Xbox 360 with BluRay

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Why would this be such a bad thing? I've seen people say Sony would never allow this, just like I guess Sony wouldn't allow MS or Nintendo to ever use DVD, Sony doesn't own BluRay solely. I guess some PS3 fanboys don't realize this fact. I wouldn't be suprised to see Microsoft or even Nintendo go BluRay next gen if it closes the deal on the format war this gen. By then I guess, BluRay players wil be a lot faster so it will be a lot better for gaming. Ya'lls thoughts?jangojay

Well if sony owns the blu-ray tech then guess what? Sony will be making money off nintendo and MS because they will have to pay them for use of the tech. So that means increased revenue across the board.

sony doesn't own bluray...

Sony does own bluray just like they own UMD and BetaMAx, it is there proprietary format.Lo_Rising

umm no they don't.. they support bluray. difference in supporting and owning.

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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Why would this be such a bad thing? I've seen people say Sony would never allow this, just like I guess Sony wouldn't allow MS or Nintendo to ever use DVD, Sony doesn't own BluRay solely. I guess some PS3 fanboys don't realize this fact. I wouldn't be suprised to see Microsoft or even Nintendo go BluRay next gen if it closes the deal on the format war this gen. By then I guess, BluRay players wil be a lot faster so it will be a lot better for gaming. Ya'lls thoughts?jimhogg

Well if sony owns the blu-ray tech then guess what? Sony will be making money off nintendo and MS because they will have to pay them for use of the tech. So that means increased revenue across the board.

sony doesn't own bluray...

Note the bolded area.

well if they are going to use blu-ray then they will need to pay a licence fee to the blu-ray consortium (though im nto sure if thats for using the tech, or only if they want to use the drive to play movies). i dont think that, legally speaking, sony can actually deny them the rights to use it. as long as MS and ninty pay the necessary fees and the drive meets all necessary blu-ray standards then all would be well. its like MS who cant stop sony from using windows in their PCs as long as sony pays the necessary fees (do remember that although MS and sony are slogging it out in some areas, in others there good business partners).

will they use it? well MS probably will. they will want the 360 to be able to play HD movies so its another tick on the box. the only thing that might stop them is if the download service on live really takes off movie wise. however games will need more storage space next gen so a blu-ray dirve capable of reading multiple layers would probably be up MSs alley.

as for ninty? i havent get a friggin clue to be honest. you kow nintendo, they always do their own thing. i heard that they have invested into R&D in holographic storage so perhaps we will see elements of this research appear on a new disc technology optimized for high speed loading of fragmented. the technology can also hold a crap load of data but i doubt ninty are too concerned about that. or maybe theyll basically make a blu-ray or HD-DVD version of the GC drive. who knows?

Sony wouldn't say no to more money.

If Blu-ray wins, and it probably will, it will make it's way to the next Xbox for sure. The 360? Maybe, probably not though.

umm doesnt SONY basicly own Blu-ray though? i mean they own most of the shares/stocks.mgs_freak91

your right...last time i checked, stock/share holders were OWNERS. when you own stock, you own a peice of that company and you HAVE A SAY IN THAT COMPANY.....thread/

if the 360 does get a blu-ray addon what are the chances "modders" could mod the addon to play ps3 games :shock: jk.. hardly possible..?expanded

It's just as much ownage as Sony computers using Windows.Drukter

Exactly. I'm on a Sony Viao laptop right now and it's running with Microsoft Windows.

Since Walmart with Blu Ray exclusive, I think MS is going to have a blu ray add on in the end.

umm doesnt SONY basicly own Blu-ray though? i mean they own most of the shares/stocks.mgs_freak91

Sony can't say no to MS using Bluray, or they can wave bye-bye to Windows on their Vaio laptops

[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"]umm doesnt SONY basicly own Blu-ray though? i mean they own most of the shares/stocks.dsmccracken

Sony can't say no to MS using Bluray, or they can wave bye-bye to Windows on their Vaio laptops

Well as for this gen, i highly doubt bluray will be implemented on the xbox or wii. Why? well because they would have to recall every wii and xbox to have it fitted which would just cost them more money then it would make them. and if they didnt get it fitted, new games would have to come out in a bluray version and regular version ( ithink they require different- i dont think bluray will run on regular DVD, though not sure) . but as for nextgen, i could see them having it.-HalleR-

[QUOTE="Drukter"]It's just as much ownage as Sony computers using Windows.ReverseCycology

Exactly. I'm on a Sony Viao laptop right now and it's running with Microsoft Windows.

Since Walmart with Blu Ray exclusive, I think MS is going to have a blu ray add on in the end.

The difference to me at least is that sony didn't fight MS but using mac OS and then running to windows when that OS won.

MS is going to have to run to blu-ray now.

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[QUOTE="Drukter"]It's just as much ownage as Sony computers using Windows.jangojay

Exactly. I'm on a Sony Viao laptop right now and it's running with Microsoft Windows.

Since Walmart with Blu Ray exclusive, I think MS is going to have a blu ray add on in the end.

The difference to me at least is that sony didn't fight MS but using mac OS and then running to windows when that OS won.

MS is going to have to run to blu-ray now.

umm doesnt SONY basicly own Blu-ray though? i mean they own most of the shares/stocks.mgs_freak91

Matsushita holds as many patents as Sony does on Blu-Ray.

You also realize that MS VC-1 codec is used on many, many, many Blu Ray discs already...

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[QUOTE="Drukter"]It's just as much ownage as Sony computers using Windows.taker42

Exactly. I'm on a Sony Viao laptop right now and it's running with Microsoft Windows.

Since Walmart with Blu Ray exclusive, I think MS is going to have a blu ray add on in the end.

The difference to me at least is that sony didn't fight MS but using mac OS and then running to windows when that OS won.

MS is going to have to run to blu-ray now.

It's not the fact that they don't own blu-ray it's the fact that they single handly pushed the format, even with MS backing the other one. Sony has proven it's dominence in the electronics industry again.

It's not the fact that they don't own blu-ray it's the fact that they single handly pushed the format, even with MS backing the other one. Sony has proven it's dominence in the electronics industry again.

jangojay

[QUOTE="jangojay"]

It's not the fact that they don't own blu-ray it's the fact that they single handly pushed the format, even with MS backing the other one. Sony has proven it's dominence in the electronics industry again.

taker42

Oh sorry are you implying I'm a cow? Sorry, but sony dominates and has such a big influence in the electronics market they can push a format and make it mainstream... in the end MS is going to use blu-ray discs once again proving Sony's influence. As I previously stated sony achknowledged MS dominence with OS and thus used thiers.. MS on the other thought they could beat sony in the format wars.. well they have failed. That's where the true ownage is.

MS on the other thought they could beat sony in the format wars.. well they have failed. That's where the true ownage is.jangojay

Man you fanboys make me laugh. HD-Dvd is a Microsoft format? Where do you guys get this stuff from?

[QUOTE="jangojay"]MS on the other thought they could beat sony in the format wars.. well they have failed. That's where the true ownage is.gensigns

Man you fanboys make me laugh. HD-Dvd is a Microsoft format? Where do you guys get this stuff from?

Where did I say HD-DVD was thier format? I said they tried to push the format...... and failed, sony has won the format war. Again are you as well assuming I am a cow?

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[QUOTE="jangojay"]MS on the other thought they could beat sony in the format wars.. well they have failed. That's where the true ownage is.jangojay

Man you fanboys make me laugh. HD-Dvd is a Microsoft format? Where do you guys get this stuff from?

Where did I say HD-DVD was thier format? I said they tried to push the format...... and failed, sony has won the format war. Again are you as well assuming I am a cow?

Did Sony try to push Mac OS when they used it on their computers? When they failed did you react the same against them? I think not...

..cow.

ooops made a mistake

the more stores and companies go to blu-ray the more money Sony makes not directly but because of the stock that own of blu ray

so actually microsoft will be paying money

ooops made a mistake

the more stores and companies go to blu-ray the more money Sony makes not directly but because of the stock that own of blu ray

so actually microsoft will be paying money

xflamedemonx

I don't understand some people on here...why wouldn't the 360 have a BluRay add-on?.

I bet most people on here didn't even know that the Sony Viaos comes with Windows Vista.

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[QUOTE="jangojay"]MS on the other thought they could beat sony in the format wars.. well they have failed. That's where the true ownage is.Drukter

Man you fanboys make me laugh. HD-Dvd is a Microsoft format? Where do you guys get this stuff from?

Where did I say HD-DVD was thier format? I said they tried to push the format...... and failed, sony has won the format war. Again are you as well assuming I am a cow?

Did Sony try to push Mac OS when they used it on their computers? When they failed did you react the same against them? I think not...

..cow.

Link please, I haven't ever seen or heard of a sony computer using mac OS and from my understanding none other than mac computers can use it without emulation.

Lol @ thinking I'm a cow.

Never will happen.

NFS102

I didn't want to make a seperate thread for this, so I'll post it here.

http://joblo.com/hd-dvd-a-goner

Seems word on the street is that HDDVD is done for come this March. So why wouldn't MS release a drive for 360? Sony doesn't own Blue-Ray at all, it's not exactly their decision.

[QUOTE="NFS102"]

Never will happen.

Shattered007

Why would this be such a bad thing? I've seen people say Sony would never allow this, just like I guess Sony wouldn't allow MS or Nintendo to ever use DVD, Sony doesn't own BluRay solely. I guess some PS3 fanboys don't realize this fact. I wouldn't be suprised to see Microsoft or even Nintendo go BluRay next gen if it closes the deal on the format war this gen. By then I guess, BluRay players wil be a lot faster so it will be a lot better for gaming. Ya'lls thoughts?dotWithShoes

sony will probably have a new format next-gen though, or even every new gen that comes out.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Why would this be such a bad thing? I've seen people say Sony would never allow this, just like I guess Sony wouldn't allow MS or Nintendo to ever use DVD, Sony doesn't own BluRay solely. I guess some PS3 fanboys don't realize this fact. I wouldn't be suprised to see Microsoft or even Nintendo go BluRay next gen if it closes the deal on the format war this gen. By then I guess, BluRay players wil be a lot faster so it will be a lot better for gaming. Ya'lls thoughts?rowzzr

sony will probably have a new format next-gen though, or even every new gen that comes out.

I don't understand some people on here...why wouldn't the 360 have a BluRay add-on?.

I bet most people on here didn't even know that the Sony Viaos comes with Windows Vista.

sakura_Ex

awesome

Its business, not personal, Microsoft would pay for the rights, like Toshiba will,when it introduces its Blu-Ray player, but it certainly could happen

[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

I don't understand some people on here...why wouldn't the 360 have a BluRay add-on?.

I bet most people on here didn't even know that the Sony Viaos comes with Windows Vista.

crispytheone88

awesome

Its business, not personal, Microsoft would pay for the rights, like Toshiba will,when it introduces its Blu-Ray player, but it certainly could happen

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="NFS102"]

Never will happen.

OhhSnap50893

Anyway, Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray exclusively as many people whould have others believe. It was a colabaration between other compenies (look them up is you really want to know who) but yes, Sony would help there bottem line.

Did people 4get that Microsoft and Toshiba have a contract together to support HD DVD. You just cant break a contract that easy.CubanBlunt

In case you haven't noticed more then a few companies that had a contract with Toshiba over HD DVD exclusiveness also had a stipulation stating the contract could be nullified if the majority of the market sided with Blu Ray. Do you really think a corporation like MS would allow themselves to be stuck with a dead format and not think far enough ahead to give themselves an out in the contract?

[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"]umm doesnt SONY basicly own Blu-ray though? i mean they own most of the shares/stocks.dsmccracken

Sony can't say no to MS using Bluray, or they can wave bye-bye to Windows on their Vaio laptops

yea but if they deny MC blu-ray for the 360 its just business for that division of both companies. but their stil in business in other places, anyways...i dont see MC going with blu-ray (i think they think the future is like digital distribution) and i dont see sony givin blu-ray use to MC cause that wud mean they lose a highlight about their console, but if they did then SONY wud make money. anyways...the 360 doesnt need blu-ray to keep doing good in the console race, look at the Wii its doing great and how much can it do other then play its casual games?

[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"]umm doesnt SONY basicly own Blu-ray though? i mean they own most of the shares/stocks.gensigns

Matsushita holds as many patents as Sony does on Blu-Ray.

You also realize that MS VC-1 codec is used on many, many, many Blu Ray discs already...

yea but is blu-ray we're talking about, not whats in the blu-ray. and SONY does own the majority of stocks when it comes to blu-ray. when ppl think blu-ray they think sony, maybe even ps3.

[QUOTE="NFS102"]

Never will happen.

Shattered007

idk which path would sony stand to make more money?

By licensing the tech or possibly dominating the market with a format and forcing the consumer to buy sony consoles for use of blu-ray games and moves?

So its not so clear cut as u may think i know sony would love to see the xbox out forever. Because thats less compitition so it could go both ways....