Xbox one - Seriously.. what are the disadvantages / differences?

I'm a current xbox owner and former ps3 owner. My expierence on the PS3 just wasn't deep enough for me. The xbox always offered such a better expierence for me personally when it came to gaming, even multiplats. I'm a little disappointed to say the least with what I'm hearing about xbox one. The line up looks great but even developers have come out and said the PS4 is superior. The $499 price tag for inferior hardware and a forced purcased of kinect does not sit well with me.

I'm semi tech savvy, built my own pc's for a few years, done a little programming and try to stay caught up with new hardware. I lack knowledge of the true details of these consoles though and I'd appreciate it if someone who really knew their stuff could shed some light on the true differences between the two. Is the xone following the same path as the WiiU? 

 

To get it out of the way - yes the PS4 is more powerful.

BUT

it's certainly no WiiU, the gap between X1 and PS4 is minimal at most. Multiplatforms may perform slightly better on PS4, but apart from that the 2 consoles are pretty much clones. If you already into pc gaming at all (reading between the lines that you build pcs), then it won't matter the marginal difference between the 2 consoles since if you want much better visuals/performance you can always fall back on pc.

Go with the system you most like the lineup for.

both consoles will be similar exccept that xbox live will have dedicated servers for most if not all games.

Sony will be stuck with p2p 4 lyfe.

It depends on which fanboy you ask. Gatman32

To get it out of the way - yes the PS4 is more powerful.

BUT

it's certainly no WiiU, the gap between X1 and PS4 is minimal at most. Multiplatforms may perform slightly better on PS4, but apart from that the 2 consoles are pretty much clones. If you already into pc gaming at all (reading between the lines that you build pcs), then it won't matter the marginal difference between the 2 consoles since if you want much better visuals/performance you can always fall back on pc.

Go with the system you most like the lineup for.

_Matt_

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

To get it out of the way - yes the PS4 is more powerful.

BUT

it's certainly no WiiU, the gap between X1 and PS4 is minimal at most. Multiplatforms may perform slightly better on PS4, but apart from that the 2 consoles are pretty much clones. If you already into pc gaming at all (reading between the lines that you build pcs), then it won't matter the marginal difference between the 2 consoles since if you want much better visuals/performance you can always fall back on pc.

Go with the system you most like the lineup for.

Bishop1310

Very sensible plan sir. Games lineup for both systems is currently mediocre, so if you can wait, good idea to :)

I'll still be buying the Xbox One,regardless of the disadvantages.

I'll still be buying the Xbox One,regardless of the disadvantages.

brimmul777

[QUOTE="brimmul777"]

I'll still be buying the Xbox One,regardless of the disadvantages.

silversix_

The main point to buying the Xbox One is to play games.And at a later date I'll buy the PS4.I like the Xbox brand and I will give the Playstation brand a chance one day.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="brimmul777"]

I'll still be buying the Xbox One,regardless of the disadvantages.

brimmul777

The main point to buying the Xbox One is to play games.And at a later date I'll buy the PS4.I like the Xbox brand and I will give the Playstation brand a chance one day.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="brimmul777"]

I'll still be buying the Xbox One,regardless of the disadvantages.

brimmul777

The main point to buying the Xbox One is to play games.And at a later date I'll buy the PS4.I like the Xbox brand and I will give the Playstation brand a chance one day.

X1 seems to have better launch games, so get it at launch, then pickup a ps4 in a year when the games start flowing, because it will end up having the best looking games when newer exclusives start coming.

[QUOTE="brimmul777"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]why. Is the answer Halo? Didn't you have enough halo across TWO GENS? waste of $500

silversix_

The main point to buying the Xbox One is to play games.And at a later date I'll buy the PS4.I like the Xbox brand and I will give the Playstation brand a chance one day.

it's not a ps4

X1 seems to have better launch games, so get it at launch, then pickup a ps4 in a year when the games start flowing, because it will end up having the best looking games when newer exclusives start coming.

Phazevariance

The X1 is trying to be the master of all computing needs and has resulted in the being the master of none.  PS4 has better specs, but specs don't make great games, developers do.  X1 is still the only place you'll get to play Halo & other MS-published titles (but the majority of the best games will be available on both consoles & PC).

Kinect's only advantage is navigation via voice inputs, which really seems to be its only intended use.  Kinect games are still around but nobody is openly anticipating more motion controls.

The X1 will be a serviceable console but you're going to get more of the same from MS, generally.  If you liked X360, you'll probably like X1 ($100 more and Kinect notwithstanding).

It all boils down to what you believe to be a better value.  Both will have great games - all depends on you to determine which ones are more your flavor.

To get it out of the way - yes the PS4 is more powerful.

BUT

it's certainly no WiiU, the gap between X1 and PS4 is minimal at most. Multiplatforms may perform slightly better on PS4, but apart from that the 2 consoles are pretty much clones. If you already into pc gaming at all (reading between the lines that you build pcs), then it won't matter the marginal difference between the 2 consoles since if you want much better visuals/performance you can always fall back on pc.

Go with the system you most like the lineup for.

_Matt_

The main difference is the $100 increase in price, but you get increased functionality, and more media features as a result of that.

There will be a small difference in game performance much like there was between the 360 and PS3 this gen, but it won't be anything major worth crying about unless you're a fanboy.

I don't think the $100 price difference is going to be so detrimental in the long-run though. As with everything, price will eventually go down, and it won't be long before you can buy an Xbox One for the same price, if not cheaper, than the PS4. The PS3 went through the same deal going from $600 to the now $200-$300 price range which is equal to the Xbox 360.

Personally, I think Xbox tends to get the better game support as well, but I won't be buying either console at launch, so the price difference now doesn't bother me. The graphical differencees don't bother me either since I'm a PC gamer. I don't expect to be playing console games at insane resolutions with all the bells and whistles.

It depends on which fanboy you ask. Gatman32

The differences are negligible. They both will have games, media apps, voice control, motion gaming, and the same online structures. Save yourself money and get a PS4.

Disadvantages:

-Weaker specs (25-50% difference it seems)

-100$ price difference (do to kinect 2.0 that no one wants)

-Weaker 1st party support, Sony's studios dwarf Microsofts in AAA devs.

-PSN+ is a greater deal than XBL.

-Gaikia actually showing tangable cloud computing potential, Microsoft's cloud is still smoke & mirror's meant to hide failed DRM policies. They are finally adopting dedicated servers however.

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

To get it out of the way - yes the PS4 is more powerful.

BUT

it's certainly no WiiU, the gap between X1 and PS4 is minimal at most. Multiplatforms may perform slightly better on PS4, but apart from that the 2 consoles are pretty much clones. If you already into pc gaming at all (reading between the lines that you build pcs), then it won't matter the marginal difference between the 2 consoles since if you want much better visuals/performance you can always fall back on pc.

Go with the system you most like the lineup for.

xboxiphoneps3

you keep believing that. 

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="_Matt_"]

To get it out of the way - yes the PS4 is more powerful.

BUT

it's certainly no WiiU, the gap between X1 and PS4 is minimal at most. Multiplatforms may perform slightly better on PS4, but apart from that the 2 consoles are pretty much clones. If you already into pc gaming at all (reading between the lines that you build pcs), then it won't matter the marginal difference between the 2 consoles since if you want much better visuals/performance you can always fall back on pc.

Go with the system you most like the lineup for.

_Matt_

you keep believing that. 

The main difference is the $100 increase in price, but you get increased functionality, and more media features as a result of that.

There will be a small difference in game performance much like there was between the 360 and PS3 this gen, but it won't be anything major worth crying about unless you're a fanboy.

 

I don't think the $100 price difference is going to be so detrimental in the long-run though. As with everything, price will eventually go down, and it won't be long before you can buy an Xbox One for the same price, if not cheaper, than the PS4. The PS3 went through the same deal going from $600 to the now $200-$300 price range which is equal to the Xbox 360.

 

Personally, I think Xbox tends to get the better game support as well, but I won't be buying either console at launch, so the price difference now doesn't bother me. The graphical differencees don't bother me either since I'm a PC gamer. I don't expect to be playing console games at insane resolutions with all the bells and whistles.

treedoor

Add $60 everything is hiden behind a paywall and you are using features as selling point on the xbox one,on PS4 features are free of a pay wall,so yeah $160 more if you want those features.

How many exclusive games are 1080p on xbox one.?

The only one basically Forza with unimpressive stages,and faked and baked effects,oh an it will be imcoplete at launch stated by MS.

Sony is much better than MS with hardware and lowering prices as well.

No the xbox doesn't get better support MS pay a sh** ton of money to get exclusive which will be harder to do this gen,when they have no advantage and pre-sales seem heavily in favor of the PS4,a developer may think about letting MS having a game exclusive 10 times knowing its sales and name of the brand it self could be harm by low xbox one sales.

The biggest disadvantages of the Xbox one right now are the price, too American-focused features (to me at least) and forced Kinect.

The weaker specs really don't bother me much, if not at all. Who gives a fvck if one console is slightly weaker or stronger than the other? There probably won't be much difference between the 2 console as far as multiplats go,  aside from a few exception, just like this generation. So unless the weaker specs directly lead to lower performance, I couldn't care less.

To get it out of the way - yes the PS4 is more powerful.

BUT

it's certainly no WiiU, the gap between X1 and PS4 is minimal at most. Multiplatforms may perform slightly better on PS4, but apart from that the 2 consoles are pretty much clones. If you already into pc gaming at all (reading between the lines that you build pcs), then it won't matter the marginal difference between the 2 consoles since if you want much better visuals/performance you can always fall back on pc.

Go with the system you most like the lineup for.

_Matt_

^ this.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

The main difference is the $100 increase in price, but you get increased functionality, and more media features as a result of that.

There will be a small difference in game performance much like there was between the 360 and PS3 this gen, but it won't be anything major worth crying about unless you're a fanboy.

I don't think the $100 price difference is going to be so detrimental in the long-run though. As with everything, price will eventually go down, and it won't be long before you can buy an Xbox One for the same price, if not cheaper, than the PS4. The PS3 went through the same deal going from $600 to the now $200-$300 price range which is equal to the Xbox 360.

Personally, I think Xbox tends to get the better game support as well, but I won't be buying either console at launch, so the price difference now doesn't bother me. The graphical differencees don't bother me either since I'm a PC gamer. I don't expect to be playing console games at insane resolutions with all the bells and whistles.

tormentos

Add $60 everything is hiden behind a paywall and you are using features as selling point on the xbox one,on PS4 features are free of a pay wall,so yeah $160 more if you want those features.

How many exclusive games are 1080p on xbox one.?

The only one basically Forza with unimpressive stages,and faked and baked effects,oh an it will be imcoplete at launch stated by MS.

Sony is much better than MS with hardware and lowering prices as well.

No the xbox doesn't get better support MS pay a sh** ton of money to get exclusive which will be harder to do this gen,when they have no advantage and pre-sales seem heavily in favor of the PS4,a developer may think about letting MS having a game exclusive 10 times knowing its sales and name of the brand it self could be harm by low xbox one sales.

Oh look... Tormentos the super cow jumped in.

TC, that is what a super-cow sounds like. It's best to just replace their words with "moos".

 

Oh look... Tormentos the super cow jumped in.

TC, that is what a super-cow sounds like. It's best to just replace their words with "moos".

StormyJoe

Another post by a heart broken lemming...:lol:

Go to beyond3D if you like nothing but good secret sauce argument for the xbox one they have plenty...:lol:

Is not my fault MS decided to gimp the unit in favor of cable TV and kinect.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

Oh look... Tormentos the super cow jumped in.

TC, that is what a super-cow sounds like. It's best to just replace their words with "moos".

tormentos

Another post by a heart broken lemming...:lol:

Go to beyond3D if you like nothing but good secret sauce argument for the xbox one they have plenty...:lol:

Is not my fault MS decided to gimp the unit in favor of cable TV and kinect.

Keep talking, d****ss, I am rather enjoying watching you dig your grave.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

 

Oh look... Tormentos the super cow jumped in.

TC, that is what a super-cow sounds like. It's best to just replace their words with "moos".

tormentos

Another post by a heart broken lemming...:lol:

Go to beyond3D if you like nothing but good secret sauce argument for the xbox one they have plenty...:lol:

Is not my fault MS decided to gimp the unit in favor of cable TV and kinect.

Difference in graphix will not be even close to what some are suggesting. The Xbo is the better designed system. It's a media marvel. The kinect 2.0 is also 10x's the power of the original so keep that in mind.XBOunity

My expierence on the PS3 just wasn't deep enough for meBishop1310

both consoles will be similar exccept that xbox live will have dedicated servers for most if not all games.

Sony will be stuck with p2p 4 lyfe.

Evo_nine

To get it out of the way - yes the PS4 is more powerful.

BUT

it's certainly no WiiU, the gap between X1 and PS4 is minimal at most. Multiplatforms may perform slightly better on PS4, but apart from that the 2 consoles are pretty much clones. If you already into pc gaming at all (reading between the lines that you build pcs), then it won't matter the marginal difference between the 2 consoles since if you want much better visuals/performance you can always fall back on pc.

Go with the system you most like the lineup for.

_Matt_

For me the disadvantages are

1. Lack of exclusives I know are coming to PS4 like Infamous.

2. Cost $100 more that PS4.

3. Underpowered.

4. Kinect is force on me and I don't like having things forced on me and tend to rebel against it.

5. Kinect gives the NSA the option to spy on me and I don't agree with that.

6. Microsoft's track records tells me a Microsoft console is a bad investment.

7. I believe that once (if) they have a large enough install base, they will reverse their policies once again to what they first were.

For me the disadvantages are

1. Lack of exclusives I know are coming to PS4 like Infamous.

2. Cost $100 more that PS4.

3. Underpowered.

4. Kinect is force on me and I don't like having things forced on me and tend to rebel against it.

5. Kinect gives the NSA the option to spy on me and I don't agree with that.

6. Microsoft's track records tells me a Microsoft console is a bad investment.

7. I believe that once (if) they have a large enough install base, they will reverse their policies once again to what they first were.

AmazonTreeBoa

I'm a current xbox owner and former ps3 owner. My expierence on the PS3 just wasn't deep enough for me. The xbox always offered such a better expierence for me personally when it came to gaming, even multiplats. I'm a little disappointed to say the least with what I'm hearing about xbox one. The line up looks great but even developers have come out and said the PS4 is superior. The $499 price tag for inferior hardware and a forced purcased of kinect does not sit well with me.

I'm semi tech savvy, built my own pc's for a few years, done a little programming and try to stay caught up with new hardware. I lack knowledge of the true details of these consoles though and I'd appreciate it if someone who really knew their stuff could shed some light on the true differences between the two. Is the xone following the same path as the WiiU?

Bishop1310

as someone who owns both a PS3 and a 360 and someone who plans to eventually get both a PS4 and XB1, I can readily say that, from what I've seen so far and what history has shown, Xbox One will have the better overall online service with Xbox Live Gold, the better voice control/facial recognition/motion control camera with Kinect 2.0, the better second screen experience with Smartglass, the better cloud gaming and storage solution with Azure (and SkyDrive), more apps and app support with Windows 8 app compatibility, the more established and fleshed out multimedia ecosystem with Xbox Music and Xbox Video, the better Live TV integration with HDMI input, the better multitasking with Snap View, and the more dynamic dashboard UI.

That's just off the top of my head and I'm sure there are other advantages.. Microsoft is a software company and they have proven time and time again that they will lead the way in terms of online multiplayer innovation, multimedia integration, and dashboard UI improvements while Sony continues to play catch up.. if this next generation is going to be about persistent world multiplayer, cloud technology, second screen functionality, and practical usage of voice/motion controls, then Microsoft is definitely going "all in" while Sony is playing "wait and see".. there's nothing wrong with the "wait and see" approach but lets not pretend we don't know why people are calling Sony's new console the PS3.5 either..

Now in fairness, Sony is the better hardware company and they've brought a few advantages aswell, to include a better hardware spec sheet (on paper anyway), replaceable HDD, rechargeable controllers that don't require the additional purchase of a "play and charge kit", better remote play features with PS Vita cross communication, and a lower price point.. Sony is playing it safe, plain and simple. Again, nothing wrong with that but the Xbox One just seems like the more exciting purchase for me right now because of this.

Honestly, you can't go wrong with either console and personally I'm going with the Xbox One first and a PS4 after the price drops and teh GDDR5 starts to finally show this "50% difference" in graphics.. ;-)

It depends on which fanboy you ask. Gatman32

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]

For me the disadvantages are

1. Lack of exclusives I know are coming to PS4 like Infamous.

2. Cost $100 more that PS4.

3. Underpowered.

4. Kinect is force on me and I don't like having things forced on me and tend to rebel against it.

5. Kinect gives the NSA the option to spy on me and I don't agree with that.

6. Microsoft's track records tells me a Microsoft console is a bad investment.

7. I believe that once (if) they have a large enough install base, they will reverse their policies once again to what they first were.

XBOunity

Nobody has effectively made the case for the One, not even Microsoft, so I will give it a shot. I must preface this with the following: I own a Wii U, am buying a PS4, a One, and a new video card all within the next few months, and look forward to the future of all the platforms for different reasons, but allow me to attempt to articulate why I am looking forward to the new Xbox in particular.

THE CONTROLLER

I am a big fan of alternative interface devices, which is probably one of the reasons I'm not on the, "I hate Kinect" bandwagon. The new One controller has haptic feedback which will create a tactile environment absent on other platforms, and could actually be a reason to buy multiplats on the One. Imagine 'feeling' the direction of incoming enemy fire, giving you one more piece of sensory information that can help you play better and feel more connected to the game. It's also really cool that they are going to get rid of the battery pack protrusion and allow native PC suppport without a dongle. I love playing PC games with my 360 controller, and I'm excited about playing upcoming games with the new super-rumble at no additional cost.

EXCLUSIVES

I think it will be really cool to see what remedy does with their new game... playing a game that alters the course of an episodic television program sounds really intrigueing to me. I am also excited about the next gen Halo and think a Spielberg produced Halo companion TV show sounds great if it's going to be like Forward Unto Dawn. Fantasia is one of my favorite movies of all time, so that title excites me quite a bit, and of course there's Titanfall

TV

I know Microsoft took a lot of heat for talking about the TV integration, but as a regular television viewer, I for one really look forward to the new integration. Being able to use voice and gesture commands while browsing, searching and managing my television experience honestly sounds amazing. I currently really enjoy the ability to find shows I want to watch in Netflix with the current Kinect integration, and using gestures and voice to control the FF, Pause and other standard features is one of the most undervalued features of this generation, and it's about to get a whole lot better. They've made the voice commands more naturalistic too, which is a big improvement... you will no longer have to remember a command list and can simply say, "What movies are starting now?".

SNAP FUNCTIONALITY

The Multitasking 'Snap' features are also really exciting to me. Having integrated Skype will be a real plus for my friends that want to play with me on Steam while I'm not near the computer, and the ability to pause a movie or television show and look up a concept, actor or other piece of information is as handy as it is futuristic. For instance, you can watch Game of Thrones on TV while video chatting... imagine the Red Wedding with friends and loved ones in real time - not something I'd always want to do, but certainly nice to have that option.

LIVE

I don't think a lot of people realize just how much better LIVE is going to be going forward. For one thing, dedicated servers are going to be a big step up. For another, the matchmaking based on personality is a tremendously great feature unlike any other platform available. Also, you are going to be able to 'follow' people that you aren't your friends. Wanna make sure that reviewer played that game all the way through? Follow them. Also, people are going to be able to pick favorite friends for a more managable experience considering the limit has been increased to 1000. I also recently learned that your friends will have a twitter style feed you can check up on complte with any recordnings they happen to make. It sounds similar to what the Miiverse concept, but more feature rich and useful.

KINECT 2.0

The new Kinect - while much hated - seems misunderstood. For one thing, it's the world's most powerful consumer IR blaster, meaning if you have an AV reciever, you can run that through the One and use voice to control every entertainment device in your living room. While I will still use my Harmony remote, it will primarily be used as a volume controller since everything else will be a vocalization away. I'm not expeciting it to entirely do away with my need for a remote, but options are always good. When I'm making dinner and I need to pause a movie and to look up a recipe or whatever, voice and gestures are most welcome. Another neat aspect of the Kinect 2 is it's ability to see you at a greater range and with greater clarity. Currently, if I slouch on my couch, the Kinect loses the ability to read my gestures... not so with the new one. Furthermore, the ability to read biometrics like pulse could result in games resoponding to your physiological state in an unprecedented way. A horror game could know that you were scared and react accordingly. A sniper scope could be steadied by actually holding your breath. That's really kickass, in my opinion, but hey... I minored in biofeedback. And just one more thing about the Kinect 2 that's cool is that they created a new sound filter so that if your game or whatever is deafening, it will be able to filter all of that out regardless of the volume. You actally will be able to use Kinect 2.0 for headset free chat. (I wouldn't do that if there were other people around where I was playing, but it would be neat if you were alone.) And in case you are wondering, people who want to be a jerk and stop your game, movie or whatever, will not be allowed to unless they pick up your controller. They made it douche-proof.

So that's the basic list of reasons I'm excited to see the new Xbox. I know a lot of people are saying that the PS4 is going to be more powerful, and frankly, I fully expect it to be. However, I see a lot of benefits to the One as a platform that outweigh any marginal graphical differences. I have always played games on a variety of devices, and while many of the benefits of the One aren't game oriented, it's still an exciting device that I look forward to putting through it's paces this holiday. And before you start the name-calling... I could make a list like this for the PS4, I just don't have to since the community at large continues to add to the heap of praise the PS4 recieves on a daily basis.

Yes we should take your word over bkililans lol. XBOunity

Bkillians doesn't even work for MS any more he worked on the audio and admited by him self he doesn't know all details about the xbox one,let alone the PS4 which he did work on..

You may as well quote Major nelson and Albert Panello while you are at it..:lol:

 

Keep talking, d****ss, I am rather enjoying watching you dig your grave.

 

StormyJoe

That is funny comming from you a blind fanboy that want people to ignore every single benchmark done on GCN to date to take his word on how both will be on par...:lol:

As much as 24 FPS mark that dude,the xbox one will have to give up resolution for frames as well as visuals.