xbl Gold membership ****

[QUOTE="Flamestos"]

I only payed $30 for 13 months of Live and I still felt ripped off. I won't be buying it again when my membership expires in April 2010. It's ridiculous all I want is to play online like I can for free on PC/PSP/DS/PS3 & Wii. Of course, be prepared you'll get alot of people here singing its praises and saying how it's not a big deal. :roll:

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[QUOTE="DamageDamage"]If Microsoft didn't charge I probably wouldn't have Live because the special feeling would disappear. It's better to cost, because they take the money and make it better, unlike Sony, which has nothing. So I think it's a great think it costs.Wardemon50

[QUOTE="Miyuki-Chan"]

XBL is the best online service, so naturallyyou have to pay. Seriously it's not expensive.

simslifer

no PC is the best and YOU DONT have to pay.

gold membership is easy to buy. 50 bux a year? sure! 100 bux for wireless adapter?

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gold membership is easy to buy. 50 bux a year? sure! 100 bux for wireless adapter?

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Guntrix7

So let me get this straight, an extra $150 for a console is 'worth it' for a bunch of meaningless features (like a watered down internet browser) and an HD movie format that will cost you more money in the long run to fully use to watch the HD movies , whereas an XBL Gold membership isn't even though its obvious the community aspects are far better structured and easier to use then then PSN?

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

So let me get this straight, an extra $150 for a console is 'worth it' for a bunch of meaningless features (like a watered down internet browser) and an HD movie format that will cost you more money in the long run to fully use to watch the HD movies , whereas an XBL Gold membership isn't even though its obvious the community aspects are far better structured and easier to use then then PSN?

Guntrix7

I was talking about the PS3. I use wired because it's faster then Wifi....

[QUOTE="DamageDamage"]If Microsoft didn't charge I probably wouldn't have Live because the special feeling would disappear. It's better to cost, because they take the money and make it better, unlike Sony, which has nothing. So I think it's a great think it costs.2-10-08

And what happens when your company running the dedicated server sees that its counter productive for them to continue running said server.. Well, guess you can enjoy half your game can't ya? Oh wait, I'd be pretty sure that wouldn't happen with a user hosted game.dotWithShoes

on average the time a server is kept for a game is long and by the time they end the server am sure i wont be playing that game so am not worried about that

Free would be better but i don't care about 50$ per year n i am not even rich.....thos who do are mostly cows cuz they know xbl>psn and that make them angrySyferonik

so if you have two people playing lets say street fighter 4 one is playing on psn and the other on xbox live when they get into their match and are actually playing someone can u tell how xbox live is better than psn ?

am sure the person playing on xbox live is having more fun because he is paying for his online svc that does not help wth lag or actual gameplay

i dont see anything wrong with paying for live just remember that fee does not help actual online gameplay it just gives u more features dlc and stuff but its not going to make street fighter 4 bettter when ur in a match

Think of it this way: You pay for Live because it blows PSN away. Kind of like paying extra money for faster internet...it's still internet, but you're shelling out more for better quality. DethSkematik

You mean just like my sig says...

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Free would be better but i don't care about 50$ per year n i am not even rich.....thos who do are mostly cows cuz they know xbl>psn and that make them angryfedor19820

so if you have two people playing lets say street fighter 4 one is playing on psn and the other on xbox live when they get into their match and are actually playing someone can u tell how xbox live is better than psn ?

am sure the person playing on xbox live is having more fun because he is paying for his online svc that does not help wth lag or actual gameplay

i dont see anything wrong with paying for live just remember that fee does not help actual online gameplay it just gives u more features dlc and stuff but its not going to make street fighter 4 bettter when ur in a match

Yes he is because he is probably talking to his other friends while whipping up on his opponent and you're saying mo PSN games lag. Have they finally patched Fat Princess so they can play? BTW, are you enjoying those FREE trial versions of PSN games so you can see if you like the game?

How many times do people have to explain this? No one really likes paying but it's worth it for a lot of reasons. PC gamers are lucky that there are enough enthusiasts out there to maintain servers for their games, on the PS3 developers have to pay to maintain the servers so they can and will take them down when their profitability has run out which on PS3 is normally pretty fast since online communities die quickly for most games and when that happens you can't play that game online anymore ever. All xbox live enabled games still work online to the best of my knowledge and this goes back to xbox games as well. Xbox Live is unified so that all online games have a cohesiveness and a backbone of solid online tools to make it easy for developers to add live support to all of their games. All of those costs are paid for by the fee, and for PS3 Sony and the developers pay those costs, which in turn is passed on to the consumer through ads or lack of online support all together.

How many times do people have to explain this? No one really likes paying but it's worth it for a lot of reasons. PC gamers are lucky that there are enough enthusiasts out there to maintain servers for their games, on the PS3 developers have to pay to maintain the servers so they can and will take them down when their profitability has run out which on PS3 is normally pretty fast since online communities die quickly for most games and when that happens you can't play that game online anymore ever. All xbox live enabled games still work online to the best of my knowledge and this goes back to xbox games as well. Xbox Live is unified so that all online games have a cohesiveness and a backbone of solid online tools to make it easy for developers to add live support to all of their games. All of those costs are paid for by the fee, and for PS3 Sony and the developers pay those costs, which in turn is passed on to the consumer through ads or lack of online support all together.

nosedive7

Also, since the PC is an open platform and ANY one can develop software for it a paid service like XBL isn't going to work because there are already free alternatives out there. It's the reason GFWL was doomed from the start. Aside from it being a steaming pile that is. XBL was created from the start as a subscription service during the original xbox era when there was no competition in that space. Sony with PSN would have fallen flat on it's face if it tried to compete with XBL on it's terms, so they undercut them. It was a smart move (actually it was the only one Sony could make). The Wii isn't even worth talking about in this situation.

It would be sweet if XBL was free, but really, they built this service for years on a for pay system and it would be incredibly stupid to throw all that revenue away just because a competitor has a somewhat decent alternative. They are making money and to a business THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. All of this "It should be free" nonsense is silly. Go use the free alternative. MS isn't obligated to give you anything free because you don't want to pay.The Xbox 360 is a Microsoft system, their rules. You don't like it, there are other consoles to buy.

xbox live is better then PSN by a mile and its worth £40 per year

you know that guy you always hear about here? the guy that after 5 years has payed $250? well that guy is me and i think it has been worth evey cent...

my subscription ends at the end of this month and i have no problem at all paying for it, it enhances my gaming in so many ways but i'll throw in one small recient example so you can see just the tip of the iceberg for why i'm happy to shell out the dough

when bf43 shipped the chat was broken but it was never a problem since me and my friends just made an xbl party and used the cross game chat so we could talk to each other and work better as a team

walking all over people in that game alone makes it worth my money an like i said before that's just one tiny little thing

maybe i'm a sucker but i'm a sucker that gets top squad in my new favorite game 95% of the time :)

I love XBL Gold (much better IMO than PSN, which I also have), and I have not been without it since Halo 2.

Think of it this way: You pay for Live because it blows PSN away. Kind of like paying extra money for faster internet...it's still internet, but you're shelling out more for better quality. DethSkematik

thats true but when u pay for xbox live ur NOT getting faster interent

[QUOTE="fedor19820"]

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Free would be better but i don't care about 50$ per year n i am not even rich.....thos who do are mostly cows cuz they know xbl>psn and that make them angryMizFitAwesome

so if you have two people playing lets say street fighter 4 one is playing on psn and the other on xbox live when they get into their match and are actually playing someone can u tell how xbox live is better than psn ?

am sure the person playing on xbox live is having more fun because he is paying for his online svc that does not help wth lag or actual gameplay

i dont see anything wrong with paying for live just remember that fee does not help actual online gameplay it just gives u more features dlc and stuff but its not going to make street fighter 4 bettter when ur in a match

Yes he is because he is probably talking to his other friends while whipping up on his opponent and you're saying mo PSN games lag. Have they finally patched Fat Princess so they can play? BTW, are you enjoying those FREE trial versions of PSN games so you can see if you like the game?

oh no little fat princess has lag issues for a new game and sure that never happend to a new xbox live game

because u pay for xbox live it guarantees u lag free play for EVERY GAME

and am sure gears of war 2 had no lag issues when it game out because its impossible to have lag issues when ur paying to play onlne

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="fedor19820"]

so if you have two people playing lets say street fighter 4 one is playing on psn and the other on xbox live when they get into their match and are actually playing someone can u tell how xbox live is better than psn ?

am sure the person playing on xbox live is having more fun because he is paying for his online svc that does not help wth lag or actual gameplay

i dont see anything wrong with paying for live just remember that fee does not help actual online gameplay it just gives u more features dlc and stuff but its not going to make street fighter 4 bettter when ur in a match

fedor19820

Yes he is because he is probably talking to his other friends while whipping up on his opponent and you're saying mo PSN games lag. Have they finally patched Fat Princess so they can play? BTW, are you enjoying those FREE trial versions of PSN games so you can see if you like the game?

oh no little fat princess has lag issues for a new game and sure that never happend to a new xbox live game

because u pay for xbox live it guarantees u lag free play for EVERY GAME

and am sure gears of war 2 had no lag issues when it game out because its impossible to have lag issues when ur paying to play onlne

[QUOTE="DethSkematik"]Think of it this way: You pay for Live because it blows PSN away. Kind of like paying extra money for faster internet...it's still internet, but you're shelling out more for better quality. fedor19820

thats true but when u pay for xbox live ur NOT getting faster interent

If you meant that in the literal sense then yeah, you dont.

But if you said that to actually mean that you dont get overall better quality with LIVE vs PSN then your wrong, you do get a better sevice with LIVE.

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="fedor19820"]

so if you have two people playing lets say street fighter 4 one is playing on psn and the other on xbox live when they get into their match and are actually playing someone can u tell how xbox live is better than psn ?

am sure the person playing on xbox live is having more fun because he is paying for his online svc that does not help wth lag or actual gameplay

i dont see anything wrong with paying for live just remember that fee does not help actual online gameplay it just gives u more features dlc and stuff but its not going to make street fighter 4 bettter when ur in a match

fedor19820

Yes he is because he is probably talking to his other friends while whipping up on his opponent and you're saying mo PSN games lag. Have they finally patched Fat Princess so they can play? BTW, are you enjoying those FREE trial versions of PSN games so you can see if you like the game?

oh no little fat princess has lag issues for a new game and sure that never happend to a new xbox live game

because u pay for xbox live it guarantees u lag free play for EVERY GAME

and am sure gears of war 2 had no lag issues when it game out because its impossible to have lag issues when ur paying to play onlne

Nice to see cows still trying to justify their new PSN games because a 1 and a half year old 360 title had issues. Would you like to show a link of a new XBLA game scored low because of network issues?

my comment is it's worth every penny....less than 5 dollars a month and tbh I'm sick of hearing ppl whine bout it

chikenfriedrice

Sometimes I wonder why people even choose gaming as a hobby when they have trouble paying $4/month.

my comment is it's worth every penny....less than 5 dollars a month and tbh I'm sick of hearing ppl whine bout it

chikenfriedrice

This. I'd rather pay for a quality service than get a free below-par one. Also, since when were Microsoft FORCING you?

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

[QUOTE="DamageDamage"]If Microsoft didn't charge I probably wouldn't have Live because the special feeling would disappear. It's better to cost, because they take the money and make it better, unlike Sony, which has nothing. So I think it's a great think it costs.WilliamRLBaker

One of my friends actually canceled and everything since he traded his 360 for a PS3 but they still charged him for one month. He called and said it was their fault and they admitted their mistake. Problem was, he had an overdraft fee due to the renewal (only did 3 month renewals). They said all they could do was refund the money for his live account and he had to pay his own overdraft fee which he had proof was caused due to the renewal. I LOLed at hard for him but felt sorry for his children.

If Microsoft didn't charge I probably wouldn't have Live because the special feeling would disappear. It's better to cost, because they take the money and make it better, unlike Sony, which has nothing. So I think it's a great think it costs.DamageDamage

I have to disagree with you, because when I buy XBL I feel riped off, because PSN and XBL give the same exact Features at the same quality. The only thing PSN that really dosn't have that XBL has is In Game Private Chat, so paying $50 a year for in game private chat is a scam. Also Sony has made alot of changes to PSN since 2006 such as ingame xmb, trophies, Home, Video store (which has alot more movies and tv shows then the video market place),IM, Ingame Music, ect.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="2-10-08"] :lol: The fact that it costs is sort of hidden. Make sure to buy the prepaid cards because you can't cancel online when you buy live through the xbox.

tmntPunchout

One of my friends actually canceled and everything since he traded his 360 for a PS3 but they still charged him for one month. He called and said it was their fault and they admitted their mistake. Problem was, he had an overdraft fee due to the renewal (only did 3 month renewals). They said all they could do was refund the money for his live account and he had to pay his own overdraft fee which he had proof was caused due to the renewal. I LOLed at hard for him but felt sorry for his children.

Considering you could pay $15 a month for one game, I figure $40 a year (yes, you can find it that cheap, its called amazon) for any game on an entire console isn't too bad at all.

Ok i made a forum talking about this earlier on a the xbox forums but it got locked so im doing it here now.OK the point of this forum is to talk about how cheap it is that microsoft is forcing u to pay to get online from gold membership cards.See for my birthday i was gonna get halo 3 and play online all day when i found this out.Dont make fun of me for not knowing.I always play games on my ps3 and pc so i barely touch me 360.Leave comments and tell me how YOU feel.

kris9031998

[QUOTE="DamageDamage"]If Microsoft didn't charge I probably wouldn't have Live because the special feeling would disappear. It's better to cost, because they take the money and make it better, unlike Sony, which has nothing. So I think it's a great think it costs.IDeadlyReconI

I have to disagree with you, because when I buy XBL I feel riped off, because PSN and XBL give the same exact Features at the same quality. The only thing PSN that really dosn't have that XBL has is In Game Private Chat, so paying $50 a year for in game private chat is a scam. Also Sony has made alot of changes to PSN since 2006 such as ingame xmb, trophies, Home, Video store (which has alot more movies and tv shows then the video market place),IM, Ingame Music, ect.

Where do you get the same quality from when most multiplat owners can see that the XBL features are more streamlined and easier to use?

You guys are **** ridiculous.

Sure, MS isn't forcing you to shell out near the price of a new game a year for online. Sure, LIVE has in game chat. But do you guys realize that PSN offers the same experience in gameplay for free?

If a game is broken like Battlefield 1940-Whatever's chat system, it should be fixed. You shouldn't need to pay for an alternative.

I play HAZE, a PS3 game that bombed and "sucked", online and have a blast, similar to my experience on HALO. I played GTAIV online on PSN and, guess what, it was no different on LIVE. Not a difference in gameplay or experience. Why? Because the game's the game, LIVE doesn't change that.

I see that most fanboys don't mind throwing away 50 bucks on an unnecessary priced feature. Good for you. Ignorance is bliss. Meanwhile, I wont pay **** for online because I rather buy one more game a year. I like being able to go online when I want for free. I don't like being sold a gimped system and then being told if I want to enjoy the full experience it's going to cost me more. I paid for my **** I paid money up the ass for an online capable system and internet. Why do I need to pay to add 1 and 1 and get 2? I shouldn't. It should be free.

So, fanboys can suck on their XBOX LIVE all they want and give a million reasons to justify why they're being scammed. Meanwhile, I'll play some online and download a demo or two without spending an additional penny.

Zohluff

So when you are buying BluRays (the king of an unnecessary overpriced feature) that makes you a fanboy? Better yet, the people that prefer XBL over pSN are now fanboys?

You guys are **** ridiculous.

Sure, MS isn't forcing you to shell out near the price of a new game a year for online. Sure, LIVE has in game chat. But do you guys realize that PSN offers the same experience in gameplay for free?

If a game is broken like Battlefield 1940-Whatever's chat system, it should be fixed. You shouldn't need to pay for an alternative.

I play HAZE, a PS3 game that bombed and "sucked", online and have a blast, similar to my experience on HALO. I played GTAIV online on PSN and, guess what, it was no different on LIVE. Not a difference in gameplay or experience. Why? Because the game's the game, LIVE doesn't change that.

I see that most fanboys don't mind throwing away 50 bucks on an unnecessary priced feature. Good for you. Ignorance is bliss. Meanwhile, I wont pay **** for online because I rather buy one more game a year. I like being able to go online when I want for free. I don't like being sold a gimped system and then being told if I want to enjoy the full experience it's going to cost me more. I paid for my **** I paid money up the ass for an online capable system and internet. Why do I need to pay to add 1 and 1 and get 2? I shouldn't. It should be free.

So, fanboys can suck on their XBOX LIVE all they want and give a million reasons to justify why they're being scammed. Meanwhile, I'll play some online and download a demo or two without spending an additional penny.

Zohluff

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

One of my friends actually canceled and everything since he traded his 360 for a PS3 but they still charged him for one month. He called and said it was their fault and they admitted their mistake. Problem was, he had an overdraft fee due to the renewal (only did 3 month renewals). They said all they could do was refund the money for his live account and he had to pay his own overdraft fee which he had proof was caused due to the renewal. I LOLed at hard for him but felt sorry for his children.

WilliamRLBaker

I've never had that problem either, I just mentioned it because the guy mentioned hidden fees or something like that and thought this funny story related in some way.

[QUOTE="IDeadlyReconI"]

[QUOTE="DamageDamage"]If Microsoft didn't charge I probably wouldn't have Live because the special feeling would disappear. It's better to cost, because they take the money and make it better, unlike Sony, which has nothing. So I think it's a great think it costs.MizFitAwesome

I have to disagree with you, because when I buy XBL I feel riped off, because PSN and XBL give the same exact Features at the same quality. The only thing PSN that really dosn't have that XBL has is In Game Private Chat, so paying $50 a year for in game private chat is a scam. Also Sony has made alot of changes to PSN since 2006 such as ingame xmb, trophies, Home, Video store (which has alot more movies and tv shows then the video market place),IM, Ingame Music, ect.

Where do you get the same quality from when most multiplat owners can see that the XBL features are more streamlined and easier to use?

If Microsoft didn't charge I probably wouldn't have Live because the special feeling would disappear. It's better to cost, because they take the money and make it better, unlike Sony, which has nothing. So I think it's a great think it costs.DamageDamage

Better that it costs money? all these poor lemmings are so easily milked it not even funny, nothing on xbox live is worth the fee for using it, especially when you can get a better experience for free on the pc.

I just want to play my games online. Greedy Microsoft. I hope they never win future console war. Otherwise we might be forced to pay for everything. nchan