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#1 dvalo9
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Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

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#2 Heil68
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Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

dvalo9
Same with Netflix..absolutely no reason why you need a gold membership.
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#3 rasengan2552
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lol @ M$.

I can go on my PS3 and use all the features of Youtube right now ... for FREE, heck I can use a web browser for free.

I can go on iphone right now and use Youtube for free, no contract required just wi-fi.

MS is a joke.

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#4 MFDOOM1983
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Do you really want compressed videos on your tv that badly?
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#5 campzor
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and ps3 has had it forever for free... Though the ps3 version youtube is very bad.. better to just visit a random video through google and then go into youtube so you get the normal youtube. How is the youtube on 360? Is it its own "app" like on droids/ios?
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#6 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="dvalo9"]

Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

Heil68
Same with Netflix..absolutely no reason why you need a gold membership.

I think requiring Gold for Netflix is even worse than requiring it for Youtube, honestly.
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#7 silversix_
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Had no idea you couldn't use youtube without gold. This is pure fail from MS but what else do you actually get from them lately? More fail.

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Do you really want compressed videos on your tv that badly?MFDOOM1983
record timing for DC'ing.
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#9 Riverwolf007
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it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

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#10 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="dvalo9"] I think requiring Gold for Netflix is even worse than requiring it for Youtube, honestly.PurpleMan5000
Agreed.
[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Do you really want compressed videos on your tv that badly?rasengan2552
record timing for DC'ing.

I guess its easy to complain when you haven't used it. You can't even access vevo music videos.

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#11 rasengan2552
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it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

Riverwolf007
do people really go in a party and watch movies ??? please don't tell me people actually do that ... that is beyond lame ..
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I don't know.... But at least iPlayer will be available to all members (or it should be due to the license fee).
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#13 dvalo9
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Do you really want compressed videos on your tv that badly?MFDOOM1983
It's the principle of it. i don't want to have to change to ps3 to look at youtube with friends if we are playing the xbox.
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#14 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

rasengan2552

do people really go in a party and watch movies ??? please don't tell me people actually do that ... that is beyond lame ..

i have done it a few times with my friends when a new comedy comes out and we just want to laugh and shoot the breeze.

it's prolly different for me because i have a pile of real life friends on xbl.

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#15 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

rasengan2552
do people really go in a party and watch movies ??? please don't tell me people actually do that ... that is beyond lame ..

I thought they removed that feature.
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it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

Riverwolf007

You know its kind of funny lemmings always talk about Sony copying. This is kind of off topic, but did you know that that "siting in a funky little theatre watching a movie" Idea......microsoft blatantly stole that from Sony. Sony originally announced that to be a feature in Playstation Home when it was first revealed.

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#17 emorainbo
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[QUOTE="dvalo9"]

Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

Heil68

Same with Netflix..absolutely no reason why you need a gold membership.

Wait you need gold just to use Netflix!?!

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#18 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Do you really want compressed videos on your tv that badly?dvalo9
It's the principle of it. i don't want to have to change to ps3 to look at youtube with friends if we are playing the xbox.

1st world problems.:lol:

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#19 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

Riverwolf007

do people really go in a party and watch movies ??? please don't tell me people actually do that ... that is beyond lame ..

i have done it a few times with my friends when a new comedy comes out and we just want to laugh and shoot the breeze.

it's prolly different for me because i have a pile of real life friends on xbl.

gotcha ... Im old fashioned and prefer to interact with my friends IRL face to face and watch movies in the same vicinity.
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Not surprising,M$ usualy make people pay for things that should be free
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#21 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

MFDOOM1983

do people really go in a party and watch movies ??? please don't tell me people actually do that ... that is beyond lame ..

I thought they removed that feature.

maybe, it's probably been 7 or 8 months since i have done it.

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#22 dvalo9
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[QUOTE="dvalo9"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Do you really want compressed videos on your tv that badly?MFDOOM1983

It's the principle of it. i don't want to have to change to ps3 to look at youtube with friends if we are playing the xbox.

1st world problems.:lol:

Made me chuckle that :P
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#23 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

StrongDeadlift

You know its kind of funny lemmings always talk about Sony copying. This is kind of off topic, but did you know that that "siting in a funky little theatre watching a movie" Idea......microsoft blatantly stole that from Sony. Sony originally announced that to be a feature in Playstation Home when it was first revealed.

yeah then you go in there and it is a running loop of the the same trailer for 24 hours a day.

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#24 ShadowMoses900
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It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

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#25 lawlessx
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It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

ShadowMoses900

i knew you'd get atleast one wrong

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#26 heretrix
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Well then if you can do it for free elsewhere then do it and quit b***hing about it.

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#27 campzor
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

lawlessx

i knew you'd get atleast one wrong

dont you need gold for it?
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#28 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

lawlessx

i knew you'd get atleast one wrong

I ment cross chat, because my friend sent me an invite to an XBL party but I couldn't join because I wasn't Gold member.

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You can't even use the cloud storage without Gold, can't use Facebook without having Gold.

That's why I use my PS3 as a media hub instead. It does so much more than the 360 anyways in that department.

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#30 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

ShadowMoses900

i knew you'd get atleast one wrong

I ment cross chat, because my friend sent me an invite to an XBL party but I couldn't join because I wasn't Gold member.

really? will need to test that later..because im pretty sure silver memebers can join in party chat.
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It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

ShadowMoses900
To be fair, no one purchases Xbox Live for Facebook solely. It's for the main service which is online gaming, and it's been that way since 2001/2?
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#32 foxhound_fox
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Don't like it? Get a PC. Or a PS3. Microsoft offers a service that they charge for. If you don't like it, stop complaining and go somewhere else. They won't care if Mr. Dvalo9 isn't paying his $60 because of the 10 million+ other people who are.
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#33 heretrix
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You can't even use the cloud storage without Gold, can't use Facebook without having Gold.

That's why I use my PS3 as a media hub instead. It does so much more than the 360 anyways in that department.

Bigboi500

You do realize that you can't do cloud storage on the PS3 without PSN+ right?

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I don't think Youtube should allow it. MS tried the same with BBC iPlayer but the BBC had none of it and MS had to make it available to Silver members to use too.
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#35 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

i knew you'd get atleast one wrong

lawlessx

I ment cross chat, because my friend sent me an invite to an XBL party but I couldn't join because I wasn't Gold member.

really? will need to test that later..because im pretty sure silver memebers can join in party chat.

You have to be Gold Member, scroll down to features

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live

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#36 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

You can't even use the cloud storage without Gold, can't use Facebook without having Gold.

That's why I use my PS3 as a media hub instead. It does so much more than the 360 anyways in that department.

heretrix

You do realize that you can't do cloud storage on the PS3 without PSN+ right?

Being a PSN+ member of course I do. You can still use Facebook on PS3 without + though. The 360 just fails in comparison in the media features department. The PS3 will turn my HDTV on and off automatically, the PS3 lets you watch videos continuously without having to press "play" for each individual one, and of course it plays Blu Ray movies. It also turns off automatically after downloads if you want it too, the 360 doesn't do that either. I don't know why anyone would prefer to use the 360 over the PS3 for media convenience if they have both.

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#37 heretrix
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Don't like it? Get a PC. Or a PS3. Microsoft offers a service that they charge for. If you don't like it, stop complaining and go somewhere else. They won't care if Mr. Dvalo9 isn't paying his $60 because of the 10 million+ other people who are.foxhound_fox
And the PC is the way to go with this stuff anyway. Why in the hell would you use a piece of crap app over the superior PC interface in the first place? It's not like you need a gaming pc to run them. I know, I know it's convenient. Whatever. I guess it doesn't bother me because I have a HTPC in my living room and never use those stupid apps in the first place. But why would you have an xbox and not have live anyway. You might as well just have a PS3. The 360 has no games anyway, right?

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It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

ShadowMoses900

lol, rule 1 of spending money, everyone that spends money on stuff i like is smart and everone that spends money on stuff i don't like is an idiot.

i like bottled water, i don't make a habit of it but if i'm out and don't want to drink a soda or whatever i will buy one.

i'm not going to go into the stores bathroom and suck it out of the tap, sure it's cheaper to do that but ugh.

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#39 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

You can't even use the cloud storage without Gold, can't use Facebook without having Gold.

That's why I use my PS3 as a media hub instead. It does so much more than the 360 anyways in that department.

Bigboi500

You do realize that you can't do cloud storage on the PS3 without PSN+ right?

Being a PSN+ member of course I do. You can still use Facebook on PS3 without + though. The 360 just fails in comparison in the media features department. The PS3 will turn my HDTV on and off automatically, the PS3 lets you watch videos continuously without having to press "play" for each individual one, and of course it plays Blu Ray movies. It also turns off automatically after downloads if you want it too, the 360 doesn't do that either. I don't know why anyone would prefer to use the 360 over the PS3 for media convenience if they have both.

I understand the media functions but why even mention cloud storage? The PS3 has no advantage at all there.

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They have to have a few features reserved for Gold, to give people more of an incentive to pay.
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I don't play my 360 much anymore. There's only one game that I'd wanna play online, and that is the awesomely amazing Gears 3. But its still not enough for me to pay for Live Gold. If you let someone stick it in your bum, they'll continue to stick it until you say enough is enough.

If you have a gaming PC and a PS3, I seriously don't know why you should pay for Live. Perhaps for your XBL buddies? Well, that's a selling point I guess... Each person differs.

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I don't think Youtube should allow it. MS tried the same with BBC iPlayer but the BBC had none of it and MS had to make it available to Silver members to use too.SaltyMeatballs
I have to wonder if the Youtube app is lacking the ads that surround the standard site - from looking around it earlier it lacks it on the ui as a whole, but not sure if it eliminates ads prior to playing a video. Not saying it's right, but that could be a reason why MS justified making it available to Gold only.
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Wow that's terrible, isn't there ads in it as well? :lol:
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#44 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

Riverwolf007

lol, rule 1 of spending money, everyone that spends money on stuff i like is smart and everone that spends money on stuff i don't like is an idiot.

i like bottled water, i don't make a habit of it but if i'm out and don't want to drink a soda or whatever i will buy one.

i'm not going to go into the stores bathroom and suck it out of the tap, sure it's cheaper to do that but ugh.

Bottled water is just tap water, and not only that but it's harmful to the environment. The plastic they use in the bottles is really cheap and is meant to only be used once or twice, after that the plastic starts to break off, so if you buy a cheap bottle of water like Disani or whatever and you refill it more than twice, than you are actually drinking particles of plastic that get's mixed with the water.

And due to it being cheap plastic, it can't be recycled too well so it just sits in a landfill. Then you have the factories that produce the cheap plastic for the bottles and those hurt the lolcal animal habitats and the environement nearby.You can get the SAME thing for free, it's tap water. Actually it might be worse because they "purify" it of the natural resources and minerals in water. So your actually wasting money.

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#45 Ravensmash
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Wow that's terrible, isn't there ads in it as well? :lol:tomarlyn
No, not on the UI at all - have to commend it for being extremely clean. Havent tried a video but will now.
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And the PC is the way to go with this stuff anyway. Why in the hell would you use a piece of crap app over the superior PC interface in the first place? It's not like you need a gaming pc to run them. I know, I know it's convenient. Whatever. I guess it doesn't bother me because I have a HTPC in my living room and never use those stupid apps in the first place. But why would you have an xbox and not have live anyway. You might as well just have a PS3. The 360 has no games anyway, right?heretrix
Facebook on my phone >>> Facebook on the 360 I'm not sure why anyone would want to log into their Facebook on their gaming console. If I need to use FB, I use a device designed for a quick, intuitive interface with it (my phone) and keep my 360 for gaming.
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#47 campzor
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Wow that's terrible, isn't there ads in it as well? :lol:tomarlyn
its bad enough they are on the dashboard.
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#48 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]I don't think Youtube should allow it. MS tried the same with BBC iPlayer but the BBC had none of it and MS had to make it available to Silver members to use too.Ravensmash
I have to wonder if the Youtube app is lacking the ads that surround the standard site - from looking around it earlier it lacks it on the ui as a whole, but not sure if it eliminates ads prior to playing a video. Not saying it's right, but that could be a reason why MS justified making it available to Gold only.

I wouldn't look too deep into it. Here's their justification, "People are paying for Live anyways, so we can add this superfluous feature to make is seem like they are getting more." It's a smart business move lol.

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#49 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's MS, what do you expect?

They charge twice for Netflix

They charge for Facebook

They charge for Twitter

They charge for Party Chat

They charge for online multiplayer (the most ridiculous)

MS charges for things that are free, it's like their the bottled water companies.... What's funny though is watching people try and defend it, it's hilarious :lol:

ShadowMoses900

lol, rule 1 of spending money, everyone that spends money on stuff i like is smart and everone that spends money on stuff i don't like is an idiot.

i like bottled water, i don't make a habit of it but if i'm out and don't want to drink a soda or whatever i will buy one.

i'm not going to go into the stores bathroom and suck it out of the tap, sure it's cheaper to do that but ugh.

Bottled water is just tap water, and not only that but it's harmful to the environment. The plastic they use in the bottles is really cheap and is meant to only be used once or twice, after that the plastic starts to break off, so if you buy a cheap bottle of water like Disani or whatever and you refill it more than twice, than you are actually drinking particles of plastic that get's mixed with the water.

And due to it being cheap plastic, it can't be recycled too well so it just sits in a landfill. Then you have the factories that produce the cheap plastic for the bottles and those hurt the lolcal animal habitats and the environement nearby.You can get the SAME thing for free, it's tap water. Actually it might be worse because they "purify" it of the natural resources and minerals in water. So your actually wasting money.

yeah i know i'm wasting my moneyand there are actually even more negatives than you listed when you consider nestle and the like steal the water from communities. i do it for the convienience.

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s just tap water, and not only that but it's harmful to the environment. The plastic they use in the bottles is really cheap and is meant to only be used once or twice, after that the plastic starts to break off, so if you buy a cheap bottle of water like Disani or whatever and you refill it more than twice, than you are actually drinking particles of plastic that get's mixed with the water.

And due to it being cheap plastic, it can't be recycled too well so it just sits in a landfill. Then you have the factories that produce the cheap plastic for the bottles and those hurt the lolcal animal habitats and the environement nearby.You can get the SAME thing for free, it's tap water. Actually it might be worse because they "purify" it of the natural resources and minerals in water. So your actually wasting money.ShadowMoses900

C'mon this is way off topic and just reaching, leave this alone. and bottled water is not tap water, its distilled at the very least, some even come from glacier streams.