Oh Shadow, you aren't even trying anymore.foxhound_fox
I have carte blanch on being called Shadow around here. :P
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] Is that not down to personal preferance though, rather than a gaming standard? I find it hard to go back to PS1 FF games that I used to love, they are an eyesore, but that doesnt diminish the quality of a game, be it good, or not. I dont believe any standard exists that matters more than if a game is simply good, or not. This is regardless of technical merits, and I thank the gods thats the case every day, if it wasnt, then gaming would truely be dead. BibiMaghoo
It's a comparitive thing, not an absolute thing. If the only FPS game I ever played was Goldeneye on N64 then yeah I'd still love it. But after playing Perfect Dark, then on PS2 games like Timesplitters, Black, Half Life etc, and then on 360 playing Bioshock, COD4, Halo 3, etc, Goldeneye is complete rubbish to go back to.
I guess you could say that's just my preference, but to me it's like gaming is a constant pursuit of better experiences. Stuff that is amazing today will be outdone in a few years, and that stuff will also be outdone someday. Gaming is still evolving so much based on tech, there's so much more potential to unlock. Devs are racing ahead and outdoing each other constantly, it's mental.
I don't see it as sad or bad that todays games will probably be mostly forgotten in 10 years, I see it as a positive that the games of the future will be so much better :)
But is GoldenEye 64, at this time, a worse game than it was when it was released? is the game, actualy worse? I dont believe it is, I believe it is still that same quality, playable game that was released almost 15 years ago. Time doesnt degrade how good a game is, only what you expect from your money, or hardware. Goldeneye is still Goldeneye but gaming has moved on and standards have vastly raised. If released today Goldeneye would get 2/10 for ugly graphics, bad framerate, rubbish AI, midi music, no voices, etc. It's not Goldeneye's fault, it's just things have improved all round and gamers want more. In the same way there was nothing "wrong" with silent movies or black and white TV, yet talkies and colour TV kinda obsolete them :)[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] What are you talking about???? When did I say less than 10% hardly is a high amount??themajormayorare you dense? I AM SAYING that less than 10% is hardly a 'high amount' of screen tearing, you saying the game only has 8% screen tearing and then saying it's a 'high amount' is the contradiction,digital foundry never even stated it has a 'high amount' of screen tearing,they said it onlt tears when the engine i put under strain, when the engine is put under strain the Ps3's framerate drops to 20FPS or below, the 360 maintains 25FPS+ in this scenario but with screen tearing because the V-sync disengages to keep the framerate up to avoid input lag " the tearing we see is a worthwhile trade-off in order to preserve controller response, which would have otherwise been impacted by lower frame-rate refresh." " This is not an ideal situation on either platform, of course, but in terms of sheer playability stemming from sharper controller response, the 360 version is clearly the one optimised best for most situations. The tearing is indeed aggressive at these points, and that can understandably be off-putting for some players (and may well influence your purchase). However, there's more to be gained in translating the player's inputs to the game without delay than what is ultimately lost here in image quality. " so in other words, screen tearing is better than input lag from lower framerates which means,using logic, that the 360 version is more playable as it does not suffer from any input lag. So I am contradicting myself because YOU have a different opinion on what is a high amount? Oh what a coincidence that DF didn't even give us the averages. Cause if they would have done so we would know that the average difference in FPS is only 2.5 whereas the screen tearing is 8%! So using logic I rather have a small unnoticeable difference in FPS than the huge amount of 8% screen tearing! I have skyrim now on PS3 and even the screen tearing you see in youtube videos is much worse than anything I've seen on my PS3
really, are cows...well ps3 fanboys, really so dense? i mean simple logic you dispute to blatant evidence. is there no low you will go to to try and twist things to a win for Sony? seriously there is no point in talking to a fanboy unless you want to insult them because they're r relentless with their ignorance and will say the stupidest nonsense to support their system...even if the facts r right there in their face.
i realized it a while...there really is no point unless ur bored or feel like cracking jokes about them. because like this guy there will be no rational meeting of the minds or discussion...truth just given to him and he disputes it with **** he just made up in his head while sitting at his desk. its hard to believe people have actually turned into this over a video game console.
[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="locopatho"]But is GoldenEye 64, at this time, a worse game than it was when it was released? is the game, actualy worse? I dont believe it is, I believe it is still that same quality, playable game that was released almost 15 years ago. Time doesnt degrade how good a game is, only what you expect from your money, or hardware. Goldeneye is still Goldeneye but gaming has moved on and standards have vastly raised. If released today Goldeneye would get 2/10 for ugly graphics, bad framerate, rubbish AI, midi music, no voices, etc. It's not Goldeneye's fault, it's just things have improved all round and gamers want more. In the same way there was nothing "wrong" with silent movies or black and white TV, yet talkies and colour TV kinda obsolete them :)It's a comparitive thing, not an absolute thing. If the only FPS game I ever played was Goldeneye on N64 then yeah I'd still love it. But after playing Perfect Dark, then on PS2 games like Timesplitters, Black, Half Life etc, and then on 360 playing Bioshock, COD4, Halo 3, etc, Goldeneye is complete rubbish to go back to.
I guess you could say that's just my preference, but to me it's like gaming is a constant pursuit of better experiences. Stuff that is amazing today will be outdone in a few years, and that stuff will also be outdone someday. Gaming is still evolving so much based on tech, there's so much more potential to unlock. Devs are racing ahead and outdoing each other constantly, it's mental.
I don't see it as sad or bad that todays games will probably be mostly forgotten in 10 years, I see it as a positive that the games of the future will be so much better :)
locopatho
Im not so sure the argument of ''if it was released now'' is so fool proof. If you remove goldeneye 64 from history, and released it now as a DD title, do you think it would score 2/10? I really hope that wouldnt be the case, especially when goldeneye did so much for the shooters we have today. By suggesting a title was released now, you have to then suggest it wasnt released at the time, and that changes peoples expectations at the present time dramatically, and in a way we couldnt imagine. Even more so with a game like goldeneye.
You say yourself though, ''gamers want more'' . But I think what gamers want are good games, first and foremost, above all things. This can be proven somewhat, with titles that are released that dont have all the bells and whistles of uber textures, and yet sell copies and are highly rated.
As to old tech and movies. I would point out that some of the most highly rated movies of all time are black and white movies. The quality of them high enough to be counted as such today, based on todays 'standard' of film quality.
A game being good is the ulitmate priority of what it has set out to achieve. If games are not measured on this standard first, then we are in for a lifetime of games that play like garbage but are super shiny. That is not good.
[QUOTE="superapo"]Battlefield 3, LA Noire, Portal 2, SkyrimThere are quite a few games that play significantly better on 360 such as Borderlands, Fallout 3, and Skyrim. I can't think of one multiplat that runs smoother on PS3 then on 360.
themajormayor
Skyrim runs better on 360, I know because I played on both systems.
[QUOTE="woodenfork21"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] oh here he is, the biggest ex-PS3 fanboy on the site hahaha. if UC3 AAA editors choice had won GOTY, you'd be all over these threads, but now you are hiding behind the PC again, hilarious dude.sts106matyea, the guy is a joke...completely worthless, no integrity. this is a ps3 fanboy of such large proportions, he claimed to have bought two copies of uc3, one to play, the other to put in a blooming timecapsule lol. oh nah nah nah nah nah...the guy was always PC first. ur trying to do a jedi lemming mind trick on me.
to believe wat ur saying he'd have to be hiding behind PC just to 1up the 360. not even cows would go that low...him coming into every single thread for months and months now saying how the 360 has no exclusives and a ps3 has a ton was just him taking a break from playing all his pc exclusives to screw with the lems. the guy is totally legit. i don't know when he actually plays all these exclusives he brags on since he's in damn near every thread shouting his lame one-liners he thinks r clever against the 360 and anyone promoting it...but when he does play i'm sure its always with a keyboard n mouse. except when he's playing one of those 2 copies of uncharted 3....
*sarcasm* the guy is a ***k and a tool.
[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="Heil68"]It's funny to see consolites argue over who has the best multi plats when completely ignoring PC, it's cute. ^_^woodenfork21oh here he is, the biggest ex-PS3 fanboy on the site hahaha. if UC3 AAA editors choice had won GOTY, you'd be all over these threads, but now you are hiding behind the PC again, hilarious dude. yea, the guy is a joke...completely worthless, no integrity. Why u mad? You must only have a 360.
Here is a list of multiplats that are noticeably better on 360
- GTA4
- RDR
- Fallout 3
- Fallout New Vegas
- Borderlands
- Skyrim
- Bayonetta
All the others have such miniscule differences that they shouldn't even be noted
BPoole96
GTA 4???
Im not so sure the argument of ''if it was released now'' is so fool proof. If you remove goldeneye 64 from history, and released it now as a DD title, do you think it would score 2/10? I really hope that wouldnt be the case, especially when goldeneye did so much for the shooters we have today. By suggesting a title was released now, you have to then suggest it wasnt released at the time, and that changes peoples expectations at the present time dramatically, and in a way we couldnt imagine. Even more so with a game like goldeneye.
You say yourself though, ''gamers want more'' . But I think what gamers want are good games, first and foremost, above all things. This can be proven somewhat, with titles that are released that dont have all the bells and whistles of uber textures, and yet sell copies and are highly rated.
As to old tech and movies. I would point out that some of the most highly rated movies of all time are black and white movies. The quality of them high enough to be counted as such today, based on todays 'standard' of film quality.
A game being good is the ulitmate priority of what it has set out to achieve. If games are not measured on this standard first, then we are in for a lifetime of games that play like garbage but are super shiny. That is not good.
BibiMaghoo
I'm afraid so. The game is more or less junk when compared to today's FPS games. I respect the game for what it did, and loved it and played it for years. But it's time has passed. There are certain games like Mario World for example, that play pretty much perfectly and will always be awesome. But most games have problems/areas for improvement.
Gamers wanting more doesn't just mean shiny graphics. If we compare Halo Reach for example to Goldeneye, the graphics and sound obviously are worlds apart, but also the framerate is much better, the control is more fluent, the enemies have miles better AI, there's more of them on screen, physics causes wacky stuff to happen (explosion sends debris flying and kills an enemy half way across the map), the levels are bigger, the draw distance is better, there are more vehicles and paths to take, there's dedicated buttons for grenades and melee as opposed to awkwardly switching, and so on.
There's a difference between "good for it's time" and "good forever". The standard of what we consider "good" DOES change very much as time goes on, tech improves and devs get more creative.
lol you lems can keep tyring to run from this, but you can't. I swithced from xbox to PS3 and the ONLY multiplat I saw a difference in was Splinter Cell Double Agent, the frame rate was better on xbox. But the PS3 version had extra content and more detail in graphics so it evens out, I don't notice in Fallout 3 (after patch) or RDR or Oblivion. I know Oblivion was "better" on PS3 but I still didn't see it. You guys can keep trying to convince yourself that you see a difference, because we ALL know you don't either.
But let's compare exclusives shall we? Halo vs Killzone, which looks better? The answer is obviously Killzone. Let's look at Gears an Uncharted, obviously Uncharted. I'm not saying Halo and Gears are bad, I think they are good series. But PS3 exclusives mop the floor with 360 exclusives, if you want to compare multiplats well let's compare exclusives where there is a REAL difference.
Oh and I am 90 hours in Skyrim with a 12MB save file and still no lag, only framerate drops that happens to me is when I first enter a town. But it only lasts a few minutes. And besides they just had an update that probably fixed it, I have a friend who was having issues but now since the update he isn't. Plus it's not like the 360 version is perfect, it has a ton of issues.
Multiplats are basically the same, exclusives there is a real difference in quality and PS3 takes the crown.
lol you lems can keep tyring to run from this, but you can't. I swithced from xbox to PS3 and the ONLY multiplat I saw a difference in was Splinter Cell Double Agent, the frame rate was better on xbox. But the PS3 version had extra content and more detail in graphics so it evens out, I don't notice in Fallout 3 (after patch) or RDR or Oblivion. I know Oblivion was "better" on PS3 but I still didn't see it. You guys can keep trying to convince yourself that you see a difference, because we ALL know you don't either.
But let's compare exclusives shall we? Halo vs Killzone, which looks better? The answer is obviously Killzone. Let's look at Gears an Uncharted, obviously Uncharted. I'm not saying Halo and Gears are bad, I think they are good series. But PS3 exclusives mop the floor with 360 exclusives, if you want to compare multiplats well let's compare exclusives where there is a REAL difference.
Oh and I am 90 hours in Skyrim with a 12MB save file and still no lag, only framerate drops that happens to me is when I first enter a town. But it only lasts a few minutes. And besides they just had an update that probably fixed it, I have a friend who was having issues but now since the update he isn't. Plus it's not like the 360 version is perfect, it has a ton of issues.
Multiplats are basically the same, exclusives there is a real difference in quality and PS3 takes the crown.
ShadowMoses900
Gears 3 looks a generation better than Uncharted3 jaggied and mediocre picture quality actually
Also games like RDR, Crysis 1-2 and Skyrim have a huge difference, on PS3 is like a huge blur is covering the eyes, which is like having half the 360 resolution or worst
[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]
Im not so sure the argument of ''if it was released now'' is so fool proof. If you remove goldeneye 64 from history, and released it now as a DD title, do you think it would score 2/10? I really hope that wouldnt be the case, especially when goldeneye did so much for the shooters we have today. By suggesting a title was released now, you have to then suggest it wasnt released at the time, and that changes peoples expectations at the present time dramatically, and in a way we couldnt imagine. Even more so with a game like goldeneye.
You say yourself though, ''gamers want more'' . But I think what gamers want are good games, first and foremost, above all things. This can be proven somewhat, with titles that are released that dont have all the bells and whistles of uber textures, and yet sell copies and are highly rated.
As to old tech and movies. I would point out that some of the most highly rated movies of all time are black and white movies. The quality of them high enough to be counted as such today, based on todays 'standard' of film quality.
A game being good is the ulitmate priority of what it has set out to achieve. If games are not measured on this standard first, then we are in for a lifetime of games that play like garbage but are super shiny. That is not good.
locopatho
Gamers wanting more doesn't just mean shiny graphics. If we compare Halo Reach for example to Goldeneye, the graphics and sound obviously are worlds apart, but also the framerate is much better, the control is more fluent, the enemies have miles better AI, there's more of them on screen, physics causes wacky stuff to happen (explosion sends debris flying and kills an enemy half way across the map), the levels are bigger, the draw distance is better, there are more vehicles and paths to take, there's dedicated buttons for grenades and melee as opposed to awkwardly switching, and so on.
Everything you have listed in that para is superficial to the game being good, by that I mean playable. All of it without exception.
I guess we just want different things from games then. I want them to be playable, I dont need a game to have better framerates, better ai, physics, explosions and mega draw distances for a game to be good. Its sauce on a good steak, much better than sauce on a poor one.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol you lems can keep tyring to run from this, but you can't. I swithced from xbox to PS3 and the ONLY multiplat I saw a difference in was Splinter Cell Double Agent, the frame rate was better on xbox. But the PS3 version had extra content and more detail in graphics so it evens out, I don't notice in Fallout 3 (after patch) or RDR or Oblivion. I know Oblivion was "better" on PS3 but I still didn't see it. You guys can keep trying to convince yourself that you see a difference, because we ALL know you don't either.
But let's compare exclusives shall we? Halo vs Killzone, which looks better? The answer is obviously Killzone. Let's look at Gears an Uncharted, obviously Uncharted. I'm not saying Halo and Gears are bad, I think they are good series. But PS3 exclusives mop the floor with 360 exclusives, if you want to compare multiplats well let's compare exclusives where there is a REAL difference.
Oh and I am 90 hours in Skyrim with a 12MB save file and still no lag, only framerate drops that happens to me is when I first enter a town. But it only lasts a few minutes. And besides they just had an update that probably fixed it, I have a friend who was having issues but now since the update he isn't. Plus it's not like the 360 version is perfect, it has a ton of issues.
Multiplats are basically the same, exclusives there is a real difference in quality and PS3 takes the crown.
loosingENDS
Gears 3 looks a generation better than Uncharted3 jaggied and mediocre picture quality actually
Also games like RDR, Crysis 1-2 and Skyrim have a huge difference, on PS3 is like a huge blur is covering the eyes, which is like having half the 360 resolution or worst
Gears 3 looks pretty good but it doesn't even come close to Uncharted 3 or Killzone ect... sorry but 360 doesn't have exclsuives that can match the PS3. You can keep your invisible differences in multiplats because I don't care about that. I care about exclusives and guess what? The 360 has FAILED in category as of now,no wait that isn't entirely true. You still have kinect exclusives so I guess that counts, but if your not into that then your system doesn't have anything to offer you besides multiplats that have an invisible difference.
So why not talk about exclusives? You want to claim better multiplats so let's play some exclusives then? You don't want to because you know you'll lose. Really I am laughing at all the lemmings in this thread because they are getting so angry and definsinve about this, don't get angry at me. It's not my fault you didn't buy a PS3 ;)
Oh and I don't see much of a differenve in RDR, some one pointed out to me that there is like 2% more grass on 360 but that's just silly to argue about. I don't care about that, I don't see a difference in resolution in RDR or Skyrim, haven't played Crisis and I don't want to. I have Killzone and COD, so why would I buy Crisis?
Links to fanboy sites don't mean anything. And using DF as a source just makes you look like a desperate xbox fanboy (which you kinda are)...
ShadowMoses900
what's with your meltdown lately shadowmoses? skyrim not working for ya? :lol:
[QUOTE="woodenfork21"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] oh here he is, the biggest ex-PS3 fanboy on the site hahaha. if UC3 AAA editors choice had won GOTY, you'd be all over these threads, but now you are hiding behind the PC again, hilarious dude.Heil68yea, the guy is a joke...completely worthless, no integrity. Why u mad? You must only have a 360.
I owwn a PS3 and a 360, hell even a wii and I think you're a joke
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol you lems can keep tyring to run from this, but you can't. I swithced from xbox to PS3 and the ONLY multiplat I saw a difference in was Splinter Cell Double Agent, the frame rate was better on xbox. But the PS3 version had extra content and more detail in graphics so it evens out, I don't notice in Fallout 3 (after patch) or RDR or Oblivion. I know Oblivion was "better" on PS3 but I still didn't see it. You guys can keep trying to convince yourself that you see a difference, because we ALL know you don't either.
But let's compare exclusives shall we? Halo vs Killzone, which looks better? The answer is obviously Killzone. Let's look at Gears an Uncharted, obviously Uncharted. I'm not saying Halo and Gears are bad, I think they are good series. But PS3 exclusives mop the floor with 360 exclusives, if you want to compare multiplats well let's compare exclusives where there is a REAL difference.
Oh and I am 90 hours in Skyrim with a 12MB save file and still no lag, only framerate drops that happens to me is when I first enter a town. But it only lasts a few minutes. And besides they just had an update that probably fixed it, I have a friend who was having issues but now since the update he isn't. Plus it's not like the 360 version is perfect, it has a ton of issues.
Multiplats are basically the same, exclusives there is a real difference in quality and PS3 takes the crown.
ShadowMoses900
Gears 3 looks a generation better than Uncharted3 jaggied and mediocre picture quality actually
Also games like RDR, Crysis 1-2 and Skyrim have a huge difference, on PS3 is like a huge blur is covering the eyes, which is like having half the 360 resolution or worst
Gears 3 looks pretty good but it doesn't even come close to Uncharted 3 or Killzone ect... sorry but 360 doesn't have exclsuives that can match the PS3. You can keep your invisible differences in multiplats because I don't care about that. I care about exclusives and guess what? The 360 has FAILED in category as of now,no wait that isn't entirely true. You still have kinect exclusives so I guess that counts, but if your not into that then your system doesn't have anything to offer you besides multiplats that have an invisible difference.
So why not talk about exclusives? You want to claim better multiplats so let's play some exclusives then? You don't want to because you know you'll lose. Really I am laughing at all the lemmings in this thread because they are getting so angry and definsinve about this, don't get angry at me. It's not my fault you didn't buy a PS3 ;)
Oh and I don't see much of a differenve in RDR, some one pointed out to me that there is like 2% more grass on 360 but that's just silly to argue about. I don't care about that, I don't see a difference in resolution in RDR or Skyrim, haven't played Crisis and I don't want to. I have Killzone and COD, so why would I buy Crisis?
Actrually Gears3 looks much better than Uncharted 3, it is a whole generation better in image quality too, the engine is just far ahead
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
There is hardly a different in multiplats (any one who isn't a fanboy knows this) and most of the time you can't even noitice. The whole "xbox has teh better multiplatz" is something that idiots who go to lens of truth and digital foundry believe. I can understand why they do though, someone has to make them feel less insucure about having a console with no more games coming out. And I can understand why sites like lens of truth and digital foundry do what they do, to make money off of idtiot fanboys. The more fanboys they get to watch ads on their site, the more money they recieve. I can't blame them, I would be doing the SAME exact thing in their postion.
What's funny though is that none of these people want to talk about exclusives. No they want to pretend that their is a VAST difference between multiplats because some site says so, but if you compare exclusives they don't want to admit it. No 360 exclusive comes close to PS3 exlcusives, nothing. Halo doesn't look anywhere near as good as Killzone, Gears is nothing special compared to Uncharted, and MGS4 STILL looks better than 360 exclusives, and that came out in 2008!
In multiplats the differences are minimal, but in exclusives there is a VAST difference. Some people don't want to admit it, sorry but it's the truth.
woodenfork21
also, its funny how you make a quote mocking xbox fanboys in a tone as if to say u feel they're saying something delusional and idiotic...then you proceed to write a post two paragraphs of delusional and idiotic **** lol.
what happened to u...u used to be a biased but fair, nice read. now ur just a tool smh.
multiplats have always been a sensitive subject for shadowmoses. maybe the internet finally got to him. :lol:
It does, but the PS3 is slowly starting to turn things around now/khoofia_pika
Actually is getting a lot worst, now with Skyrim, Crysis 1-2 etc and pretty much every demanding game visually
Also Gears 3 proves that 360 can do far better graphics than the best of PS3 (Uncharted 3)
Why u mad? You must only have a 360.[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="woodenfork21"] yea, the guy is a joke...completely worthless, no integrity.sonic1564
I owwn a PS3 and a 360, hell even a wii and I think you're a joke
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
Gears 3 looks a generation better than Uncharted3 jaggied and mediocre picture quality actually
Also games like RDR, Crysis 1-2 and Skyrim have a huge difference, on PS3 is like a huge blur is covering the eyes, which is like having half the 360 resolution or worst
loosingENDS
Gears 3 looks pretty good but it doesn't even come close to Uncharted 3 or Killzone ect... sorry but 360 doesn't have exclsuives that can match the PS3. You can keep your invisible differences in multiplats because I don't care about that. I care about exclusives and guess what? The 360 has FAILED in category as of now,no wait that isn't entirely true. You still have kinect exclusives so I guess that counts, but if your not into that then your system doesn't have anything to offer you besides multiplats that have an invisible difference.
So why not talk about exclusives? You want to claim better multiplats so let's play some exclusives then? You don't want to because you know you'll lose. Really I am laughing at all the lemmings in this thread because they are getting so angry and definsinve about this, don't get angry at me. It's not my fault you didn't buy a PS3 ;)
Oh and I don't see much of a differenve in RDR, some one pointed out to me that there is like 2% more grass on 360 but that's just silly to argue about. I don't care about that, I don't see a difference in resolution in RDR or Skyrim, haven't played Crisis and I don't want to. I have Killzone and COD, so why would I buy Crisis?
Actrually Gears3 looks much better than Uncharted 3, it is a whole generation better in image quality too, the engine is just far ahead
lol okay whatever helps you sleep at night, I'll be up playing Uncharted 3 and more because I, unlike you, actually have exclsuives to play and they look damn good. Enjoy Gears 3 and....kinect lol.
[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]It does, but the PS3 is slowly starting to turn things around now/loosingENDS
Actually is getting a lot worst, now woth Skyrim, Crysis 1-2 etc
Also Gears 3 proves that 360 can do far better graphics than the best of PS3 (Uncharted 3)
Yeah, well, Skyrim and Crysis are counter arguments for sure, I don't disagree. But others like Dead Space 2, L.A. Noire, Portal 2 and Mortal Kombat have been better on the PS3, in all honesty. Also, Gears 3 had a lot of rough textures and character models had a few rough edges too. It was a brilliant looking game over all, but it need just a little more polish. Uncharted 3 still looks better, with its mind blowing particle and light effects. And The Last of Us is going to outdo even that. I don't really care about the visuals much, though, I had a hell lot of fun with both UC3 and Gears 3. PS: I'm a lem, FYI.I made this thread: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28964436/so-much-for-the-99.9-multiplates-perform-better-on-xbox-360-myth The lemmings was still in denial!!!Adamantium4k2
you mean that thread where you blatantly lied about your sources and then disappeared when i pointed it out?
:lol: TC, are you mentally challenged? i just entered two of your own links, Rage and DEHR, and their verdict was that Rage is better on the 360 while HR is a tie. i'm not even gonna bother going into the other links.
making stuff up like this just shows how much it eats you up inside that your favorite piece of plastic gets shafted all the time. ;)
KarateeeChop
remember that? ;)
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
Links to fanboy sites don't mean anything. And using DF as a source just makes you look like a desperate xbox fanboy (which you kinda are)...
KarateeeChop
what's with your meltdown lately shadowmoses? skyrim not working for ya? :lol:
lol that was pretty funny, I have to admit I loled. This is a bit OT but your quote in your sig is pretty hilarious, that's something onlya COMPLETE idiot would say. Even I'm not THAT bad :P
lol you lems can keep tyring to run from this, but you can't. I swithced from xbox to PS3 and the ONLY multiplat I saw a difference in was Splinter Cell Double Agent, the frame rate was better on xbox. But the PS3 versionhad extra content and more detail in graphics so it evens out
ShadowMoses900
what? first you called everyone fanboys for acknowledging the 360's superior multiplats, and now you claim to notice differences that aren't even there?? :lol:
DF:
"Even relatively minor effects such as the curvature on the scope of Fisher's machine-gun are absent on PS3, along with a host of other cute presentational features seen in the original game. And even though the game is belittled so dramatically from a visual perspective, it still manages to run at a lower frame rate than the Xbox 360 version.
In all, Splinter Cell Double Agent is a deeply disappointing experience on PlayStation 3. Sure, the core of the game is pretty much the same, and yes there is an extra character and two more maps in the multiplayer mode. But who gives a toss about token improvements when such a colossal lack of care and attention has been paid to the main game itself?"
[QUOTE="speedfreak48t5p"]Gran Turismo 5 PROLOGUE sold more than Forza Motorsport 4. That is all. Cows: "sales matter when it suits us"My favourite part about this troll thread is the lack of mention of Forza. We know Forza>GT so of course TC wouldn't mention it. :roll:
ThisIsTwoFace
saw who created the thread and knew immediately where this was going.
cows are looking more and more desperate each day...
lol okay whatever helps you sleep at night, I'll be up playing Uncharted 3 and more because I, unlike you, actually have exclsuives to play and they look damn good. Enjoy Gears 3 and....kinect lol.
ShadowMoses900
When are you playing it, Shadow? It's still nowhere to be found on your PSN profile :lol:
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol you lems can keep tyring to run from this, but you can't. I swithced from xbox to PS3 and the ONLY multiplat I saw a difference in was Splinter Cell Double Agent, the frame rate was better on xbox. But the PS3 versionhad extra content and more detail in graphics so it evens out
KarateeeChop
what? first you called everyone fanboys for acknowledging the 360's superior multiplats, and now you claim to notice differences that aren't even there?? :lol:
DF:
"Even relatively minor effects such as the curvature on the scope of Fisher's machine-gun are absent on PS3, along with a host of other cute presentational features seen in the original game. And even though the game is belittled so dramatically from a visual perspective, it still manages to run at a lower frame rate than the Xbox 360 version.
In all, Splinter Cell Double Agent is a deeply disappointing experience on PlayStation 3. Sure, the core of the game is pretty much the same, and yes there is an extra character and two more maps in the multiplayer mode. But who gives a toss about token improvements when such a colossal lack of care and attention has been paid to the main game itself?"
I didn't say it was that big of a deal, the game came out on PS3 a year later or so. The framerate was lower, but not by that much. The extra graphic detail wasn't that much better, but it was noticiable if you played both for a long time like I did. But either way it doesn't matter because it wasn't THAT much noticible, and most multiplats are even less noticble. The fact that you need to go to some website to tell you otherwise proves my point, there is hardly a difference between them. A difference I don't care about.
Now in exclusives that is another story, it must suck playing Halo and Gears and Fable and looking at the PS3 exclusives like Uncharted or Killzone ect...it's too bad you didn't buy a PS3. But I'm not saying those games are bad, they are good, but they don't hold a candle to PS3 exclusives.
You bought the right system for multiplats, I bought the right system for multiplats AND exclusives ;)
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol okay whatever helps you sleep at night, I'll be up playing Uncharted 3 and more because I, unlike you, actually have exclsuives to play and they look damn good. Enjoy Gears 3 and....kinect lol.
waltefmoney
When are you playing it, Shadow? It's still nowhere to be found on your PSN profile :lol:
Why are you stalking me :?
And if your using the PSN trophy site, it doesn't update that often. Doesn't matter because I don't have to show you anything, Uncharted 3 is the best looking game I ever played, it's easliy the graphics king on consoles. See it's PC guys and PS3 guys fighitng each other and lemmings are quite about it, cows have Unchcarted and Killzone ect... and hermits have Withcer and Crisis ect... and they fight. Lemmings have nothing to show.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol okay whatever helps you sleep at night, I'll be up playing Uncharted 3 and more because I, unlike you, actually have exclsuives to play and they look damn good. Enjoy Gears 3 and....kinect lol.
waltefmoney
When are you playing it, Shadow? It's still nowhere to be found on your PSN profile :lol:
caught :lol:
now wait for the excuse.
Why are you stalking me :?
And if your using the PSN trophy site, it doesn't update that often. Doesn't matter because I don't have to show you anything, Uncharted 3 is the best looking game I ever played, it's easliy the graphics king on consoles. See it's PC guys and PS3 guys fighitng each other and lemmings are quite about it, cows have Unchcarted and Killzone ect... and hermits have Withcer and Crisis ect... and they fight. Lemmings have nothing to show.
ShadowMoses900
I'm not stalking you. It's just that I hear you brag about playing Uncharted 3 so ofter, I decide to check if you've actually played it from time to time. Seems like you haven't yet. Protip: If you're gonna be using "I'm gonna be staying up to play this game" to attack people, at least play the bloody game :lol:
[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol okay whatever helps you sleep at night, I'll be up playing Uncharted 3 and more because I, unlike you, actually have exclsuives to play and they look damn good. Enjoy Gears 3 and....kinect lol.
ShadowMoses900
When are you playing it, Shadow? It's still nowhere to be found on your PSN profile :lol:
Why are you stalking me :?
And if your using the PSN trophy site, it doesn't update that often. Doesn't matter because I don't have to show you anything, Uncharted 3 is the best looking game I ever played, it's easliy the graphics king on consoles. See it's PC guys and PS3 guys fighitng each other and lemmings are quite about it, cows have Unchcarted and Killzone ect... and hermits have Withcer and Crisis ect... and they fight. Lemmings have nothing to show.
the problem with you shadowmoses is that you flame lemmings for pointing out the FACT that most multiplats run better on the 360, even if it's only marginally better, better is still better, you then proceed to state how Ps3 exclusives are MILES better than 360 exclusives when the difference between gears 3 and UC3 is the same marginal differences you see between multiplats, you can't have it both ways, if it's ok for you to point out the fact that exclusives are btter on the Ps3 then it's ok for lems to point out the fact that most multiplats run better on the 360, any other way is just pure hypocrisy on your part ' i am allowed to point out the pro's fro the Ps3 but lems are not allowed to point out the pro's for the 360' do you see how childish that attitude is, it's double standards mate 'it's alright for me to do it but not for somebody else to do it'.[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
Why are you stalking me :?
And if your using the PSN trophy site, it doesn't update that often. Doesn't matter because I don't have to show you anything, Uncharted 3 is the best looking game I ever played, it's easliy the graphics king on consoles. See it's PC guys and PS3 guys fighitng each other and lemmings are quite about it, cows have Unchcarted and Killzone ect... and hermits have Withcer and Crisis ect... and they fight. Lemmings have nothing to show.
waltefmoney
I'm not stalking you. It's just that I hear you brag about playing Uncharted 3 so ofter, I decide to check if you've actually played it from time to time. Seems like you haven't yet. Protip: If you're gonna be using "I'm gonna be staying up to play this game" to attack people, at least play the bloody game :lol:
lol why is Uncharted being better then Gears so upsetting to you? Just buy a PS3 and play it, oh that's probably your problem huh? Having to pay for online play and RROD fixes and over priced add ons made you too poor to buy a PS3. Protip: Uncharted is better looking then Gears, you don't even have a PS3 so what do you know?
lol why is Uncharted being better then Gears so upsetting to you? Just buy a PS3 and play it, oh that's probably your problem huh? Having to pay for online play and RROD fixes and over priced add ons made you too poor to buy a PS3. Protip: Uncharted is better looking then Gears, you don't even have a PS3 so what do you know?
ShadowMoses900
After you :lol:
[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol okay whatever helps you sleep at night, I'll be up playing Uncharted 3 and more because I, unlike you, actually have exclsuives to play and they look damn good. Enjoy Gears 3 and....kinect lol.
ShadowMoses900
When are you playing it, Shadow? It's still nowhere to be found on your PSN profile :lol:
Why are you stalking me :?
And if your using the PSN trophy site, it doesn't update that often. Doesn't matter because I don't have to show you anything, Uncharted 3 is the best looking game I ever played, it's easliy the graphics king on consoles. See it's PC guys and PS3 guys fighitng each other and lemmings are quite about it, cows have Unchcarted and Killzone ect... and hermits have Withcer and Crisis ect... and they fight. Lemmings have nothing to show.
for ages you have been throwing around "i'm gonna go play u3 suckers." but then again, it's been already established long ago that you're full of shiit, moses. :lol:
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]
When are you playing it, Shadow? It's still nowhere to be found on your PSN profile :lol:
delta3074
Why are you stalking me :?
And if your using the PSN trophy site, it doesn't update that often. Doesn't matter because I don't have to show you anything, Uncharted 3 is the best looking game I ever played, it's easliy the graphics king on consoles. See it's PC guys and PS3 guys fighitng each other and lemmings are quite about it, cows have Unchcarted and Killzone ect... and hermits have Withcer and Crisis ect... and they fight. Lemmings have nothing to show.
the problem with you shadowmoses is that you flame lemmings for pointing out the FACT that most multiplats run better on the 360, even if it's only marginally better, better is still better, you then proceed to state how Ps3 exclusives are MILES better than 360 exclusives when the difference between gears 3 and UC3 is the same marginal differences you see between multiplats, you can't have it both ways, if it's ok for you to point out the fact that exclusives are btter on the Ps3 then it's ok for lems to point out the fact that most multiplats run better on the 360, any other way is just pure hypocrisy on your part ' i am allowed to point out the pro's fro the Ps3 but lems are not allowed to point out the pro's for the 360' do you see how childish that attitude is, it's double standards mate 'it's alright for me to do it but not for somebody else to do it'.lol I don't care what people say about multiplats, I don't care if you think they are better on xbox or not. If I don't see amajor difference then it doesn't affect me, you can pretend it matters but it really doesn't. Exclusives I can brag about because there is a REAL difference, you think Halo looks better than Killzone? Or Gears looks better than Uncharted? No 360 exclusive has yet to match PS3 exclusives, but hey you don't think for yourself. Go link some sites and let them talk for you, your just a pawn.
I know what your issue is, see I'm a DR. And you are suffering from poor mans regret. Here's my prescription: get a better job and buy a PS3. You'll be more happy, trust me.
the problem with you shadowmoses is that you flame lemmings for pointing out the FACT that most multiplats run better on the 360, even if it's only marginally better, better is still better, you then proceed to state how Ps3 exclusives are MILES better than 360 exclusives when the difference between gears 3 and UC3 is the same marginal differences you see between multiplats, you can't have it both ways, if it's ok for you to point out the fact that exclusives are btter on the Ps3 then it's ok for lems to point out the fact that most multiplats run better on the 360, any other way is just pure hypocrisy on your part ' i am allowed to point out the pro's fro the Ps3 but lems are not allowed to point out the pro's for the 360' do you see how childish that attitude is, it's double standards mate 'it's alright for me to do it but not for somebody else to do it'.[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
Why are you stalking me :?
And if your using the PSN trophy site, it doesn't update that often. Doesn't matter because I don't have to show you anything, Uncharted 3 is the best looking game I ever played, it's easliy the graphics king on consoles. See it's PC guys and PS3 guys fighitng each other and lemmings are quite about it, cows have Unchcarted and Killzone ect... and hermits have Withcer and Crisis ect... and they fight. Lemmings have nothing to show.
ShadowMoses900
lol I don't care what people say about multiplats, I don't care if you think they are better on xbox or not. If I don't see amajor difference then it doesn't affect me, you can pretend it matters but it really doesn't. Exclusives I can brag about because there is a REAL difference, you think Halo looks better than Killzone? Or Gears looks better than Uncharted? No 360 exclusive has yet to match PS3 exclusives, but hey you don't think for yourself. Go link some sites and let them talk for you, your just a pawn.
I know what your issue is, see I'm a DR. And you are suffering from poor mans regret. Here's my prescription: get a better job and buy a PS3. You'll be more happy, trust me.
And if i have both and still cant see your delusional differences?Yes, the 360 has a majority of better looking multiplats. They range from minimally better looking to much better looking, but better nonetheless.
Gears 3 looks better than a lot of the PS3 exclusives. UC3 is about equal, and i'd give it the nod due to the art direction. Killzone 3 is also damn good looking.
[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
lol you lems can keep tyring to run from this, but you can't. I swithced from xbox to PS3 and the ONLY multiplat I saw a difference in was Splinter Cell Double Agent, the frame rate was better on xbox. But the PS3 versionhad extra content and more detail in graphics so it evens out
ShadowMoses900
what? first you called everyone fanboys for acknowledging the 360's superior multiplats, and now you claim to notice differences that aren't even there?? :lol:
DF:
"Even relatively minor effects such as the curvature on the scope of Fisher's machine-gun are absent on PS3, along with a host of other cute presentational features seen in the original game. And even though the game is belittled so dramatically from a visual perspective, it still manages to run at a lower frame rate than the Xbox 360 version.
In all, Splinter Cell Double Agent is a deeply disappointing experience on PlayStation 3. Sure, the core of the game is pretty much the same, and yes there is an extra character and two more maps in the multiplayer mode. But who gives a toss about token improvements when such a colossal lack of care and attention has been paid to the main game itself?"
I didn't say it was that big of a deal, the game came out on PS3 a year later or so. The framerate was lower, but not by that much. The extra graphic detail wasn't that much better, but it was noticiable if you played both for a long time like I did. But either way it doesn't matter because it wasn't THAT much noticible, and most multiplats are even less noticble. The fact that you need to go to some website to tell you otherwise proves my point, there is hardly a difference between them. A difference I don't care about.
Now in exclusives that is another story, it must suck playing Halo and Gears and Fable and looking at the PS3 exclusives like Uncharted or Killzone ect...it's too bad you didn't buy a PS3. But I'm not saying those games are bad, they are good, but they don't hold a candle to PS3 exclusives.
You bought the right system for multiplats, I bought the right system for multiplats AND exclusives ;)
except that contrary to what you said, DF has actually proven that double agent on the ps3 lacks in graphical detail compared to the 360 version, big time!
so again, moses, how did you notice the ps3's "superior details" in that game, even though it has been proven that it was actually the ps3 version that suffers from being "belittled so dramatically from a visual perspective"?
you are full of shiit. :lol:
for ages you have been throwing around "i'm gonna go play u3 suckers." but then again, it's been already established long ago that you're full of shiit, moses. :lol:
KarateeeChop
Are there any decent cows on SW left? All we have now are jokes like him.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]lol why is Uncharted being better then Gears so upsetting to you? delta3074why is the fact that skyrim is better on the 360 so upsetting to you? why is it the fact that most multiplts run marginally better on the 360 so upsetting to you?
lol I don't care, don't see a problem with Skyirm. I'm 12 MB save and 90 hours in and no issues at all, so why would I be upset about something that I'm not expereincing. Don't care about multiplats being "better" on 360 either, I don't see a difference so why would I care?
Exclusives I care about because they are better on PS3. And you don't needa dumb website to prove it, sorry nothing on 360 looks as good as PS3 exclusives.
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