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Launch date ? November isn't getting any further way... :roll:

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#102 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="granddogg"]
http://www.geekwire.com/2013/xbox-update-console-full-production-improved-cpu-performance/
FoxbatAlpha

What they need to do is take off the drm, instead of requiring people to go online to do a day one patch. They can do all these changes, boosting power and other crap, but they cant do that. Seem like they want people to download the patch so they can see how many people have access to internet and when they get the consumer base and see if there is a large enough base that has internet (probably why they left drm on there), here comes those dumb policies right back

*Puts on tinfoil hat* If you want conspiracy theories, look into 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing. Drm is gone.

For now, but for how long? Microsoft has shown that they can make all these hardware and software changes on their end, so why not take it off. Maybe its cuz they know only those with relaible internet connection and people that have internet connection will buy their new xbox. So all they have to do is play the waiting game for a couple years and bam! initiate a mandatory patch that brings those policies all back. Look at last gen, they had so many great exclusives at the beginning of 360 and after 4 or 5 years or so the support started to dwindle, why do you think that is? Maybe because they had a consumer base they were happy with so they knew they didnt have to provide all those exclusives. How many exclusives did they have this year on 360? Wasnt it like one?

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#103 00-Riddick-00

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Delusional xbots at it again.

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#104 Nonstop-Madness

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
I would also like to clarify the whole "max 2.75Ghz" thing. 2.75GHz is that max clock speed of both CPU and GPU combined because the APU is a single chip.

GPU - 800 MHz
+
CPU - 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz
+
Overclock head way for dev kit.
=
2.75GHz

FoxbatAlpha

Or could that be the potential CPU speed out of the box before Sony started fiddlng with it? This sound more truerererer.

Probably not. I wouldn't see why Sony would try to overclock a low power CPU by at least 750Mhz (1.5GHz-2.0Ghz is the standard for Jaguar cores). They would have been better off choose a different core architecture for their APU.

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#105 Soul4Survivor

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wow Sony are done
:cool:
RR360DD

:lol::lol::cry: poor lem even with this you still playing catch up :lol:

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
I would also like to clarify the whole "max 2.75Ghz" thing. 2.75GHz is that max clock speed of both CPU and GPU combined because the APU is a single chip.

GPU - 800 MHz
+
CPU - 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz
+
Overclock head way for dev kit.
=
2.75GHz

FoxbatAlpha

Not sure it works that way. Both Intel and AMD rate their CPUs to a maximum "bin" speed. The max binned speed of that chip is 2.75GHz. The GPU will have its own speed allocation.

Clyde you are on a God Damn roll. Dont stop and pedal down brotha. Smokin these fools like it aint no thang.

I made an error, the process is actually called Speed Binning. Its what decides if a chip is an i5 or an i3 or an i7 for example and then at what speed. Silicon lottery decides on how well a chip clocks at. If its a good chip with a high clock speed then it will become part of the high end lines, if its a poor clocker then it gets put in the budget lines.

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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
I would also like to clarify the whole "max 2.75Ghz" thing. 2.75GHz is that max clock speed of both CPU and GPU combined because the APU is a single chip.

GPU - 800 MHz
+
CPU - 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz
+
Overclock head way for dev kit.
=
2.75GHz

Nonstop-Madness

Or could that be the potential CPU speed out of the box before Sony started fiddlng with it? This sound more truerererer.

Probably not. I wouldn't see why Sony would try to overclock a low power CPU by at least 750Mhz (1.5GHz-2.0Ghz is the standard for Jaguar cores). They would have been better off choose a different core architecture for their APU.

Its not just the CPU under that heatsink, that heatsink has got to cool both the CPU and GPU. As I said before, cooling will be the deciding factor and considering these machines are enclosed in a metal case, then put in a plastic casing with a 7+ life span on the card, both companies will want to make both machines as tough and long lasting as possible. You saw what happened when MS tried shoving high end kit in a enclosed box with poor cooling.

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Delusional xbots at it again.
00-Riddick-00

10% thread performance advantage over PS4 is very real. No delusion. The only delusion would be convincing yourself it wouldnt matter in the real world.

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#109 FLOPPAGE_50

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so now sony has the better GPU, while M$ has a better CPU.

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#110 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] What they need to do is take off the drm, instead of requiring people to go online to do a day one patch. They can do all these changes, boosting power and other crap, but they cant do that. Seem like they want people to download the patch so they can see how many people have access to internet and when they get the consumer base and see if there is a large enough base that has internet (probably why they left drm on there), here comes those dumb policies right back

*Puts on tinfoil hat* If you want conspiracy theories, look into 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing. Drm is gone.

For now, but for how long? Microsoft has shown that they can make all these hardware and software changes on their end, so why not take it off. Maybe its cuz they know only those with relaible internet connection and people that have internet connection will buy their new xbox. So all they have to do is play the waiting game for a couple years and bam! initiate a mandatory patch that brings those policies all back. Look at last gen, they had so many great exclusives at the beginning of 360 and after 4 or 5 years or so the support started to dwindle, why do you think that is? Maybe because they had a consumer base they were happy with so they knew they didnt have to provide all those exclusives. How many exclusives did they have this year on 360? Wasnt it like one?

I wouldnt say support dwindled in the last 4-5 years that is a stretch. This is the only quiet year and i have no problem with that. Drop the 360 and go full throttle with the X1. Back on topic. Your only issue with the X1 is that they will magicly turn DRM on in a few years? I am not the person to say that they will or wont but it would be low if they did and as far as countries with poor internet. Fu7k um. You dont have internet and still piss in a bucket then go get a Wii. Dont sell yourself short when you can own the console of the new gen. the X1.

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This is twice that so called insider has been right on the money, flash ram, now this !! Next up dgpu????!!!

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#112 Spartan070

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This is twice that so called insider has been right on the money, flash ram, now this !! Next up dgpu????!!!Tighaman

Lol can only wish :P

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#113 Opus_Rea-333

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so this cpu speed bump actually makes Xbox One more intelligent than PS4 at least 150Mhz more :cool:

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Now it's up to 1.4tf for the Xbox One.

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so now sony has the better GPU, while M$ has a better CPU.
FLOPPAGE_50

Yeah like last gen when the PS3 had the better CPU and the 360 had the better GPU. :cool:

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[QUOTE="FLOPPAGE_50"]
so now sony has the better GPU, while M$ has a better CPU.
xhawk27

Yeah like last gen when the PS3 had the better CPU and the 360 had the better GPU. :cool:

No, id argue the PS4 has a much stronger GPU in comparison the the 360 <-> PS3 comparison, and the Xbone has a weaker CPU in the same comparison.

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#117 Tessellation

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A meaningless number will cause the dwellers a serious butthurt :cool:

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#119 Opus_Rea-333

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so this cpu speed bump actually makes Xbox One more intelligent than PS4 at least 150Mhz more :cool:Opus_Rea-333

actually i was wrong it is 1.2GHz since 150 x8 cores = 1.2 Ghz thats alot !!

so this small bump actually makes Xbox One CPU 1.2 Ghz more powerful than PS4s Cpu :cool:

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#120 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] *Puts on tinfoil hat* If you want conspiracy theories, look into 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing. Drm is gone.

For now, but for how long? Microsoft has shown that they can make all these hardware and software changes on their end, so why not take it off. Maybe its cuz they know only those with relaible internet connection and people that have internet connection will buy their new xbox. So all they have to do is play the waiting game for a couple years and bam! initiate a mandatory patch that brings those policies all back. Look at last gen, they had so many great exclusives at the beginning of 360 and after 4 or 5 years or so the support started to dwindle, why do you think that is? Maybe because they had a consumer base they were happy with so they knew they didnt have to provide all those exclusives. How many exclusives did they have this year on 360? Wasnt it like one?

I wouldnt say support dwindled in the last 4-5 years that is a stretch. This is the only quiet year and i have no problem with that. Drop the 360 and go full throttle with the X1. Back on topic. Your only issue with the X1 is that they will magicly turn DRM on in a few years? I am not the person to say that they will or wont but it would be low if they did and as far as countries with poor internet. Fu7k um. You dont have internet and still piss in a bucket then go get a Wii. Dont sell yourself short when you can own the console of the new gen. the X1.

I would say it has dwindled some in regards to exclusives (not a stretch at all). There have been about 90 exclusives from til 2010 from xbox and like 65 from 2010 till now ( some of those include kinect, which who really cares about those? so maybe 60 would be more accurate).. As for your comment on those countries that dont have internet, thats a terrible and greedy persepective have which unfortunately is what the attitude of most xbox and MS fanboys have. I dont think of gaming as only the perspective of me, I look at a larger picture. People without internet shouldnt be able to play Xone? What about military service members, screw them too? Call it a conspiracy if you want (my belief that they will bring drm back). But you should question why they can do all these hardware and sofware changes but not take out drm. Look at the new Forza thats coming out, it ships incomplete. You cant finish the career mode without downloading a patch. Are you kidding me??? WHy cant i play offline and finish the game? I am willing to put anything on that between 2016-2018 at some point between those years DRM will be back on xone, maybe even as early as 2015 (doubtful though)

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#121 Opus_Rea-333

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A meaningless number will cause the dwellers a serious butthurt :cool:Tessellation

LMAO nice sig BTW..

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The reason that the CPU in the PS4 isn't going to be clocked at 2.0ghz is because of the PS4's small case design.

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#123 Tessellation

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I would also like to clarify the whole "max 2.75Ghz" thing. 2.75GHz is that max clock speed of both CPU and GPU combined because the APU is a single chip.

GPU - 800 MHz
+
CPU - 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz
+
Overclock head way for dev kit.
=
2.75GHz

Nonstop-Madness

Nope that was confirmed to be the speed of the memory.

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#124 Tessellation

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]A meaningless number will cause the dwellers a serious butthurt :cool:Opus_Rea-333

LMAO nice sig BTW..

thanks :cool:

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#125 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] For now, but for how long? Microsoft has shown that they can make all these hardware and software changes on their end, so why not take it off. Maybe its cuz they know only those with relaible internet connection and people that have internet connection will buy their new xbox. So all they have to do is play the waiting game for a couple years and bam! initiate a mandatory patch that brings those policies all back. Look at last gen, they had so many great exclusives at the beginning of 360 and after 4 or 5 years or so the support started to dwindle, why do you think that is? Maybe because they had a consumer base they were happy with so they knew they didnt have to provide all those exclusives. How many exclusives did they have this year on 360? Wasnt it like one?

I wouldnt say support dwindled in the last 4-5 years that is a stretch. This is the only quiet year and i have no problem with that. Drop the 360 and go full throttle with the X1. Back on topic. Your only issue with the X1 is that they will magicly turn DRM on in a few years? I am not the person to say that they will or wont but it would be low if they did and as far as countries with poor internet. Fu7k um. You dont have internet and still piss in a bucket then go get a Wii. Dont sell yourself short when you can own the console of the new gen. the X1.

I would say it has dwindled some in regards to exclusives (not a stretch at all). There have been about 90 exclusives from til 2010 from xbox and like 65 from 2010 till now ( some of those include kinect, which who really cares about those? so maybe 60 would be more accurate).. As for your comment on those countries that dont have internet, thats a terrible and greedy persepective have which unfortunately is what the attitude of most xbox and MS fanboys have. I dont think of gaming as only the perspective of me, I look at a larger picture. People without internet shouldnt be able to play Xone? What about military service members, screw them too? Call it a conspiracy if you want (my belief that they will bring drm back). But you should question why they can do all these hardware and sofware changes but not take out drm. Look at the new Forza thats coming out, it ships incomplete. You cant finish the career mode without downloading a patch. Are you kidding me??? WHy cant i play offline and finish the game? I am willing to put anything on that between 2016-2018 at some point between those years DRM will be back on xone, maybe even as early as 2015 (doubtful though)

I say fu7k countries with no Internet. That is American not MS fanboy. You are still locked into the DRM days. Our servicemen can play wherever they want and that's a good thing. As far as Forza goes? Who cares that you have to download a patch. That company always nails it so if they are trying to get a game together to be ready by launch then so be it. The entire generation won't be defined by this patch. Sony already mentioned DRM when the PS3 was announced or around that time. If it comes back in the future it will be both of them. They both had it on their radar.

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#126 Nonstop-Madness

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
I would also like to clarify the whole "max 2.75Ghz" thing. 2.75GHz is that max clock speed of both CPU and GPU combined because the APU is a single chip.

GPU - 800 MHz
+
CPU - 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz
+
Overclock head way for dev kit.
=
2.75GHz

Tessellation

Nope that was confirmed to be the speed of the memory.

1.6GHz CPU, 800MHz GPU ..... Im done with anymore speculation.

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#127 FoxbatAlpha

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This is twice that so called insider has been right on the money, flash ram, now this !! Next up dgpu????!!!Tighaman

I know right! All we can do is sit back and watch the damage control. But you can't DC when this megaton hits. Wurd.

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#128 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
I would also like to clarify the whole "max 2.75Ghz" thing. 2.75GHz is that max clock speed of both CPU and GPU combined because the APU is a single chip.

GPU - 800 MHz
+
CPU - 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz
+
Overclock head way for dev kit.
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2.75GHz

Nonstop-Madness

Nope that was confirmed to be the speed of the memory.

1.6GHz CPU, 800MHz GPU ..... Im done with anymore speculation.

That's 853Mhz. 53 53

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#129 Tessellation

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
I would also like to clarify the whole "max 2.75Ghz" thing. 2.75GHz is that max clock speed of both CPU and GPU combined because the APU is a single chip.

GPU - 800 MHz
+
CPU - 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz
+
Overclock head way for dev kit.
=
2.75GHz

Nonstop-Madness

Nope that was confirmed to be the speed of the memory.

1.6GHz CPU, 800MHz GPU ..... Im done with anymore speculation.

''This 2.75GHz figure is the WCLK of the GDDR5 interface. GDDR5 has two clocks: One for adresses and commands (1.375GHz in PS4) and one for data (2.75GHz in PS4). You can easily do the math since Cerny mentioned several times that PS4 will have a 256Bit interface and a bandwidth of 176GB/s. You need the aforementioned clocks to reach the needed data rate of 5.5Gbps.''

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#130 Opus_Rea-333

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[QUOTE="Tighaman"]This is twice that so called insider has been right on the money, flash ram, now this !! Next up dgpu????!!!FoxbatAlpha

I know right! All we can do is sit back and watch the damage control. But you can't DC when this megaton hits. Wurd.

im smelling a secret discrette gpu hiding somewhere the deeps of Xbox One internals.. sorry my english.. lol love my spanish the most.

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#131 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] I wouldnt say support dwindled in the last 4-5 years that is a stretch. This is the only quiet year and i have no problem with that. Drop the 360 and go full throttle with the X1. Back on topic. Your only issue with the X1 is that they will magicly turn DRM on in a few years? I am not the person to say that they will or wont but it would be low if they did and as far as countries with poor internet. Fu7k um. You dont have internet and still piss in a bucket then go get a Wii. Dont sell yourself short when you can own the console of the new gen. the X1.

I would say it has dwindled some in regards to exclusives (not a stretch at all). There have been about 90 exclusives from til 2010 from xbox and like 65 from 2010 till now ( some of those include kinect, which who really cares about those? so maybe 60 would be more accurate).. As for your comment on those countries that dont have internet, thats a terrible and greedy persepective have which unfortunately is what the attitude of most xbox and MS fanboys have. I dont think of gaming as only the perspective of me, I look at a larger picture. People without internet shouldnt be able to play Xone? What about military service members, screw them too? Call it a conspiracy if you want (my belief that they will bring drm back). But you should question why they can do all these hardware and sofware changes but not take out drm. Look at the new Forza thats coming out, it ships incomplete. You cant finish the career mode without downloading a patch. Are you kidding me??? WHy cant i play offline and finish the game? I am willing to put anything on that between 2016-2018 at some point between those years DRM will be back on xone, maybe even as early as 2015 (doubtful though)

I say fu7k countries with no Internet. That is American not MS fanboy. You are still locked into the DRM days. Our servicemen can play wherever they want and that's a good thing. As far as Forza goes? Who cares that you have to download a patch. That company always nails it so if they are trying to get a game together to be ready by launch then so be it. The entire generation won't be defined by this patch. Sony already mentioned DRM when the PS3 was announced or around that time. If it comes back in the future it will be both of them. They both had it on their radar.

So your ok with paying 60 dollars for FOrza and its not even a complete game?? So you have to pay an extra 60 bucks for gold to play the entire game? So a 60 dollar game now costs you 120? That is not american is xbot fanboyism. You do realize there are areas in the country that dont have good wiring to allow for a reliable internet connection right? Its not just other countries. In regards to these countries why are you ok with them not being able to play, everyone should be able to enjoy the system, you are sounding more and more like Mattrick (just buy a 360). Those people can play a Wii U or ps4 out of the box why not Xone? If drm come back (not if, when) both systems will do it????? Sony has shown no intention of this, they have provided beneft after benefit for the consumer. While MS has aleinated their fanbase from day one, so I dont see your rationale in stating if (agian not if but when) drm comes back that sony will be involved in this. Especially since their games can be played offline and MS has games like FOrza that requires online

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#132 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="Tighaman"]This is twice that so called insider has been right on the money, flash ram, now this !! Next up dgpu????!!!Opus_Rea-333

I know right! All we can do is sit back and watch the damage control. But you can't DC when this megaton hits. Wurd.

im smelling a secret discrette gpu hiding somewhere the deeps of Xbox One internals.. sorry my english.. lol love my spanish the most.

I'm so excited that i just can't hide it!!!!!!!!!!

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#133 killzowned24

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Now it's up to 1.4tf for the Xbox One.
xhawk27

Still a half teraflop behind :lol:

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#134 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
I would also like to clarify the whole "max 2.75Ghz" thing. 2.75GHz is that max clock speed of both CPU and GPU combined because the APU is a single chip.

GPU - 800 MHz
+
CPU - 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz
+
Overclock head way for dev kit.
=
2.75GHz

Nonstop-Madness

Nope that was confirmed to be the speed of the memory.

1.6GHz CPU, 800MHz GPU ..... Im done with anymore speculation.

no dude its not the APU mhz added up all together, its the clock of the GDDR5, 2.75 ghz x2= 5.5 ghz which is what the ps4 is running at effective memory clock

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#135 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] I would say it has dwindled some in regards to exclusives (not a stretch at all). There have been about 90 exclusives from til 2010 from xbox and like 65 from 2010 till now ( some of those include kinect, which who really cares about those? so maybe 60 would be more accurate).. As for your comment on those countries that dont have internet, thats a terrible and greedy persepective have which unfortunately is what the attitude of most xbox and MS fanboys have. I dont think of gaming as only the perspective of me, I look at a larger picture. People without internet shouldnt be able to play Xone? What about military service members, screw them too? Call it a conspiracy if you want (my belief that they will bring drm back). But you should question why they can do all these hardware and sofware changes but not take out drm. Look at the new Forza thats coming out, it ships incomplete. You cant finish the career mode without downloading a patch. Are you kidding me??? WHy cant i play offline and finish the game? I am willing to put anything on that between 2016-2018 at some point between those years DRM will be back on xone, maybe even as early as 2015 (doubtful though)

I say fu7k countries with no Internet. That is American not MS fanboy. You are still locked into the DRM days. Our servicemen can play wherever they want and that's a good thing. As far as Forza goes? Who cares that you have to download a patch. That company always nails it so if they are trying to get a game together to be ready by launch then so be it. The entire generation won't be defined by this patch. Sony already mentioned DRM when the PS3 was announced or around that time. If it comes back in the future it will be both of them. They both had it on their radar.

So your ok with paying 60 dollars for FOrza and its not even a complete game?? So you have to pay an extra 60 bucks for gold to play the entire game? So a 60 dollar game now costs you 120? That is not american is xbot fanboyism. You do realize there are areas in the country that dont have good wiring to allow for a reliable internet connection right? Its not just other countries. In regards to these countries why are you ok with them not being able to play, everyone should be able to enjoy the system, you are sounding more and more like Mattrick (just buy a 360). Those people can play a Wii U or ps4 out of the box why not Xone? If drm come back (not if, when) both systems will do it????? Sony has shown no intention of this, they have provided beneft after benefit for the consumer. While MS has aleinated their fanbase from day one, so I dont see your rationale in stating if (agian not if but when) drm comes back that sony will be involved in this. Especially since their games can be played offline and MS has games like FOrza that requires online

I am payed up for the year for XBL and the $60 gets me a lot more than just playing Forza, so your math is biased. Oh and provide benefit after benefit? Look at this history of lies. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25247543

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#136 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]
Now it's up to 1.4tf for the Xbox One.
killzowned24

Still a half teraflop behind :lol:

The X1 will be more powerful than that when all the dust settles.

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#137 Wickerman777

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[QUOTE="Tighaman"]This is twice that so called insider has been right on the money, flash ram, now this !! Next up dgpu????!!!FoxbatAlpha

I know right! All we can do is sit back and watch the damage control. But you can't DC when this megaton hits. Wurd.

If there was some kind of megaton like a hidden dGPU then there wouldn't be any reason to upclock the GPU and CPU to begin with. I'm pretty disappointed too that the only thing MS has been able to accomplish since the PS4 reveal is some lousy upclocks but it is what it is.

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The reason that the CPU in the PS4 isn't going to be clocked at 2.0ghz is because of the PS4's small case design.
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yeah i cant see them going higher with that design. the big box helped the X1 on this one. dat bottleneck now on the ps4 =OD

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#139 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] I say fu7k countries with no Internet. That is American not MS fanboy. You are still locked into the DRM days. Our servicemen can play wherever they want and that's a good thing. As far as Forza goes? Who cares that you have to download a patch. That company always nails it so if they are trying to get a game together to be ready by launch then so be it. The entire generation won't be defined by this patch. Sony already mentioned DRM when the PS3 was announced or around that time. If it comes back in the future it will be both of them. They both had it on their radar.

So your ok with paying 60 dollars for FOrza and its not even a complete game?? So you have to pay an extra 60 bucks for gold to play the entire game? So a 60 dollar game now costs you 120? That is not american is xbot fanboyism. You do realize there are areas in the country that dont have good wiring to allow for a reliable internet connection right? Its not just other countries. In regards to these countries why are you ok with them not being able to play, everyone should be able to enjoy the system, you are sounding more and more like Mattrick (just buy a 360). Those people can play a Wii U or ps4 out of the box why not Xone? If drm come back (not if, when) both systems will do it????? Sony has shown no intention of this, they have provided beneft after benefit for the consumer. While MS has aleinated their fanbase from day one, so I dont see your rationale in stating if (agian not if but when) drm comes back that sony will be involved in this. Especially since their games can be played offline and MS has games like FOrza that requires online

I am payed up for the year for XBL and the $60 gets me a lot more than just playing Forza, so your math is biased. Oh and provide benefit after benefit? Look at this history of lies. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25247543

Look at the timeline where the PS3 launched and you needed a download to use PSN. Sounds a little more severe than just being able to finish a single game. Read more. The lies are quite entertaining.

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[QUOTE="granddogg"]
http://www.geekwire.com/2013/xbox-update-console-full-production-improved-cpu-performance/
PS4TrumpsXbox1

What they need to do is take off the drm, instead of requiring people to go online to do a day one patch. They can do all these changes, boosting power and other crap, but they cant do that. Seem like they want people to download the patch so they can see how many people have access to internet and when they get the consumer base and see if there is a large enough base that has internet (probably why they left drm on there), here comes those dumb policies right back

MS will probably have an "opt in" policy for digital downloads and DRM to allow for the reselling of digital games. They will give you choice, stay with the old way or you can move into the future at your own pace.

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yawn ..lemmings just switch the PS4 ..stop making your life so difficult..

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#142 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="Tighaman"]This is twice that so called insider has been right on the money, flash ram, now this !! Next up dgpu????!!!Wickerman777

I know right! All we can do is sit back and watch the damage control. But you can't DC when this megaton hits. Wurd.

If there was some kind of megaton like a hidden dGPU then there wouldn't be any reason to upclock the GPU and CPU to begin with. I'm pretty disappointed too that the only thing MS has been able to accomplish since the PS4 reveal is some lousy upclocks but it is what it is.

You are right. I get nothing out of hoping but I loose nothing if it's a bust. Either way I win with my sexy X1.

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]
Now it's up to 1.4tf for the Xbox One.
FoxbatAlpha

Still a half teraflop behind :lol:

The X1 will be more powerful than that when all the dust settles.

the dust settle and reveal the red lights of death version 2..you guys love to nibble on the xbone huh?

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#145 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="stayhigh1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] Still a half teraflop behind :lol:

The X1 will be more powerful than that when all the dust settles.

the dust settle and reveal the red lights of death version 2..you guys love to nibble on the xbone huh?

Yeah. Sorry you didn't have anything good to say. Have fun and may your PS4 be everything Sony told you it was.

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#146 PS4TrumpsXbox1

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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] I say fu7k countries with no Internet. That is American not MS fanboy. You are still locked into the DRM days. Our servicemen can play wherever they want and that's a good thing. As far as Forza goes? Who cares that you have to download a patch. That company always nails it so if they are trying to get a game together to be ready by launch then so be it. The entire generation won't be defined by this patch. Sony already mentioned DRM when the PS3 was announced or around that time. If it comes back in the future it will be both of them. They both had it on their radar.

So your ok with paying 60 dollars for FOrza and its not even a complete game?? So you have to pay an extra 60 bucks for gold to play the entire game? So a 60 dollar game now costs you 120? That is not american is xbot fanboyism. You do realize there are areas in the country that dont have good wiring to allow for a reliable internet connection right? Its not just other countries. In regards to these countries why are you ok with them not being able to play, everyone should be able to enjoy the system, you are sounding more and more like Mattrick (just buy a 360). Those people can play a Wii U or ps4 out of the box why not Xone? If drm come back (not if, when) both systems will do it????? Sony has shown no intention of this, they have provided beneft after benefit for the consumer. While MS has aleinated their fanbase from day one, so I dont see your rationale in stating if (agian not if but when) drm comes back that sony will be involved in this. Especially since their games can be played offline and MS has games like FOrza that requires online

I am payed up for the year for XBL and the $60 gets me a lot more than just playing Forza, so your math is biased. Oh and provide benefit after benefit? Look at this history of lies. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25247543

First of all my math isnt biased its fact. You already paying for gold is irrelevant, what is relevant is that people have to pay 120 dollars to experience Forza while playstion players only need to pay 50 dollars or 60 dollars (depending on what version they play, retail or ps plus) to play a just as good game in drive club (no online bs needed). Secondly your showing me a link from last generation, yes sony made a lot of mistakes with their ps3 launch but they have learned from them and made the launch for ps4 a lot better, if anything MS is making those same mistakes with the drm crap they initially wanted to impose. You do know only about 60 percent of xbox 360 (out of that 77 million units sold or so) have gold so not everyone is interested in online play (but you dont care right, that not you right?lol) This is the majoriy attititude of xbox fanboys and its a mindset that will ruin the gaming industry. Most xbots come up with thse crazy justifications that just make no sense and have no merit. Oh right I forgot to mention, you get more for gold right? Like IE, skype, netflix and other apps right all things that are free on PS

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So stable 30fps confirmed now then?

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#149 FoxbatAlpha

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[QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"][QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="PS4TrumpsXbox1"] So your ok with paying 60 dollars for FOrza and its not even a complete game?? So you have to pay an extra 60 bucks for gold to play the entire game? So a 60 dollar game now costs you 120? That is not american is xbot fanboyism. You do realize there are areas in the country that dont have good wiring to allow for a reliable internet connection right? Its not just other countries. In regards to these countries why are you ok with them not being able to play, everyone should be able to enjoy the system, you are sounding more and more like Mattrick (just buy a 360). Those people can play a Wii U or ps4 out of the box why not Xone? If drm come back (not if, when) both systems will do it????? Sony has shown no intention of this, they have provided beneft after benefit for the consumer. While MS has aleinated their fanbase from day one, so I dont see your rationale in stating if (agian not if but when) drm comes back that sony will be involved in this. Especially since their games can be played offline and MS has games like FOrza that requires online

I am payed up for the year for XBL and the $60 gets me a lot more than just playing Forza, so your math is biased. Oh and provide benefit after benefit? Look at this history of lies. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/25247543

First of all my math isnt biased its fact. You already paying for gold is irrelevant, what is relevant is that people have to pay 120 dollars to experience Forza while playstion players only need to pay 50 dollars or 60 dollars (depending on what version they play, retail or ps plus) to play a just as good game in drive club (no online bs needed). Secondly your showing me a link from last generation, yes sony made a lot of mistakes with their ps3 launch but they have learned from them and made the launch for ps4 a lot better, if anything MS is making those same mistakes with the drm crap they initially wanted to impose. You do know only about 60 percent of xbox 360 (out of that 77 million units sold or so) have gold so not everyone is interested in online play (but you dont care right, that not you right?lol) This is the majoriy attititude of xbox fanboys and its a mindset that will ruin the gaming industry. Most xbots come up with thse crazy justifications that just make no sense and have no merit.

MS has mistakes and Sony had lies. Which one is worse. MS has been upfront about all that is going on. You are a typical cow. Sony can do no wrong in your eyes. You are in for more lies and bigger ones from you beloved Sony. This conversation is about void. You don't see me and I don't see you. We should just go into OT next time and talk about girls underwear.

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Xbox just cant get out of the news. I think this is a good thing to be honest. Cows cant stop talking about them IE Damien, xboxiphone, tormentos, etc. Goes to show you they are nervous. This new is great news for XBO owners. deal with it

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