  Xenophobia is a far more common phenomenoa in Japan than it is in the states.  A developer need not make games around the expectations of Japanese consumers.  Without major modifications, American games will simply not do as well in Japan. 

I could really care less about the market in Japanese -- of course it will be radically different than the market in the states.   

FoamingPanda

*Dies laughing*

I suppose you have a wealth of empirical evidence to support that nonsense statement.

 

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#18 KeyWii
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well its a good thing the 360 isnt only about FPS games like the xbox was :wink:lawlessx

They've done better. But they're still not diverse enough. Mass Effect is an RPG with shooter gameplay. They still have too many shooters, Japan knows it and so does everyone else who is turned off by globs and globs of FPS. 

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#19 WilliamRLBaker
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we'll my friend in japan says wii is out selling ps3 3:1, and its games are outselling 5:1...see i can make up stuff to, 360 might not be selling alot in japan, but it is selling 2k-3k each weekly report and retailers ARE carrying games...
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#20 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]I also find it curious that your "friend" said nothing regarding the Wii.karicha9

Everyone knows the Wii is doing well in Japan, I asked him about the PS3.

So why would he respond about the 360 doing bad? Again, fishy.

I don't know why he told me about the X360, probably because it was a lot more interesting than hearing about the Wii. 

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#21 karicha9
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[QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="KeyWii"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]I also find it curious that your "friend" said nothing regarding the Wii.KeyWii

Everyone knows the Wii is doing well in Japan, I asked him about the PS3.

So why would he respond about the 360 doing bad? Again, fishy.

I don't know why he told me about the X360, probably because it was a lot more interesting than hearing about the Wii.

Or it just curiously fits in with your posting habits?

Eh KeyWii, or should I say, philosoma? 

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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Doesn't matter as much as japan is no longer the #1 region for video gamesKeyWii

Japan is one of the most important regions, if by large part your games aren't being sold there, you have a problem.

See, balance is created since the 360 is doing amazing in North America. Neither doing great in europe.

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#23 KeyWii
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Too those of you who don't believe me, here's his profile.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Philosoma/
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#24 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Doesn't matter as much as japan is no longer the #1 region for video gamesdumfart66

Japan is one of the most important regions, if by large part your games aren't being sold there, you have a problem.

See, balance is created since the 360 is doing amazing in North America. Neither doing great in europe.

X360 isn't doing "amazing" in North America, it's holding its own. Nothing more, nothing less. 

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#25 CelineDion
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Too those of you who don't believe me, here's his profile.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Philosoma/KeyWii

Wow, now I'm convinced he's really who you say he is.  Because all of us have completely accurate GS profiles.

 

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#26 TheCrazed420
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With KeyWii's track record of accurate, unbiased reporting, I think Philosama should become the official Japanese contact for SW. Up here in Canada, I know a great guy called BillSaddam who could do a great job on the 360 side of things...
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In other news, the Bush administration announced that they had found WMDs in Iraq,

Citing the credible international source named "Philosama"

:|

 

CelineDion
:lol:
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#28 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

Too those of you who don't believe me, here's his profile.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Philosoma/CelineDion

Wow, now I'm convinced he's really who you say he is. Because all of us have completely accurate GS profiles.

 

You don't believe him? Fine, the ownage is on you when he posts more insider information from Japan. 

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#29 killab2oo5
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I wouldnt doubt it but not many people would believe anything you say about the 360 on here,your not a very credible/reliable person.:lol:I know I wouldnt never believe a letter from your "friend".;)Not "flaming" or "bashing" you,just speaking the obvious.

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#30 Ninja-Vox
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Is this "news"? :|
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#31 sonofHWBB_basic
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Too those of you who don't believe me, here's his profile.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Philosoma/KeyWii

My god, he rated "Charlie's Angels" for Gamecube a 10?!  Now I know we can all trust him and bow down before him.  PHILOSOMA, PHILOSOMA, PHILOSOMA!

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#32 CelineDion
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You don't believe him? Fine, the ownage is on you when he posts more insider information from Japan. 

KeyWii

I'm Celine Dion.

I can't be owned.

;)

 

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#33 billing
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They got 34 year olds in Japan that still plays Pokemon.

You really care what these people think?

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[QUOTE="CelineDion"][QUOTE="KeyWii"]

Too those of you who don't believe me, here's his profile.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Philosoma/KeyWii

Wow, now I'm convinced he's really who you say he is. Because all of us have completely accurate GS profiles.

 

You don't believe him? Fine, the ownage is on you when he posts more insider information from Japan.

 

I know a guy named ZOMGIAMJAPANESE who says that in japan the 360 is selling so well, and that a chinpokemon game is being released for the ps3 to challenge it. 

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#35 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="dumfart66"][QUOTE="KeyWii"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Doesn't matter as much as japan is no longer the #1 region for video gamesKeyWii

Japan is one of the most important regions, if by large part your games aren't being sold there, you have a problem.

See, balance is created since the 360 is doing amazing in North America. Neither doing great in europe.

X360 isn't doing "amazing" in North America, it's holding its own. Nothing more, nothing less. 

>.> The attachement rates of games are VERY high,I think higher than any console to date...dont take my word though.:)Thats all the devs worry about,is how their games sells,and the games are selling amazingly well on the 360,same with attachment.;)I know for a fact the 360 has the highest accessorie attachment rate in gaming history.:roll:Please speak what you know.
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#36 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

Too those of you who don't believe me, here's his profile.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Philosoma/sonofHWBB_basic

My god, he rated "Charlie's Angels" for Gamecube a 10?!  Now I know we can all trust him and bow down before him.  PHILOSOMA, PHILOSOMA, PHILOSOMA!

 And he's friends with KeyWii. Next thing you'll tell me is Superman 64 was his all time favorite game...

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#37 Ninja-Vox
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Y'know, simply being in a country doesn't mean you have "insider information". It's not like this guy works for a videogames company, in fact his profile which you kindly linked to shows that he has absolutely no links to the gaming industry whatsoever.

Bad thread. Even by the standards we're used to. 

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#38 themyth01
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 360 isn't doing good in Japan but PS3 isn't doing great either, I guess it's thanks to its own price tag and to the Wii.
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

Too those of you who don't believe me, here's his profile.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Philosoma/sonofHWBB_basic

My god, he rated "Charlie's Angels" for Gamecube a 10?! Now I know we can all trust him and bow down before him. PHILOSOMA, PHILOSOMA, PHILOSOMA!

"I try to play every game even if they totally suck and become some kind of MST3K session for me and my buds; Two Crude Dudes comes to mind lol."

From his profile. MST3k = Mystery Science Theater 3000, if you know what that show is, you'll understand why. 

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#40 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="CelineDion"][QUOTE="KeyWii"]

Too those of you who don't believe me, here's his profile.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Philosoma/dumfart66

Wow, now I'm convinced he's really who you say he is. Because all of us have completely accurate GS profiles.

 

You don't believe him? Fine, the ownage is on you when he posts more insider information from Japan.

 

I know a guy named ZOMGIAMJAPANESE who says that in japan the 360 is selling so well, and that a chinpokemon game is being released for the ps3 to challenge it.

The joke is on you when Philosama provides more juicy info on gaming from Japan.

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"I try to play every game even if they totally suck and become some kind of MST3K session for me and my buds; Two Crude Dudes comes to mind lol."

From his profile. MST3k = Mystery Science Theater 3000, if you know what that show is, you'll understand why. 

KeyWii

You have an awfully intimate knowledge of Philosoma's thought processes.

Are you lovers?

 

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From my Inside Source, Philosoma.

 

"Whats up Keywii!

Yeah I live and teach in Japan, but right now I'm on Haruyasumi (spring break but kind of bigger like Xmas break in the USA) and I'm back in Cleveland for a while! And actually, the PS3 is slightly cheaper in Japan and they have lots of deals where you can turn in your old PS2 and gear for up to $200 off. PS3 is pretty huge in Japan, but Sony's target audience are guys around like 16-30 in age and to purchase a PS3 you must have a credit or bank debit card. It's labeled as the "adult's game system" here. 360 is sadly a joke, not because it's an American product or anything, it's because the Japanese just don't like games like FPS too much and more often than not the games are only sold per order - you can't just walk into Tsutaya and just buy 360 games because they are in such low demand.

I'll be back in Japan soon and if you want some pictures or some news about something just lemme know, maybe I can dig up something cool ^^

Philosoma"

 

I thought I'd share this with you all since it's a unique perspective. Thanks to Philosoma for the reporting.

KeyWii

while i don't totally disagree with your opinion, KeyWii = Philosoma

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#43 KeyWii
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Y'know, simply being in a country doesn't mean you have "insider information". It's not like this guy works for a videogames company, in fact his profile which you kindly linked to shows that he has absolutely no links to the gaming industry whatsoever.

Bad thread. Even by the standards we're used to.

Ninja-Vox

I'm sorry? Name any other person on System Wars who is fluent in Japanese and English and lives in Japan regularly?

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 What a joke of a thread, how old is this guy like 12 years old.
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

"I try to play every game even if they totally suck and become some kind of MST3K session for me and my buds; Two Crude Dudes comes to mind lol."

From his profile. MST3k = Mystery Science Theater 3000, if you know what that show is, you'll understand why. 

CelineDion

You have an awfully intimate knowledge of Philosoma's thought processes.

Are you lovers?

 

lol,

This KeyWii sure jocks him like a boytoy.

Makes you wonder.

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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

"I try to play every game even if they totally suck and become some kind of MST3K session for me and my buds; Two Crude Dudes comes to mind lol."

From his profile. MST3k = Mystery Science Theater 3000, if you know what that show is, you'll understand why. 

CelineDion

You have an awfully intimate knowledge of Philosoma's thought processes.

Are you lovers?

 

 :lol: or maybe alternate personalities. We are KeyWii

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#47 subrosian
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Doesn't matter as much as japan is no longer the #1 region for video gamesKeyWii

Japan is one of the most important regions, if by large part your games aren't being sold there, you have a problem.

All videogame sales have been declining in Japan. The most important region is North America, followed by Europe. Japan, frankly, no longer matters - and if your "friend" and his "story" completely ignore how the Wii is trashing the PS3 in Japan, then I don't trust it. 

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#48 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="CelineDion"][QUOTE="KeyWii"]

"I try to play every game even if they totally suck and become some kind of MST3K session for me and my buds; Two Crude Dudes comes to mind lol."

From his profile. MST3k = Mystery Science Theater 3000, if you know what that show is, you'll understand why.

DXGreat1_HGL

You have an awfully intimate knowledge of Philosoma's thought processes.

Are you lovers?

 

:lol: or maybe alternate personalities. We are KeyWii

I assure you we are not the same persons. 

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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Doesn't matter as much as japan is no longer the #1 region for video gamessubrosian

Japan is one of the most important regions, if by large part your games aren't being sold there, you have a problem.

All videogame sales have been declining in Japan. The most important region is North America, followed by Europe. Japan, frankly, no longer matters - and if your "friend" and his "story" completely ignore how the Wii is trashing the PS3 in Japan, then I don't trust it. 

 Sad part was, prior to the PS3  Euro launch, suddenly Europe was important and Japan wasn't. Now Japan seems to be important again...

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#50 lawlessx
Member since 2004 • 48753 Posts

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]well its a good thing the 360 isnt only about FPS games like the xbox was :wink:KeyWii

They've done better. But they're still not diverse enough. Mass Effect is an RPG with shooter gameplay. They still have too many shooters, Japan knows it and so does everyone else who is turned off by globs and globs of FPS.

 

i was refering to the  japanse titles coming out.