[QUOTE="De_Bears"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

You know being a person who has never really been a huge GTA fan. A guy who has never owned nor beaten one GTA game I find the GTA fanbase to be, how should I say....Illogical.

This is simple. This is like 1+1 simple.

If both games on both systems are the same thing as claimed by Rockstar we'll just say that GTA4 = X

Both games are the same but one gets additional Exclusive DLC which we'll say Exlusive DLC = 1

So using my common logic and putting ones controller preference or wanting to play with a black system over a white system, vice versa or any other silly pet peeve that they might have that has nothing to do with the content on the disc you can conclude that.

X + 1 > X

So it boggles my mind and clearly I am not understanding this whole concept. I mean here I am thinking that people who like GTA will buy GTA4. So why the hell would any informed person choose a version that doesn't offer as much content as another version :question:

It doesn't make sense. Well at least I didn't until the comments such as.....

Because 360 RROD's after 30 minutesBecause 360 will break downBecause GTA is a Playstation gameBecause more people played GTA on Playstation ectEssentially these people are attacking the system. A basic cop out instead of praising the game.

Simply put if one was to be a GTA fan and had the option to buy either version of the game based off of what we know now right now. If they were to choose the version without the exclusive content I'd really have to question them on what they are doing.

To put it simple why shouldn't one think that any GTA fan who dismisses the inclusion of the "exclusive DLC" a fanboy of one console or a hater of another?

This is the most confused I've ever seen a games fanbase about a game they want. There is just too much denial about.

Blackbond

Don't forget that most of you guys think your getting DLC for free. If you can't finish the game without DLC I can seee your point. But..... the right to BUY$ new levels after a 20+ hour experience seems a little cheesy.

Don't forget that the other vresion has NO OPTION to get the DLC. You realize you aren't getting GTA4 for free correct? Regardless of which the one version has the choice while the other version does not. If one should want additional content then he can. If one on the other platform should want additional content then what is he left with?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

• Because 360 will break down

jetpropilot

might

not will

it's called risk tolerance

different people have different levels

i'm not a hardcore gta fan so the DLC means nothing to me anyway (not that I'd be willing to pay for it anyway) so I'd obviously opt for it on the system that is less likely to break down and more likely to let me enjoy the game over a long period of time (i must've played vice city for over a year)

Its comments like these that make me say GTA fans are of the most confusing game fans on this site at this time.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I get it for the console with rumble in the controllers and you don't have to import anything, everyone have headsets so you could talk to each other about how the game is so awesome, achievements so everyone will believe you when they see that you got all the secret packages and did all the side missions and beat up 1000 hookers for example, have custom sound tracks just incase you want less talk more rock, and also for the lead platform that will get exclusive episodic content.

black_awpN1

Link to Rockstar stating 360 was lead platform. Otherwise you dont know that for fact.

Its a fact that all GTA4 game footage was using the 360 hardware. Its a fact the reason GTA4 got delayed because of the PS3. Its a fact that Peter Moore showed off a GTA4 tattoo on his arm.

That just proves:

1. They had two seperate teams working on the game side by side and that the 360 team was finishing faster.

2. Theres no fact that it was the only reason. The only news story I saw stating the PS3 was THE reason was some dumb Analysts take on it.

3. Peter Moore is an Idiot.

Until I get a quote from R* stating the 360 as the lead SKU, all your doing is speculating.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=24632

A blog by the name of TechSpy decided to try and weight up whether the Xbox 360 or the PS3 version of GTA IV will be superior. They indicate that as of right now, evidence is piling up that the game will be better on the Xbox 360. They claim its the lead platform, and the only complete version with exclusive story content thats developed by a team which is already super familiar with the hardware of the Xbox 360.

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I get it for the console with rumble in the controllers and you don't have to import anything, everyone have headsets so you could talk to each other about how the game is so awesome, achievements so everyone will believe you when they see that you got all the secret packages and did all the side missions and beat up 1000 hookers for example, have custom sound tracks just incase you want less talk more rock, and also for the lead platform that will get exclusive episodic content.

ReverseCycology

Link to Rockstar stating 360 was lead platform. Otherwise you dont know that for fact.

Its a fact that all GTA4 game footage was using the 360 hardware. Its a fact the reason GTA4 got delayed because of the PS3. Its a fact that Peter Moore showed off a GTA4 tattoo on his arm.

That just proves:

1. They had two seperate teams working on the game side by side and that the 360 team was finishing faster.

2. Theres no fact that it was the only reason. The only news story I saw stating the PS3 was THE reason was some dumb Analysts take on it.

3. Peter Moore is an Idiot.

Until I get a quote from R* stating the 360 as the lead SKU, all your doing is speculating.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=24632

A blog by the name of TechSpy decided to try and weight up whether the Xbox 360 or the PS3 version of GTA IV will be superior. They indicate that as of right now, evidence is piling up that the game will be better on the Xbox 360. They claim its the lead platform, and the only complete version with exclusive story content thats developed by a team which is already super familiar with the hardware of the Xbox 360.

thats not a quote from R* now is it?

[QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

• Because 360 will break down

Blackbond

might

not will

it's called risk tolerance

different people have different levels

i'm not a hardcore gta fan so the DLC means nothing to me anyway (not that I'd be willing to pay for it anyway) so I'd obviously opt for it on the system that is less likely to break down and more likely to let me enjoy the game over a long period of time (i must've played vice city for over a year)

Its comments like these that make me say GTA fans are of the most confusing game fans on this site at this time.

you're confusing the two......

just because i enjoyed the game for well over a year doesn't mean i'm a hardcore fan

doesn't mean i went back and purchased gta3 (never played)

doesn't mean I went back to enjoy the "old clas sics" (gta2, the original gta)

fact is, if i want to enjoy the game for a long period of time, the ps3 is my best bet

um if you think r* wont be making dlc for both versions you must smoke something awful....sure the 360 will get exclusive content (maybe even only timed exclusive) but that doesnt mean that the ps3 version and the 360 version wont get dlc beyond thatshadowstryker1x

Are you really going to debate going on a wimb with a -MAYBE-???

Sure R* can work on additional DLC for both versions. But like I said only one version is getting -EXCLUSIVE DLC-

Basically you said nothing. The versions are equal barring one getting addtional exclusive content. If both versions and up getting multiplat DLC at some point that just makes it a standstill between both versions.

The facts are that GTA tapped into the casual market a little and utilized negative media and a great game to become an icon.

MS seems to think that the success or death of their system hinges on the availability of this title on their system. MS thinks that GTA4 multiplat will even the playing field among potential casual GTA4 buyers. They've got their hardcore achievement junkies locked down but there are some problems with their logic; assuming the Arcade is the casual machine they are pressing.

- Arcade has no HDD hence no DLC

- Casuals belong to Ninty (as of now)

- GTA series sells great on PS brand but thats not the only game.

- The massive pool of fence sitting PS2 owners that have not 'jumped in' hi def gaming are anyones customer; is false.

- Price, reliability and features will eventually end all arguements.

As soon as a rep. explains to a potential customer: in order to take advantage of any DLC, HD ability, and online play that the arcade becomes more expensive than a 40gb PS3. Mark this a win for PS3.

[QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

• Because 360 will break down

Blackbond

might

not will

it's called risk tolerance

different people have different levels

i'm not a hardcore gta fan so the DLC means nothing to me anyway (not that I'd be willing to pay for it anyway) so I'd obviously opt for it on the system that is less likely to break down and more likely to let me enjoy the game over a long period of time (i must've played vice city for over a year)

Its comments like these that make me say GTA fans are of the most confusing game fans on this site at this time.

Oh, quit it. It doesn't mean you're hardcore for playing your favorite game. I still play Mario 3 on occasion. Doesn't mean I'm a Mario hardcore fan.

2. Theres no fact that it was the only reason. The only news story I saw stating the PS3 was THE reason was some dumb Analysts take on it.

black_awpN1

[QUOTE="shadowstryker1x"]
um if you think r* wont be making dlc for both versions you must smoke something awful....sure the 360 will get exclusive content (maybe even only timed exclusive) but that doesnt mean that the ps3 version and the 360 version wont get dlc beyond thatBlackbond

Are you really going to debate going on a wimb with a -MAYBE- ???

Sure R* can work on additional DLC for both versions. But like I said only one version is getting -EXCLUSIVE DLC-

Basically you said nothing. The versions are equal barring one getting addtional exclusive content. If both versions and up getting multiplat DLC at some point that just makes it a standstill between both versions.

basically youve said nothing the entire time you been in this thread....and your speculating as well with the hand-me-down source you linked to

I'd get it for the console with standard headsets for everyone. So in the GTA4 multiplayer everyone will have headsets and know what each one will be doing and what part of the city they are, instead of having the risk that not everyone have blue tooth headsets and they're just running around and not playing the game properly.

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

2. Theres no fact that it was the only reason. The only news story I saw stating the PS3 was THE reason was some dumb Analysts take on it.

-wii60-

Linked.

I'd get it for the console with standard headsets for everyone. So in the GTA4 multiplayer everyone will have headsets and know what each one will be doing and what part of the city they are, instead of having the risk that not everyone have blue tooth headsets and they're just running around and not playing the game properly.

ReverseCycology

granted your never guerenteed that everyone on psn has a headset for online...but you can buy a cheap usb headset and use it just fine...plus most games have everyone with headsets sept maybe cod4 where roughly between half and almost everyone has a headset

[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

2. Theres no fact that it was the only reason. The only news story I saw stating the PS3 was THE reason was some dumb Analysts take on it.

ReverseCycology

Linked.

even i knew that the ps3 was the reason they delayed the game...however atleast they stated that both version are running rqual at this point

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="shadowstryker1x"]
um if you think r* wont be making dlc for both versions you must smoke something awful....sure the 360 will get exclusive content (maybe even only timed exclusive) but that doesnt mean that the ps3 version and the 360 version wont get dlc beyond thatshadowstryker1x

Are you really going to debate going on a wimb with a -MAYBE- ???

Sure R* can work on additional DLC for both versions. But like I said only one version is getting -EXCLUSIVE DLC-

Basically you said nothing. The versions are equal barring one getting addtional exclusive content. If both versions and up getting multiplat DLC at some point that just makes it a standstill between both versions.

basically youve said nothing the entire time you been in this thread....and your speculating as well with the hand-me-down source you linked to

What am I speculating about? Do you not know the definition of -Exclsuvie-

As in on one platform and not another? How can I speculate it when its fact. Its exclusive. Its going to be on one platform and not another as stated.

I don't believe I posted any links so what are you talking about my hand me down source?

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I get it for the console with rumble in the controllers and you don't have to import anything, everyone have headsets so you could talk to each other about how the game is so awesome, achievements so everyone will believe you when they see that you got all the secret packages and did all the side missions and beat up 1000 hookers for example, have custom sound tracks just incase you want less talk more rock, and also for the lead platform that will get exclusive episodic content.

ReverseCycology

Link to Rockstar stating 360 was lead platform. Otherwise you dont know that for fact.

Its a fact that all GTA4 game footage was using the 360 hardware. Its a fact the reason GTA4 got delayed because of the PS3. Its a fact that Peter Moore showed off a GTA4 tattoo on his arm.

That just proves:

1. They had two seperate teams working on the game side by side and that the 360 team was finishing faster.

2. Theres no fact that it was the only reason. The only news story I saw stating the PS3 was THE reason was some dumb Analysts take on it.

3. Peter Moore is an Idiot.

Until I get a quote from R* stating the 360 as the lead SKU, all your doing is speculating.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=24632

A blog by the name of TechSpy decided to try and weight up whether the Xbox 360 or the PS3 version of GTA IV will be superior. They indicate that as of right now, evidence is piling up that the game will be better on the Xbox 360. They claim its the lead platform, and the only complete version with exclusive story content thats developed by a team which is already super familiar with the hardware of the Xbox 360.

I asked for a quote from Rockstar, not some websites Opinon.

[QUOTE="shadowstryker1x"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="shadowstryker1x"]
um if you think r* wont be making dlc for both versions you must smoke something awful....sure the 360 will get exclusive content (maybe even only timed exclusive) but that doesnt mean that the ps3 version and the 360 version wont get dlc beyond thatBlackbond

Are you really going to debate going on a wimb with a -MAYBE- ???

Sure R* can work on additional DLC for both versions. But like I said only one version is getting -EXCLUSIVE DLC-

Basically you said nothing. The versions are equal barring one getting addtional exclusive content. If both versions and up getting multiplat DLC at some point that just makes it a standstill between both versions.

basically youve said nothing the entire time you been in this thread....and your speculating as well with the hand-me-down source you linked to

What am I speculating about? Do you not know the definition of -Exclsuvie-

As in on one platform and not another? How can I speculate it when its fact. Its exclusive. Its going to be on one platform and not another as stated.

I don't believe I posted any links so what are you talking about my hand me down source?

im refering to the link you posted about the 360 being the lead platform....i know the 360 will have exclusive content that is a given for everyone....i guess i didnt clearify what i was saying well enough

Since people love posting random sites as fact.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/12-02-2008-7485.html

According to Kotaku, who recently spent some time with GTA4, Rockstar views the downloadable content coming to Xbox 360 as "an experiment".

Although not directly stating as much, Kotaku notes that Rockstar "doesn't seem sure that there are enough users with access to online content on the 360 to make it worthwhile for them to continue pumping out episodes".

If viewed as an experiment it's not unreasonable to assume that if the DLC is successful it could lead to further content being released at a later date - presumably on both Xbox 360 and PS3.

Since people love posting random sites as fact.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/12-02-2008-7485.html

According to Kotaku, who recently spent some time with GTA4, Rockstar views the downloadable content coming to Xbox 360 as "an experiment".

Although not directly stating as much, Kotaku notes that Rockstar "doesn't seem sure that there are enough users with access to online content on the 360 to make it worthwhile for them to continue pumping out episodes".

If viewed as an experiment it's not unreasonable to assume that if the DLC is successful it could lead to further content being released at a later date - presumably on both Xbox 360 and PS3.

De_Bears

im refering to the link you posted about the 360 being the lead platform....i know the 360 will have exclusive content that is a given for everyone....i guess i didnt clearify what i was saying well enoughshadowstryker1x

im refering to the link you posted about the 360 being the lead platform....i know the 360 will have exclusive content that is a given for everyone....i guess i didnt clearify what i was saying well enough

shadowstryker1x

I don't think that was me.

Also downloadable content for PlayStation 3 version Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3, 360)

January 26, 2008, written by Eke BosmanRockstar Games has today announced that two versions of Grand Theft Auto IV downloadable content.PlayStation 3 owners do not have to fear that they have no extra content after the release of the game.

Yesterday was announced that the postponement of Grand Theft Auto IV is due to the PlayStation 3, since developing games for this console simply takes longer than with the Xbox 360. This problem has already been solved, various sources report that the development of the PS3 and Xbox 360 version right now.There are also believed that the PS3 and Xbox 360 version look the same, which should therefore be sure that we finally get no popular game which all fanboys gameplay videos to compare.

But Rockstar also made known that the Xbox 360 console is not the only one who downloadable content. The console from Microsoft gets two exclusive downloadable chapters, with additional missions.They will not come to the PlayStation 3, but will consider all other downloadable content to both consoles.What exactly is this content is not yet known, but are appearing in new cars, new weapons, and maybe still some new missions.

Also downloadable content for PlayStation 3 version Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3, 360)

January 26, 2008, written by Eke BosmanRockstar Games has today announced that two versions of Grand Theft Auto IV downloadable content.PlayStation 3 owners do not have to fear that they have no extra content after the release of the game.

Yesterday was announced that the postponement of Grand Theft Auto IV is due to the PlayStation 3, since developing games for this console simply takes longer than with the Xbox 360. This problem has already been solved, various sources report that the development of the PS3 and Xbox 360 version right now.There are also believed that the PS3 and Xbox 360 version look the same, which should therefore be sure that we finally get no popular game which all fanboys gameplay videos to compare.

But Rockstar also made known that the Xbox 360 console is not the only one who downloadable content. The console from Microsoft gets two exclusive downloadable chapters, with additional missions.They will not come to the PlayStation 3, but will consider all other downloadable content to both consoles.What exactly is this content is not yet known, but are appearing in new cars, new weapons, and maybe still some new missions.

De_Bears

So in other words, The DLC is not an important factor to GTA fans since both console will have them. Now I wonder which consoe is more reliable to play those DLC? :)

[QUOTE="De_Bears"]

Also downloadable content for PlayStation 3 version Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3, 360)

January 26, 2008, written by Eke BosmanRockstar Games has today announced that two versions of Grand Theft Auto IV downloadable content.PlayStation 3 owners do not have to fear that they have no extra content after the release of the game.

Yesterday was announced that the postponement of Grand Theft Auto IV is due to the PlayStation 3, since developing games for this console simply takes longer than with the Xbox 360. This problem has already been solved, various sources report that the development of the PS3 and Xbox 360 version right now.There are also believed that the PS3 and Xbox 360 version look the same, which should therefore be sure that we finally get no popular game which all fanboys gameplay videos to compare.

But Rockstar also made known that the Xbox 360 console is not the only one who downloadable content. The console from Microsoft gets two exclusive downloadable chapters, with additional missions.They will not come to the PlayStation 3, but will consider all other downloadable content to both consoles.What exactly is this content is not yet known, but are appearing in new cars, new weapons, and maybe still some new missions.

Cute_Red_Panda

So in other words, The DLC is not an important factor to GTA fans since both console will have them. Now I wonder which consoe is more reliable to play those DLC? :)

ahh...that thorny rrod issue rears its ugly head once again!

So in other words, The DLC is not an important factor to GTA fans since both console will have them. Now I wonder which consoe is more reliable to play those DLC? :)Cute_Red_Panda

[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]So in other words, The DLC is not an important factor to GTA fans since both console will have them. Now I wonder which consoe is more reliable to play those DLC? :)Jandurin

apples and oranges. That's not important. Some people play GTA just for the weapons some play for the missions.

So in other words, The DLC is not an important factor to GTA fans since both console will have them. Now I wonder which consoe is more reliable to play those DLC? :)

Cute_Red_Panda

Huh? Just because PS3 gets DLC doesn't mean the 360 version loses its -Exclusive- DLC. All this means is that the the 360 gets exclusive DLC with the addition of the other additional DLC that Rockstar will be giving to both consoles.

Its still basic math.

• If GTA4 = X
• Exclusive DLC = 1
• Adittional DLC = 1
• Then X + 2 > X + 1

Its still the same difference no matter what way you cut it. One gets additonal exclusive content while the other doesn't.

[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]So in other words, The DLC is not an important factor to GTA fans since both console will have them. Now I wonder which consoe is more reliable to play those DLC? :)Jandurin

They said it COULD be jsut cars and guns. It could be other stuff.

[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]

So in other words, The DLC is not an important factor to GTA fans since both console will have them. Now I wonder which consoe is more reliable to play those DLC? :)

Blackbond

Huh? Just because PS3 gets DLC doesn't mean the 360 version loses its -Exclusive- DLC. All this means is that the the 360 gets exclusive DLC with the addition of the other additional DLC that Rockstar will be giving to both consoles.

Its still basic math.

• If GTA4 = X
• Exclusive DLC = 1
• Adittional DLC = 1
• Then X + 2 > X + 1

Its still the same difference no matter what way you cut it. One gets additonal exclusive content while the other doesn't.

I like how you change your equation from your previous post. Goes to show how much you really don't know. Like how you don't know the quality of the exclusive content. Is it worth it to buy a faulty system for the content?

The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.De_Bears

360 is cheaper.

The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.De_Bears

I agree. DLC is not a big factor, but some people are trying to make it seem that it is. If paying for extra content that should've already be available with the game is find to some people, then so be it, but don't act like it's a "must-have" because you enjoy the series.

[QUOTE="De_Bears"]The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.Jandurin

360 is cheaper.

"You get what you paid for"

"You get what you paid for"Cute_Red_Panda

Yet, one is more reliable, and it's the cheaper. Now, you get what you pay for means next to nothing. It's facts, not price.

Wii is more reliable than the PS3, by some accounts, and is the cheapest. Etc.

[QUOTE="De_Bears"]The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.Jandurin

360 is cheaper.

Not if you factor in the cost of online gaming

Not if you factor in the cost of online gamingjetpropilot

[QUOTE="De_Bears"]The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.Cute_Red_Panda

I agree. DLC is not a big factor, but some people are trying to make it seem that it is. If paying for extra content that should've already be available with the game is find to some people, then so be it, but don't act like it's a "must-have" because you enjoy the series.

DLC is a big factor. DLC are expansion packs, they add to the games replay value. I rather have the version which Rockstar will add exclusive stuff than the one with no exclusive stuff to be added. And why would the content be in the game already if the content is always revolving and Rockstar could add anything to it and make the island or levels even bigger. The 360 content is already confirmed, but whats in the content is not. It's a ever evolving project for Rockstar.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]

So in other words, The DLC is not an important factor to GTA fans since both console will have them. Now I wonder which consoe is more reliable to play those DLC? :)

Cute_Red_Panda

Huh? Just because PS3 gets DLC doesn't mean the 360 version loses its -Exclusive- DLC. All this means is that the the 360 gets exclusive DLC with the addition of the other additional DLC that Rockstar will be giving to both consoles.

Its still basic math.

• If GTA4 = X
• Exclusive DLC = 1
• Adittional DLC = 1
• Then X + 2 > X + 1

Its still the same difference no matter what way you cut it. One gets additonal exclusive content while the other doesn't.

I like how you change your equation from your previous post. Goes to show how much you really don't know. Like how you don't know the quality of the exclusive content. Is it worth it to buy a faulty system for the content?

You know being a person who has never really been a huge GTA fan. A guy who has never owned nor beaten one GTA game I find the GTA fanbase to be, how should I say....Illogical.

This is simple. This is like 1+1 simple.

If both games on both systems are the same thing as claimed by Rockstar we'll just say that GTA4 = X

Both games are the same but one gets additional Exclusive DLC which we'll say Exlusive DLC = 1

So using my common logic and putting ones controller preference or wanting to play with a black system over a white system, vice versa or any other silly pet peeve that they might have that has nothing to do with the content on the disc you can conclude that.

X + 1 > X

Blackbond

Yeah it did change. I added a 1 to each side of the PS3 and 360 equation to signify the addition of Multiplat DLC. Otherwise the equation is the same. Goes to show how much I don't know? Yeah get real, don't accuse me of things you are wrong about.

Once again you are speculating. Is it worth to buy? Well if it isn't then don't freaking buy it. Too bad the other platform doesn't have a decision in the matter. And why are you even mentioning I wonder which people will choose to play the DLC on claiming the more reliable one :)

Then later saying you don't know about the exclusive content? Hypocite....And then you fall back on the damage control of a faulty console arguement which has nothing to do with the actual game conent.

You know what I'm simply going to say it. You're just a fanboy in denial. We are sitting here comparing versions of games and all you talk about is the 360. If you don't have faith in R* and its DLC then I don't see why you have faith in the game being good in the first place.

[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]

[QUOTE="De_Bears"]The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.ReverseCycology

I agree. DLC is not a big factor, but some people are trying to make it seem that it is. If paying for extra content that should've already be available with the game is find to some people, then so be it, but don't act like it's a "must-have" because you enjoy the series.

DLC is a big factor. DLC are expansion packs, they add to the games replay value. I rather have the version which Rockstar will add exclusive stuff than the one with no exclusive stuff to be added. And why would the content be in the game already if the content is always revolving and Rockstar could add anything to it and make the island or levels even bigger. The 360 content is already confirmed, but whats in the content is not. It's a ever evolving project for Rockstar.

So theres a chance the 360 Content could Suck?

[QUOTE="jetpropilot"]Not if you factor in the cost of online gamingJandurin

true enough

but it is something to consider if we're talking about overall price points

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]

[QUOTE="De_Bears"]The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.black_awpN1

I agree. DLC is not a big factor, but some people are trying to make it seem that it is. If paying for extra content that should've already be available with the game is find to some people, then so be it, but don't act like it's a "must-have" because you enjoy the series.

DLC is a big factor. DLC are expansion packs, they add to the games replay value. I rather have the version which Rockstar will add exclusive stuff than the one with no exclusive stuff to be added. And why would the content be in the game already if the content is always revolving and Rockstar could add anything to it and make the island or levels even bigger. The 360 content is already confirmed, but whats in the content is not. It's a ever evolving project for Rockstar.

So theres a chance the 360 Content could Suck?

Sure if you think Rockstar and GTA suck.

[QUOTE="De_Bears"]The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.Jandurin

360 is cheaper.

go here

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]

[QUOTE="De_Bears"]The only points I'm trying to make is that GTA4 will not make a 360 only owner get a PS3 or vice versa. The battle is for the casuals that will impulse their way into next gen. The advantage is with the PS3. DLC is not an advantage because its not FREE and unavailable for the Arcade. Even if you have the choice for DLC its more than probable that PS3 will have that same option.ReverseCycology

I agree. DLC is not a big factor, but some people are trying to make it seem that it is. If paying for extra content that should've already be available with the game is find to some people, then so be it, but don't act like it's a "must-have" because you enjoy the series.

DLC is a big factor. DLC are expansion packs, they add to the games replay value. I rather have the version which Rockstar will add exclusive stuff than the one with no exclusive stuff to be added. And why would the content be in the game already if the content is always revolving and Rockstar could add anything to it and make the island or levels even bigger. The 360 content is already confirmed, but whats in the content is not. It's a ever evolving project for Rockstar.

So theres a chance the 360 Content could Suck?

Sure if you think Rockstar and GTA suck.

Im going to use a Game as an exaample. I remember myself being a huge Matrix fan, and I like WB movies too. I didnt think any of them sucked. But then the First Matrix game came out, adn it was TERRIBLE! They spent huge amounts of money (like MS is doing with the Extra Content) and the game still sucked. So from this I learned two things: 1. Money cannot buy Quality 2. Anything can be crap.

Here I'll quickly summarize this thread.

Lemmings = Nice we get -Exclusive- DLC if we so choose to download it.

Cows = Who cares about DLC. Your 360 is going to RROD anyways. As long as PS3 gets future DLC that will also be on 360 it won't matter if we miss out on the -Exclusive DLC- As long as we get some DLC.

There is a lot of shameful Damage Control in this thread and really. Its quite sad. Its sad that people aren't even willing to debate about the game but would rather attack a console which has nothing to do with the content you are playing on.

If Kojima was designed MGS4 on two platforms stating that both are going to to be identical in every way yet only one will receive -Exclusive DLC- which version of MGS4 do you think MGS fans are going to buy? Do you think that any MGS fan would have the gull to question Kojima if the extra content is worth it? If you're a MGS then the chance of you thinking its worth it is downright overwhelming.

What a confusing fanbase this game has. I didn't see this kind of crap when the Madden Community made its move from the Playstation Brand ot the Xbox Brand. They didn't complain. They simply recognized that the Xbox brand was getting the feature version and thus they switched. And even before that they weren't like "Oh I'm getting it for Xbox or GC because of the PS2 DRE problem." Nope they did not.

If you're going to buy it for PS3 cool, if you're going to buy it for PC or 360 fine. But when people start talking about who cares about the -Exclusive DLC- just realize you are in denial.

Im going to use a Game as an exaample. I remember myself being a huge Matrix fan, and I like WB movies too. I didnt think any of them sucked. But then the First Matrix game came out, adn it was TERRIBLE! They spent huge amounts of money (like MS is doing with the Extra Content) and the game still sucked. So from this I learned two things: 1. Money cannot buy Quality 2. Anything can be crap.

Did Rockstar have anything to do with The Matrix game? Nope. This is Rockstar and GTA. I'm pretty sure they're not going to drop the ball on this one and with the excusive episodic content.

What did I tell you guys, time and time again. The PS3 version is getting its own exclusive content.-Karmum-

Link? I'm interested in this.

[QUOTE="jetpropilot"]but you can't really tellJandurin

But, if I were a "hardcore" GTA fan, I would know that when that DLC launched, I would be like... CRAP, I want that, it looks awesome.

The hardcore GTA fan would get the PS3 Special Edition of GTA IV site

[QUOTE="-Karmum-"]What did I tell you guys, time and time again. The PS3 version is getting its own exclusive content.Blackbond

Link? I'm interested in this.

http://www.gta4.tv/forums/index.php?showtopic=781428