[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]rubbish, according to Digital foundry both batman AC and skyrim are better on the 360 and all the other games where rated AA or above so sying there crap is just a minority opinion really, you stay in cloud cuckoo land mate, that place where somehow your opinion is more important than everybody elses including experts who know far more than you about how these games actually work (DF), news flash, it isn't, merry christmas.delta3074So according to an incompetent person those 2 games are better on 360? Wow jeez now I'm convinced. Skyrim is as we already established much better on PS3. And batman was a win to PS3 according to LoT. So that means it's better on PS3 since they're experts right? I mean they have their own website so they must be right? Right? Who cares about ratings? Mass Effect 2 is a horrible game. Why would I care which system it's better on? And according to the "experts" at LoT it's a tie. Also at the "experts" at IGN IIRC. Maybe they even said it's better on PS3. I don't care cause it's a crap game and IGN is incompetent. The only good multiplat I've played is Portal 2 and it's better on PS3. I haven't played Bioshock yet so I give you that one. DF are developers themselves, provide evidence that they are incompetent, you are the only person who has ever said they are and we only have your word for it. How about "forgetting" loading and lots of stuff in the BF3 comparison? Also they never post the stats. Maybe cause they don't know anything and just approximate.
Xbox doesn't really have better multiplats than PS3
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Was, or is? The market said the PS3 was overpriced when it was $599 hence why it wasn't selling initially...delta3074He said is. It's another matter about the launch price. over here the Ps3 is still more expensive than the xbox 360 and to me marginally better graphics on exclusives does not justify me spending extra money on one over the 360 especially when i cannot get some of my most favorite games like Risen, Ego draconis, Left4dead,Left4dead 2 ,darksatr one and next year the witcher 2, i am primarily a sanbox/open world RPG gamer and the 360 is the best out of the two systems for those games, i love killzone 2 and infamous but i prefer Halo and despit what people say i loved all the fables, it's totally british atmosphere is just really my cup of tea, if preferring a particular system and wanting whats best for me and my family financially makes me an xbox fanboy then the world has gone mad, i actually bought my wife a 40GB Ps3 for last christmas, Preowned 200 quid, i could have bought her a 360 s 250gb with one just released game for that.
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http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/52-2616582/Game-Consoles/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Slim-(250GB)-Compare-Prices
http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/52-2648067/Game-Consoles/Sony-Playstation-3-Slim-(160GB)-Compare-Prices
oh wow a 20£ difference. After like 4 months of live there's no difference anymore. Well at least you didn't spend that extra money on better graphics and exclusives :roll:
[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]DF are developers themselves, provide evidence that they are incompetent, you are the only person who has ever said they are and we only have your word for it.delta3074How about "forgetting" loading and lots of stuff in the BF3 comparison? Also they never post the stats. Maybe cause they don't know anything and just approximate.they do post the stats, in video format, try watching the video's they put in there comparisons which show framerates and screen tearing percentages No I mean like LoT do where the actually provide the average etc for many scenes. And then the overall average.
over here the Ps3 is still more expensive than the xbox 360 and to me marginally better graphics on exclusives does not justify me spending extra money on one over the 360 especially when i cannot get some of my most favorite games like Risen, Ego draconis, Left4dead,Left4dead 2 ,darksatr one and next year the witcher 2, i am primarily a sanbox/open world RPG gamer and the 360 is the best out of the two systems for those games, i love killzone 2 and infamous but i prefer Halo and despit what people say i loved all the fables, it's totally british atmosphere is just really my cup of tea, if preferring a particular system and wanting whats best for me and my family financially makes me an xbox fanboy then the world has gone mad, i actually bought my wife a 40GB Ps3 for last christmas, Preowned 200 quid, i could have bought her a 360 s 250gb with one just released game for that.[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] He said is. It's another matter about the launch price. themajormayor
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http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/52-2616582/Game-Consoles/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Slim-(250GB)-Compare-Prices
http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/52-2648067/Game-Consoles/Sony-Playstation-3-Slim-(160GB)-Compare-Prices
oh wow a 20£ difference. After like 4 months of live there's no difference anymore. Well at least you spend that money on better graphics and exclusives :roll:
marginally better graphics, to me xbox 360 exclusives may not have the best graphics but they are the better games, i cannot get left4dead,left4dead 2,risen, ego draconis,darkstar one and next year the witcher 2, i cannot get Halo or Fable on the ps3 either, did you intentionally miss my point that it goes beyond just price? i prefer the games on the 360, i am not a grphics W**** mate, i couldn't care less about having better graphics, i just want to play the games i enjoy playing and the only Ps3 exclusives i am interested in are killzone and infamous, if i wante dbetter graphics i would save up and get a gaming PC at least i would still be able to play the PC/360 multiplats i listed,lol[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]over here the Ps3 is still more expensive than the xbox 360 and to me marginally better graphics on exclusives does not justify me spending extra money on one over the 360 especially when i cannot get some of my most favorite games like Risen, Ego draconis, Left4dead,Left4dead 2 ,darksatr one and next year the witcher 2, i am primarily a sanbox/open world RPG gamer and the 360 is the best out of the two systems for those games, i love killzone 2 and infamous but i prefer Halo and despit what people say i loved all the fables, it's totally british atmosphere is just really my cup of tea, if preferring a particular system and wanting whats best for me and my family financially makes me an xbox fanboy then the world has gone mad, i actually bought my wife a 40GB Ps3 for last christmas, Preowned 200 quid, i could have bought her a 360 s 250gb with one just released game for that.delta3074
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http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/52-2616582/Game-Consoles/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Slim-(250GB)-Compare-Prices
http://www.pricerunner.co.uk/pl/52-2648067/Game-Consoles/Sony-Playstation-3-Slim-(160GB)-Compare-Prices
oh wow a 20£ difference. After like 4 months of live there's no difference anymore. Well at least you spend that money on better graphics and exclusives :roll:
marginally better graphics, to me xbox 360 exclusives may not have the best graphics but they are the better games, i cannot get left4dead,left4dead 2,risen, ego draconis,darkstar one and next year the witcher 2, i cannot get Halo or Fable on the ps3 either, did you intentionally miss my point that it goes beyond just price? i prefer the games on the 360, i am not a grphics W**** mate, i couldn't care less about having better graphics, i just want to play the games i enjoy playing and the only Ps3 exclusives i am interested in are killzone and infamous, if i wante dbetter graphics i would save up and get a gaming PC at least i would still be able to play the PC/360 multiplats i listed,lol That is all irrelevant. That's your opinion which is fine(but wrong). The thing is you're calling the PS3 overpriced when you're at the same time paying MORE for a WORSE console. That's hypocracy and fanboyism at its best.[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]they do post the stats, in video format, try watching the video's they put in there comparisons which show framerates and screen tearing percentagesdelta3074No I mean like LoT do where the actually provide the average etc for many scenes. And then the overall average.the video's are better because they provide a realtime visual representation of what is going on with the game in my opinion, each to there own i guess, you realise that LoT was actually called Lems of truth by cows for ages right? digital foundry have always been unbiased in there opinions. LoT posts both. It means they're more competent. I don't care what cows said. I don't find them credible either. That's why I called them "experts". DF is really biased. They forget stuff that goes against the 360
That is all irrelevant. That's your opinion which is fine(but wrong). The thing is you're calling the PS3 overpriced when you're at the same time paying MORE for a WORSE console. That's hypocracy and fanboyism at its best.themajormayorpaying for a console which has the games i prefer on it is fanboyism now? i said the Ps3 cost more, when i said it was overpriced i was reffering to it's launch price and the fact that until last year it was roughly 80 quid more than a 120gb xbox 360 Elite model over here,i also lost my rag with shadowmoses i already provided evidence that i was no fanboy earlier on in this thread from my own posting history, which no doubt you chose to ignore,and worse console is subjective and is your opinion, to you it may be the worst console to others like myself the 360 is the best console, i buy a console based on it's games library and to me the 360 has the best game library because i prefer the exclusives on it and it has the PC/360 multiplats i listed on it, i also prefer the 360's controller to the DS3 and i prefer the fact i can fully install my games to the HDD which cuts down on texture pop-in and load times and save wear and tear on the DVD Rom drive, there are many different reasons why people prefer one console over the other, doesn't make them a fanboy, i happen to think that the Ps3 is an awesome console it's just not MY cup of tea and it does not have the games i want to play on it or features that i like the most.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]That is all irrelevant. That's your opinion which is fine(but wrong). The thing is you're calling the PS3 overpriced when you're at the same time paying MORE for a WORSE console. That's hypocracy and fanboyism at its best.delta3074paying for a console which has the games i prefer on it is fanboyism now? i said the Ps3 cost more, when i said it was overpriced i was reffering to it's launch price and the fact that until last year it was roughly 80 quid more than a 120gb xbox 360 Elite model over here,i also lost my rag with shadowmoses i already provided evidence that i was no fanboy earlier on in this thread from my own posting history, which no doubt you chose to ignore,and worse console is subjective and is your opinion, to you it may be the worst console to others like myself the 360 is the best console, i buy a console based on it's games library and to me the 360 has the best game library because i prefer the exclusives on it and it has the PC/360 multiplats i listed on it, i also prefer the 360's controller to the DS3 and i prefer the fact i can fully install my games to the HDD which cuts down on texture pop-in and load times and save wear and tear on the DVD Rom drive, there are many different reasons why people prefer one console over the other, doesn't make them a fanboy, i happen to think that the Ps3 is an awesome console it's just not MY cup of tea and it does not have the games i want to play on it or features that i like the most.
Ok sorry my mistake. I thought you were calling the PS3 overpriced NOW. Which would be a freaking stupid thing to say. But the "evidence" from your posting history didn't prove anything. You said they were graphically equal consoles which is obviously very laughable.
paying for a console which has the games i prefer on it is fanboyism now? i said the Ps3 cost more, when i said it was overpriced i was reffering to it's launch price and the fact that until last year it was roughly 80 quid more than a 120gb xbox 360 Elite model over here,i also lost my rag with shadowmoses i already provided evidence that i was no fanboy earlier on in this thread from my own posting history, which no doubt you chose to ignore,and worse console is subjective and is your opinion, to you it may be the worst console to others like myself the 360 is the best console, i buy a console based on it's games library and to me the 360 has the best game library because i prefer the exclusives on it and it has the PC/360 multiplats i listed on it, i also prefer the 360's controller to the DS3 and i prefer the fact i can fully install my games to the HDD which cuts down on texture pop-in and load times and save wear and tear on the DVD Rom drive, there are many different reasons why people prefer one console over the other, doesn't make them a fanboy, i happen to think that the Ps3 is an awesome console it's just not MY cup of tea and it does not have the games i want to play on it or features that i like the most.[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]That is all irrelevant. That's your opinion which is fine(but wrong). The thing is you're calling the PS3 overpriced when you're at the same time paying MORE for a WORSE console. That's hypocracy and fanboyism at its best.themajormayor
Ok sorry my mistake. I thought you were calling the PS3 overpriced NOW. Which would be a freaking stupid thing to say. But the "evidence" from your posting history didn't prove anything. You said they were graphically equal consoles which is obviously very laughable.
"That being said the TC is full of crap, uncharted 3 is arguably the best looking game on consoles, both are just as competent as each other but the Ps3 has a marginal edge in the graphics department." http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28975211/the-ps3-came-out-a-year-after-360-and-doesnt-have-better-graphics "the Ps3 has has more than half the useable RAM for starters, it has 512MB of RAM the same as the 360, just split into two different pools and what the RSX cannot do it can offload onto the Cell CPU which uses it's own pool of RAM which avoids the bottleneck that is created when the GPU accesses the Cells RAM pool, th e 360 only has an extra 18 MB of useable memory becsuase it has a lower OS footprint, the 360 is 32MB the Ps3 is 50MB, as of now UC3 is marginally better looking than anything on the 360 hence, it can do marginally better graphics, the fact that you claimed the Ps3 only has half the amount of useable RAM just confirms that you have no clue about how these consoles actually work." http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28975211/the-ps3-came-out-a-year-after-360-and-doesnt-have-better-graphics?msg_id=334371886#334371886 which part of the Ps3 has marginally better graphics did you miss, besides , saying both consoles are equal wouldn't make sombody a fanboy, if i was a lemming i would be spouting baseless crap like loosing ends, he annoys me more than anybody. i believe what carmack stated, that the Ps3 is marginally more powerful but you have to sweat bullets to reach that extra level in peak performance[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]paying for a console which has the games i prefer on it is fanboyism now? i said the Ps3 cost more, when i said it was overpriced i was reffering to it's launch price and the fact that until last year it was roughly 80 quid more than a 120gb xbox 360 Elite model over here,i also lost my rag with shadowmoses i already provided evidence that i was no fanboy earlier on in this thread from my own posting history, which no doubt you chose to ignore,and worse console is subjective and is your opinion, to you it may be the worst console to others like myself the 360 is the best console, i buy a console based on it's games library and to me the 360 has the best game library because i prefer the exclusives on it and it has the PC/360 multiplats i listed on it, i also prefer the 360's controller to the DS3 and i prefer the fact i can fully install my games to the HDD which cuts down on texture pop-in and load times and save wear and tear on the DVD Rom drive, there are many different reasons why people prefer one console over the other, doesn't make them a fanboy, i happen to think that the Ps3 is an awesome console it's just not MY cup of tea and it does not have the games i want to play on it or features that i like the most.delta3074
Ok sorry my mistake. I thought you were calling the PS3 overpriced NOW. Which would be a freaking stupid thing to say. But the "evidence" from your posting history didn't prove anything. You said they were graphically equal consoles which is obviously very laughable.
"That being said the TC is full of crap, uncharted 3 is arguably the best looking game on consoles, both are just as competent as each other but the Ps3 has a marginal edge in the graphics department." http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28975211/the-ps3-came-out-a-year-after-360-and-doesnt-have-better-graphics "the Ps3 has has more than half the useable RAM for starters, it has 512MB of RAM the same as the 360, just split into two different pools and what the RSX cannot do it can offload onto the Cell CPU which uses it's own pool of RAM which avoids the bottleneck that is created when the GPU accesses the Cells RAM pool, th e 360 only has an extra 18 MB of useable memory becsuase it has a lower OS footprint, the 360 is 32MB the Ps3 is 50MB, as of now UC3 is marginally better looking than anything on the 360 hence, it can do marginally better graphics, the fact that you claimed the Ps3 only has half the amount of useable RAM just confirms that you have no clue about how these consoles actually work." http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28975211/the-ps3-came-out-a-year-after-360-and-doesnt-have-better-graphics?msg_id=334371886#334371886 which part of the Ps3 has marginally better graphics did you miss, besides , saying both consoles are equal wouldn't make sombody a fanboy, if i was a lemming i would be spouting baseless crap like loosing ends, he annoys me more than anybody. i believe what carmack stated, that the Ps3 is marginally more powerful but you have to sweat bullets to reach that extra level in peak performance So the PS3 is marginally more powerful? Cause in another thread you were claiming a 360 win in multiplats because of marginal differences. And you said stuff like even though the differences are tiny they're still there so 360 wins. Stuff like that.So the PS3 is marginally more powerful? Cause in another thread you were claiming a 360 win in multiplats because of marginal differences. And you said stuff like even though the differences are tiny they're still there so 360 wins. Stuff like that.themajormayorthe 360 does win in multiplats but that has nothing to do with which system is more powerful, i have never said the 360 was more powerful, the truth is that multiplatsgenerally run better on the 360 but that's because it's architecture is more suited to the game engines that are used to create the games, it's architecture is very close to that of A PC's which are used to create the engines and games, the reason Ps3 multiplats tend to be worse is more down to it's unorthodox architecture than it is to do with Raw power, it's about ease of developement and the Fact that MS, being primarily a software company, has given developers better developement tools than SONY has, the bottom line is the 360 is just easier to develope on and has better developement tools, games like UC and killzone are proof that with the right budget, the right support and using engines that are actually designed with the Ps3's architecture instead of third party multiplat engines designed for all 3 platforms, the Ps3 has marginally better graphics and more power than the 360.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]So the PS3 is marginally more powerful? Cause in another thread you were claiming a 360 win in multiplats because of marginal differences. And you said stuff like even though the differences are tiny they're still there so 360 wins. Stuff like that.delta3074the 360 does win in multiplats but that has nothing to do with which system is more powerful, i have never said the 360 was more powerful, the truth is that multiplatsgenerally run better on the 360 but that's because it's architecture is more suited to the game engines that are used to create the games, it's architecture is very close to that of A PC's which are used to create the engines and games, the reason Ps3 multiplats tend to be worse is more down to it's unorthodox architecture than it is to do with Raw power, it's about ease of developement and the Fact that MS, being primarily a software company, has given developers better developement tools than SONY has, the bottom line is the 360 is just easier to develope on and has better developement tools, games like UC and killzone are proof that with the right budget, the right support and using engines that are actually designed with the Ps3's architecture instead of third party multiplat engines designed for all 3 platforms, the Ps3 has marginally better graphics and more power than the 360. That's not what I meant. I know most multiplats look better on 360 even if marginally. What I was getting at is that you seem to be making a big deal about marginal differences in multiplats "because even a small win is a win(or something)" but now you're downplaying the difference in exclusive like it's no big deal.
[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]So the PS3 is marginally more powerful? Cause in another thread you were claiming a 360 win in multiplats because of marginal differences. And you said stuff like even though the differences are tiny they're still there so 360 wins. Stuff like that.themajormayorthe 360 does win in multiplats but that has nothing to do with which system is more powerful, i have never said the 360 was more powerful, the truth is that multiplatsgenerally run better on the 360 but that's because it's architecture is more suited to the game engines that are used to create the games, it's architecture is very close to that of A PC's which are used to create the engines and games, the reason Ps3 multiplats tend to be worse is more down to it's unorthodox architecture than it is to do with Raw power, it's about ease of developement and the Fact that MS, being primarily a software company, has given developers better developement tools than SONY has, the bottom line is the 360 is just easier to develope on and has better developement tools, games like UC and killzone are proof that with the right budget, the right support and using engines that are actually designed with the Ps3's architecture instead of third party multiplat engines designed for all 3 platforms, the Ps3 has marginally better graphics and more power than the 360. That's not what I meant. I know most multiplats look better on 360 even if marginally. What I was getting at is that you seem to be making a big deal about marginal differences in multiplats "because even a small win is a win(or something)" but now you're downplaying the difference in exclusive like it's no big deal.i said that the 360 has marginally better multiplats, the Ps3 has marginally better exclusives, how is that downplaying one over the other when i am describing them both as marginal? i don't see you point, if i said that the Ps3 had marginally better exclusives but multiplats on 360 where much better then i would be downplaying Ps3 excluisves but i am not saying that am i.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]the 360 does win in multiplats but that has nothing to do with which system is more powerful, i have never said the 360 was more powerful, the truth is that multiplatsgenerally run better on the 360 but that's because it's architecture is more suited to the game engines that are used to create the games, it's architecture is very close to that of A PC's which are used to create the engines and games, the reason Ps3 multiplats tend to be worse is more down to it's unorthodox architecture than it is to do with Raw power, it's about ease of developement and the Fact that MS, being primarily a software company, has given developers better developement tools than SONY has, the bottom line is the 360 is just easier to develope on and has better developement tools, games like UC and killzone are proof that with the right budget, the right support and using engines that are actually designed with the Ps3's architecture instead of third party multiplat engines designed for all 3 platforms, the Ps3 has marginally better graphics and more power than the 360.delta3074That's not what I meant. I know most multiplats look better on 360 even if marginally. What I was getting at is that you seem to be making a big deal about marginal differences in multiplats "because even a small win is a win(or something)" but now you're downplaying the difference in exclusive like it's no big deal.i said that the 360 has marginally better multiplats, the Ps3 has marginally better exclusives, how is that downplaying one over the other when i am describing them both as marginal? i don't see you point, if i said that the Ps3 had marginally better exclusives but multiplats on 360 where much better then i would be downplaying Ps3 excluisves but i am not saying that am i.
Dont even bother with him, he just a retard nothing more nothing less , i debunked like everything he came with yesterday.. he still kept tryin'' worst/most stupid i have faced yet..
[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]the 360 does win in multiplats but that has nothing to do with which system is more powerful, i have never said the 360 was more powerful, the truth is that multiplatsgenerally run better on the 360 but that's because it's architecture is more suited to the game engines that are used to create the games, it's architecture is very close to that of A PC's which are used to create the engines and games, the reason Ps3 multiplats tend to be worse is more down to it's unorthodox architecture than it is to do with Raw power, it's about ease of developement and the Fact that MS, being primarily a software company, has given developers better developement tools than SONY has, the bottom line is the 360 is just easier to develope on and has better developement tools, games like UC and killzone are proof that with the right budget, the right support and using engines that are actually designed with the Ps3's architecture instead of third party multiplat engines designed for all 3 platforms, the Ps3 has marginally better graphics and more power than the 360.delta3074That's not what I meant. I know most multiplats look better on 360 even if marginally. What I was getting at is that you seem to be making a big deal about marginal differences in multiplats "because even a small win is a win(or something)" but now you're downplaying the difference in exclusive like it's no big deal.i said that the 360 has marginally better multiplats, the Ps3 has marginally better exclusives, how is that downplaying one over the other when i am describing them both as marginal? i don't see you point, if i said that the Ps3 had marginally better exclusives but multiplats on 360 where much better then i would be downplaying Ps3 excluisves but i am not saying that am i. Ok looks like we're on the same page on this then
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