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#1  Edited By kvally
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Yet another amazing game coming to the Xbox console, along with PC. It looks like they have broadened the scope tremendously, much bigger than they anticipated. The attention to detail just looking at the framerate discussions is amazing. Looks like another hit for 2016 following the success of QB. Awwwwwww yeahhhhhhhh. Day one my friends.

http://time.com/4123150/cuphead-preview/

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Why go PC and Xbox One exclusive with Cuphead?

Cuphead is lifetime exclusive on Xbox for the console space, but in the PC space it’s going to be on every platform we can. So we’ll launch on PC and look into Mac and Linux thereafter.

But without Microsoft’s help and support, it would be hard to get to where we’re at today. For my brother and I to dump so much into this game and remortgage our houses and just put everything possible in to make this, it would’ve probably never happened, because it would have never reached the audience without the tons of marketing push that Microsoft’s been doing.

Our original idea was much smaller scope, eight to 10 bosses, nothing really crazy, and it would have just been a small indie game. But the current scope, thanks to Microsoft, is exactly what we dreamed of. So it’s a double-edge sword. Sure, Sony fans aren’t going to be able to buy Cuphead on their system. But at the same time, the people who do get to play Cuphead will get the full experience and not the smaller portion a three-man team was trying to pull off.

Any games in particular that influenced Cuphead from a gameplay standpoint?

From a strictly gameplay perspective, we grew up playing the classic run-and-gun game like the Contra series, especially Contra III: The Alien Warson Super Nintendo or Gunstar Heroes on Sega Genesis or spaceship shooters like the Thunder Force series. We’ve had this style of game in mind since we were teenagers.

It’s a little like the historical cinematic 24 frames per second ceiling, where that’s how slow you could go before the audio started to stutter, all to save money on the cost of film.

We’re also of the belief that 24 frames per second adds to the surrealism and the fantasy of movies. It feels more cinematic to watch 24 frames per second, like the picture’s removed from the world. As you approach the higher frame rates and it looks closer to real life, in our minds it takes away that magic. It starts to look like you and your friends got together and made a movie in your backyard with your home video camera.

I’m completely with you. I guess I prefer the distance?

That totally makes sense, and that’s why we purposely run all of the animation at 24 frames per second. But our gameplay is at 60 frames per second. So it’s technically the most responsive gameplay, except you don’t have to look at visuals that are too smooth.

There’s a lot of sequence looping in these older animated shorts. Was it a budgetary thing? I notice you’re doing it in Cuphead, where it’s synchronized with the music and the gameplay.

We didn’t 100% think of looping when we began preproduction on visuals, but as we studied the cartoons, we saw it kind of synced up with how video games work. Almost every game has looping animation, and modern games try to hide it by having multiple paths to choose different loops and animations, so it seems much more natural. But it just happens to coincide that the style of retro game that we want and 1930s cartoons, the looping lends itself beautifully and fits the era perfectly. The reason they had a ton of loops was just as you said, budget and time. It was only in later Disney years that they didn’t reuse as many things.

I always find it funny when I think that the art director on The Little Mermaid demanded that all of the bubbles had to be hand-drawn, and they didn’t use digital techniques to replicate them. That’s the heyday of having way too much money for hand-drawn projects.

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#2 casharmy
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So...lems are hyping Indie level titles now?

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#3 SecretPolice
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A no doubt 10/10 from all those not named GS. :P

Seriously, dunno why this game falls off my radar sometimes but I'm pumped, thanks for the info.....This gun b gud. :D

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That game has the potential to be a sleeper hit for the X1, looking forward to playing it.

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#5 R4gn4r0k
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Will play this multiplat on PC, just like that other multiplat, No Man's Sky :)

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I think I will pass, it's just not my type of game.

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#7 intotheminx
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@casharmy said:

So...lems are hyping Indie level titles now?

The Sony camp does this as well. However, I'll admit Cuphead looks fun from what I've seen and that's all that matters in the end.

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#10  Edited By casharmy
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@intotheminx:

FALSE

Sony fans aren't the one going around saying, "No one buys consoles for indie level filler garbage titles" or when another system has games posted which includes these kinds of titles it gets called "indiestation" as if the titles aren't worth anything.

Why are xbox fans hyping games they claim have no value or hate?

xbox fanboys came up with these arguments and titles, so my question is quite valid and now it seems people are upset because I ask a question that is related to the type of game being promoted by a camp that shrugs these titles off as worthless in every other discussion.

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#11 WeepsForFools
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@casharmy thread wasn't even started by a lem so why are you talking

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#12  Edited By Ten_Pints
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Well technically once a publisher gets involved with money doesn't it seize to be an indie title?

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@WeepsForFools: it's actually an alt.

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@casharmy said:

@intotheminx:

FALSE

Sony fans aren't the one going around saying, "No one buys consoles for indie level filler garbage titles" or when another system has games posted which includes these kinds of titles it gets called "indiestation" as if the titles aren't worth anything.

Why are xbox fans hyping games they claim have no value or hate?

xbox fanboys came up with these arguments and titles, so my question is quite valid and now it seems people are upset because I ask a question that is related to the type of game being promoted by a camp that shrugs these titles off as worthless in every other discussion.

I said Sony fans hype up indies as well, which is not false. I remember a game called Journey being hyped. Not sure why you wrote a paragraph to deny it.

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#15 kvally
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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@WeepsForFools: it's actually an alt.

No alt here. Always been Kvally at Gamespot. Always been Kvally71 on Steam. Always been Kvally on Xbox. Always been Kvally on PSN. Always been Kvally on Twitch. Always been Kvally on all my forums. (you can look them all up) No time for stupid childish "create account" for a new name for no reason. Who has time for that shit?

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#16 Draign
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I dont like to hype Indie level games at all. But i understand why people are superinterested in Cuphead. This might be the first and only indie level game I purchase.

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@intotheminx said:
@casharmy said:

@intotheminx:

FALSE

Sony fans aren't the one going around saying, "No one buys consoles for indie level filler garbage titles" or when another system has games posted which includes these kinds of titles it gets called "indiestation" as if the titles aren't worth anything.

Why are xbox fans hyping games they claim have no value or hate?

xbox fanboys came up with these arguments and titles, so my question is quite valid and now it seems people are upset because I ask a question that is related to the type of game being promoted by a camp that shrugs these titles off as worthless in every other discussion.

I said Sony fans hype up indies as well, which is not false. I remember a game called Journey being hyped. Not sure why you wrote a paragraph to deny it.

Nothing wrong with hyping indies, but lem bashed cow about indies with names like Indiestation4. Lems also said that they didn't buy next generation consoles to play indies. Oddly, now indies are all the rage because Lems said so.

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Can't lie. I want this game.

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#19  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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LOL it's come down to arguing console space exclusives now. If it's not an exclusive....it's not an exclusive. I thought lems were against indies judging from the posts in SW.

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#20  Edited By iambatman7986
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I've been excited for this since they first showed it. It sucks it won't be coming to Playstation and Nintendo consoles. I don't want people to miss out on a potentially great game.

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#21  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@LJS9502_basic said:

LOL it's come down to arguing console space exclusives now. If it's not an exclusive....it's not an exclusive. I thought lems were against indies judging from the posts in SW.

Lems are all over the map this generation. They are trying to find a place to belong.

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I want this game, NOW! I don't care where else it's releasing, and its unforunate that PS4-only owners cannot play it because I would like this game to sell as much as possible if it delivers on its premise. At least Xbox haters/non-owners can go the PC route. Absolutely love the art style and the fact that it is apparently a very challenging game. Please turn out good.

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#23 NathanDrakeSwag
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Now lems are hyping up indie multiplats. A new level of desperation.

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Hope this is a Steam game and we not need Win 10 to play this.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Can't lie. I want this game.

Ditto. Wish it was coming to PS4.

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#26 kvally
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

LOL it's come down to arguing console space exclusives now. If it's not an exclusive....it's not an exclusive. I thought lems were against indies judging from the posts in SW.

Lems are all over the map this generation. They are trying to find a place to belong.

As are the cows. It's like a catch-22. The good news is, even the cows can play this game on their PC. They won't miss out. A win win for gamers!

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Now lems are hyping up indie multiplats. A new level of desperation.

They are in purgatory this generation.

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#28 misterpmedia
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lol always feel bad for the devs when reading what they say regarding not being on the better and the more popular current console.

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#29 silversix_
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"along with pc". Not an exclusive so why would anyone buy this game on the inferior system that may have trouble running this indie title?

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#30  Edited By misterpmedia
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

LOL it's come down to arguing console space exclusives now. If it's not an exclusive....it's not an exclusive. I thought lems were against indies judging from the posts in SW.

Lems are all over the map this generation. They are trying to find a place to belong.

lems will be having an identity crisis all this gen if things keep up. It's already happening with windows 10. Soon they will be an outdated and obsolete race

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#31  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@misterpmedia said:

lol always feel bad for the devs when reading what they say regarding not being on the better and the more popular current console.

yablewit.jpg

Translation: MS deal would not allow us to go to the PS4, but it didn't say anything about PC and we need more potential money and PC offer us that.

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#32 Kruiz_Bathory
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@kvally: a lot of people seem to have the time of the world. But it is entertaining I have to admit.

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#33 Flyincloud1116
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@misterpmedia said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

LOL it's come down to arguing console space exclusives now. If it's not an exclusive....it's not an exclusive. I thought lems were against indies judging from the posts in SW.

Lems are all over the map this generation. They are trying to find a place to belong.

lems will be having an identity crisis all this gen if things keep up. It's already happening with windows 10. Soon they will be an outdated and obsolete race

The want to be hermits, but their hardware is to shitty. Look what they did to QB in PC.

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@misterpmedia said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

LOL it's come down to arguing console space exclusives now. If it's not an exclusive....it's not an exclusive. I thought lems were against indies judging from the posts in SW.

Lems are all over the map this generation. They are trying to find a place to belong.

lems will be having an identity crisis all this gen if things keep up. It's already happening with windows 10. Soon they will be an outdated and obsolete race

The want to be hermits, but their hardware is to shitty. Look what they did to QB in PC.

They are welfare hermits.

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#35 drummerdave9099
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I wish it was available as a physical copy, just like I wish Ori was :/ Now i'm gonna be stuck waiting until it comes to GWG

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@silversix_ said:

"along with pc". Not an exclusive so why would anyone buy this game on the inferior system that may have trouble running this indie title?

You are seriously grasping at straws if you think the Xbox is going to struggle with running this game.

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#37 darkangel115
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Looks dumb, I wish the whole indie scene would disappear but all the neckbeards and hipsters keep it going. indie games are a waste of everyone's time and money

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#38 DaVillain  Moderator
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I have been following Cuphead for a long time. Judging by the post here, I take it no one isn't a fan of old school cartoons from the 1940-60 era and this is coming from a person who enjoy watching these old school cartoons when I was growing up in the 90's and the graphics looks like you're actually watching a t.v cartoons on a Saturday morning. Other then that, I'm looking forward to Cuphead and if you guys are NOT an old school cartoon person, then it's totally not for you. Having said that, the developers had to use old school arts to create the 30's-60's art-style which they borrow from Disney's Micky Mouse and other cartoons series.

All in all, Cuphead is definitely a day one purchase :P

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@casharmy said:

@intotheminx:

FALSE

Sony fans aren't the one going around saying, "No one buys consoles for indie level filler garbage titles" or when another system has games posted which includes these kinds of titles it gets called "indiestation" as if the titles aren't worth anything.

Why are xbox fans hyping games they claim have no value or hate?

xbox fanboys came up with these arguments and titles, so my question is quite valid and now it seems people are upset because I ask a question that is related to the type of game being promoted by a camp that shrugs these titles off as worthless in every other discussion.

Why did cows claim the journey was the second gaming when for most of last gen they tried to claim indies didn't count.

Swings and roundabouts, both lems and cows are as bad as each other

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@casharmy said:

So...lems are hyping Indie level titles now?

Now indies count again..hahahahaa

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#41 delta3074
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@silversix_ said:

"along with pc". Not an exclusive so why would anyone buy this game on the inferior system that may have trouble running this indie title?

'may have trouble running this indie title?'

oh lordy are you actually being serious?

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#42  Edited By silversix_
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@delta3074 said:
@silversix_ said:

"along with pc". Not an exclusive so why would anyone buy this game on the inferior system that may have trouble running this indie title?

'may have trouble running this indie title?'

oh lordy are you actually being serious?

It has a lot of effects!!!

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#43  Edited By kvally
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@delta3074 said:
@silversix_ said:

"along with pc". Not an exclusive so why would anyone buy this game on the inferior system that may have trouble running this indie title?

'may have trouble running this indie title?'

oh lordy are you actually being serious?

Yes, yes he is. Look at the poster, it's obvious.

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#44 delta3074
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@tormentos said:
@casharmy said:

So...lems are hyping Indie level titles now?

Now indies count again..hahahahaa

Indies have always counted to real gamers it's only fanboys that flip flop all over the place.

Helps that indie games these days are generally better games and more fun because there isn't the focus on the best Graphics or resolutions.

ps4 has a ton of stellar indie titles i would love to play like helldivers for example Xbox has been quite a let down as far as indies are concerned which is disappointing considering they where generally on the ball with indie titles last gen

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bummer for cows. game looks pretty incredible

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#46  Edited By silversix_
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@kvally said:
@delta3074 said:
@silversix_ said:

"along with pc". Not an exclusive so why would anyone buy this game on the inferior system that may have trouble running this indie title?

'may have trouble running this indie title?'

oh lordy are you actually being serious?

Yes, yes he is. Look at the poster, it's obvious.

You could generalize the performance of Xbox One that way. "look at the console, its obvious" when talking about the performance. That indie game that came out ~1month ago on the PS4 dropped to 40's, this may as well.

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#47 delta3074
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@intotheminx said:
@casharmy said:

@intotheminx:

FALSE

Sony fans aren't the one going around saying, "No one buys consoles for indie level filler garbage titles" or when another system has games posted which includes these kinds of titles it gets called "indiestation" as if the titles aren't worth anything.

Why are xbox fans hyping games they claim have no value or hate?

xbox fanboys came up with these arguments and titles, so my question is quite valid and now it seems people are upset because I ask a question that is related to the type of game being promoted by a camp that shrugs these titles off as worthless in every other discussion.

I said Sony fans hype up indies as well, which is not false. I remember a game called Journey being hyped. Not sure why you wrote a paragraph to deny it.

Nothing wrong with hyping indies, but lem bashed cow about indies with names like Indiestation4. Lems also said that they didn't buy next generation consoles to play indies. Oddly, now indies are all the rage because Lems said so.

where did the lem state or even imply they where 'all the rage'

i must have missed that one.

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#48 kvally
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@delta3074 said:
@tormentos said:
@casharmy said:

So...lems are hyping Indie level titles now?

Now indies count again..hahahahaa

Indies have always counted to real gamers it's only fanboys that flip flop all over the place.

Helps that indie games these days are generally better games and more fun because there isn't the focus on the best Graphics or resolutions.

ps4 has a ton of stellar indie titles i would love to play like helldivers for example Xbox has been quite a let down as far as indies are concerned which is disappointing considering they where generally on the ball with indie titles last gen

Just get Helldivers on Windows PC. It's a much better choice.

@silversix_ said:
. That indie game that came out ~1month ago on the PS4 dropped to 40's, this may as well.

True. Point taken.

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@silversix_ said:
@kvally said:
@delta3074 said:
@silversix_ said:

"along with pc". Not an exclusive so why would anyone buy this game on the inferior system that may have trouble running this indie title?

'may have trouble running this indie title?'

oh lordy are you actually being serious?

Yes, yes he is. Look at the poster, it's obvious.

You could generalize the performance of Xbox One that way. "look at the console, its obvious" when talking about the performance. That indie game that came out ~1month ago on the PS4 dropped to 40's, this may as well.

Fair enough, at least you are looking at it Objectively and not just being a fanboy kudos)

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@kvally said:
@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@WeepsForFools: it's actually an alt.

No alt here. Always been Kvally at Gamespot. Always been Kvally71 on Steam. Always been Kvally on Xbox. Always been Kvally on PSN. Always been Kvally on Twitch. Always been Kvally on all my forums. (you can look them all up) No time for stupid childish "create account" for a new name for no reason. Who has time for that shit?

You didn't need to go all into details. We all know it's the real deal you.