[QUOTE="PS3Fanaddict"][QUOTE="enygma500"]How is it twisted?
did MS have wireless controllers standar or not?
do they build in wifi or not?
do they charge a fee to use your own internet connection which you already pay for or not?
Live is just M$ way of nickel and diming you to death without you even realising it...and it's working. it's the same as this rubbish DLC that's been comming around. alt costumes for SF4? VS mode in RE5? added difficulties in megaman 9? all complete rubbish.
Here's the FACTS. people say for playing game and only playing games the 360 is cheaper right? wrong! not in my case anyways. when i think of playing games i think i of playing online. thus and online fee would be a justified addition to the cost of the console. for the people who do NOT play online, yes it's cheaper. BUT online play is the new big thing with console gaming. all new games REVOLVE around their online portions. therefore online play is obviously important and thus the cost of playing online is relevant. the only one who can argue these FACTS are lemmings.
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uber pwnage No, that is twisting. The fact is that a 360 is $200 at lowest. The PS3 is $400 at lowest. Adding crap is twisting reality, no matter what you want to call it. People acting like Bill O'Reilly......You must be a closet lemming. I twisted nothing. the TC obviously went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy overboard. but every arguement in my post was simple fact. there's no way to argue it. developers are building their games around online capability right now. to get the most out of any game these days, in some cases to even play the game you NEED to connect to the net.and to connect to XBL you need to spend $60 a year...where i live. Im the rtype of person to look at the big picture. in the end the 360 will cost more then the ps3. its just that a bunch of small payment always hurt less then 1 big payment.
as for inculding a laptop and all that other garbage, those4 are just simple everyday thing i would have baught anyways. TC is full of fail.I still think wifi should be standard in the 360, would i use it, no. i prefere to connect with cables. so i would save the $80 or whatever the wifi thing costs. I understand the "you have a choice" arguement. but when it comes down to the GAMES. where it matters, the 360 will be more expensive over time if you want to get the full experience. bottom line.
Don't get me wrong, PS3 has it's faults...but this thread is about the 360 so im gonna stay there...for now.
Also I just want to make it clear. i DO NOT own a 360. I own a PS3 and a wii...wlthough i wish i spent the wii money on a 360...lol, even if it did RRoD at least it would get used more that that paper weight. I usually forget i even own a wii. the controllers haven't even been at my house for almost a year now. anyways i have 3 friends with 360 and all of them have had at least 2 RRoD each. in my eyes, thats over a %200 defect rate. and i choose to not buy a crappy made console. the games look amazing, but i can just borrow a 360 and rent a game if i want to play it that badly.
The only exclusive i was really missing was NG 2. but now im getting it in the fall, yay.
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