Xbox Live >>> PC online

Yeah , and im Brad pitt and make love to Angelina Jolie.!!

Wake up...

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

P2P-false live doesnt work in a p2p network structure

lag- either your connection or the hosts connection

petite maps- ?

petite max players limits- 32 max players in pdz

no mods

limited options

laughable selection of downloadable games

Dur_Rocky

Laughable game selection?:roll: Live arecade is freaking awsome

It is? Then why are almost half the games based off flash games/freeware?

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yeah and it's free... not like gold.

Bebi_vegeta

O.K. ?

In order play a xbox 360 online, you need the game plus the gold account... nothing free here.

For the PC you just need the game, steam is a nice free add-on.

What about content?Live has movies,tv shows,music videos,soon to be Netflix,arcade.

www.steampowered.com

dgsag

/THREAD

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yeah and it's free... not like gold.

killab2oo5

O.K. ?

In order play a xbox 360 online, you need the game plus the gold account... nothing free here.

For the PC you just need the game, steam is a nice free add-on.

What about content?Live has movies,tv shows,music videos,soon to be Netflix,arcade.

PC has all of that -.-

Netflix runs through your PC, and has for over a year if I remember... Music videos? Uh, haven't you ever heard of YouTube? Arcade? Um, there's a lot more FREE games than on XBLA...where do you think most of these game ideas came from? Flash games from places like Newground.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yeah and it's free... not like gold.

killab2oo5

O.K. ?

In order play a xbox 360 online, you need the game plus the gold account... nothing free here.

For the PC you just need the game, steam is a nice free add-on.

What about content?Live has movies,tv shows,music videos,soon to be Netflix,arcade.

And the pc has had that for ages, PC has had digital distribution for over a decade...

Your argument fails now, where do you think xbox live came with these features, by themselves?No, everything is a rip off for the pc, conveniently brought to their console and people are charged for the convinience....

PC has everything xbox live has and more and you don't have to pay to access them...

I can't believe how much of a sad blind lemming you are, even lemmings would've stopped at this point, but now you're just pitifully trying to defend your 50 dollar a year investment...

Give it up, pc had everything xbox live has for over a decade and more, for free....just give it up and admit ownage..

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yeah and it's free... not like gold.

killab2oo5

O.K. ?

In order play a xbox 360 online, you need the game plus the gold account... nothing free here.

For the PC you just need the game, steam is a nice free add-on.

What about content?Live has movies,tv shows,music videos,soon to be Netflix,arcade.

Well as for me... I barely use steam or any program... So I won't be the one to tell you. Like I said, Steam is an add on... and it just gets better with time.

As for movies and others... what do you think the internet is for? pRon?!?!

You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzFFXIII360

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yeah and it's free... not like gold.

gasmaskman

O.K. ?

In order play a xbox 360 online, you need the game plus the gold account... nothing free here.

For the PC you just need the game, steam is a nice free add-on.

What about content?Live has movies,tv shows,music videos,soon to be Netflix,arcade.

PC has all of that -.-

Netflix runs through your PC, and has for over a year if I remember... Music videos? Uh, haven't you ever heard of YouTube? Arcade? Um, there's a lot more FREE games than on XBLA...where do you think most of these game ideas came from? Flash games from places like Newground.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yeah and it's free... not like gold.

Bebi_vegeta

O.K. ?

In order play a xbox 360 online, you need the game plus the gold account... nothing free here.

For the PC you just need the game, steam is a nice free add-on.

What about content?Live has movies,tv shows,music videos,soon to be Netflix,arcade.

Well as for me... I barely use steam or any program... So I won't be the one to tell you. Like I said, Steam is an add on... and it just gets better with time.

As for movies and others... what do you think the internet is for? pRon?!?!

[QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzVandalvideo

well xbox live is by far the most unified online serviceParadiddleFill

This what makes it better than PC Online, plus private servers stagnate.

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yeah and it's free... not like gold.

killab2oo5

O.K. ?

In order play a xbox 360 online, you need the game plus the gold account... nothing free here.

For the PC you just need the game, steam is a nice free add-on.

What about content?Live has movies,tv shows,music videos,soon to be Netflix,arcade.

PC has all of that -.-

Netflix runs through your PC, and has for over a year if I remember... Music videos? Uh, haven't you ever heard of YouTube? Arcade? Um, there's a lot more FREE games than on XBLA...where do you think most of these game ideas came from? Flash games from places like Newground.

there's a reason for that, and that's because there isn't a "first party" developer for the PC because it's not made by a single company. The reason it is for XBL is because Microsoft can do whatever they want, and they can control it all very easily with the achievements and XBL store and all that. In PC you have many different ways to get things and it'd be impossible for one developer or company to unify as well as XBL has because XBL is the only thing you can have on your 360, whereas on the PC you have so many different options and ways to get access you can't compare them. Well, you can, but PC>XBL.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzHuusAsking

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzHuusAsking

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

killab2oo5

Free vs not free... hmmm ok.

Edit : you can check out the name of the thread... xbox live vs pc online.

OMG end this thread now.

/thread.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzHuusAsking

only on un-regulated servers...join a regulated clan server, and you will never see hackers.

there's a reason for that, and that's because there isn't a "first party" developer for the PC because it's not made by a single company. The reason it is for XBL is because Microsoft can do whatever they want, and they can control it all very easily with the achievements and XBL store and all that. In PC you have many different ways to get things and it'd be impossible for one developer or company to unify as well as XBL has because XBL is the only thing you can have on your 360, whereas on the PC you have so many different options and ways to get access you can't compare them. Well, you can, but PC>XBL.

gasmaskman

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"]

there's a reason for that, and that's because there isn't a "first party" developer for the PC because it's not made by a single company. The reason it is for XBL is because Microsoft can do whatever they want, and they can control it all very easily with the achievements and XBL store and all that. In PC you have many different ways to get things and it'd be impossible for one developer or company to unify as well as XBL has because XBL is the only thing you can have on your 360, whereas on the PC you have so many different options and ways to get access you can't compare them. Well, you can, but PC>XBL.

killab2oo5

Yet you have the freedom of choice to decide what to use on PC. Just because it's unified doesn't make it better. You're forced to use MS points, pay for DLC, and then you have all the XBLA games that are free on PC because that's where they originated. Unified isn't a valid point when it costs $$$ when I get it for free on PC, and BETTER.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzcobrax75

only on un-regulated servers...join a regulated clan server, and you will never see hackers.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzHuusAsking

only on un-regulated servers...join a regulated clan server, and you will never see hackers.

Do you have any clue what you're talking about?

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"]

there's a reason for that, and that's because there isn't a "first party" developer for the PC because it's not made by a single company. The reason it is for XBL is because Microsoft can do whatever they want, and they can control it all very easily with the achievements and XBL store and all that. In PC you have many different ways to get things and it'd be impossible for one developer or company to unify as well as XBL has because XBL is the only thing you can have on your 360, whereas on the PC you have so many different options and ways to get access you can't compare them. Well, you can, but PC>XBL.

gasmaskman

Yet you have the freedom of choice to decide what to use on PC. Just because it's unified doesn't make it better. You're forced to use MS points, pay for DLC, and then you have all the XBLA games that are free on PC because that's where they originated. Unified isn't a valid point when it costs $$$ when I get it for free on PC, and BETTER.

VAC-proof means they can't be detected. You never see hackers because the hackers can't be differentiated from actual players.HuusAsking

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Bebi_vegeta

Free vs not free... hmmm ok.

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"]

there's a reason for that, and that's because there isn't a "first party" developer for the PC because it's not made by a single company. The reason it is for XBL is because Microsoft can do whatever they want, and they can control it all very easily with the achievements and XBL store and all that. In PC you have many different ways to get things and it'd be impossible for one developer or company to unify as well as XBL has because XBL is the only thing you can have on your 360, whereas on the PC you have so many different options and ways to get access you can't compare them. Well, you can, but PC>XBL.

killab2oo5

Because there is no need for that on the PC. Pc have dedicated tools for all your needs.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

killab2oo5

Free vs not free... hmmm ok.

Really? I didnt know that Live had Mod Support, Dedicaded server support for every game, or let you download full games.

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"]

there's a reason for that, and that's because there isn't a "first party" developer for the PC because it's not made by a single company. The reason it is for XBL is because Microsoft can do whatever they want, and they can control it all very easily with the achievements and XBL store and all that. In PC you have many different ways to get things and it'd be impossible for one developer or company to unify as well as XBL has because XBL is the only thing you can have on your 360, whereas on the PC you have so many different options and ways to get access you can't compare them. Well, you can, but PC>XBL.

HuusAsking

Yet you have the freedom of choice to decide what to use on PC. Just because it's unified doesn't make it better. You're forced to use MS points, pay for DLC, and then you have all the XBLA games that are free on PC because that's where they originated. Unified isn't a valid point when it costs $$$ when I get it for free on PC, and BETTER.

My grandma can use YouTube... I don't really know how much simpler opening firefox, typing in "youtube.com" and then searching for something can be that difficult.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzgasmaskman

only on un-regulated servers...join a regulated clan server, and you will never see hackers.

Do you have any clue what you're talking about?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

killab2oo5

Free vs not free... hmmm ok.

STEAM is a free add on!!!!!! But microsoft forced Xbox live crap down your throat and you seem to like it... yeah keep paying for service that are free on PC.

Umm OK this then?

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/mar07/03-14G4WandXboxLIVEPR.mspx

"In addition, Games for Windows - LIVE introduces the best of XboxLIVE functionality to please PC gamers, such as in-game voice chat, integrated achievements and dedicated servers. The offering of both Silver and Gold memberships will remain in place for gamers on the Xbox 360 and Windows PC. There is no cost associated with signing up for a Silver membership. Gold memberships will deliver the premium online network experience for $49.95 (U.S.) per year. Current XboxLIVE Gold members will automatically have access to Gold features on Games for Windows - LIVE titles."

Yet you have the freedom of choice to decide what to use on PC. Just because it's unified doesn't make it better. You're forced to use MS points, pay for DLC, and then you have all the XBLA games that are free on PC because that's where they originated. Unified isn't a valid point when it costs $$$ when I get it for free on PC, and BETTER.

gasmaskman

Can you provide some statistics on most XBLA games being originated on PC?Not saying your wrong,but i'm not really into flash games.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

Online PC gaming>Live
Live>Steam - Live offers way more content than Steam does. As far as my knowledge there is no 1 unified gaming prog as robust as Live.

killab2oo5

Steam is free...

Developers don't provide servers for their games and when they do(eg- WoW) you pay monthly.

Yes I do. Hash checking can be beaten with a hash collision hack. Aimbots can be made simulate actual motions and only really lock on when you're reasonably close to a person. And what about wallhacks since they don't put signatures on textures?HuusAsking

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]VAC-proof means they can't be detected. You never see hackers because the hackers can't be differentiated from actual players.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="gasmaskman"]

there's a reason for that, and that's because there isn't a "first party" developer for the PC because it's not made by a single company. The reason it is for XBL is because Microsoft can do whatever they want, and they can control it all very easily with the achievements and XBL store and all that. In PC you have many different ways to get things and it'd be impossible for one developer or company to unify as well as XBL has because XBL is the only thing you can have on your 360, whereas on the PC you have so many different options and ways to get access you can't compare them. Well, you can, but PC>XBL.

HuusAsking

Yet you have the freedom of choice to decide what to use on PC. Just because it's unified doesn't make it better. You're forced to use MS points, pay for DLC, and then you have all the XBLA games that are free on PC because that's where they originated. Unified isn't a valid point when it costs $$$ when I get it for free on PC, and BETTER.

LOL, that was the weak sauce... If windows is complicated then xbox live is what?

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Yes I do. Hash checking can be beaten with a hash collision hack. Aimbots can be made simulate actual motions and only really lock on when you're reasonably close to a person. And what about wallhacks since they don't put signatures on textures?Vandalvideo

Umm OK this then?

IgorVitaly

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Yes I do. Hash checking can be beaten with a hash collision hack. Aimbots can be made simulate actual motions and only really lock on when you're reasonably close to a person. And what about wallhacks since they don't put signatures on textures?HuusAsking

[QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzVandalvideo

PK doesn't work that great which is why you used the word practically

Link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZjKScddEPU

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Bebi_vegeta

Free vs not free... hmmm ok.

STEAM is a free add on!!!!!! But microsoft forced Xbox live crap down your throat and you seem to like it... yeah keep paying for service that are free on PC.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzFFXIII360

PK doesn't work that great which is why you used the word practically

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

killab2oo5

Free vs not free... hmmm ok.

STEAM is a free add on!!!!!! But microsoft forced Xbox live crap down your throat and you seem to like it... yeah keep paying for service that are free on PC.

Live doesnt have mod support, Live doesnt have dedicaded server support, Live doesnt let you download full games like Steam does, live charges you for every possible piece of DLC...steam doesnt.

I guess it works while you're sleeping but while your awake it isn't worth jack FFXIII360

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzFFXIII360

PK doesn't work that great which is why you used the word practically

I guess it works while you're sleeping but while your awake it isn't worth jack

link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZjKScddEPU

This is one of the easiest problems to overcome, you simply find good servers with admins and they are plentiful. Again, call me when console online gets universal mod support and dedicated servers.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FFXIII360"]You get what you pay for and PC online is free and is full of hacks, cracks, smacks, LOLz, and AFKzFFXIII360

PK doesn't work that great which is why you used the word practically

I guess it works while you're sleeping but while your awake it isn't worth jack

link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZjKScddEPU

I like when he uses the hack... O wait... How do you know it's not a virus? Yeah... :|

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

killab2oo5

Free vs not free... hmmm ok.

STEAM is a free add on!!!!!! But microsoft forced Xbox live crap down your throat and you seem to like it... yeah keep paying for service that are free on PC.

Xbox live >>> Pc online...

This was the title of the thread.

Seems you like to only limit yourself to one free PC program... I wonder why.

I'll just point out, can you download orange box from xbox live?