Xbox 360 loses another exclusive- Tales of Vesperia

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#101 jonnyt61
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Wow and ouch.What's next to make the jump to ps3 ?

HuusAsking

Mass Effect and Ace Combat.

How will Mass Effect jump when Microsoft has #1 locked? #2 and #3 won't make sense without one (as it's a trilogy), and jumping withing a generation would be considered idiotic. As for Ace Combat, I don't think the cost of a port will justify any sales at this point, considering its age.

You mean how NG2 was guaranteed exclusive? MS published that too, as far as I know.

I imagine there will be a similar sort of gig with ME, as there's been so many times they could have crushed the idea, and they've refused to say "No, it's not coming"

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#102 xxThyLordxx
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Wow and ouch.What's next to make the jump to ps3 ?

HuusAsking
Mass Effect and Ace Combat.

How will Mass Effect jump when Microsoft has #1 locked? #2 and #3 won't make sense without one (as it's a trilogy), and jumping withing a generation would be considered idiotic. As for Ace Combat, I don't think the cost of a port will justify any sales at this point, considering its age.

whay do you mean by MS has #1 locked? because they also has Ninja Gaiden 2 locked, also has Vampire Rain locked, etc
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#103 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"] Mass Effect and Ace Combat.

How will Mass Effect jump when Microsoft has #1 locked? #2 and #3 won't make sense without one (as it's a trilogy), and jumping withing a generation would be considered idiotic. As for Ace Combat, I don't think the cost of a port will justify any sales at this point, considering its age.

You mean how NG2 was guaranteed exclusive? MS published that too, as far as I know. I imagine there will be a similar sort of gig with ME, as there's been so many times they could have crused the idea, and they've refused to say "No, it's not coming"

I believe EA did say, "No, it's not coming." about two months ago. Again, ties to Microsoft and probably money involved, too (IOW, they jump, they lose money).
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#104 MightyMuna
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What if the PS3 ToV comes out in Japan only. Would that still count as an lost exclsuive?

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yes and no, but does it matter?

honestly, I wish Yakuza 3 was not Japan-only.

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#105 MightyMuna
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]How will Mass Effect jump when Microsoft has #1 locked? #2 and #3 won't make sense without one (as it's a trilogy), and jumping withing a generation would be considered idiotic. As for Ace Combat, I don't think the cost of a port will justify any sales at this point, considering its age.HuusAsking
You mean how NG2 was guaranteed exclusive? MS published that too, as far as I know. I imagine there will be a similar sort of gig with ME, as there's been so many times they could have crused the idea, and they've refused to say "No, it's not coming"

I believe EA did say, "No, it's not coming." about two months ago. Again, ties to Microsoft and probably money involved, too (IOW, they jump, they lose money).

no. they never said "its not coming", they gave a "no comment" when asked again, they said, "we have nothing to announce at this time yet" or something like that. seriously, people need to realize that, if it is not first party(I mean developed internally or own the ip) then it has a very good chance of going multi, this gen, nothing is certain.
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#106 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

What if the PS3 ToV comes out in Japan only. Would that still count as an lost exclsuive?

MightyMuna

yes and no, but does it matter?

honestly, I wish Yakuza 3 was not Japan-only.

Well if was Japan only. Similar to Tales of Symphonia. It would be pretty hard to play if you import it. Because it may be only in Japanese, and you kinda need to know what they are saying to understand a RPG.

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#107 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"] You mean how NG2 was guaranteed exclusive? MS published that too, as far as I know. I imagine there will be a similar sort of gig with ME, as there's been so many times they could have crused the idea, and they've refused to say "No, it's not coming"MightyMuna
I believe EA did say, "No, it's not coming." about two months ago. Again, ties to Microsoft and probably money involved, too (IOW, they jump, they lose money).

no. they never said "its not coming", they gave a "no comment" when asked again, they said, "we have nothing to announce at this time yet" or something like that. seriously, people need to realize that, if it is not first party(I mean developed internally or own the ip) then it has a very good chance of going multi, this gen, nothing is certain.

But that's what I'm talking about. Didn't Microsoft pay Bioware for Mass Effect (IOW, they may actually have claim on the IP)? Exchange of money means if they jump, they breach contract...and lose the money. And the contract was inked before the EA buyout so it must still be honored (standard contract laws). So the question you have to ask yourself is...does EA think it can recoup any money they'd have to pay back Microsoft for breach of contract if they take the plunge and go multi? After all, being a trilogy, having 2 & 3 won't make sense without 1. And many people have one console and no PC, so it must be all or nothing.

Here, explain this.

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#108 stayhigh1
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Now they have to release Star Ocean and Mass Effect and Gears to the PS3 and the 360 will be nothing..

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#109 HuusAsking
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Now they have to release Star Ocean and Mass Effect and Gears to the PS3 and the 360 will be nothing..

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Star Ocean will probably come along some time later. As for Mass Effect, the legalities are unclear.
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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]I believe EA did say, "No, it's not coming." about two months ago. Again, ties to Microsoft and probably money involved, too (IOW, they jump, they lose money).HuusAsking
no. they never said "its not coming", they gave a "no comment" when asked again, they said, "we have nothing to announce at this time yet" or something like that. seriously, people need to realize that, if it is not first party(I mean developed internally or own the ip) then it has a very good chance of going multi, this gen, nothing is certain.

But that's what I'm talking about. Didn't Microsoft pay Bioware for Mass Effect? Exchange of money means if they jump, they breach contract...and lose the money. And the contract was inked before the EA buyout so it must still be honored (standard contract laws). So the question you have to ask yourself is...does EA think it can recoup any money they'd have to pay back Microsoft for breach of contract if they take the plunge and go multi? After all, being a trilogy, having 2 & 3 won't make sense without 1. And many people have one console and no PC, so it must be all or nothing.

you might be right, but do you have any links about your claims? any link about the contract, the FACT is EA OWNS the Mass Effect IP, EA published Mass Effect on PC. no one knows about the contract, only MS, Bioware and EA, as far as I know, details about the contract was never disclosed to the public, so all what your are saying is justspeculationand educated guesses, unless you have a link to back up what you've said, but we'll just have to wait and see.

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#111 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"] no. they never said "its not coming", they gave a "no comment" when asked again, they said, "we have nothing to announce at this time yet" or something like that. seriously, people need to realize that, if it is not first party(I mean developed internally or own the ip) then it has a very good chance of going multi, this gen, nothing is certain.MightyMuna

But that's what I'm talking about. Didn't Microsoft pay Bioware for Mass Effect? Exchange of money means if they jump, they breach contract...and lose the money. And the contract was inked before the EA buyout so it must still be honored (standard contract laws). So the question you have to ask yourself is...does EA think it can recoup any money they'd have to pay back Microsoft for breach of contract if they take the plunge and go multi? After all, being a trilogy, having 2 & 3 won't make sense without 1. And many people have one console and no PC, so it must be all or nothing.

you might be right, but do you have any links about your claims? any link about the contract, the FACT is EA OWNS the Mass Effect IP, EA published Mass Effect on PC. no one knows about the contract, only MS, Bioware and EA, as far as I know, details about the contract was never disclosed to the public, so all what your are saying is justspeculationand educated guesses, unless you have a link to back up what you've said, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Read my edit. The link is only two weeks old. Note that the PS3 was never mentioned in the press release. If they were intent on porting, wouldn't they have announced it at this point to drive up hype?

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#112 MightyMuna
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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"] But that's what I'm talking about. Didn't Microsoft pay Bioware for Mass Effect? Exchange of money means if they jump, they breach contract...and lose the money. And the contract was inked before the EA buyout so it must still be honored (standard contract laws). So the question you have to ask yourself is...does EA think it can recoup any money they'd have to pay back Microsoft for breach of contract if they take the plunge and go multi? After all, being a trilogy, having 2 & 3 won't make sense without 1. And many people have one console and no PC, so it must be all or nothing.HuusAsking

you might be right, but do you have any links about your claims? any link about the contract, the FACT is EA OWNS the Mass Effect IP, EA published Mass Effect on PC. no one knows about the contract, only MS, Bioware and EA, as far as I know, details about the contract was never disclosed to the public, so all what your are saying is justspeculationand educated guesses, unless you have a link to back up what you've said, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Read my edit. The link is only two weeks old. Note that the PS3 was never mentioned in the press release. If they were intent on porting, wouldn't they have announced it at this point to drive up hype?

lol,, dude, but that link is 'weak', their reasons were pretty crap, talking about there is not enough time to port it over, when in fact Bioware is developing Dragon Age for PS3 was we speak, also, the writer too is speculating about the contract, no real solid eveidence, also talks about PS3 selling less software, what does that have to do with ME2? lol. sounds like a fanboy article to me. anyway, the point is, as of now, ME2 is on PC/360 only, whether the franchise will find its way to PS3 in the future is uncertain, like I said, we just have to wait and see. The ONLY point I'm trying to make, is that NEVER SAY NEVER. honestly, 20 years ago, if you told someone that Sonic would end up on a Nintendo console, you probably would have been beaten up and sued, now look at it. I'm not saying its the same situation, is just that, anything and I mean anything can happen. Sony can go bankrupt tomorrow and release all its games on 360, sh&^ happens. lets wait and see. just dont be so certain about it.
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#113 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]

you might be right, but do you have any links about your claims? any link about the contract, the FACT is EA OWNS the Mass Effect IP, EA published Mass Effect on PC. no one knows about the contract, only MS, Bioware and EA, as far as I know, details about the contract was never disclosed to the public, so all what your are saying is justspeculationand educated guesses, unless you have a link to back up what you've said, but we'll just have to wait and see.

MightyMuna

Read my edit. The link is only two weeks old. Note that the PS3 was never mentioned in the press release. If they were intent on porting, wouldn't they have announced it at this point to drive up hype?

lol,, dude, but that link is 'weak', their reasons were pretty crap, talking about there is not enough time to port it over, when in fact Bioware is developing Dragon Age for PS3 was we speak, also, the writer too is speculating about the contract, no real solid eveidence, also talks about PS3 selling less software, what does that have to do with ME2? lol. sounds like a fanboy article to me. anyway, the point is, as of now, ME2 is on PC/360 only, whether the franchise will find its way to PS3 in the future is uncertain, like I said, we just have to wait and see. The ONLY point I'm trying to make, is that NEVER SAY NEVER. honestly, 20 years ago, if you told someone that Sonic would end up on a Nintendo console, you probably would have been beaten up and sued, now look at it. I'm not saying its the same situation, is just that, anything and I mean anything can happen. Sony can go bankrupt tomorrow and release all its games on 360, sh&^ happens. lets wait and see. just dont be so certain about it.

But in terms of this generation, time is running out. In a couple years tops, we'll be seeing new consoles, at which point it probably won't matter much as new things come down the pipe. So if the PS3 wants Mass Effect at all (and like I said, being a trilogy, it's probably going to be all or nothing), they better figure something out...quick.