Xbox 360 with HD-DVD drive BUILT IN! *look inside* PS3, you've been matched

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#1 Mauser_Loader
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/toshiba-working-on-hd-dvd-xbox-360-312930.php

LOL

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#2 Cedmln
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Nope... 360 HD-DVD=/= PS3 Blu-Ray capabilities. No match.
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#3 dackchaar
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If it were true this would NOT be ownage for lemmings but it would be ownage for cows, since lemmings been spouting out things like "Blu-ray is not needed, for this gen, along with every other 'next-gen' formats" and it'll probably be like 500 dollars, on par with PS3.
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#4 Zero5000X
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Blu-Ray>>>HD-DVD
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#5 chikenfriedrice
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so are games gonna be on HDDVD now? I won't believe it till I hear it direct from M$
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#6 Mandingo101
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will hd dvd even still be alive in early 09?
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#7 Kahuna_1
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HD DVD doesnt even have anything to do with gaming...why people even support it is beyond me..I dont buy movies so I dont care about this useless war, but atleast Blu-ray is used in games.
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#8 Reyes360
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Nope... 360 HD-DVD=/= PS3 Blu-Ray capabilities. No match.Cedmln

lol whatever, Im definitely hyped up about this SKU

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Let's see first they copied Sony's Eye toy, then made an Elite to try and catch PS3, then added HDMI to all 360's like PS3, Now WiFi like PS3, and an HDDVD player. Xbox is the biggest copiers in gaming history.

Pathetic!

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#10 Reyes360
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will hd dvd even still be alive in early 09?Mandingo101

yes it has porn.

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]will hd dvd even still be alive in early 09?Reyes360

yes it has porn.

Porn is irrelevant thanks to the internet.

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Let's see first they copied Sony's Eye toy, then made an Elite to try and catch PS3, then added HDMI to all 360's like PS3, Now WiFi like PS3, and an HDDVD player. Xbox is the biggest copiers in gaming history.

Pathetic!

casey7672

Also the most rushed...

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will hd dvd even still be alive in early 09?Mandingo101
absolutely.

Paramount and Dreamworks just went HD DVD exclusive recently. This will probably continue until both formats are replaced by something superior.

Until then:

Transformers HD DVD FTW.

Planet Earth of Blu-Ray FTW.

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#15 nicenator
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Yep, if thats true, the M$ has just taken over Sony for hypocrisy andscrewing over its consumers. Just when we thought they couldn't splinter theiruserbase any more...
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Yep, if thats true, the M$ has just taken over Sony for hypocrisy andscrewing over its consumers. Just when we thought they couldn't splinter theiruserbase any more...nicenator

lol 360 is mashing the PS3.

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#17 Dreams-Visions
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Blu Ray has won

Games Wont Use it

The XBox is already 3 years in its life cycle

This thing will be UBER expensive

If they do this they are IDIOTS

R-Dot-Yung

Bly-Ray has won nothing

Games won't use it

Xbox can have more SKU's if they believe there's a market for it

This thing will not be uber expensive. Toshiba knows better than that. They'd only do it if the uptick in price is nominal, otherwise, they would be IDIOTS.

It may cost the same price as the high-end PS3...but not a penny more. If they can't get the costs down to match that or come in under it, they won't do it.

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#18 Reyes360
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[QUOTE="casey7672"]

Let's see first they copied Sony's Eye toy, then made an Elite to try and catch PS3, then added HDMI to all 360's like PS3, Now WiFi like PS3, and an HDDVD player. Xbox is the biggest copiers in gaming history.

Pathetic!

Cedmln

Also the most rushed...

also the most played with the best games.

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#19 Kushstrain
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Wouldnt it be dumb if they use it for games doesnt that mean like 11 million users are screwed because they have a Hd-dvd in their system?
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#20 SunLord592
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when this released i personnaly dont seeing this being advertissed as a gaming machine, more of a entertainment hub. because now people can have hd-dvd and a way to stream videos, pics, songs, from your computer with one device. also this could be released under Toshiba, other then MS under the xbox logo. like the panasonic game cube. which i beleive is called panasonic Q
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Funny that you're excited about it. Every Lemming on GS has said "BR isn't needed it's a waste of money", "HDMI isn't needed", "WiFi isn't necessary, if I want it I can just buy an add on". What's next they make rechargable controllers like the PS3 too?

Funny howall PS3's have always come with big HDD, HDMI, BR player, WiFi, rechargable controllers, and very good free online and all Lems do is dismiss all of it as bad or unnecessary. But as soon as it comes to their system they brag how great it is.

Pathetic!

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Yep, if thats true, the M$ has just taken over Sony for hypocrisy andscrewing over its consumers. Just when we thought they couldn't splinter theiruserbase any more...nicenator

who is getting screwed and how?

it won't play games. essentially, they're making it unnecessary for future Xbox owners to have to buy the add-on to play HD DVD movies.

so again...who's getting screwed?

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#23 wok7
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Even though LOL HD-DVD/Blu Ray, 360 is still infinitely better than PS3.
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Funny that you're excited about it. Every Lemming on GS has said "BR isn't needed it's a waste of money", "HDMI isn't needed", "WiFi isn't necessary, if I want it I can just buy an add on". What's next they make rechargable controllers like the PS3 too?

Funny howall PS3's have always come with big HDD, HDMI, BR player, WiFi, rechargable controllers, and very good free online and all Lems do is dismiss all of it as bad or unnecessary. But as soon as it comes to their system they brag how great it is.

Pathetic!

casey7672

None of those things are necessary, for arguments's sake. For consumers who don't want all that crap, guess what? they don't have to buy it. none of those things affects the GAMES in any way, shape or form.

MS is creating more options, and is probably getting paid by Toshiba for this one.

Again...where is the problem.

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[QUOTE="nicenator"]Yep, if thats true, the M$ has just taken over Sony for hypocrisy andscrewing over its consumers. Just when we thought they couldn't splinter theiruserbase any more...Dreams-Visions

who is getting screwed and how?

it won't play games. essentially, they're making it unnecessary for future Xbox owners to have to buy the add-on to play HD DVD movies.

so again...who's getting screwed?

I am. I just bought an elite, and i would have held off if i'd known there would be a HD-DVD model. I would expect this as an early adopter, but the 360 has been out 2 years now.

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Let's see first they copied Sony's Eye toy, then made an Elite to try and catch PS3, then added HDMI to all 360's like PS3, Now WiFi like PS3, and an HDDVD player. Xbox is the biggest copiers in gaming history.

Pathetic!

casey7672
besides sony, yeah they are
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Funny that you're excited about it. Every Lemming on GS has said "BR isn't needed it's a waste of money", "HDMI isn't needed", "WiFi isn't necessary, if I want it I can just buy an add on". What's next they make rechargable controllers like the PS3 too?

Funny howall PS3's have always come with big HDD, HDMI, BR player, WiFi, rechargable controllers, and very good free online and all Lems do is dismiss all of it as bad or unnecessary. But as soon as it comes to their system they brag how great it is.

Pathetic!

casey7672

I doubt games will be on HDDVD's. That will alienate 11-12 million 360 users. Microsoft is not stupid like some of you think. The internal HDDVD drive could just be used for movies instead of having people buy the add on.

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#28 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="nicenator"]Yep, if thats true, the M$ has just taken over Sony for hypocrisy andscrewing over its consumers. Just when we thought they couldn't splinter theiruserbase any more...nicenator

who is getting screwed and how?

it won't play games. essentially, they're making it unnecessary for future Xbox owners to have to buy the add-on to play HD DVD movies.

so again...who's getting screwed?

I am. I just bought an elite, and i would have held off if i'd known there would be a HD-DVD model. I would expect this as an early adopter, but the 360 has been out 2 years now.

If you want HDDVD just buy the add on. It works just as good. If there is an internal HDDVD drive in a new 360 sku then it won't be used for playing games. Games will still be on DVD9's not on HDDVD's. You are in no way screwed cause games will not be on HDDVDs.

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#29 nextgenCurious
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if the 360 games starts coming out in HD DVD then you might as well call it the next xbox
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#30 Dreams-Visions
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all things considered, OP...YOU FAIL.

This in no way matches the PS3. Devs will not put games on HD DVD. That room will not be used for any games to take advatage of.

Consequently, it does not "match" the PS3 when kept in context. But I fully expect the 360 to be marketed as if it will. I would bet many a consumer will be suckered, thinking 360 games are on HD DVD now because the box says "HD DVD" on it.

Consumers are often pretty dumb...it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

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if the 360 games starts coming out in HD DVD...nextgenCurious

Stopped reading right there. They won't.

The end.

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#32 casey7672
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[QUOTE="casey7672"]

Funny that you're excited about it. Every Lemming on GS has said "BR isn't needed it's a waste of money", "HDMI isn't needed", "WiFi isn't necessary, if I want it I can just buy an add on". What's next they make rechargable controllers like the PS3 too?

Funny howall PS3's have always come with big HDD, HDMI, BR player, WiFi, rechargable controllers, and very good free online and all Lems do is dismiss all of it as bad or unnecessary. But as soon as it comes to their system they brag how great it is.

Pathetic!

Dreams-Visions

None of those things are necessary, for arguments's sake. For consumers who don't want all that crap, guess what? they don't have to buy it. none of those things affects the GAMES in any way, shape or form.

MS is creating more options, and is probably getting paid by Toshiba for this one.

Again...where is the problem.

You say this now just like you said all of that wasn't necessary until your system has it, then it's great. When they start using the HD DVD drive to improve games and make them longer then you'll say that it's greater than BR and now the games are way better. You Lems are well known for dissing whatever is great that the PS3 can do and offers its gamers. Then when MS obviously copies Sony and puts the same thing in its xbox's it's great and wonderful.

Nothing's great until it's in a Xbox console, that's what Lems think.

Playstation was first and makes innovative gaming consoles. Then MS came along and copies and/or enhances what Sony has already done in its Playstations. And all their fans sit and criticise Sony all the whileSony isinnovative and MS copies everything they do. Hipocrits is what Lems are!

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]will hd dvd even still be alive in early 09?Dreams-Visions

absolutely.

Paramount and Dreamworks just went HD DVD exclusive recently. This will probably continue until both formats are replaced by something superior.

Until then:

Transformers HD DVD FTW.

Planet Earth of Blu-Ray FTW.

by the time this thing comes out thats around the time their deal ends...
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[QUOTE="nextgenCurious"]if the 360 games starts coming out in HD DVD...Dreams-Visions

Stopped reading right there. They won't.

The end.

how are you so sure? give me some evidence of why they won't be making games in the format of which the system is capable of using

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admire them for trying

but too little too late

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The porn industry will be the deciding factor for the format wars just like the VHS and Betamax days, Sony will just have to reconsider "allowing" the porn industry to use Blu-Ray
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#37 ff7isnumbaone
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/toshiba-working-on-hd-dvd-xbox-360-312930.php

LOL

Mauser_Loader

I love how they cying about sony forcing blueray on poeple and now their happy about MS making a 360 with hddvd. lol ps3 ftw.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="casey7672"]

Funny that you're excited about it. Every Lemming on GS has said "BR isn't needed it's a waste of money", "HDMI isn't needed", "WiFi isn't necessary, if I want it I can just buy an add on". What's next they make rechargable controllers like the PS3 too?

Funny howall PS3's have always come with big HDD, HDMI, BR player, WiFi, rechargable controllers, and very good free online and all Lems do is dismiss all of it as bad or unnecessary. But as soon as it comes to their system they brag how great it is.

Pathetic!

casey7672

None of those things are necessary, for arguments's sake. For consumers who don't want all that crap, guess what? they don't have to buy it. none of those things affects the GAMES in any way, shape or form.

MS is creating more options, and is probably getting paid by Toshiba for this one.

Again...where is the problem.

You say this now just like you said all of that wasn't necessary until your system has it, then it's great. When they start using the HD DVD drive to improve games and make them longer then you'll say that it's greater than BR and now the games are way better. You Lems are well known for dissing whatever is great that the PS3 can do and offers its gamers. Then when MS obviously copies Sony and puts the same thing in its xbox's it's great and wonderful.

Nothing's great until it's in a Xbox console, that's what Lems think.

Playstation was first and makes innovative gaming consoles. Then MS came along and copies and/or enhances what Sony has already done in its Playstations. And all their fans sit and criticise Sony all the whileSony isinnovative and MS copies everything they do. Hipocrits is what Lems are!

There is a difference between "need" and "want".

There is a difference between "necessity" and "desire".

The fundamental question is this: "Can the core Xbox 360 play the games?"

The simple answer to this fundamental question is: "Yes."

That is the bottom line. It's just like my car. I bought a BMW 335xi, with just about all the fixin's. Now, I could have bought a 328i with nothing in it...and you know what? That 328i will still get me everywhere I want to go in style. I didn't *need* anything above the baseline 328i in order to make the car drive. Fact.

Consider that.

As far as console innovation...meh. Everyone copies from everyone else. Attempting to put down one product over another because of copying is like looking down the road with blinders on. Were we to look at Sony's consoles, we'd see a laundry list of things borrowed from Nintendo and Microsoft. Nobody is better than anyone else.

Oh, and I'm not a lem. Just becuase I don't see a problem with this doesn't mean it's time to brand someone a fanboy. You're going to have to deal with the fact that in life, opinions on a particular subject can differ.

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[QUOTE="Mauser_Loader"]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/toshiba-working-on-hd-dvd-xbox-360-312930.php

LOL

ff7isnumbaone

I love how they cying about sony forcing blueray on poeple and now their happy about MS making a 360 with hddvd. lol ps3 ftw.

Because now you're being forced to buy the 360 with HD DVD right? :|

So they phased out the Xbox 360 Core, Premium, Halo Edition, and Elite?

Link?

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#40 The_Crucible
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PS3's been matched? Ha ha ha, so funny. Here's a little difference. Blu-ray is in EVERY PS3 and is/will be used for games. HD-DVD is/will not be standard in every 360, therefore either every 360 owner loses out or the many who bought a 360 without the HD-DVD drive included.

Not to mention the capacity differences in HD-DVD when coompared to blu-ray. HD-DVD will never catch up.

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Bu.. bu... but i thought DVD9 was enough!:cry:
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]will hd dvd even still be alive in early 09?Dreams-Visions

absolutely.

Paramount and Dreamworks just went HD DVD exclusive recently. This will probably continue until both formats are replaced by something superior.

Until then:

Transformers HD DVD FTW.

Planet Earth of Blu-Ray FTW.

...Planet Earth is on HD DVD as well

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#43 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]will hd dvd even still be alive in early 09?adam_1_basic

absolutely.

Paramount and Dreamworks just went HD DVD exclusive recently. This will probably continue until both formats are replaced by something superior.

Until then:

Transformers HD DVD FTW.

Planet Earth of Blu-Ray FTW.

...Planet Earth is on HD DVD as well

Yes, I know. But I bought it for Blu-Ray :P

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#44 Dreams-Visions
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Bu.. bu... but i thought DVD9 was enough!:cry:lusitanogamer
It is. The TC just failed. Horribly.
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#45 Dreams-Visions
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This thread needs to be locked or the TC needs to ammend the topic title because it's causing too much confusion. People are too lazy to read through the thread (Crucible, lucitanogamer, ff7isnumberone, etc.) and are going to keep posting ridiculous comments.
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/toshiba-working-on-hd-dvd-xbox-360-312930.php

LOL

Mauser_Loader

Now, that would be halarious. The thing is that even if this was true, then M$ still can't utilize it in games, because you have 11 million 360's out there that don't have that drive. It's not even legitimate to do that to early adopters. So my guess that even with the HD-DVD drive built in, it won't be utilized for games but only for playing movies, not to mention how expensive that model would be. M$ is doing everything it can to stop the Blue-Ray from destroying the HD-DVD. We'll see if this is true.

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#47 Mandingo101
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The porn industry will be the deciding factor for the format wars just like the VHS and Betamax days, Sony will just have to reconsider "allowing" the porn industry to use Blu-RayGP1mil
i think sony already allows porn on blu ray, i remember hearing about a japanese porn company going blu ray, and of course vivd. also back then there was no internet, now there is.

and me personally, i dont want to see porn in HD regardless. i mean, seriously...
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#48 ball_of_air
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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"][QUOTE="Mauser_Loader"]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/toshiba-working-on-hd-dvd-xbox-360-312930.php

LOL

Dreams-Visions

I love how they cying about sony forcing blueray on poeple and now their happy about MS making a 360 with hddvd. lol ps3 ftw.

Because now you're being forced to buy the 360 with HD DVD right? :|

So they phased out the Xbox 360 Core, Premium, Halo Edition, and Elite?

Link?

1 out of 4 isn't bad.

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I'm sure many MS fans are singing Again by Alice in Chains "Why, why do you slap me in the face? ouch"

If this is true it may be a sign of games coming to HD-DVD which would be awful for anyone who has any SKU before the one with built in HD-DVD. Also, unless it has built in Wifi it doesn't match PS3. I'm glad I spent $600 for everything in one package and if anything this has convinced me not to buy a 360 for another year or two.
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/toshiba-working-on-hd-dvd-xbox-360-312930.php

LOL

Mauser_Loader

haha..this funny like hell...i remember sony getting drilled by lemming about blue ray..and now microosoft wants hddvd in the xbox360..damn microsoft left 12 million early adopter with tards pack..they keep on upgrading it bettter with different skus...while sony give us the complete elite expericne from the start..microsoft owned you lemmings..

Also with all the sku out there for the 360 none of is reliable..:lol: