Xbox360 lineup for 2009 seems great, maybe better than '08

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

What would you rate that 360 lineup in 2009 out of 10 ?

By the games in this post that is

Gaming_Guru_Guy

[QUOTE="Gaming_Guru_Guy"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

What would you rate that 360 lineup in 2009 out of 10 ?

By the games in this post that is

nervmeister

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

You might be right , but I don't see too many things that I am really interested in at this present time. Alan Wait , Splinter Cell Conviction , and .....

blackace

I feel the same way about the PS3. There are about 4-5 exclusive games on the PS3 coming out in 2009 that I want to play (White Knight, InFamous, God of War 3, Killzone 2 & FF XIII VS).

I'm interested in all these games on the XBox 360 in 2009. If you think people aren't interested and many of these titles, you're crazy.

Mass Effect 2
Chronicles of Riddick
Precursors
fallout 3 Exclusive DLC
Star Ocean IV
Halo Wars
Halo 3: ODST
Splinter Cell Conviction
GTA IV: DLC
Forza 3
Blue Dragon 2
Severity
Dragon Age
Dues Ex 3
Bioshock 2
Beyond Good & Evil 2

So what you're saying is there are about 4-5 exclusive games on the 360 coming out in 2009 that you want to play.

Looks like Mass Effect and it's sequels are likely coming to PS3 given EA bought up Bioware.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4465.html

And the links the OP used to claim that Mass Effect and Kingdom Under Fire II aren't coming to PS3 are old as hell.

Looks like Mass Effect and it's sequels are likely coming to PS3 given EA bought up Bioware.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4465.html

And the links the OP used to claim that Mass Effect and Kingdom Under Fire II aren't coming to PS3 are old as hell.

Angstx-

[QUOTE="Angstx-"]

Looks like Mass Effect and it's sequels are likely coming to PS3 given EA bought up Bioware.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4465.html

And the links the OP used to claim that Mass Effect and Kingdom Under Fire II aren't coming to PS3 are old as hell.

Lcamm

the way i see it is(imo)

ps3 lineup 09>>>360 lineup

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Angstx-"]

Looks like Mass Effect and it's sequels are likely coming to PS3 given EA bought up Bioware.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4465.html

And the links the OP used to claim that Mass Effect and Kingdom Under Fire II aren't coming to PS3 are old as hell.

ps3_owns_360Wii

the way i see it is(imo)

ps3 lineup 09>>>360 lineup

Thing is MS has tons of games that havent been annouced yet

They dont annouce games 4 years in advance like Sony does

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="Lcamm"] I said it before and ill say it again, MS probably has some deal with EA and they wont let ME go to another console The developers of KUF2 already confirmed it like 8 times that it isnt coming to the 360 I just find it sad that Cows have little confidence in their 09 line up Lcamm

the way i see it is(imo)

ps3 lineup 09>>>360 lineup

Thing is MS has tons of games that havent been annouced yet

They dont annouce games 4 years in advance like Sony does

sony does that to hype their games, even though it always isnt a good thing.

i really cant wait for GDC and E3 to see what the big 3 have in store

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="Lcamm"] I said it before and ill say it again, MS probably has some deal with EA and they wont let ME go to another console The developers of KUF2 already confirmed it like 8 times that it isnt coming to the 360 I just find it sad that Cows have little confidence in their 09 line up Lcamm

the way i see it is(imo)

ps3 lineup 09>>>360 lineup

Thing is MS has tons of games that havent been annouced yet

They dont annouce games 4 years in advance like Sony does

[QUOTE="Angstx-"]

Looks like Mass Effect and it's sequels are likely coming to PS3 given EA bought up Bioware.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4465.html

And the links the OP used to claim that Mass Effect and Kingdom Under Fire II aren't coming to PS3 are old as hell.

Lcamm

They don't. Microsoft had exclusive publishing rights until EA bought Bioware. EA then worked out a deal with Microsoft where EA would have publishing rights.

Hence the PC port is published by EA.

They can port it legally no problem, and knowing EA, they probably will.

And, I have plenty of confidence with the 2009 line-up.

For example, Killzone 2 currently has a 97 on Metacritic.

And I'll probably buy a 360 around March so I'm not really a Sony fanboy either.

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Angstx-"]

Looks like Mass Effect and it's sequels are likely coming to PS3 given EA bought up Bioware.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4465.html

And the links the OP used to claim that Mass Effect and Kingdom Under Fire II aren't coming to PS3 are old as hell.

Angstx-

They don't. Microsoft had exclusive publishing rights until EA bought Bioware. EA then worked out a deal with Microsoft where EA would have publishing rights.

Hence the PC port is published by EA.

They can port it legally no problem, and knowing EA, they probably will.

And, I have plenty of confidence with the 2009 line-up.

For example, Killzone 2 currently has a 97 on Metacritic.

And I'll probably buy a 360 around March so I'm not really a Sony fanboy either.

[QUOTE="Angstx-"][QUOTE="Lcamm"] I said it before and ill say it again, MS probably has some deal with EA and they wont let ME go to another console The developers of KUF2 already confirmed it like 8 times that it isnt coming to the 360 I just find it sad that Cows have little confidence in their 09 line up Lcamm

They don't. Microsoft had exclusive publishing rights until EA bought Bioware. EA then worked out a deal with Microsoft where EA would have publishing rights.

Hence the PC port is published by EA.

They can port it legally no problem, and knowing EA, they probably will.

And, I have plenty of confidence with the 2009 line-up.

For example, Killzone 2 currently has a 97 on Metacritic.

And I'll probably buy a 360 around March so I'm not really a Sony fanboy either.

So what you're saying is that you have no idea whether or not ME will go to the PS3.

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Angstx-"]

They don't. Microsoft had exclusive publishing rights until EA bought Bioware. EA then worked out a deal with Microsoft where EA would have publishing rights.

Hence the PC port is published by EA.

They can port it legally no problem, and knowing EA, they probably will.

And, I have plenty of confidence with the 2009 line-up.

For example, Killzone 2 currently has a 97 on Metacritic.

And I'll probably buy a 360 around March so I'm not really a Sony fanboy either.

Silverbond

So what you're saying is that you have no idea whether or not ME will go to the PS3.

MS had publishing rights up until early 2008 when they worked out a deal with EA Knowing MS they had some deal with EA to keep it exclusive in exchange for the publishing rights MS already had an exclusive deal with Bioware and paid for the development of the game, that all just doesnt go away when EA bought Bioware When one company buys another they inherit everything including deals, contracts and debt Which means any exclusive deal MS had with Bioware still stands I suggest you do some research Also KZ2 has a 97 on metacritics because its been reviewed by 3 playstation magazines once again try to do some research before you talk Lcamm

Honestly, all the EA, M$ and Bioware talk is just rumour, has is ME coming to the PS3, so until the game is at least announcedtalking about stuff like that is just speculation.

And, megamrs is not a playstation magazine.

[QUOTE="Lcamm"]

MS had publishing rights up until early 2008 when they worked out a deal with EA Knowing MS they had some deal with EA to keep it exclusive in exchange for the publishing rights MS already had an exclusive deal with Bioware and paid for the development of the game, that all just doesnt go away when EA bought Bioware When one company buys another they inherit everything including deals, contracts and debt Which means any exclusive deal MS had with Bioware still stands I suggest you do some research Also KZ2 has a 97 on metacritics because its been reviewed by 3 playstation magazines once again try to do some research before you talk DarkyC

Honestly, all the EA, M$ and Bioware talk is just rumour, has is ME coming to the PS3, so until the game is at least announcedtalking about stuff like that is just speculation.

And, megamrs is not a playstation magazine.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]MS had publishing rights up until early 2008 when they worked out a deal with EA Knowing MS they had some deal with EA to keep it exclusive in exchange for the publishing rights MS already had an exclusive deal with Bioware and paid for the development of the game, that all just doesnt go away when EA bought Bioware When one company buys another they inherit everything including deals, contracts and debt Which means any exclusive deal MS had with Bioware still stands I suggest you do some research Also KZ2 has a 97 on metacritics because its been reviewed by 3 playstation magazines once again try to do some research before you talk Lcamm

So what you're saying is that you have no idea whether or not ME will go to the PS3.

M$ already has, the PC version of ME was published by EA and so will the 360 new version.

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

So what you're saying is that you have no idea whether or not ME will go to the PS3.

DarkyC

M$ already has, the PC version of ME was published by EA and so will the 360 new version.

They paid for the development and for the exclusive rights to the game, which still stands even if EA did buy out Bioware

[QUOTE="DarkyC"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]

MS had publishing rights up until early 2008 when they worked out a deal with EA Knowing MS they had some deal with EA to keep it exclusive in exchange for the publishing rights MS already had an exclusive deal with Bioware and paid for the development of the game, that all just doesnt go away when EA bought Bioware When one company buys another they inherit everything including deals, contracts and debt Which means any exclusive deal MS had with Bioware still stands I suggest you do some research Also KZ2 has a 97 on metacritics because its been reviewed by 3 playstation magazines once again try to do some research before you talk Lcamm

Honestly, all the EA, M$ and Bioware talk is just rumour, has is ME coming to the PS3, so until the game is at least announcedtalking about stuff like that is just speculation.

And, megamrs is not a playstation magazine.

And I'm being realistic. If EA is still EA, it will probably see a PS3 port.

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="DarkyC"]

Honestly, all the EA, M$ and Bioware talk is just rumour, has is ME coming to the PS3, so until the game is at least announcedtalking about stuff like that is just speculation.

And, megamrs is not a playstation magazine.

Silverbond

And I'm being realistic. If EA is still EA, it will probably see a PS3 port.

You arent being realistic, you just don't understand how the legal system works

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]It is a rumor but I'm also being realistic Again MS isnt going to let their top RPG go to another console, they actually fight for their exclusives And they didnt hand over the publishing rights to EA without some guarantee it would remain a 360/pc game Lcamm

And I'm being realistic. If EA is still EA, it will probably see a PS3 port.

You arent being realistic, you just don't understand how the legal system works

There is no evidence of a deal. MS gave away the publishing rights.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]It is a rumor but I'm also being realistic Again MS isnt going to let their top RPG go to another console, they actually fight for their exclusives And they didnt hand over the publishing rights to EA without some guarantee it would remain a 360/pc game Lcamm

And I'm being realistic. If EA is still EA, it will probably see a PS3 port.

You arent being realistic, you just don't understand how the legal system works

What deal? Do you have any actual proof that M$ had a deal for ME or the sequels? No, because these are just rumours like the ones saying ME will come to the PS3. The only deal we know about is the rights for M$ publish ME for the 360.

By your logic, Microsoft probably had some special exclusive deal with 2K and Bioshock. I mean, there's no way that's coming to PS3, right?

People were using the same arguments to claim that there was no way in hell Bioshock was going to the PS3.

You don't know Microsoft had a special exclusive deal, and EA isn't going to be willing to make Mass Effect 2 exclusive because Microsoft has only exclusive rights to publishing the first one - which they by the way gave to EA anyways.

[QUOTE="DarkyC"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]Doesnt matter if EA is EA, MS still had a deal with Bioware before EA bought them out which still stands

You arent being realistic, you just don't understand how the legal system works

Lcamm

What deal? Do you have any actual proof that M$ had a deal for ME or the sequels? No, because these are just rumours like the ones saying ME will come to the PS3. The only deal we know about is the rights for M$ publish ME for the 360.

Again, one word.

BioShock.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]Doesnt matter if EA is EA, MS still had a deal with Bioware before EA bought them out which still stands

You arent being realistic, you just don't understand how the legal system works

Lcamm

There is no evidence of a deal. MS gave away the publishing rights.

Do you even think when you talk? This is MS we are talking about, they arent stupid and they worked out a deal with EA

They also had exclusivity before EA bought Bioware which still stands

Like I said before when one company buys another they inherit EVERYTHING, Including debts, contracts and other deals, and that includes whatever deal MS had with Bioware

Even if it was just for publishing rights, Again its only fair to assume MS worked out something with EA prior to handing over the Publishing rights

No, they didn't just give it to them.

Microsoft probably made a lot of money off of it.

Microsoft doesn't give a flying **** about exclusives unless it makes them cash. And they found more money to be made by selling EA publishing rights.

EA wouldn't be willing to do an exclusive type deal - it's proven that games make more money as multi-platforms than as exclusives. Hence third party exclusive support is dying. And given EA cares about money more than anything, it's not surprising they would port it over.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]Doesnt matter if EA is EA, MS still had a deal with Bioware before EA bought them out which still stands

You arent being realistic, you just don't understand how the legal system works

Lcamm

There is no evidence of a deal. MS gave away the publishing rights.

Do you even think when you talk? This is MS we are talking about, they arent stupid and they worked out a deal with EA

They also had exclusivity before EA bought Bioware which still stands

Like I said before when one company buys another they inherit EVERYTHING, Including debts, contracts and other deals, and that includes whatever deal MS had with Bioware

Even if it was just for publishing rights, Again its only fair to assume MS worked out something with EA prior to handing over the Publishing rights

Exclusivity cannot possibly stand when the game is on the PC. Also, Bioshock.

By your logic, Microsoft probably had some special exclusive deal with 2K and Bioshock. I mean, there's no way that's coming to PS3, right?

People were using the same arguments to claim that there was no way in hell Bioshock was going to the PS3.

You don't know Microsoft had a special exclusive deal, and EA isn't going to be willing to make Mass Effect 2 exclusive because Microsoft has only exclusive rights to publishing the first one - which they by the way gave to EA anyways.

Angstx-

[QUOTE="Angstx-"]

By your logic, Microsoft probably had some special exclusive deal with 2K and Bioshock. I mean, there's no way that's coming to PS3, right?

People were using the same arguments to claim that there was no way in hell Bioshock was going to the PS3.

You don't know Microsoft had a special exclusive deal, and EA isn't going to be willing to make Mass Effect 2 exclusive because Microsoft has only exclusive rights to publishing the first one - which they by the way gave to EA anyways.

Lcamm

Give me proof there was an exclusive deal for an entire trilogy.

EA and Microsoft had a settlement, one which gave EA publishing rights. Any other things that might have been agreed on are unknown if they even exist. Quit stating speculation as fact.

[QUOTE="Angstx-"]

Neither did they have any rights towards Mass Effect aside from publishing rights.

Which they no longer own.

Is your skull that thick?

Lcamm

If they had publishing rights, why was the PC version ported published by EA? What don't you get?

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Angstx-"]

Neither did they have any rights towards Mass Effect aside from publishing rights.

Which they no longer own.

Is your skull that thick?

Angstx-

If they had publishing rights, why was the PC version ported published by EA? What don't you get?

[QUOTE="Angstx-"]

By your logic, Microsoft probably had some special exclusive deal with 2K and Bioshock. I mean, there's no way that's coming to PS3, right?

People were using the same arguments to claim that there was no way in hell Bioshock was going to the PS3.

You don't know Microsoft had a special exclusive deal, and EA isn't going to be willing to make Mass Effect 2 exclusive because Microsoft has only exclusive rights to publishing the first one - which they by the way gave to EA anyways.

Lcamm

Really, Bioshock was just nice to Microsoft and decided to make them an exclusive game?

Get real. Microsoft paid them for exclusivity.

[QUOTE="Angstx-"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]Ok seriously you make about as much sense as a fish with wings, you make no sense MS had publishing rights to ME They had exclusive rights to the game before EA bought out Bioware Is your skull that thick? Do you just say whatever random thing comes to mind? Lcamm

If they had publishing rights, why was the PC version ported published by EA? What don't you get?

Says who?

Microsoft didn't just give it away, they sold it, probably for a lot of money. Everything. Bioware held the rights to the game, Microsoft simply had a publishing deal. When EA bought Bioware, the two met and EA got full rights to the game.

If EA wants to port it, they will. Whether not they will remains to be seen, but knowing EA there is a good chance it will.

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Angstx-"]

By your logic, Microsoft probably had some special exclusive deal with 2K and Bioshock. I mean, there's no way that's coming to PS3, right?

People were using the same arguments to claim that there was no way in hell Bioshock was going to the PS3.

You don't know Microsoft had a special exclusive deal, and EA isn't going to be willing to make Mass Effect 2 exclusive because Microsoft has only exclusive rights to publishing the first one - which they by the way gave to EA anyways.

Angstx-

Really, Bioshock was just nice to Microsoft and decided to make them an exclusive game?

Get real. Microsoft paid them for exclusivity.

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Angstx-"]

If they had publishing rights, why was the PC version ported published by EA? What don't you get?

Angstx-

Says who?

Microsoft didn't just give it away, they sold it, probably for a lot of money. Everything. Bioware held the rights to the game, Microsoft simply had a publishing deal. When EA bought Bioware, the two met and EA got full rights to the game.

If EA wants to port it, they will. Whether not they will remains to be seen, but knowing EA there is a good chance it will.

[QUOTE="Angstx-"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]Because MS gave EA the publishing rights which brings me to my next point That they probably didnt just give them the publishing rights just like that They probably made a deal for exclusivity in exchange for the publishing rightsLcamm

Says who?

Microsoft didn't just give it away, they sold it, probably for a lot of money. Everything. Bioware held the rights to the game, Microsoft simply had a publishing deal. When EA bought Bioware, the two met and EA got full rights to the game.

If EA wants to port it, they will. Whether not they will remains to be seen, but knowing EA there is a good chance it will.

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=17827

There, EA owns the IP to Mass Effect.

Deal with it, I know it hurts to know another precious 360 exclusive is going to the PS3, but prepare for it.

[QUOTE="Angstx-"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]MS never had any deal with 2K with Bioshock at all They paid for ME development, they had exclusive rights to the game, so when EA buys Bioware they take everything with it including debt, deals and contracts which include MS deal with Bioware for the entire trilogy Lcamm

Really, Bioshock was just nice to Microsoft and decided to make them an exclusive game?

Get real. Microsoft paid them for exclusivity.

Wrong, there was PS3 code that was programmed for Bioshock which was scrapped when Bioshock became an exclusive. It was intended for PS3 when it was developed.

MS already had a deal with Bioware

They gave EA the publishing rights but only in exchange for the series to be exclusive to the 360 and PC

Mass effect wont ever be on the ps3

sorry cows:(

[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Angstx-"]

Says who?

Microsoft didn't just give it away, they sold it, probably for a lot of money. Everything. Bioware held the rights to the game, Microsoft simply had a publishing deal. When EA bought Bioware, the two met and EA got full rights to the game.

If EA wants to port it, they will. Whether not they will remains to be seen, but knowing EA there is a good chance it will.

Angstx-

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=17827

There, EA owns the IP to Mass Effect.

Deal with it, I know it hurts to know another precious 360 exclusive is going to the PS3, but prepare for it.

[QUOTE="Angstx-"][QUOTE="Lcamm"]Again EA cant port the game just like that, MS has rights to it, they have had rights to it since they paid for the games development and since it was announced back a few years ago MS has dibs on the series BeerChuggerx

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=17827

There, EA owns the IP to Mass Effect.

Deal with it, I know it hurts to know another precious 360 exclusive is going to the PS3, but prepare for it.

[QUOTE="BeerChuggerx"][QUOTE="Angstx-"] Holy. ****. Did you ignore my entire damn post? They don't have the rights to it. Period. Bioware does. They had -publishing- rights. They sold those to EA in a settlement deal after EA ate up Bioware. Hence the PC port. We'll see in March, and if it is indeed confirmed, I will you remember this.

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=17827

There, EA owns the IP to Mass Effect.

Deal with it, I know it hurts to know another precious 360 exclusive is going to the PS3, but prepare for it.

nervmeister

There is no evidence of a deal. MS gave away the publishing rights.Silverbond

Even though Bioware has confirmed 3 times that ME2 will remain PC/360 only ?

And you are actually wrong, MS allowed EA to publish the game on PC, they do have a deal, otherwise why did they not release it on PS3 as well ? Or announce it at least ?

As with most 360 games, the deal is involving MS systems, most games go to 360, then are allowed to PC, and PC only, that isexactly the case with ME

Looks like Mass Effect and it's sequels are likely coming to PS3 given EA bought up Bioware.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4465.html

And the links the OP used to claim that Mass Effect and Kingdom Under Fire II aren't coming to PS3 are old as hell.

Angstx-

Sorry, but Mass Effect 2 has been confirmed PC/360 only noumerous times, AFTER EA bought Bioware, so it is just never happening

Also about KUF2, the article is a few months back, how is it ... old ? BTW here is a brand new one

http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=59071

'Kingdom Under Fire II' (X360/PC) Reveals New Hero

Kingdom Under Fire II is aiming for 2009/2010 release and will be available worldwide on both PC Online and X360.

Those games are confirmed many times PC/360 only, so rumors about PS3 versions are just fiction