Xbox live vs PSN, what do you prefer better?

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#101 waltefmoney
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The game sharing being removed was a rumor and I didn't know Live had a browser, why haven't I heard of this?kuraimen

It's a third party browser. And it's superior to the PSN one.

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#102 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] It is a service that is available elsewhere for free, like online connectivity. That's not opinion that's fact.kuraimen

but its not the same service. there are features available on that service that are not available elsewhere.

yeah and again, I'm not arguing about those features but the online connectivity service.

but the features are there. you can't ignore that. if they weren't, your argument would have some validity.
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#103 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="clone01"] and it includes other things that psn lacks, making that claim subjective. i don't know why you're still arguing this. you have zero experience with xbl, have not used the service, and have been repeatedly proven wrong, yet continue to make claims based on subjectivity and opinion. bottom line is this: xbl has features not available on psn: true is xbl worth the money for said features: completely dependent on the consumerclone01

Where have I been proven wrong? stop trying to convince yourself about that, it makes your argument weaker.

Bottom line is this:

psn has features not available on xbl: true

paying for a service twice is a rip off: fact

not if that service has features not available elswhere. if a car has power windows, would it not be more expensive? and drop the condescending attitude.

Maybe when you drop the whole "why are you talking about thing you don't know about" attitude yourself. I can buy the car without power windows which is a choice, with XBL you don't have a choice for online connectivity but to pay.
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#104 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] but its not the same service. there are features available on that service that are not available elsewhere.clone01

yeah and again, I'm not arguing about those features but the online connectivity service.

but the features are there. you can't ignore that. if they weren't, your argument would have some validity.

My argument is valid since my whole argument is that you pay to use online connectivity twice.
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#105 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]The game sharing being removed was a rumor and I didn't know Live had a browser, why haven't I heard of this?waltefmoney

It's a third party browser. And it's superior to the PSN one.

Cool. Still it doesn't change the fact that PSN has services that XBL lacks which was the whole point.
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#107 Some-Mist
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but its not the same service. there are features available on that service that are not available elsewhere.clone01

you can cross game chat on PC. whether it's with xfire or a client such as ventrillo. For a lot of games with dedicated servers you get to play for free. The only exception would be something like MMOs. not available elsewhere? lol?

It's a third party browser. And it's superior to the PSN one.

waltefmoney

you're required to have a PC in order to run that browser. The PS3's browser is standalone and doesn't require any external sources.

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#108 ps3wizard45
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I refuse to buy XBL so PSN for me... web browser ftw!

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#109 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

It's a third party browser. And it's superior to the PSN one.

Some-Mist

you're required to have a PC in order to run that browser. The PS3's browser is standalone and doesn't require any external sources.

You are, and that's definitely a con. Still better than the PS3's browser however.

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#110 Some-Mist
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[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

It's a third party browser. And it's superior to the PSN one.

waltefmoney

you're required to have a PC in order to run that browser. The PS3's browser is standalone and doesn't require any external sources.

You are, and that's definitely a con. Still better than the PS3's browser however.

True, but this is a PSN vs XBL thread, not PSN vs XBL and PC thread. however if were including PCs (which you're doing) then anything on PC browser wise blows both PS3 + 360 away. The free cross game chat, free dedicated servers, free online play. XBL is the only service which requires you to pay to play online which is a MAJOR con, and the PC does everything the 360 does but better.

but to prove your point, what makes that third party browser superior to the PSN one?

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#111 TheMoreYouOwn
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Ever buy a car and have the dealer tell you that in order to access your air conditioning, there's a yearly fee? ;)
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#112 tormentos
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Threads like this should be close on the spot,they always end the same way,live is better is just not 60 dollars a year better.
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#113 waltefmoney
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but to prove your point, what makes that third party browser superior to the PSN one?

Some-Mist

Oh, didn't notice your edit sorry. And here it is - actual flash support.

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#114 dog_dirt
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Ever buy a car and have the dealer tell you that in order to access your air conditioning, there's a yearly fee? ;) TheMoreYouOwn
ever eat a sandwich from a bin because free and there for better than a sandwich you pay for
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#115 Fizzman
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Live.

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#116 clone01
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Maybe when you drop the whole "why are you talking about thing you don't know about" attitude yourself. I can buy the car without power windows which is a choice, with XBL you don't have a choice for online connectivity but to pay.

why would I? you don't have any experience with the service. and you always have a choice: don't buy a 360. they've had a paid online model since the inception of the original xbox. PS3 and Wii (and PC) have free models.
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#117 clone01
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] My argument is valid since my whole argument is that you pay to use online connectivity twice.kuraimen

no. you pay for the superior features of the service. if you actually used xbl, you'd know this. sorry, not a valid argument.

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#119 clone01
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you can cross game chat on PC. whether it's with xfire or a client such as ventrillo. Some-Mist
can you cross-game chat on PSN? the title of the thread pertained to xbl vs. psn, i believe.
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#120 _SWAG_
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psn is better because its free and with psnplus you get free games

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#121 berserker2389
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xbl but I prefer Steam over both of them I have all three
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#122 clone01
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psn is better because its free and with psnplus you get free games

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yes, for an annual fee.
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#123 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

psn is better because its free and with psnplus you get free games

clone01

yes, for an annual fee.

Not to mention its PS+ not PSN+

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#125 Some-Mist
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can you cross-game chat on PSN? the title of the thread pertained to xbl vs. psn, i believe.clone01

no, however I believe your comment stated that these features are not available elsewhere despite what the thread is titled, which is incorrect.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Where have I been proven wrong? stop trying to convince yourself about that, it makes your argument weaker.

Bottom line is this:

psn has features not available on xbl: true

paying for a service twice is a rip off: fact

clone01

not if that service has features not available elswhere. if a car has power windows, would it not be more expensive? and drop the condescending attitude.

you're right in that it isn't available on PSN. But that's not what your comment stated. Now I'm not sure if you just weren't aware of being able to do so on PC, but be more careful with how you choose to word your statements. Be a little more specific.

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#126 Silent_Ninja87
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Xbox live has better features but has a awful community. PSN is free and has decent features but is lacking in areas. But the psn community is overall friendlier and more mature in my experiences. All that aside I do use live more than psn. I like both though.
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#127 ShadowMoses900
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Meh... I know that there are ALOT of fanboys on here who have never played on both services before so I'll answer honestly.

They are both practically THE SAME, minus a few party/cross chat options that LIVE has. There is really nothing else that seperates them.

Many fanboys are lying when they mention lag and servers as there are NO SERVERS (well there are BUT they are the minority on bothsystems)

There is NO reason for Microsoft to charge for LIVE, and it's wrong when it's all p2p anyway. Online gaming SHOULD BE FREE!

The only reason why they think LIVE is superior is because they have never used both services before.

Although I do think that LIVE hasa more talkitive community, is that worth the price of another game for?

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#129 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Maybe when you drop the whole "why are you talking about thing you don't know about" attitude yourself. I can buy the car without power windows which is a choice, with XBL you don't have a choice for online connectivity but to pay.

why would I? you don't have any experience with the service. and you always have a choice: don't buy a 360. they've had a paid online model since the inception of the original xbox. PS3 and Wii (and PC) have free models.

I know I have a choice and that's why I don't have a 360 but that doesn't make charging for a service you already payed for again any less of a rip off.
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#130 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]] My argument is valid since my whole argument is that you pay to use online connectivity twice.clone01

no. you pay for the superior features of the service. if you actually used xbl, you'd know this. sorry, not a valid argument.

No if you payed only for those features then you would be able to play online for free without those features but you can't, therefore, you are paying for online connectivity.
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#131 RoOodriGowW
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Cross game chat + 2 profiles in one console > PSN

But in both cases I get what I pay for I guess :P

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#132 kuraimen
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Cross game chat + 2 profiles in one console > PSN

But in both cases I get what I pay for I guess :P

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Eh you can make any number of profiles you like on a PS3 :|
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#133 LegatoSkyheart
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ugh, Xbox Live isn't Glorious....It's nothing special.

PSN isn't anything special either but at least it doesn't have a fee that restricts you from playing Online.

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#134 campzor
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[QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

Cross game chat + 2 profiles in one console > PSN

But in both cases I get what I pay for I guess :P

kuraimen
Eh you can make any number of profiles you like on a PS3 :|

actually... i think the limit is 10 per console? but still.. 10 > 2
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#135 cloudff7tm
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I think XBL is a better service, but I'm still not paying $60 for it. If I really have to play online for something, I will only pay for a months worth.

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#136 tmntPunchout
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Live is better, PSN is free. Choose your poison :Plocopatho

yes

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#137 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

Cross game chat + 2 profiles in one console > PSN

But in both cases I get what I pay for I guess :P

campzor
Eh you can make any number of profiles you like on a PS3 :|

actually... i think the limit is 10 per console? but still.. 10 > 2

Oh really I have like 5 and my brother has a couple so I thought it was unlimited. It won't prevent lems to spin it to justify those $60 as worthy though even though it is pretty much a ripoff. So that means that if you have 3 people in your home that want to have a profile you need to buy 2 360s and pay for Live twice? pfft... Everytime I learn something new about the 360 it makes me want one even less :P
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#138 RoOodriGowW
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[QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

Cross game chat + 2 profiles in one console > PSN

But in both cases I get what I pay for I guess :P

kuraimen

Eh you can make any number of profiles you like on a PS3 :|

That's not what I meant lol , bear with me , you have your profile , your best friend has his , you can both login in the same console and play an online game together , in the same console each with their respective profile earning achievements for their respective profiles and whatnot.

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#139 RoOodriGowW
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Eh you can make any number of profiles you like on a PS3 :|kuraimen
actually... i think the limit is 10 per console? but still.. 10 > 2

Oh really I have like 5 and my brother has a couple so I thought it was unlimited. It won't prevent lems to spin it to justify those $60 as worthy though even though it is pretty much a ripoff. So that means that if you have 3 people in your home that want to have a profile you need to buy 2 360s and pay for Live twice? pfft... Everytime I learn something new about the 360 it makes me want one even less :P

LOL I'm not a lem , if anything I'm a cow as I prefer my ps3 , but let me explain to you , in case you eventually get both consoles , like me , you can create a lot of profiles on the 360 too , xbox live gold is worth for all of them , be it 2 , 3 , 10...

Now what I meant is that : imagine you and your best friend playing killzone 2 , in the same console , splitscreen , each with their psn's.That sounds good doesn't it?Now either the ps3 can't do it , or the devs suck at knowing what we want and/or doing their job , cause the chance they had to do this in CoD :Black Ops , they screwed it.

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#140 clone01
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I know I have a choice and that's why I don't have a 360 but that doesn't make charging for a service you already payed for again any less of a rip off.kuraimen
i think the features that xbl offers me, which psn lacks are worth the cost. by stating that you think the service is a ripoff doesn't suddenly make it a fact rather than an opinion. and again, having no experience with the service doesn't exactly make you credible.
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#141 falconclan
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Xbox live has really started too tick me off. The fact that microsoft forces developers to charge for additional content what Microsoft wants them to charge started it, and its gotten worse with their $10 price increase.

Xbox live is a nice service, but their reasoning for charging is really getting me angry. They say they increased the prices because of features like ESPN or whatever, and Netflix, and other services, but I have no interest in PSN, and Netflix is both on Wii and PS3. Why can't silver users use netflix?

I understand its a business, but Microsoft is starting to tick me off overall. If PSN goes paid next generation, I hope they don't take notes from the Microsoft playbook.

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#142 clone01
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No if you payed only for those features then you would be able to play online for free without those features but you can't, therefore, you are paying for online connectivity.kuraimen
you are paying for features that are not available on psn. again, if you actually used the service, you'd know this. i really don't understand why you feel the need to bash something that you have no experience with.
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#143 clone01
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Oh really I have like 5 and my brother has a couple so I thought it was unlimited. It won't prevent lems to spin it to justify those $60 as worthy though even though it is pretty much a ripoff. So that means that if you have 3 people in your home that want to have a profile you need to buy 2 360s and pay for Live twice? pfft... Everytime I learn something new about the 360 it makes me want one even less :Pkuraimen
that's too bad: i'm sure you'd be a valued member of the xbl community, considering your lack of bias and sound logic.
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#144 chicagodon
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PSN> XBL silver. you can play your game online with psn and text party/ cross game chat but not with XBL silver so thats a no brainer.

PSN+> XBL Gold. Gold does let you play your games online and has some communication features like voice party chat for $60 a year. PSN plus gives you content games, beta access, avatars and themes for $50 a year.

that about the services of live and psn

user interface is a different conversation. posters prove your comprehension skills when answering the question.

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#145 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="campzor"] actually... i think the limit is 10 per console? but still.. 10 > 2RoOodriGowW

Oh really I have like 5 and my brother has a couple so I thought it was unlimited. It won't prevent lems to spin it to justify those $60 as worthy though even though it is pretty much a ripoff. So that means that if you have 3 people in your home that want to have a profile you need to buy 2 360s and pay for Live twice? pfft... Everytime I learn something new about the 360 it makes me want one even less :P

LOL I'm not a lem , if anything I'm a cow as I prefer my ps3 , but let me explain to you , in case you eventually get both consoles , like me , you can create a lot of profiles on the 360 too , xbox live gold is worth for all of them , be it 2 , 3 , 10...

Now what I meant is that : imagine you and your best friend playing killzone 2 , in the same console , splitscreen , each with their psn's.That sounds good doesn't it?Now either the ps3 can't do it , or the devs suck at knowing what we want and/or doing their job , cause the chance they had to do this in CoD :Black Ops , they screwed it.

Well that depends on the devs then and not on the service since I can play Little Big Planet with my brother using his profile on the same PS3 any time I want.
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#146 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] No if you payed only for those features then you would be able to play online for free without those features but you can't, therefore, you are paying for online connectivity.clone01
you are paying for features that are not available on psn. again, if you actually used the service, you'd know this. i really don't understand why you feel the need to bash something that you have no experience with.

And you use services on PSN that you can't on XBL or maybe you're not aware of them because you don't use it? Either way the online connection is a service that you pay for to your ISP and shouldn't be paying MS again for it. That's what I call a rip off.
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#147 VoodooHak
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Wow.... this topic again.

I prefer Xbox Live Gold. I like the party system, cross game invites, game launching... all without having to rely on a separate app. Community-focused events that are viewable right from the dash. Community staff that's much more responsive.

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#148 lusitanogamer
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PSN lets me play my games online for free. That's an auto win for me.
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#149 Chris_Williams
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theres a reason i have a 360 but don't use it for live, i see no point in paying money just to play online, honestly silver members should be able to only have access to the online feature and thats it and gold members can have everything that comes with live. I like psn way better because i just put in my game and i'm already set, i don't have to worry about when i have to renew my service which is 60 bucks and people say you can get it for cheaper but i'm still paying money for it which i could use that cash for something else and if i'm out of cash for some reason i can't go online or do anything. this is just my thought on it, take for instance this black ops map pack thats coming out, you pay your 50-60 or 30 bucks whatever, then you pay for the game which was another 60 or 50 or whatever you got for it then your paying another 15, come on, you obviously paying waaay more for the 360 version of black ops. I'll just stick with psn which in my opinion is better. it does what i need it to do, just play games online and talk with friends, for free

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#150 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] No if you payed only for those features then you would be able to play online for free without those features but you can't, therefore, you are paying for online connectivity.kuraimen
you are paying for features that are not available on psn. again, if you actually used the service, you'd know this. i really don't understand why you feel the need to bash something that you have no experience with.

And you use services on PSN that you can't on XBL or maybe you're not aware of them because you don't use it? Either way the online connection is a service that you pay for to your ISP and shouldn't be paying MS again for it. That's what I call a rip off.

which would be an opinion? so what if there are services that are on psn that aren't on xbl. still doesn't change the fact that there are services on xbl that are not on psn. and many users feel those services are worth the money.