Xbox: Mission acclomplished

Xbox 360 has outsold its previous iteration by 4 million consoles, in one year less time, and at a higher price.

Xbox Live is thriving at 17 million, with at least half that number actively gold members.

360 has the highest attach rate, the most games, and among those games the most reviewed A, AA, and AAA games.

Its also now making a consistent profit and the latest hardware specs have drastically dropped the failure rate.

Basically, MS did what they set out to do: stop Sony from taking over the living room (yes Nintendo helped a lot there too). It doesnt matter how this generation ends. Al though 360 wil most likely finish this gen in 2nd place, they allr eady did what they set out to do....and thats growing the brand and having more influence then Sony.

Sounds like your setting up for future failure, so you can continue your charade even if Sony ever takes 2nd place. I'm sure by the time its all said and done, the PS3 probably will take 2nd, but it wouldn't be for a long time. I'd say Sony accomplished some of what it set out to do as well, the costs of the Cell have dropped, Blu-Ray may not be as big as DVD, but it certainly is the accepted winner of the format wars, its goals may have left gamers out in the dust, but it should be beneficial for them next-gen with cheaper costs for both components.110million

PS3 "may" take 2nd place....but IF that happens, itll be well into the next gen. In which case itll be a victory nobody will care about cause all fanboys will be too busy focusing on the 720 beating out the PS4 (im predicting MS getting another head start).

Sony did acclomplish some things like with bluray but overall their market share has dropped drastically since the PS2 days.....market share that I think wont be duplicated for generations.

360 not even close PS2 sales, Sony has PS2 and PS3 which seld more for Sony.EuropeGangsta

360 not even close PS2 sales, Sony has PS2 and PS3 which seld more for Sony.EuropeGangsta

u do realize that PS3 lost more money then PS2 generated profits lifetime right? And my origional points do say that MS acclomplished much in one generation. With the help of Nintendo, they made Sony, the former king of previous generations.....the "whipping boy" as media outlets used to say in 2007.

Sounds like your setting up for future failure, so you can continue your charade even if Sony ever takes 2nd place. I'm sure by the time its all said and done, the PS3 probably will take 2nd, but it wouldn't be for a long time. I'd say Sony accomplished some of what it set out to do as well, the costs of the Cell have dropped, Blu-Ray may not be as big as DVD, but it certainly is the accepted winner of the format wars, its goals may have left gamers out in the dust, but it should be beneficial for them next-gen with cheaper costs for both components.110million

Sounds like your setting up for future failure, so you can continue your charade even if Sony ever takes 2nd place. I'm sure by the time its all said and done, the PS3 probably will take 2nd, but it wouldn't be for a long time. I'd say Sony accomplished some of what it set out to do as well, the costs of the Cell have dropped, Blu-Ray may not be as big as DVD, but it certainly is the accepted winner of the format wars, its goals may have left gamers out in the dust, but it should be beneficial for them next-gen with cheaper costs for both components.110million

[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]360 not even close PS2 sales, Sony has PS2 and PS3 which seld more for Sony.Cole-Protocal

u do realize that PS3 lost more money then PS2 generated profits lifetime right? And my origional points do say that MS acclomplished much in one generation. With the help of Nintendo, they made Sony, the former king of previous generations.....the "whipping boy" as media outlets used to say in 2007.

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[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]360 not even close PS2 sales, Sony has PS2 and PS3 which seld more for Sony.EuropeGangsta

u do realize that PS3 lost more money then PS2 generated profits lifetime right? And my origional points do say that MS acclomplished much in one generation. With the help of Nintendo, they made Sony, the former king of previous generations.....the "whipping boy" as media outlets used to say in 2007.

u do realize that the post september price drop sales traneds are trickling into 2009....giving 360 a nice head start on global sales.......and also if u havent noticed, PS3 sales are way behind WIi in japan......and 360s euro and NA weekly numbere MORE then make up for it.

360 not even close PS2 sales, Sony has PS2 and PS3 which seld more for Sony.EuropeGangsta

u do realize that PS3 lost more money then PS2 generated profits lifetime right? And my origional points do say that MS acclomplished much in one generation. With the help of Nintendo, they made Sony, the former king of previous generations.....the "whipping boy" as media outlets used to say in 2007.

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[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]360 not even close PS2 sales, Sony has PS2 and PS3 which seld more for Sony.EuropeGangsta

u do realize that PS3 lost more money then PS2 generated profits lifetime right? And my origional points do say that MS acclomplished much in one generation. With the help of Nintendo, they made Sony, the former king of previous generations.....the "whipping boy" as media outlets used to say in 2007.

Why is Japan 'more important?' There market is dying. Oh wait, only countries where the PS3 is actually outselling are more important, :lol: cows...

MS didn't stop Sony, Sony stopped Sony.DaBrainz

lol sony deserves some credit too. ur right

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]MS didn't stop Sony, Sony stopped Sony.Cole-Protocal

lol sony deserves some credit too. ur right

They did even better than the original Xbox.Floppy_Jim

Maybe, but PS3 still have better graphics. Xbox original had better to PS2. So mission not accomplished, they can't beat the cells chip.EuropeGangsta

lol....u do realize that aside from a handful of 1st party games....most multiplats look identical, with many looking better on 360. From a 3rd party perspective....the cell potential will never be realized....too much money in 360 developement.

And whats with the emphasis on graphics.........cows never cared much with PS1 and PS2 (since each wasnt the most powerful). Now with PS3......u act like graphics means verything???? ill never understand ur kind.

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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]MS didn't stop Sony, Sony stopped Sony.Animal-Mother

lol sony deserves some credit too. ur right

the xbox brand, not the origional xbox. cmon.......

TC i don't know if its deliberate but lifting that phrase from this guy in 2003:

Maybe isn't the smartest thing to do? How did that work out?

There is more balance in the force now, and that is a good thing for gamers.

Imbalance is what led to the arrogance of trying to shove a $600 price tag down our throats.

Competition is good. Lets hope they all do well enough to try again the next time.

[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]Maybe, but PS3 still have better graphics. Xbox original had better to PS2. So mission not accomplished, they can't beat the cells chip.Cole-Protocal

lol....u do realize that aside from a handful of 1st party games....most multiplats look identical, with many looking better on 360. From a 3rd party perspective....the cell potential will never be realized....too much money in 360 developement.

And whats with the emphasis on graphics.........cows never cared much with PS1 and PS2 (since each wasnt the most powerful). Now with PS3......u act like graphics means verything???? ill never understand ur kind.

If you wait long enough, the cow will start playing the RROD card. Forgeting how his beloved company passed off defective machines and got sued over it and lost...

[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]Maybe, but PS3 still have better graphics. Xbox original had better to PS2. So mission not accomplished, they can't beat the cells chip.Cole-Protocal

lol....u do realize that aside from a handful of 1st party games....most multiplats look identical, with many looking better on 360. From a 3rd party perspective....the cell potential will never be realized....too much money in 360 developement.

And whats with the emphasis on graphics.........cows never cared much with PS1 and PS2 (since each wasnt the most powerful). Now with PS3......u act like graphics means verything???? ill never understand ur kind.

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[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]Maybe, but PS3 still have better graphics. Xbox original had better to PS2. So mission not accomplished, they can't beat the cells chip.Animal-Mother

lol....u do realize that aside from a handful of 1st party games....most multiplats look identical, with many looking better on 360. From a 3rd party perspective....the cell potential will never be realized....too much money in 360 developement.

And whats with the emphasis on graphics.........cows never cared much with PS1 and PS2 (since each wasnt the most powerful). Now with PS3......u act like graphics means verything???? ill never understand ur kind.

2 of those studios are owned by sony......

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

lol sony deserves some credit too. ur right

Cole-Protocal

the xbox brand, not the origional xbox. cmon.......

[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]Maybe, but PS3 still have better graphics. Xbox original had better to PS2. So mission not accomplished, they can't beat the cells chip.Cole-Protocal

lol....u do realize that aside from a handful of 1st party games....most multiplats look identical, with many looking better on 360. From a 3rd party perspective....the cell potential will never be realized....too much money in 360 developement.

And whats with the emphasis on graphics.........cows never cared much with PS1 and PS2 (since each wasnt the most powerful). Now with PS3......u act like graphics means verything???? ill never understand ur kind.

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[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"]Maybe, but PS3 still have better graphics. Xbox original had better to PS2. So mission not accomplished, they can't beat the cells chip.EuropeGangsta

lol....u do realize that aside from a handful of 1st party games....most multiplats look identical, with many looking better on 360. From a 3rd party perspective....the cell potential will never be realized....too much money in 360 developement.

And whats with the emphasis on graphics.........cows never cared much with PS1 and PS2 (since each wasnt the most powerful). Now with PS3......u act like graphics means verything???? ill never understand ur kind.

ok....u play the "just wait" and "lets be optomistic!!!" card.

us lemmings will play with what we got now thank you. our debate is done if all u can come up with is "what if" scenerios. 360 > PS3 by 8 million and growing. deal.

[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

lol....u do realize that aside from a handful of 1st party games....most multiplats look identical, with many looking better on 360. From a 3rd party perspective....the cell potential will never be realized....too much money in 360 developement.

And whats with the emphasis on graphics.........cows never cared much with PS1 and PS2 (since each wasnt the most powerful). Now with PS3......u act like graphics means verything???? ill never understand ur kind.

Cole-Protocal

ok....u play the "just wait" and "lets be optomistic!!!" card.

us lemmings will play with what we got now thank you. our debate is done if all u can come up with is "what if" scenerios. 360 > PS3 by 8 million and growing. deal.

[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"][QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"] They look better on 360 because they are lazy on. The cell is new so more complicate, Sony said it can do 4 dimension and higher speed.Animal-Mother

ok....u play the "just wait" and "lets be optomistic!!!" card.

us lemmings will play with what we got now thank you. our debate is done if all u can come up with is "what if" scenerios. 360 > PS3 by 8 million and growing. deal.

i dont like ur chop busting abilities..........lol

actually with the year lead the 360 has a larger library of games......and Fallout 3 and Baja (A on 360 and sub A on PS3) beg to differ in 08. And worldwide sales is just a way of saying my console is more preferred and desired then yours. Yes the Wii > both but this is only regarding the holy war between 360 and PS3.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

ok....u play the "just wait" and "lets be optomistic!!!" card.

us lemmings will play with what we got now thank you. our debate is done if all u can come up with is "what if" scenerios. 360 > PS3 by 8 million and growing. deal.

Cole-Protocal

i dont like ur chop busting abilities..........lol

actually with the year lead the 360 has a larger library of games......and Fallout 3 and Baja (A on 360 and sub A on PS3) beg to differ in 08. And worldwide sales is just a way of saying my console is more preferred and desired then yours. Yes the Wii > both but this is only regarding the holy war between 360 and PS3.

TC i don't know if its deliberate but lifting that phrase from this guy in 2003:

Maybe isn't the smartest thing to do? How did that work out?

blue_hazy_basic

Now I'm no fan of GWB but I'm certain most knew what was meant but many wanted to use it as a means of political fodder to beat the President of the USA over the head and that mission, sadly, was accomplished

MS certainly did accomplish much this gen but they are far from being the victor though in time they just may get there.

Maybe, but PS3 still have better graphics. Xbox original had better to PS2. So mission not accomplished, they can't beat the cells chip.EuropeGangsta

According to Eurogamer, out of 15 rounds, 14 victories for the 360 and one tie does not say the PS3 has better graphics. Stop buying into the hype.

You have to give credit when credit is due. Microsofts course of action towards marketing and advertising the 360 has definitely been a smart one. At this point, the sky is the limit for the system, as it has outperformed it's predecessor.

Sony, while they have made significant strides in certain areas, have not met expectations. There performance of the PS3 can mostly be attributed to the actions of Sony, but the presence and appeal of the 360 definitely influenced it's performance.

u do realize that PS3 lost more money then PS2 generated profits lifetime right?

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2 of those studios are owned by sony...... (ref. Naughty Dog, Kojima Productions, Insomniac Games)

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360 > PS3 by 8 million and growing.

Cole-Protocal

None of these statements are true.

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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]MS didn't stop Sony, Sony stopped Sony.Animal-Mother

lol sony deserves some credit too. ur right

[QUOTE="EuropeGangsta"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

lol....u do realize that aside from a handful of 1st party games....most multiplats look identical, with many looking better on 360. From a 3rd party perspective....the cell potential will never be realized....too much money in 360 developement.

And whats with the emphasis on graphics.........cows never cared much with PS1 and PS2 (since each wasnt the most powerful). Now with PS3......u act like graphics means verything???? ill never understand ur kind.

tratyu92

k no idea what Europegangsta is talking about... Also everyone this gen is keeping on aout graphics here, not just ps3 owners, now that the ps3 has pulled ahead with KZ2 now it seems many non ps3 owners are suddenly claiming graohics to be irrelevant...

I think the 360 is doing well but I don't think it will end up being 2nd place this gen. People tend to forget that it came out a year earlier and therefore able to mass produce at a cheaper price earlier on. I think things will pick up once the PS3 price hits $300. I also think some people are a bit short sighted when it comes to investing. Sony paid a lot to make the PS3 what it is but it will payoff when it's cheaper. They are selling this machine as two different products, a gaming machine and a bluray player. Those are two different markets that can definitly help with a cheaper price. I find it ridiculous how some people think Sony will just vanish just because it had a slow start. dual_boot

[QUOTE="dual_boot"]I think the 360 is doing well but I don't think it will end up being 2nd place this gen. People tend to forget that it came out a year earlier and therefore able to mass produce at a cheaper price earlier on. I think things will pick up once the PS3 price hits $300. I also think some people are a bit short sighted when it comes to investing. Sony paid a lot to make the PS3 what it is but it will payoff when it's cheaper. They are selling this machine as two different products, a gaming machine and a bluray player. Those are two different markets that can definitly help with a cheaper price. I find it ridiculous how some people think Sony will just vanish just because it had a slow start. Nomad0404

It's a recession, not a depression. And honestly, the biggest demographic for videogame consumers are teens who don't have to pay for their own utilities, rent, etc. On top of that, the US is already considering another stimulus package.