Xbox One was a great leap forward until you guys ruined it...

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[QUOTE="poptart"]

I didn't know bluray stores higher resolution textures than DVD.

poptart

It stores bluray video quality cutscenes compared to DVD video quality, that alone is a huge improvement (but many lazy devs arent bothered to make 2 versions and some ps3 games end up with the same low quality video as Xbox360, like Borderlands 2)

As far as textures, some games DO have higher res textures on ps3 because of the extra space. Just go through a few DF faceoffs and you will find several references to it.

Uncompressed sound I think is a good advantage, although personally I couldn't careless about cut scenes. As for textures, well I've yet to see any differences that could justify the inclusion of a bluray player.... talk of these extra advantages really hark back to the conversations of 2007 - in reality: negligible... 

Dragon Age origins, with the extra disc space they included some higher resolution textures on the disc. It's not that Blu ray is any better at handling high res textures, it's that it has much more storage space so bigger texture files can be stored on disc, whether they be uncompressed or actually higher in resolution. Also look at Fallout 3 and New vegas, 360 did sport AA, but the PS3 had higher resolution textures.

Now I have to keep my disc in the drive risking scratching.      Thanks for that guys!

Now I have to bring my disc to my friends house risking losing it.      Thanks for that guys!

Now I have to send my disc to my friend that lives across the country.     Thanks for that guys!

Now I have to get less money from gamestop when I trade in my game.      Thanks for that guys!

Now I have to keep my disc in the drive risking scratching.      Thanks for that guys!

Now I have to bring my disc to my friends house risking losing it.      Thanks for that guys!

Now I have to send my disc to my friend that lives across the country.     Thanks for that guys!

Now I have to get less money from gamestop when I trade in my game.      Thanks for that guys!

xhawk27

What happened to this wonderous "magic power of the cloud"? Shouldn't you be able to access a digital download via the cloud? If not...... Blame MS

Cry me a river. Blame it on the rain

You don't have to go through Gamestop. You can sell your games for more on ebay or Amazon. More importantly, they were trying to find a loophole through the First Sale Doctrine, which is a disgrace.  Blame yourself for being too dumb to realize that.

Lems be desperate

:cool:

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="lockjaw333"] I will ask you to elaborate before I instinctively laugh.lockjaw333

So never once in your life were you ever loaned a game or given a game because a friend got bored of it or even bought a used game or even let a friend borrow a game of yours?

That's funny stuff there.

[QUOTE="neo418"]

Can we make a sticky where lems can cry about the old policies and how stupid ideas like game sharing would have never worked? 

HyperWarlock

Once Sony goes backrupt and discountines the FailStation 4, Xbox will be the only real new gen console. So start liking it, cockroach.

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[QUOTE="robybaggio"] Nothing. Well done. AdobeArtist

So you're going to deny that Arcades did nothing to innovate the industry.

The Arcades were purely run on Used gaming. Any Arcade machine you go to it was already played by another person.

What is this... I don't even... :?

OK, let's get something clear here. Arcade games were never purchased by the gamers in the first place, so there is no product ownership transfer to speak of. Arcade gaming was really more of a "rental" model. People paid for the amount of gaming time they could afford, and when they were done, the next person in line paid for their usage. Essentially arcades are a temporary usage, and you leave it behind when you're done.

Buying games from a store is literally buying a product for personal use, with no time limits. It's the same as buying a book, a toy, TV, computer, clothing, etc... The money is paid for use in your own home for as long as you like with no need to relenquish it after an hour, day or week.

How did you even come up with this comparison?? :|

The new slogan for Sony is this! Sony the future is the past!

xhawk27

kinect ruined it.

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[QUOTE="neo418"]

Can we make a sticky where lems can cry about the old policies and how stupid ideas like game sharing would have never worked? 

Khoo1992

Once Sony goes backrupt and discountines the FailStation 4, Xbox will be the only real new gen console. So start liking it, cockroach.

Sony gaming division has been on the green for 2 years, why would it go bankrupt?

The Last of Us is already making profit.

Sony TV division is not looking good, but the PS4 has nothing to fear!

(Sony TV division loses money, MS launches a Tvbox addon... hilarious)

Actually the only thing M$ did with their 180 was piss off the people who liked the idea of DRM and going digital. Everyone who wasn't gonna buy a Xbone before that still won't. Such a bad console.

NathanDrakeSwag

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

It would have cured it.  Pirating and used games are the cancer of the community, and If it would've shut up people like you, it would've removed the source as well.

GOGOGOGURT

Didn't present a solution so much as a good concept.  Lower the price and put the software on a cloud?  That's not a solution to piracy, it's a solution to more customers.

Wow. You've made several comments this thread that are absurd, but this one takes the cake.

How would that lead to more customers if the major challenge with the XB1 is the mandatory dependence on the internet? Many people who were interested  in buying one don't have consistent connection and some don't at all to no fault of their own.

Of course you will "reason" that the XBone just isn't "for you" in that scenario. But relating back to your statement, how would this lead to more customers?

[QUOTE="lockjaw333"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

So never once in your life were you ever loaned a game or given a game because a friend got bored of it or even bought a used game or even let a friend borrow a game of yours?

That's funny stuff there.

ryangcnx-2

I sorta agree with you, I agree the idiots who buy used to only save 5 bucks are really screwing the the Developers, but the longevity of it is that some games are not always in print, and if you didn't buy it day one, you may be hunting down a game used because it's no longer being printed. I had to do that with MGS: The Twin Snakes, Xenosaga 3, Tales of the Abyss, Pokemon Platinum F.E.A.R and so forth. Also keep in mind that they can take down a game for sale when it's digitial and it's gone forever unless they decide to put it back.

Imagine this senrario, say you missed out on some game that you want to play at launch, it's only released digitally, but for some reason there is a legal complication with it and it gets pulled after being for sale for 4 months and because the stupidity of companies arguing over rights its gone for good. Now you CAN NEVER play that game on your own console. You will have to hope one of your friends did in order to play it. 

These are the reasons why blocking used games suck. But again, I do agree that people should not buy used if they have the option to buy it new.

Ironically, there is an aspect to used games that people aren't considering. Suppose someone did buy used and play online. And this is after the game has gone out of print. They may see a feature while playing online and will feel inclined to buy it. In that scenario, DLC not online gives a bit of new life to a title, but can also still allow the developers to earn off the project down the line. The only catch with that is companies have been using this online pass code model which was (and still is) a HORRIBLE idea. (How shocking is it that EA, the publishers who invented it have abandoned it?)  

I sorta agree with you, I agree the idiots who buy used to only save 5 bucks are really screwing the the Developers, but the longevity of it is that some games are not always in print, and if you didn't buy it day one, you may be hunting down a game used because it's no longer being printed. I had to do that with MGS: The Twin Snakes, Xenosaga 3, Tales of the Abyss, Pokemon Platinum F.E.A.R and so forth. Also keep in mind that they can take down a game for sale when it's digitial and it's gone forever unless they decide to put it back.

Imagine this senrario, say you missed out on some game that you want to play at launch, it's only released digitally, but for some reason there is a legal complication with it and it gets pulled after being for sale for 4 months and because the stupidity of companies arguing over rights its gone for good. Now you CAN NEVER play that game on your own console. You will have to hope one of your friends did in order to play it. 

These are the reasons why blocking used games suck. But again, I do agree that people should not buy used if they have the option to buy it new.

ryangcnx-2

This is my argument.

Also you can't really loan out games digitally.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Actually the only thing M$ did with their 180 was piss off the people who liked the idea of DRM and going digital. Everyone who wasn't gonna buy a Xbone before that still won't. Such a bad console.

ziggyww

NathanDrakeSwag's Reasoning is not entirely true, because I'm sure there are a lot of people like me that Want to get an Xbox One somewhere down the road, but would LOVE to not worry about having the Internet involved when playing a game.

Also I love my Used Games, not the "buy a used game to get $5 off." that's BS I'm talking about games that are no longer in print. I want to be able to purchase a Used game for Xbox One and not worry about an extra fee because the System thinks I'm stealing.

[QUOTE="neo418"]

Can we make a sticky where lems can cry about the old policies and how stupid ideas like game sharing would have never worked? 

HyperWarlock

Once Sony goes backrupt and discountines the FailStation 4, Xbox will be the only real new gen console. So start liking it, cockroach.

[QUOTE="ryangcnx-2"]

This is my argument.

Also you can't really loan out games digitally.

[QUOTE="ziggyww"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Actually the only thing M$ did with their 180 was piss off the people who liked the idea of DRM and going digital. Everyone who wasn't gonna buy a Xbone before that still won't. Such a bad console.

LegatoSkyheart

NathanDrakeSwag's Reasoning is not entirely true, because I'm sure there are a lot of people like me that Want to get an Xbox One somewhere down the road, but would LOVE to not worry about having the Internet involved when playing a game.

Also I love my Used Games, not the "buy a used game to get $5 off." that's BS I'm talking about games that are no longer in print. I want to be able to purchase a Used game for Xbox One and not worry about an extra fee because the System thinks I'm stealing.

Im still looking for "Folklore"... out of print, it seems that is was never even sold where i live, and i cand find a decent priced copy online (it seems to be considered "rare", so the used price went up!).

Maybe when the PS4 comes out and people start to get rid of PS3 games i will be able to get a copy of it.

Sign the petition just like I did

Sure, a great leap forward in the direction of a cliff's edge.

This is Xbox One prior to reversalgate...

:P

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] http://torrentfreak.com/tired-of-the-war-on-piracy-adobe-hopes-to-turn-pirates-into-customers-130625/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29 Have fun playing dat wack a mole game. Benny_Blakk

Didn't present a solution so much as a good concept.  Lower the price and put the software on a cloud?  That's not a solution to piracy, it's a solution to more customers.

Wow. You've made several comments this thread that are absurd, but this one takes the cake.

How would that lead to more customers if the major challenge with the XB1 is the mandatory dependence on the internet? Many people who were interested  in buying one don't have consistent connection and some don't at all to no fault of their own.

Of course you will "reason" that the XBone just isn't "for you" in that scenario. But relating back to your statement, how would this lead to more customers?

Holy sh*t this thread is still going? :D

And I was talking about the article, not X1.  Adobe's way to deal with pirates.  No the mandatory 24 hour check would not lead to more customers.  But it's an easy fix.

If you have internet: check in every 24 hours, get all the benifits of digital gaming, sharing, cheap new games, digital libary, quick game swap, better trade in, blah blah blah

If you don't have internet: no check in every 24 hours, but you just get a normal console, no sharing no DD, must have disc to play, just like last gen.  Then you have the best of both worlds.

Xboys, i signed the petition to help you out. I sincerely hope you get all the original DRM reinstated as originally planed by MS. Nothing would please me more.