xbox 360 more expensive than ps3, ps3=better investment

*sigh*

The price comparison thread fad died in 2006 people...Let it go.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="drj077"]

That's the thing, though. In terms of long term committment, the 360 will be cheaper now, but it will devalue faster. The second you take it out of the box, you're out a $100. This isn't true with the PS3. You're right, I can spin this however I want, but this problem is analagous to buying an American-made care right now. You drive it off the lot and it's worth half of what you paid for it. You buy foreign and you don't have that problem. That's why I own a brand new Toyota Corolla.

drj077

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"] Yet .. with all that advance hardware it still being toppled by a gamecube with a weird controller? Awesome. No wonder i got one. We buy a console to play games, i don't care about how much ATI rate it's processor or the aftermarket value of my motherboard. For what's in there, the PS3 is more then worth it, for what it does, it's not/cuddlesofwar

I can tell that you don't consider the inherant value of things and whether or not it will maintain that value when you purchase your electronics. That is something that concerns me and it's the reason why I only buy quality electronics, cars, etc.

There is no such thing as a technology that increases in value anymore. Gone are the days when used consoles accumulated wealth. Only unopened collector's edition boxes of games like MGS4, etc. are capable of that anymore. From the last two generations forward, no system will increase in worth, because the technology updates and upgrades move too fast. However, foreign made systems seem to hold their value far longer.

*sigh*

The price comparison thread fad died in 2006 people...Let it go.

The_Game21x

I'm trying to, but this other person is persistant. Some people like the latest and greatest and are willing to pay a little extra. Others just want the day before todays technology and are comfortable with all the perks that brings to their lives.

That's all I'm trying to say.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="drj077"]

That's the thing, though. In terms of long term committment, the 360 will be cheaper now, but it will devalue faster. The second you take it out of the box, you're out a $100. This isn't true with the PS3. You're right, I can spin this however I want, but this problem is analagous to buying an American-made care right now. You drive it off the lot and it's worth half of what you paid for it. You buy foreign and you don't have that problem. That's why I own a brand new Toyota Corolla.

drj077

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Nonsense. The moment you take any of the consoles out of the box they decrease value. The only reason you'd get more for a PS3 is because it cost more money.cuddlesofwar

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

When the next generation of consoles comes to market, then yes, I likely will sell my PS3, but at least it will still have some worth.

Xbox360 - £130/£170/£230

PS3 - £300

/thread

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="drj077"]

That's the thing, though. In terms of long term committment, the 360 will be cheaper now, but it will devalue faster. The second you take it out of the box, you're out a $100. This isn't true with the PS3. You're right, I can spin this however I want, but this problem is analagous to buying an American-made care right now. You drive it off the lot and it's worth half of what you paid for it. You buy foreign and you don't have that problem. That's why I own a brand new Toyota Corolla.

drj077

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Nonsense. The moment you take any of the consoles out of the box they decrease value. The only reason you'd get more for a PS3 is because it cost more money.The_Game21x

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

It wasn't an arcade. It was an original 360 without the HDMI and without the hard drive, so I apologize there. I pawned and actually got a pretty decent price considering that there were no strings attached and I'm now free from the product of poor American technological achievement.

[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="drj077"]

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

drj077

When the next generation of consoles comes to market, then yes, I likely will sell my PS3, but at least it will still have some worth.

Xbox360 - £130/£170/£230

PS3 - £300

/thread

EuroMafia

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"] Don't sell it then. Do you plan on selling your PS3? Uhhh this argument is at ana ll time low, you ignore it when you're proven wrong, then make some other bull**** point.heretrix

When the next generation of consoles comes to market, then yes, I likely will sell my PS3, but at least it will still have some worth.

Try and sell a used original xbox and see which one you get more money for. Just so you know you'll get about $10-20 more for the PS2

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"] Can i play the ifs and buts?cuddlesofwar

Yes, you can actually. The PS3 has the best multiplayer experience in the forms of R2 and Warhawk along with all the various Tom Clancy games. IT has great RPGs with one of them being highly under-rated in the form of Valkyria Chronicles. It also has what is probably one of the best platformers of this generation with the common opinion being that it a great game with Ratchet and Clank Future Tools of Destruction. The system also has the game with the most diverse story and highest rating with the exception of GTA IV (also on PS3) in the form of MGS4. All other sports games are available. Fallout 3, Oblivion, DeadSpace, Eternal Sonata, etc. are all found on the system. If you honestly can't find something to play with the built in wireless, free online, Blue-tooth capabiltiy and built-in Blu-ray, then you have far worse problems than gaming.

This wall of text adds nothing to the thread. How is WarHawk or R2 better then Halo3? They're not. Simple. No argument. Halo has better support, better community, better events AND is infinately more popular, it's the WoW of Console games. A) It's all subjective. B) Xbox has more diversity. C) Xbox has more, and better games, according to "Popular belief" D) Xbox = £130 PS3 = $298.

the xbox does not have better games! omg i'm tired of hearing that tell me which games there are on the xbox and i'll match them for the ps3.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="drj077"]

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

drj077

It wasn't an arcade. It was an original 360 without the HDMI and without the hard drive, so I apologize there. I pawned and actually got a pretty decent price considering that there were no strings attached and I'm now free from the product of poor American technological achievement.

You pawned it. You pawned what is equivalent to the original Xbox 360 Core unit and expected to geet a decent return on that? From a pawn shop? Really? :|

Well let's see here...

I've checked Amazon.com and found listings for the Core unit (not the Arcade) and found it selling used for as low as $120 and going up from there to about $170. The $120 system was only as low as it is because the seller listed it as having the RROD. And keep in mind that these are the current prices, prices that probably would've been higher a few months ago before the price drop. So, essentially, you have only yourself to blame for not getting a decent price back as you can clearly see you could've sold it for more on Amazon and Ebay, even getting more than half of the original price back.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="drj077"]

When the next generation of consoles comes to market, then yes, I likely will sell my PS3, but at least it will still have some worth.

drj077

Try and sell a used original xbox and see which one you get more money for. Just so you know you'll get about $10-20 more for the PS2

The PS2 is still in circulation, the Xbox is not. And you only get 10-20 bucks more than a defunct system.

You argument has absolutely no merit at all.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] You do realize Amazon doesn't set the prices for those used systems right? And based on the value you said you got for that Arcade, I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and say you traded it in at GameStop. Am I right?The_Game21x

It wasn't an arcade. It was an original 360 without the HDMI and without the hard drive, so I apologize there. I pawned and actually got a pretty decent price considering that there were no strings attached and I'm now free from the product of poor American technological achievement.

You pawned it. You pawned what is equivalent to the original Xbox 360 Core unit and expected to geet a decent return on that? From a pawn shop? Really? :|

Well let's see here...

I've checked Amazon.com and found listings for the Core unit (not the Arcade) and found it selling used for as low as $120 and going up from there to about $170. The $120 system was only as low as it is because the seller listed it as having the RROD. And keep in mind that these are the current prices, prices that probably would've been higher a few months ago before the price drop. So, essentially, you have only yourself to blame for not getting a decent price back as you can clearly see you could've sold it for more on Amazon and Ebay, even getting more than half of the original price back.

I took that hit on purpose so that A)I wouldn't have to worry about RROD during and immediately after delivery and B)I wanted to wipe my hands clean of the filth that Microsoft has brought to gaming before it breaks and I'm left with nothing.

[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="drj077"]

Yes, you can actually. The PS3 has the best multiplayer experience in the forms of R2 and Warhawk along with all the various Tom Clancy games. IT has great RPGs with one of them being highly under-rated in the form of Valkyria Chronicles. It also has what is probably one of the best platformers of this generation with the common opinion being that it a great game with Ratchet and Clank Future Tools of Destruction. The system also has the game with the most diverse story and highest rating with the exception of GTA IV (also on PS3) in the form of MGS4. All other sports games are available. Fallout 3, Oblivion, DeadSpace, Eternal Sonata, etc. are all found on the system. If you honestly can't find something to play with the built in wireless, free online, Blue-tooth capabiltiy and built-in Blu-ray, then you have far worse problems than gaming.

Titans23

This wall of text adds nothing to the thread. How is WarHawk or R2 better then Halo3? They're not. Simple. No argument. Halo has better support, better community, better events AND is infinately more popular, it's the WoW of Console games. A) It's all subjective. B) Xbox has more diversity. C) Xbox has more, and better games, according to "Popular belief" D) Xbox = £130 PS3 = $298.

the xbox does not have better games! omg i'm tired of hearing that tell me which games there are on the xbox and i'll match them for the ps3.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Go out and try and sell a used PS2 and see what you are going to get for it. You are just making an already lame argument WORSE.heretrix

Try and sell a used original xbox and see which one you get more money for. Just so you know you'll get about $10-20 more for the PS2

The PS2 is still in circulation, the Xbox is not. And you only get 10-20 bucks more than a defunct system.

You argument has absolutely no merit at all.

1)I'm referring to the original PS2

2)That certainly tells you a lot about Sony's products when they can last into a whole new generation of gaming and continue to sell the way the PS2 does now and the PS1 did before.

I've always been a fan of people that try to demerit other peoples arguments by simply claiming that their argument has no merit (/sarcasm). It's pretty the much the total opposite of what a person wants to do in a debate.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="drj077"]

It wasn't an arcade. It was an original 360 without the HDMI and without the hard drive, so I apologize there. I pawned and actually got a pretty decent price considering that there were no strings attached and I'm now free from the product of poor American technological achievement.

drj077

You pawned it. You pawned what is equivalent to the original Xbox 360 Core unit and expected to geet a decent return on that? From a pawn shop? Really? :|

Well let's see here...

I've checked Amazon.com and found listings for the Core unit (not the Arcade) and found it selling used for as low as $120 and going up from there to about $170. The $120 system was only as low as it is because the seller listed it as having the RROD. And keep in mind that these are the current prices, prices that probably would've been higher a few months ago before the price drop. So, essentially, you have only yourself to blame for not getting a decent price back as you can clearly see you could've sold it for more on Amazon and Ebay, even getting more than half of the original price back.

I took that hit on purpose so that A)I wouldn't have to worry about RROD during and immediately after delivery and B)I wanted to wipe my hands clean of the filth that Microsoft has brought to gaming before it breaks and I'm left with nothing.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

You pawned it. You pawned what is equivalent to the original Xbox 360 Core unit and expected to geet a decent return on that? From a pawn shop? Really? :|

Well let's see here...

I've checked Amazon.com and found listings for the Core unit (not the Arcade) and found it selling used for as low as $120 and going up from there to about $170. The $120 system was only as low as it is because the seller listed it as having the RROD. And keep in mind that these are the current prices, prices that probably would've been higher a few months ago before the price drop. So, essentially, you have only yourself to blame for not getting a decent price back as you can clearly see you could've sold it for more on Amazon and Ebay, even getting more than half of the original price back.

thepwninator

I took that hit on purpose so that A)I wouldn't have to worry about RROD during and immediately after delivery and B)I wanted to wipe my hands clean of the filth that Microsoft has brought to gaming before it breaks and I'm left with nothing.

How...American...of you. Of course, I'm aware of the warranty. I purchased it from Microsoft when I bought my 360. B**** all you want. Some of us desire to buy quality so we never have to...ever.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="drj077"]

It wasn't an arcade. It was an original 360 without the HDMI and without the hard drive, so I apologize there. I pawned and actually got a pretty decent price considering that there were no strings attached and I'm now free from the product of poor American technological achievement.

drj077

You pawned it. You pawned what is equivalent to the original Xbox 360 Core unit and expected to geet a decent return on that? From a pawn shop? Really? :|

Well let's see here...

I've checked Amazon.com and found listings for the Core unit (not the Arcade) and found it selling used for as low as $120 and going up from there to about $170. The $120 system was only as low as it is because the seller listed it as having the RROD. And keep in mind that these are the current prices, prices that probably would've been higher a few months ago before the price drop. So, essentially, you have only yourself to blame for not getting a decent price back as you can clearly see you could've sold it for more on Amazon and Ebay, even getting more than half of the original price back.

I took that hit on purpose so that A)I wouldn't have to worry about RROD during and immediately after delivery and B)I wanted to wipe my hands clean of the filth that Microsoft has brought to gaming before it breaks and I'm left with nothing.

:|

Took the hit on purpose eh? Right. So you'd have no reason to blame the Xbox 360 for your failure to try to get an extra return on your investment, right? I mean, I've just proven you could've sold it for more than you did, you just chose not to. Again, you have only yourself to blame. :wink:

I knew I had you pegged as soon as I started talking to you and by uttering the words "filth that Microsoft has brought to gaming" you've just confirmed to me that I'm dealing with a huge (and possibly xenopobic) fanboy. Now I realize that this argument is nothing but an excersize in futility and I bid you good day.

EDIT: Ah, I see you're making negative generalizations about Americans now. This is oh so typical in conversations like these. :lol:

Even though the PS3 debut with at a whopping $599 USD, I agree, the PS3 was a better investment, but luckily I didn't buy it at that price.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="drj077"]

Try and sell a used original xbox and see which one you get more money for. Just so you know you'll get about $10-20 more for the PS2

drj077

The PS2 is still in circulation, the Xbox is not. And you only get 10-20 bucks more than a defunct system.

You argument has absolutely no merit at all.

1)I'm referring to the original PS2

2)That certainly tells you a lot about Sony's products when they can last into a whole new generation of gaming and continue to sell the way the PS2 does now and the PS1 did before.

I've always been a fan of people that try to demerit other peoples arguments by simply claiming that their argument has no merit (/sarcasm). It's pretty the much the total opposite of what a person wants to do in a debate.

1a. It doesn't matter. The PS2 as a system still exists so any software produced for it will work on the original system.

2a. The original Xbox was a much better system hardware wise than the PS2. I can't believe you are trying to make that argument. The first 2 playstations hardware was GARBAGE.

Like I said, no merit at all. But that's ok. I'm done. It's getting impossible to take you seriously after reading some of your posts anyway. Take it easy and no hard feelings.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

You pawned it. You pawned what is equivalent to the original Xbox 360 Core unit and expected to geet a decent return on that? From a pawn shop? Really? :|

Well let's see here...

I've checked Amazon.com and found listings for the Core unit (not the Arcade) and found it selling used for as low as $120 and going up from there to about $170. The $120 system was only as low as it is because the seller listed it as having the RROD. And keep in mind that these are the current prices, prices that probably would've been higher a few months ago before the price drop. So, essentially, you have only yourself to blame for not getting a decent price back as you can clearly see you could've sold it for more on Amazon and Ebay, even getting more than half of the original price back.

The_Game21x

I took that hit on purpose so that A)I wouldn't have to worry about RROD during and immediately after delivery and B)I wanted to wipe my hands clean of the filth that Microsoft has brought to gaming before it breaks and I'm left with nothing.

:|

Took the hit on purpose eh? Right. So you'd have no reason to blame the Xbox 360 for your failure to try to get an extra return on your investment, right? I mean, I've just proven you could've sold it for more than you did, you just chose not to. Again, you have only yourself to blame. :wink:

I knew I had you pegged as soon as I started talking to you and by uttering the words "filth that Microsoft has brought to gaming" you've just confirmed to me that I'm dealing with a huge (and possibly xenopobic) fanboy. Now I realize that this argument is nothing but an excersize in futility and I bid you good day.

EDIT: Ah, I see you're making negative generalizations about Americans now. This is oh so typical in conversations like these. :lol:

I my God, foreign things terrify me!!!. I live in the Midwest of the Good ol' USA. Born in America, raised in America, will be receiving my Doctor of Medicine degree in five months from America. Try again.

Nice talking with you. I do suggest that you work on your interpretative skills, debate skills, and intuition. They all seem to be lacking unfortunately.

Wow you are seriously demented...Are you honestly so biast as to ignore facts, and supplement fact with complete opinion(or lies)?

You say that you can find cables for the ps3 cheaper, and the console for cheap by searching online, but then dismiss someone else using that exact princiable.

You also bought a 360, and you have said that you only buy quality Tech...so what happened?

Also you should be suspended for putting down cultures...its quite pathetic...just as like your arguments...

Please keep posting though, for I enjoy laughing at your complete nonsense.

Maybe because the 360 was out before the PS3, and that gives them more time to make more games. Now if they came out on the same time then this would be a good argument, but they didn't so this argument failed.

koolaidWTF

Preach on my brotha! Next gen doesn't start until Sony says so! Anything out before PS3 doesn't count. So you're right, lemmings enjoying their 360's and getting their games a year in advance of the PS3 is complete failure and unfair. If you want things to be equal you can't count the 360's first year at all. Its not Sony's fault that MS came out earlier. It doesn't matter what 360 did before PS3 came out only what it did after the PS3 came out.

Wow you are seriously demented...Are you honestly so biast as to ignore facts, and supplement fact with complete opinion(or lies)?

You say that you can find cables for the ps3 cheaper, and the console for cheap by searching online, but then dismiss someone else using that exact princiable.

You also bought a 360, and you have said that you only buy quality Tech...so what happened?

Also you should be suspended for putting down cultures...its quite pathetic...just as like your arguments...

Please keep posting though, for I enjoy laughing at your complete nonsense.

ImportBMWRacer

You mean my culture? I bought a 360 at launch when Microsoft promised quality and when Microsoft still made quality. That is what happened.

I my God, foreign things terrify me!!!. I live in the Midwest of the Good ol' USA. Born in America, raised in America, will be receiving my Doctor of Medicine degree in five months from America. Try again.

Nice talking with you. I do suggest that you work on your interpretative skills, debate skills, and intuition. They all seem to be lacking unfortunately.

LOL LOL LOL...Ugh you are seriously so dense...What a fanboy...Keep attempting to use large words...They show how desperate you really are. Also GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR DOCTORATE FROM AMERICA!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOL

ImportBMWRacer

I my God, foreign things terrify me!!!. I live in the Midwest of the Good ol' USA. Born in America, raised in America, will be receiving my Doctor of Medicine degree in five months from America. Try again.

Nice talking with you. I do suggest that you work on your interpretative skills, debate skills, and intuition. They all seem to be lacking unfortunately.

LOL LOL LOL...Ugh you are seriously so dense...What a fanboy...Keep attempting to use large words...They show how desperate you really are. Also GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR DOCTORATE FROM AMERICA!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOL

You think that I'm using large words. What grade are you in? Because, if it's anything passed 6th grade, you should be ashamed of whatever education you have received, my friend.

Arguing with you stooges, while enlightening, is pretty much the reason why I never post on Gamespot anymore. If you want to do a really fun experiment, take away all cell phones, computers, etc. away from a any given high school class and then have them write a paper. It is rather hilarious to watch the younger generation struggle with grammer, spelling, and the like when they don't have technology as a crutch.

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

drj077

All your arguments have been completely subjective and confined to your case. If you prefer the PS3, that's fine, but you should realize the difference between fact and opinion.

The Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3. Because $200 < $400.

Adding in Wifi, battery packs, and LIVE fees is a way to drive up the price. You don't need any of those things to make it run - Would you feel justified if people went around stating the cost of the PS3 is $00 + HDTV + Sound System?:?

The value of the consoles is completely subjectiv.

Im laughing at your attempt "buddy". Debate Skills, Intuition....lolo attempting to criticize someone and doing a poor job at it. Also lets just take a look at your grammar and pathetic attempts at demeaning someone, and proving a complete lie as fact.

Your biased, and naive. You show us more ,and more your complete lack of understanding. I just dont understand how hard it is to grasp such a simple concept...Take a moment to read this thread, and attempt to understand peoples meaning. Or continue to post nonsense and make me laugh...Lol a degree from America...what an idiot.,

[QUOTE="drj077"]

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

Kickinurass

All your arguments have been completely subjective and confined to your case. If you prefer the PS3, that's fine, but you should realize the difference between fact and opinion.

The Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3. Because $200 < $400.

Adding in Wifi, battery packs, and LIVE fees is a way to drive up the price. You don't need any of those things to make it run - Would you feel justified if people went around stating the cost of the PS3 is $00 + HDTV + Sound System?:?

The value of the consoles is completely subjectiv.

You've simply restated my exact point. For the 360 to run like a PS3 you'd have to to pay more than what you'd just pay for a PS3. That's my whole point. I already have a HDTV and superb surroud system. Those aren't accessories. Those are indulgences. To get pseudo-high def on the 360 you either need Monster analog cables or HDMI.

That's what I've been trying to say. The PS3 currently fits my needs as a gamer and HD enthusiast. The 360 is dated and does not. It's as simple as that.

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"][QUOTE="drj077"]

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

drj077

All your arguments have been completely subjective and confined to your case. If you prefer the PS3, that's fine, but you should realize the difference between fact and opinion.

The Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3. Because $200 < $400.

Adding in Wifi, battery packs, and LIVE fees is a way to drive up the price. You don't need any of those things to make it run - Would you feel justified if people went around stating the cost of the PS3 is $00 + HDTV + Sound System?:?

The value of the consoles is completely subjectiv.

You've simply restated my exact point. For the 360 to run like a PS3 you'd have to to pay more than what you'd just pay for a PS3. That's my whole point. I already have a HDTV and superb surroud system. Those aren't accessories. Those are indulgences. To get pseudo-high def on the 360 you either need Monster analog cables or HDMI.

That's what I've been trying to say. The PS3 currently fits my needs as a gamer and HD enthusiast. The 360 is dated and does not. It's as simple as that.

Im laughing at your attempt "buddy". Debate Skills, Intuition....lolo attempting to criticize someone and doing a poor job at it. Also lets just take a look at your grammar and pathetic attempts at demeaning someone, and proving a complete lie as fact.

Your biased, and naive. You show us more ,and more your complete lack of understanding. I just dont understand how hard it is to grasp such a simple concept...Take a moment to read this thread, and attempt to understand peoples meaning. Or continue to post nonsense and make me laugh...Lol a degree from America...what an idiot.,

ImportBMWRacer

So, you think that an advanced degree from an Accredited American Medical Institution is worthless? That's pretty silly if you ask me.

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

All your arguments have been completely subjective and confined to your case. If you prefer the PS3, that's fine, but you should realize the difference between fact and opinion.

The Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3. Because $200 < $400.

Adding in Wifi, battery packs, and LIVE fees is a way to drive up the price. You don't need any of those things to make it run - Would you feel justified if people went around stating the cost of the PS3 is $00 + HDTV + Sound System?:?

The value of the consoles is completely subjectiv.

You've simply restated my exact point. For the 360 to run like a PS3 you'd have to to pay more than what you'd just pay for a PS3. That's my whole point. I already have a HDTV and superb surroud system. Those aren't accessories. Those are indulgences. To get pseudo-high def on the 360 you either need Monster analog cables or HDMI.

That's what I've been trying to say. The PS3 currently fits my needs as a gamer and HD enthusiast. The 360 is dated and does not. It's as simple as that.

Im laughing at your attempt "buddy". Debate Skills, Intuition....lolo attempting to criticize someone and doing a poor job at it. Also lets just take a look at your grammar and pathetic attempts at demeaning someone, and proving a complete lie as fact.

Your biased, and naive. You show us more ,and more your complete lack of understanding. I just dont understand how hard it is to grasp such a simple concept...Take a moment to read this thread, and attempt to understand peoples meaning. Or continue to post nonsense and make me laugh...Lol a degree from America...what an idiot.,

So, you think that an advanced degree from an Accredited American Medical Institution is worthless? That's pretty silly if you ask me.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

All your arguments have been completely subjective and confined to your case. If you prefer the PS3, that's fine, but you should realize the difference between fact and opinion.

The Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3. Because $200 < $400.

Adding in Wifi, battery packs, and LIVE fees is a way to drive up the price. You don't need any of those things to make it run - Would you feel justified if people went around stating the cost of the PS3 is $00 + HDTV + Sound System?:?

The value of the consoles is completely subjectiv.

Titans23

You've simply restated my exact point. For the 360 to run like a PS3 you'd have to to pay more than what you'd just pay for a PS3. That's my whole point. I already have a HDTV and superb surroud system. Those aren't accessories. Those are indulgences. To get pseudo-high def on the 360 you either need Monster analog cables or HDMI.

That's what I've been trying to say. The PS3 currently fits my needs as a gamer and HD enthusiast. The 360 is dated and does not. It's as simple as that.

Well, then we are in agreement. I was trying to teach that other gentlemen the importance of value and purchasing technology that maintains a sense of value. He didn't understand.

[QUOTE="drj077"][QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"]

Im laughing at your attempt "buddy". Debate Skills, Intuition....lolo attempting to criticize someone and doing a poor job at it. Also lets just take a look at your grammar and pathetic attempts at demeaning someone, and proving a complete lie as fact.

Your biased, and naive. You show us more ,and more your complete lack of understanding. I just dont understand how hard it is to grasp such a simple concept...Take a moment to read this thread, and attempt to understand peoples meaning. Or continue to post nonsense and make me laugh...Lol a degree from America...what an idiot.,

ImportBMWRacer

So, you think that an advanced degree from an Accredited American Medical Institution is worthless? That's pretty silly if you ask me.

How much are you willing to bet? I have $150,000 worth of Medical School, Graduate School, and Undergraduate education debt I need to pay off. You seem like just the sucker to pay that off for me.

Ps3 fanboy.

yet you bought an Xbox 360? and all of a sudden it lost all of its value?...Just pathetic...ImportBMWRacer

You still don't get it, do you?

Ps3 fanboy.

xhizors96

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"][QUOTE="drj077"]

Amazon.com

PS3 80GB New $399.99 Used $380.00

360 Elite 399.99 New $350.0 used

360 Arcade when I bought it was $299.99. I only managed to get $80 for it used.

drj077

All your arguments have been completely subjective and confined to your case. If you prefer the PS3, that's fine, but you should realize the difference between fact and opinion.

The Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3. Because $200 < $400.

Adding in Wifi, battery packs, and LIVE fees is a way to drive up the price. You don't need any of those things to make it run - Would you feel justified if people went around stating the cost of the PS3 is $00 + HDTV + Sound System?:?

The value of the consoles is completely subjectiv.

You've simply restated my exact point. For the 360 to run like a PS3 you'd have to to pay more than what you'd just pay for a PS3. That's my whole point. I already have a HDTV and superb surroud system. Those aren't accessories. Those are indulgences. To get pseudo-high def on the 360 you either need Monster analog cables or HDMI.

That's what I've been trying to say. The PS3 currently fits my needs as a gamer and HD enthusiast. The 360 is dated and does not. It's as simple as that.

So why does the 360 need to run like a PS3? There is no identity crisis, the 360 does fine on it's on. From my perspective, Wifi, Blu-ray and all those fancy technologies in the PS3 drove the price up for little reason. For me, those are accessories that I don't want packaged in my console.

Your point was that the PS3 was undeniably better than the 360, and you stated it like it was a fact. I'm just saying, you need to be a bit more liberal with the IMO and stop trying to speak for everyone else.

Ps3 fanboy.

xhizors96

ME? Well, I did own a 360, but it's sort of hard to be a fanboy, when your system hasn't even come in the mail, yet.

How much are you willing to bet? I have $150,000 worth of Medical School, Graduate School, and Undergraduate education debt I need to pay off. You seem like just the sucker to pay that off for me.

drj077