Xbox live gold requirement is getting ridiculous

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#101 Strutten
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Thats why its called the joke360 dude, $60 a year to use online? thats like a whole new game right there so GTFO MS

finalstar2007

Only 1 $/mif your gold runs out.. have been using that offer a few months now(could be something with regions that i dunno)or if you buy online 40 bucks isnt really that much if u ask me.. and seriously i must admit the kinect design and voice thing works pretty good for youtube "talking to your xbox, to find youtube songs works pretty neat"..
and why is ppl complaining about this in 2011 almost 12 ?, we knew this from the start.. but gold is worth especially now with all these new apps and such, it clearly got some benefits over psn thats for sure.. both play online yes we know, guess you get what you pay for ?

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#102 23Jarek23
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[QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

Gold equals about $5 a month. :? I find more then that on the sidewalks each month...

DireOwl

Of course theres always gotta be some donkey who has to mention that its only 5 dollars a month...you don't get it do you? type of guy who does as he's told without question because thats just the way it is right???

I never said I had gold...

So? neither did I...nevermind...

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#103 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="dvalo9"]

Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

mems_1224

actually you have to pay extra for a data plan in order to view youtube on your phone

youtube is free on Ps3 :o

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#104 DireOwl
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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

Gold equals about $5 a month. :? I find more then that on the sidewalks each month...

rasengan2552

This type of stupid hyperbole is why I can never take a 360 user seriously ... lmao

PS3 owners don't exaggerate? Although five dollars is chump change.

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#105 Miroku32
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Not surprising,M$ usualy make people pay for things that should be freeMonsieurX
And yet ppl pay for it sadly.
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#106 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

Gold equals about $5 a month. :? I find more then that on the sidewalks each month...

MLBknights58

Of course theres always gotta be some donkey who has to mention that its only 5 dollars a month...you don't get it do you? type of guy who does as he's told without question because thats just the way it is right???

Does what he's told..?

He has a point. I'm broke and I feel 60 bucks for a year is worth it. What are you getting at?

I just renewed mine for $40. And if you go to Amazon or other internet sites you'll find 12 month cards for far cheaper than $60. So I end up paying the equivalent of $3.33 per month. I have zero problems paying that for the performance of Xbox Live.

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#107 heeeeeeeeeweeee
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i can do youtube on my cellphone no big deal lol i watch ghost adventures on my cellphone.

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#108 23Jarek23
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[QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

Gold equals about $5 a month. :? I find more then that on the sidewalks each month...

mems_1224

Of course theres always gotta be some donkey who has to mention that its only 5 dollars a month...you don't get it do you? type of guy who does as he's told without question because thats just the way it is right???

if $60 is too much for you you picked the wrong hobby. maybe you should find something for poor people ;)

lol...man some of you guys are bright eh?

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#109 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

Gold equals about $5 a month. :? I find more then that on the sidewalks each month...

mems_1224

Of course theres always gotta be some donkey who has to mention that its only 5 dollars a month...you don't get it do you? type of guy who does as he's told without question because thats just the way it is right???

if $60 is too much for you you picked the wrong hobby. maybe you should find something for poor people ;)

Yeah he's poor I saw your childish remark coming from a mile away. That would be a compelling argument if the PS3 didn't cost more money right off the bat ($600 at launch) ... and even now its only dropped to $250 ... you can get brand new 360's for $150. sigh ...
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#110 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="dvalo9"]

Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

finalstar2007

actually you have to pay extra for a data plan in order to view youtube on your phone

youtube is free on Ps3 :o

great! if i ever turned on my ps3 i might care
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#111 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

Of course theres always gotta be some donkey who has to mention that its only 5 dollars a month...you don't get it do you? type of guy who does as he's told without question because thats just the way it is right???

rasengan2552

if $60 is too much for you you picked the wrong hobby. maybe you should find something for poor people ;)

Yeah he's poor I saw your childish remark coming from a mile away. That would be a compelling argument if the PS3 didn't cost more money right off the bat ($600 at launch) ... and even now its only dropped to $250 ... you can get brand new 360's for $150. sigh ...

buying a ps3 for $600 has nothing to do with being rich or poor. its just stupid

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#112 Strutten
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="dvalo9"]

Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

finalstar2007

actually you have to pay extra for a data plan in order to view youtube on your phone

youtube is free on Ps3 :o

its free yes, but very "sucky" on psn, youtube on xbox is like on pc, but with a different design
and like i said, we have paid for live for years, and when something is free comes on xbox ppl complain.. but still we have paid since launch ppl's logic in here damn

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#113 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

Of course theres always gotta be some donkey who has to mention that its only 5 dollars a month...you don't get it do you? type of guy who does as he's told without question because thats just the way it is right???

rasengan2552

if $60 is too much for you you picked the wrong hobby. maybe you should find something for poor people ;)

Yeah he's poor I saw your childish remark coming from a mile away. That would be a compelling argument if the PS3 didn't cost more money right off the bat ($600 at launch) ... and even now its only dropped to $250 ... you can get brand new 360's for $150. sigh ...

What does that have to do with Xbox Live? Xbox Live four years ago was better than PSN today in terms of performance for gaming.

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#114 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

Of course theres always gotta be some donkey who has to mention that its only 5 dollars a month...you don't get it do you? type of guy who does as he's told without question because thats just the way it is right???

23Jarek23

if $60 is too much for you you picked the wrong hobby. maybe you should find something for poor people ;)

lol...man some of you guys are bright eh?

what do you care what other people use their money for?
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#115 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] actually you have to pay extra for a data plan in order to view youtube on your phoneStrutten

youtube is free on Ps3 :o

its free yes, but very "sucky" on psn, youtube on xbox is like on pc, but with a different design
and like i said, we have paid for live for years, and when something is free comes on xbox ppl complain.. but still we have paid since launch ppl's logic in here damn

seriously. im already a gold member so who cares? lol if you dont pay for live you obviously dont care about the online features of the xbox so who cares if youtube is gold members only?? cows are dumb

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#116 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] if $60 is too much for you you picked the wrong hobby. maybe you should find something for poor people ;)mems_1224

lol...man some of you guys are bright eh?

what do you care what other people use their money for?

Like I said earlier most people on the internets that complain about the Xbox Live gold prices don't pay for it in the first place. And the vast majority that do pay for it have no problems paying for it.

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#117 Strutten
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[QUOTE="Strutten"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

youtube is free on Ps3 :o

mems_1224

its free yes, but very "sucky" on psn, youtube on xbox is like on pc, but with a different design
and like i said, we have paid for live for years, and when something is free comes on xbox ppl complain.. but still we have paid since launch ppl's logic in here damn

seriously. im already a gold member so who cares? lol if you dont pay for live you obviously dont care about the online features of the xbox so who cares if youtube is gold members only?? cows are dumb

My words exactly, somehow they need to bash everything.. its not we only got youtube, but a bunch of stuff right now and more to come.. but right now the youtube functions actually work very well with kinect and the new design pretty neat :) anyway let them have their fun gl

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#118 23Jarek23
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] if $60 is too much for you you picked the wrong hobby. maybe you should find something for poor people ;)mems_1224

Yeah he's poor I saw your childish remark coming from a mile away. That would be a compelling argument if the PS3 didn't cost more money right off the bat ($600 at launch) ... and even now its only dropped to $250 ... you can get brand new 360's for $150. sigh ...

buying a ps3 for $600 has nothing to do with being rich or poor. its just stupid

Same as paying for a service you can get for free elsewhere, on other consoles...haha hell you are dumb...it has nothing to do with having money, or the lack of it...financial status aside, it's the fact that the masses are bending over and taking it from microsoft...society as a whole has gone to crap because people allow to be taken advantage of...but hey, typical americans are typical...hows your debt son? bet it's lookin pretty sweet to your bank...

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#119 heretrix
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[QUOTE="dvalo9"]

Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

mems_1224

actually you have to pay extra for a data plan in order to view youtube on your phone

Shhhsh. Not to mention that they seem to think it's ok to pay 60 bucks a year for a service that gives you random games you MIGHT like every month. And paying for discounts. Holy S**t that's smart.

I don't understand why there is so much fuss over them adding "features" to a premium account. Even if they are free elsewhere you aren't paying extra for them if you have a gold subscription. If you have a silver account they just aren't available to you, it's not like they are charging for the apps separately..On top of that there are other places you can get them for free if you want to use them.

The only people I ever hear b**ching about this all the time are the same people that wouldn't get the service in the first goddamn place.Personally I'm not too happy about the sub fee, but for right now it works best for me and my friends as I think XBL's community features are better thought out than PSNs. I think all of the apps suck, but I have a HTPC so, whatever, I never even look at them.

But these goddamn threads, it's the same droning BS all the f**king time.You don't think it has value so everybody else is stupid. GTFO with that lameass BS.

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#120 Alpha-Male22
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If MS makes this available to silver members, people complain that XBL Gold isn't worth it If MS makes this available to just gold members, people complain that XBL Gold is unfair
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#121 23Jarek23
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[QUOTE="23Jarek23"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] if $60 is too much for you you picked the wrong hobby. maybe you should find something for poor people ;)mems_1224

lol...man some of you guys are bright eh?

what do you care what other people use their money for?

lol read both of your posts in that quote up there, contradict some more...idiot.

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#122 MLBknights58
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] Yeah he's poor I saw your childish remark coming from a mile away. That would be a compelling argument if the PS3 didn't cost more money right off the bat ($600 at launch) ... and even now its only dropped to $250 ... you can get brand new 360's for $150. sigh ...23Jarek23

buying a ps3 for $600 has nothing to do with being rich or poor. its just stupid

Same as paying for a service you can get for free elsewhere, on other consoles...haha hell you are dumb...it has nothing to do with having money, or the lack of it...financial status aside, it's the fact that the masses are bending over and taking it from microsoft...society as a whole has gone to crap because people allow to be taken advantage of...but hey, typical americans are typical...hows your debt son? bet it's lookin pretty sweet to your bank...

LOL wow. Just wow.

And no, PSN service is not XBL service. I have no problems paying 60 bucks (or KC Hokie says he gets it cheaper elsewhere) for an experience that more than justifies the price. Who the f*** are you to tell me what my money is worth or isn't worth?

Way to bring in national debt onto a forum about gaming systems. Well done sir.

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Don't like it? Get a PC. Or a PS3. Microsoft offers a service that they charge for. If you don't like it, stop complaining and go somewhere else. They won't care if Mr. Dvalo9 isn't paying his $60 because of the 10 million+ other people who are.foxhound_fox
right on... most people that have a 360 just gets the 1 year gold card each year and doesnt wory about it. like tax return time, christmas, or their birthday
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#124 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Don't like it? Get a PC. Or a PS3. Microsoft offers a service that they charge for. If you don't like it, stop complaining and go somewhere else. They won't care if Mr. Dvalo9 isn't paying his $60 because of the 10 million+ other people who are.monson21502
right on... most people that have a 360 just gets the 1 year gold card each year and doesnt wory about it. like tax return time, christmas, or their birthday

What a horrible thing to spend tax return money, christmas money or birthday money on lmao. "what are you going buy with the birthday money I gave you ?" "I'm gonna renew my subscription to XBOX Live" :lol: P.S. : who the hell gets "christmas money" ? wtf ?
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#125 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="dvalo9"]

Seriosly a gold membership is needed just to use youtube?

this is a service that most phones can use for free, why do microsoft feel they have the right to charge for an otherwise free service.

heretrix

actually you have to pay extra for a data plan in order to view youtube on your phone

Shhhsh. Not to mention that they seem to think it's ok to pay 60 bucks a year for a service that gives you random games you MIGHT like every month. And paying for discounts. Holy S**t that's smart.

I don't understand why there is so much fuss over them adding "features" to a premium account. Even if they are free elsewhere you aren't paying extra for them if you have a gold subscription. If you have a silver account they just aren't available to you, it's not like they are charging for the apps separately..On top of that there are other places you can get them for free if you want to use them.

The only people I ever hear b**ching about this all the time are the same people that wouldn't get the service in the first goddamn place.Personally I'm not too happy about the sub fee, but for right now it works best for me and my friends as I think XBL's community features are better thought out than PSNs. I think all of the apps suck, but I have a HTPC so, whatever, I never even look at them.

But these goddamn threads, it's the same droning BS all the f**king time.You don't think it has value so everybody else is stupid. GTFO with that lameass BS.

exactly. no one WANTS to pay $60 a year for the service. but as long as live is the best online service available ill pay for it.
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#126 heretrix
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[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Don't like it? Get a PC. Or a PS3. Microsoft offers a service that they charge for. If you don't like it, stop complaining and go somewhere else. They won't care if Mr. Dvalo9 isn't paying his $60 because of the 10 million+ other people who are.rasengan2552
right on... most people that have a 360 just gets the 1 year gold card each year and doesnt wory about it. like tax return time, christmas, or their birthday

What a horrible thing to spend tax return money, christmas money or birthday money on lmao. "what are you going buy with the birthday money I gave you ?" "I'm gonna renew my subscription to XBOX Live" :lol: P.S. : who the hell gets "christmas money" ? wtf ?

You laugh but it happens all the time. Who gets christmas money? Why are you asking that? aren't all XBLA subscribers 12 year olds? Yes Virginia, people get chrismas money. Even adults. I get what they call a Christmas bonus.

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#127 delta3074
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[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Don't like it? Get a PC. Or a PS3. Microsoft offers a service that they charge for. If you don't like it, stop complaining and go somewhere else. They won't care if Mr. Dvalo9 isn't paying his $60 because of the 10 million+ other people who are.rasengan2552
right on... most people that have a 360 just gets the 1 year gold card each year and doesnt wory about it. like tax return time, christmas, or their birthday

What a horrible thing to spend tax return money, christmas money or birthday money on lmao. "what are you going buy with the birthday money I gave you ?" "I'm gonna renew my subscription to XBOX Live" :lol: P.S. : who the hell gets "christmas money" ? wtf ?

i get christmas money from my mother instead of presents, i don't pay for my XBL gold with it though, i am probably going to cancel mine cos i don't use it, i don't play online, i don't find it interesting.
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[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Don't like it? Get a PC. Or a PS3. Microsoft offers a service that they charge for. If you don't like it, stop complaining and go somewhere else. They won't care if Mr. Dvalo9 isn't paying his $60 because of the 10 million+ other people who are.rasengan2552
right on... most people that have a 360 just gets the 1 year gold card each year and doesnt wory about it. like tax return time, christmas, or their birthday

What a horrible thing to spend tax return money, christmas money or birthday money on lmao. "what are you going buy with the birthday money I gave you ?" "I'm gonna renew my subscription to XBOX Live" :lol: P.S. : who the hell gets "christmas money" ? wtf ?

I have no idea how old some of you people are but I pay more for a gym membership in one month than a pay for Xbox Live in a year. And if I felt Xbox Live wasn't worth it I would stop paying. I own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 and choose to do my mp gaming on Xbox 360 because it's a better service. And I have no problems paying the equivalent of $3.33 per month for that superior mp gaming experience.

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#129 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] Yeah he's poor I saw your childish remark coming from a mile away. That would be a compelling argument if the PS3 didn't cost more money right off the bat ($600 at launch) ... and even now its only dropped to $250 ... you can get brand new 360's for $150. sigh ...23Jarek23

buying a ps3 for $600 has nothing to do with being rich or poor. its just stupid

Same as paying for a service you can get for free elsewhere, on other consoles...haha hell you are dumb...it has nothing to do with having money, or the lack of it...financial status aside, it's the fact that the masses are bending over and taking it from microsoft...society as a whole has gone to crap because people allow to be taken advantage of...but hey, typical americans are typical...hows your debt son? bet it's lookin pretty sweet to your bank...

maybe i dont like psn because its crap and i feel live is worth paying for a better experience? people pay $60 for a game they'll play for maybe a month and then never again. how is that worth more money than paying for a great online service for a year?
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#130 MLBknights58
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="monson21502"] right on... most people that have a 360 just gets the 1 year gold card each year and doesnt wory about it. like tax return time, christmas, or their birthdayKC_Hokie

What a horrible thing to spend tax return money, christmas money or birthday money on lmao. "what are you going buy with the birthday money I gave you ?" "I'm gonna renew my subscription to XBOX Live" :lol: P.S. : who the hell gets "christmas money" ? wtf ?

I have no idea how old some of you people are but I pay more for a gym membership in one month than a pay for Xbox Live in a year. And if I felt Xbox Live wasn't worth it I would stop paying. I own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 and choose to to my mp gaming on Xbox 360 because it's a better service. And I have no problems paying the equivalent of $3.33 per month for that superior mp gaming experience.

So true about the gym membership... :cry:

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#131 Lionheart08
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Yeah, making features like Netflix "gold exclusive" is weak, especially since you can stream for free o the PS3, Wii, and Tablets, PC, etc. Xbox is the only thing that charges you something to be able to use it.

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#132 ShadowriverUB
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First of all to OP:

Finally someone on SW other then me seeing this BS

it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

Riverwolf007

Then why block the whole service then single features?

You wanna know why they 360 is only console this gen without browser? because they want ot resell it's services and make you think it's actully fair XD

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#134 White_Dreams
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I can't beleive people are so defensive about this, it's like they can't comprehend why someone would think this practice is a rip off, if they really think about it I think it would come clear.
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#135 KC_Hokie
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I can't beleive people are so defensive about this, it's like they can't comprehend why someone would think this practice is a rip off, if they really think about it I think it would come clear.White_Dreams
Ok...but I would argue the people making these arguments either don't pay for Xbox Live or even own an Xbox 360 in the first place.
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#136 heretrix
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You wanna know why they 360 is only console this gen without browser? because they want ot resell it's services and make you think it's actully fair XD

ShadowriverUB

Or maybe it's unnecessary since everyone already has a PC. But you might be right except: They don't charge you for the services. The services cost nothing you just need a gold membership to access them. There's a difference and always the option to use the free versions elsewhere in stead of whining about it.

It's not fair :cry:

Jesus.

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#137 delta3074
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some people are really purile on this board, the ' i don't see value in it so you are stupid for paying for it' or 'i don't see value in it so you are getting ripped off' attitudes are just plain immature, it's also kid of scary how some people are clearly obsessed with what other people spend there money on, i am gonna cancel my gold because i personally don't see value in it myself but i understand that other people do and ,quite frankly, what they spend there money on is entirely up to them,it's clear that XBL is a superior gaming service to PSN, some people are prepared to pay extra for quality, nothing wrong with that, i bet half the people who complain about XBL fee's probably all wear addidas and wouldn't touch cheap clothes,lol
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#138 heretrix
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I can't beleive people are so defensive about this, it's like they can't comprehend why someone would think this practice is a rip off, if they really think about it I think it would come clear.White_Dreams
And it's like you can't comprehend why some people find value in it even after they have told you why. What makes you right and them wrong?

The truth of the matter is nobody is right or wrong because people have different needs and see value differently. So if you don't want it STFU and let people waste their money. You aren't going to convince them otherwise by calling them stupid or defensive.

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#139 MLBknights58
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]I can't beleive people are so defensive about this, it's like they can't comprehend why someone would think this practice is a rip off, if they really think about it I think it would come clear.KC_Hokie
Ok...but I would argue the people making these arguments either don't pay for Xbox Live or even own an Xbox 360 in the first place.

I don't think anyone would get defensive about XBL if someone didn't come out and say "You're just bending over for MS and you're stupid for doing it."

What? I'm paying for a service that I thoroughly enjoy and feel that it is completely worth and it I'm stupid? I don't even use the features like Netflix, Youtube, ESPN either, I have a TV and a PC for that, so essentially I'm paying 60 bucks to play online and talk to family and friends.

But that last part is what is key, and what makes XBL such an enjoyable and worthwhile thing for me.

If someone thinks it's a rip-off, more power to them. I don't give a damn. But don't come out and attack other XBL subscribers.

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#140 delta3074
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First of all to OP:

Finally someone on SW other then me seeing this BS

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

it's because all the xbl stuff is still avalible.

in netflix you can join a party and everyone can watch a movie together where you sit in this funky little theatre.

it's silly but you still have to pay for that stuff.

ShadowriverUB

Then why block the whole service then single features?

You wanna know why they 360 is only console this gen without browser? because they want ot resell it's services and make you think it's actully fair XD

wrong, the reason the 360 doesn't have a browser is because it would be more open to hacking and would be a security liability, it's a closed serice for a reason.
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#141 heretrix
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some people are really purile on this board, the ' i don't see value in it so you are stupid for paying for it' or 'i don't see value in it so you are getting ripped off' attitudes are just plain immature, it's also kid of scary how some people are clearly obsessed with what other people spend there money on, i am gonna cancel my gold because i personally don't see value in it myself but i understand that other people do and ,quite frankly, what they spend there money on is entirely up to them,it's clear that XBL is a superior gaming service to PSN, some people are prepared to pay extra for quality, nothing wrong with that, i bet half the people who complain about XBL fee's probably all wear addidas and wouldn't touch cheap clothes,lol delta3074
Exactly. I'm sure a lot of the people complaining waste money on crappy bands in concert, stupid clothes and bad food. And I'm sure they get defensive when people tell them that they are wasting their money.

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#142 turtlethetaffer
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This is why I don't have Xbox live.

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#143 musicalmac  Moderator
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YouTube on the PS3 is not good. It is adequate. So what if you have to have a Gold membership for YouTube on XBL.
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#144 musicalmac  Moderator
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This is why I don't have Xbox live.

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So you can't do all the extra fun stuff? That's some rock-solid reasoning.
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#145 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

This is why I don't have Xbox live.

musicalmac

So you can't do all the extra fun stuff? That's some rock-solid reasoning.

Well I'm not paying for something that should come with the system. This is why I play SP centered games on 360. I have already paid for the game, I'm not paying extra to have access to a feature that is already on the disk. And I honeslty don't care about extra stuff on the console. Cool for those who do but I don't.

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#146 musicalmac  Moderator
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Well I'm not paying for something that should come with the system. This is why I play SP centered games on 360. I have already paid for the game, I'm not paying extra to have access to a feature that is already on the disk. And I honeslty don't care about extra stuff on the console. Cool for those who do but I don't.

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Why should it come with the system for free?
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#147 heretrix
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

This is why I don't have Xbox live.

turtlethetaffer

So you can't do all the extra fun stuff? That's some rock-solid reasoning.

Well I'm not paying for something that should come with the system. This is why I play SP centered games on 360. I have already paid for the game, I'm not paying extra to have access to a feature that is already on the disk. And I honeslty don't care about extra stuff on the console. Cool for those who do but I don't.

That actually is rock solid reasoning.

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Shhhsh. Not to mention that they seem to think it's ok to pay 60 bucks a year for a service that gives you random games you MIGHT like every month. And paying for discounts. Holy S**t that's smart.

I don't understand why there is so much fuss over them adding "features" to a premium account. Even if they are free elsewhere you aren't paying extra for them if you have a gold subscription. If you have a silver account they just aren't available to you, it's not like they are charging for the apps separately..On top of that there are other places you can get them for free if you want to use them.

The only people I ever hear b**ching about this all the time are the same people that wouldn't get the service in the first goddamn place.Personally I'm not too happy about the sub fee, but for right now it works best for me and my friends as I think XBL's community features are better thought out than PSNs. I think all of the apps suck, but I have a HTPC so, whatever, I never even look at them.

But these goddamn threads, it's the same droning BS all the f**king time.You don't think it has value so everybody else is stupid. GTFO with that lameass BS.

heretrix

Ask yourself for what you pay to your ISP, then ask yourself if you pay to ISP ahy you need to pay for acessing THOSE apis that you can any device, again ANY device connected to internet (and you for that to ISP) can access for free:

http://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/api/

http://dev.twitter.com/

http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/overview.html

You can't call that anything other then BS, because it is BS as you can see. You payed ISP to access to internet and you got access to those services... why the hell you need to pay again to use it on single device?

Yea Live got cool community features that if you really want to pay for them go ahead, but paying to access to something that is free stinks

Btw, also think why Live is payed when Steam is not even for basic multiplayer services? Interesting isn't?

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#149 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Well I'm not paying for something that should come with the system. This is why I play SP centered games on 360. I have already paid for the game, I'm not paying extra to have access to a feature that is already on the disk. And I honeslty don't care about extra stuff on the console. Cool for those who do but I don't.

musicalmac

Why should it come with the system for free?

Because I already paid for the system? Consoles aren't cheap. (It was in my case because I bought from a friend but you get my point.) And yeah, the game thing is just unacceptable to me.

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#150 MLBknights58
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Shhhsh. Not to mention that they seem to think it's ok to pay 60 bucks a year for a service that gives you random games you MIGHT like every month. And paying for discounts. Holy S**t that's smart.

I don't understand why there is so much fuss over them adding "features" to a premium account. Even if they are free elsewhere you aren't paying extra for them if you have a gold subscription. If you have a silver account they just aren't available to you, it's not like they are charging for the apps separately..On top of that there are other places you can get them for free if you want to use them.

The only people I ever hear b**ching about this all the time are the same people that wouldn't get the service in the first goddamn place.Personally I'm not too happy about the sub fee, but for right now it works best for me and my friends as I think XBL's community features are better thought out than PSNs. I think all of the apps suck, but I have a HTPC so, whatever, I never even look at them.

But these goddamn threads, it's the same droning BS all the f**king time.You don't think it has value so everybody else is stupid. GTFO with that lameass BS.

ShadowriverUB

Ask yourself for what you pay to your ISP, then ask yourself if you pay to ISP ahy you need to pay for acessing THOSE apis that you can any device, again ANY device connected to internet (and you for that to ISP) can access for free:

http://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/api/

http://dev.twitter.com/

http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/overview.html

You can't call that anything other then BS, because it is BS as you can see. You payed ISP to access to internet and you got access to those services... why the hell you need to pay again to use it on single device?

Yea Live got cool community features that if you really want to pay for them go ahead, but paying to access to something that is free stinks

Btw, also think why Live is payed when Steam is not even for basic multiplayer services? Interesting isn't?

If you don't think it's worth it, don't pay for it.