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Xbox One's Cuphead: Lifetime Exclusive on Xbox for console space

kvally · 2016-04-13 05:57:55

Yet another amazing game coming to the Xbox console, along with PC. It looks like they have broadened the scope tremendously, much bigger than they anticipated. The attention to detail just looking at the framerate discussions is amazing. Looks like another hit for 2016 following the success of QB. Awwwwwww yeahhhhhhhh. Day one my friends.http://time.com/4123150/cuphead-preview/Here are some choice quotes:Why go PC and Xbox One exclusive with Cuphead?Cuphead is lifetime exclusive on Xbox for the console space, but in the PC space it’s going to be on every platform we can. So we’ll launch on PC and look into Mac and Linux thereafter.But without Microsoft’s help and support, it would be hard to get to where we’re at today. For my brother and I to dump so much into this game and remortgage our houses and just put everything possible in to make this, it would’ve probably never happened, because it would have never reached the audience without the tons of marketing push that Microsoft’s been doing.Our original idea was much smaller scope, eight to 10 bosses, nothing really crazy, and it would have just been a small indie game. But the current scope, thanks to Microsoft, is exactly what we dreamed of. So it’s a double-edge sword. Sure, Sony fans aren’t going to be able to buy Cuphead on their system. But at the same time, the people who do get to play Cuphead will get the full experience and not the smaller portion a three-man team was trying to pull off. Any games in particular that influenced Cuphead from a gameplay standpoint?From a strictly gameplay perspective, we grew up playing the classic run-and-gun game like the Contra series, especially Contra III: The Alien Warson Super Nintendo or Gunstar Heroes on Sega Genesis or spaceship shooters like the Thunder Force series. We’ve had this style of game in mind since we were teenagers. It’s a little like the historical cinematic 24 frames per second ceiling, where that’s how slow you could go before the audio started to stutter, all to save money on the cost of film.We’re also of the belief that 24 frames per second adds to the surrealism and the fantasy of movies. It feels more cinematic to watch 24 frames per second, like the picture’s removed from the world. As you approach the higher frame rates and it looks closer to real life, in our minds it takes away that magic. It starts to look like you and your friends got together and made a movie in your backyard with your home video camera.I’m completely with you. I guess I prefer the distance?That totally makes sense, and that’s why we purposely run all of the animation at 24 frames per second. But our gameplay is at 60 frames per second. So it’s technically the most responsive gameplay, except you don’t have to look at visuals that are too smooth. There’s a lot of sequence looping in these older animated shorts. Was it a budgetary thing? I notice you’re doing it in Cuphead, where it’s synchronized with the music and the gameplay.We didn’t 100% think of looping when we began preproduction on visuals, but as we studied the cartoons, we saw it kind of synced up with how video games work. Almost every game has looping animation, and modern games try to hide it by having multiple paths to choose different loops and animations, so it seems much more natural. But it just happens to coincide that the style of retro game that we want and 1930s cartoons, the looping lends itself beautifully and fits the era perfectly. The reason they had a ton of loops was just as you said, budget and time. It was only in later Disney years that they didn’t reuse as many things.I always find it funny when I think that the art director on The Little Mermaid demanded that all of the bubbles had to be hand-drawn, and they didn’t use digital techniques to replicate them. That’s the heyday of having way too much money for hand-drawn projects.

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#151 clone01

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@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

Well lets focus on the fact that most people do agree that 99% of indie games are trash. Sure there is 1% that seems pretty well liked by some people.

Okay, first. Let's stop right there. Who are most people? Is this a statistic you've made up, or do you have some research that backs this claim? Or is it your personal experience, which is an invalid argument.

So ignore everything else because I'm right? classic.

Just took a look at steam and the 10s of thousands if "indie" games that are just beyond bad.

http://www.gamesradar.com/24-laughably-terrible-xbla-indie-games/

That list is pretty much what most indie games are.

How about responding to my other part?

Except, you're not right. You specifically said that 99% of indie games are trash, and that most people agree with that. Where did you get that data? Or is that hyperbole? Linking the worst of the worst does nothing to reinforce your argument.

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#152 darkangel115

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@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

Well lets focus on the fact that most people do agree that 99% of indie games are trash. Sure there is 1% that seems pretty well liked by some people.

Okay, first. Let's stop right there. Who are most people? Is this a statistic you've made up, or do you have some research that backs this claim? Or is it your personal experience, which is an invalid argument.

So ignore everything else because I'm right? classic.

Just took a look at steam and the 10s of thousands if "indie" games that are just beyond bad.

http://www.gamesradar.com/24-laughably-terrible-xbla-indie-games/

That list is pretty much what most indie games are.

How about responding to my other part?

Except, you're not right. You specifically said that 99% of indie games are trash, and that most people agree with that. Where did you get that data? Or is that hyperbole? Linking the worst of the worst does nothing to reinforce your argument.

there are literally 10s of thousands of indie games especially on PC. Most people only ever hear of a small %. There is a reason you aren't even aware of that apparently.

Regardless I'd love to see your response to the rest of my argument. Picking 1 thing and harping on it only shows you know I'm right.

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#153 dante1972

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Looks awesome. Thank goodness I can play on PC.

PC & PS4 for the win. Who needs an XBOX. Probably suffer from 900p or frame rate drops.

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#154 clone01

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@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

Well lets focus on the fact that most people do agree that 99% of indie games are trash. Sure there is 1% that seems pretty well liked by some people.

Okay, first. Let's stop right there. Who are most people? Is this a statistic you've made up, or do you have some research that backs this claim? Or is it your personal experience, which is an invalid argument.

So ignore everything else because I'm right? classic.

Just took a look at steam and the 10s of thousands if "indie" games that are just beyond bad.

http://www.gamesradar.com/24-laughably-terrible-xbla-indie-games/

That list is pretty much what most indie games are.

How about responding to my other part?

Except, you're not right. You specifically said that 99% of indie games are trash, and that most people agree with that. Where did you get that data? Or is that hyperbole? Linking the worst of the worst does nothing to reinforce your argument.

there are literally 10s of thousands of indie games especially on PC. Most people only ever hear of a small %. There is a reason you aren't even aware of that apparently.

Regardless I'd love to see your response to the rest of my argument. Picking 1 thing and harping on it only shows you know I'm right.

Yet you've still provided zero evidence that no one likes indie games. Its not harping, its a matter of argument. Please provide evidence that 99% of gamers don't want indie games.

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#155 darkangel115

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@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

Okay, first. Let's stop right there. Who are most people? Is this a statistic you've made up, or do you have some research that backs this claim? Or is it your personal experience, which is an invalid argument.

So ignore everything else because I'm right? classic.

Just took a look at steam and the 10s of thousands if "indie" games that are just beyond bad.

http://www.gamesradar.com/24-laughably-terrible-xbla-indie-games/

That list is pretty much what most indie games are.

How about responding to my other part?

Except, you're not right. You specifically said that 99% of indie games are trash, and that most people agree with that. Where did you get that data? Or is that hyperbole? Linking the worst of the worst does nothing to reinforce your argument.

there are literally 10s of thousands of indie games especially on PC. Most people only ever hear of a small %. There is a reason you aren't even aware of that apparently.

Regardless I'd love to see your response to the rest of my argument. Picking 1 thing and harping on it only shows you know I'm right.

Yet you've still provided zero evidence that no one likes indie games. Its not harping, its a matter of argument. Please provide evidence that 99% of gamers don't want indie games.

Lol and you can't even read. That isn't what I said. I'm not replying anymore unless you want to comment on the 2nd part of my argument

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#156 clone01

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@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

@darkangel115 said:

So ignore everything else because I'm right? classic.

Just took a look at steam and the 10s of thousands if "indie" games that are just beyond bad.

http://www.gamesradar.com/24-laughably-terrible-xbla-indie-games/

That list is pretty much what most indie games are.

How about responding to my other part?

Except, you're not right. You specifically said that 99% of indie games are trash, and that most people agree with that. Where did you get that data? Or is that hyperbole? Linking the worst of the worst does nothing to reinforce your argument.

there are literally 10s of thousands of indie games especially on PC. Most people only ever hear of a small %. There is a reason you aren't even aware of that apparently.

Regardless I'd love to see your response to the rest of my argument. Picking 1 thing and harping on it only shows you know I'm right.

Yet you've still provided zero evidence that no one likes indie games. Its not harping, its a matter of argument. Please provide evidence that 99% of gamers don't want indie games.

Lol and you can't even read. That isn't what I said. I'm not replying anymore unless you want to comment on the 2nd part of my argument

Address the first part, and I'll address the second part.

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#157 tormentos

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@darkangel115 said:

@clone01 said:

Except, you're not right. You specifically said that 99% of indie games are trash, and that most people agree with that. Where did you get that data? Or is that hyperbole? Linking the worst of the worst does nothing to reinforce your argument.

there are literally 10s of thousands of indie games especially on PC. Most people only ever hear of a small %. There is a reason you aren't even aware of that apparently.

Regardless I'd love to see your response to the rest of my argument. Picking 1 thing and harping on it only shows you know I'm right.

This is one i have to side with Clone, link me to that article with proof that 99% of indies are trash.

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#158 naughtyottsel

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@sts106mat said:

@naughtyottsel said:

@sts106mat said:

@naughtyottsel said:

@sts106mat said:

i believe the truth, i was here to see it for myself.

Have i ever discussed with you about sales and how they matter? why are you trying to change the subject?

You believe what you wanna believe man, I've seen differently.

Oh just pointing out how you lems are hypocrites is all.

well you have voices in your head, so its not surprising that you think you have seen differently.

If you were here during the PS3/360 period i doubt you would be arguing otherwise., so really your opinion on what i am saying is completely invalid as far as i am concerned.

call me a hypocrit all you want, i dont give one.

Lol I love you lems and the whole "you hear voices" rubbish, if believing I'm insane helps you twits sleep then go for it.

Oh I was on IGN and watched here, it was you lot being smug dickheads.

Yet you're still responding, anyway time to live in sts' world for a sec.

I'm going out now to go pick up a game that my niece infuriatingly paid for on my ebay account and sent to a store instead of my bloody house meaning I need to travel for an hour. -insert STS you have been owned comment here since he's delusional as fudge-

Dave, you have been owned and so "now you have to go do something else" how strange!

Oh lord, you are a silly one sts I'll give you that.

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