XBOX360 - Waste of Money

This topic is a waste of bandwidth :P

Your going to get ate up, the new version of 360 has most ofthose features.

hard_body79

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

wait... no dolby digital through HDMI? what the hell are you talking about?

Aqueas

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937899

Im not going to buy a new 360. Will not do it.Aqueas

I'm with ya. I would've stupidy bought a new slim if it had come out with a $150 price tag, but since M$ greedily marked it at $300 they actually did me a favor. No way I buy a slim now, especially since Fable 3 is coming out for PC...

What is that Persistantthug dude on about, anyway? How is the fact that he's from Missouri relevant to the argument?Arbiterisl33t69

I'm from missouri is a broad statement made by Willard duncan Vandivar. I'm from Missouri you'll have to show me. It basically entails this part of his speech in 1899.

"""I come from a country that raises corn and cotton, cockleburs and Democrats, and frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. I'm from Missouri, and you have got to show me."""

So basically thug is trying to use a saying that he doesn't follow him self, using his own frothy and I would say what he believes eloquent speeches he still has yet to prove any thing in quite a few of his posts never giving definitive proof, and completely ignoring counter arguments with proof given against him.

*all researched with google and wikipedia with just a few words*

Should Have Bought a PS3:

XBOX360

No Wireless - $99.99 for an adapter (PS3 has Built in WIFI)

XBOXLive Monthly Fee (PS3's service is Free)

No Dolby Digital Through HDMI ($49.99 for adapter + $19.99 for Optical Cable | PS3 routes Digital Audio through one single HDMI)

* Bought XBOX a year ago, not the elite version.

Aqueas

PS3.

No backwords compatibility.

No Headsets included with PS3.

No HDMI cable included with PS3.

360 elite have an HDMI port :|

there is the new 360 slim, it has 4 usb ports, HDMI, 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-fi.

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

Should Have Bought a PS3:

XBOX360

No Wireless - $99.99 for an adapter (PS3 has Built in WIFI)

XBOXLive Monthly Fee (PS3's service is Free)

No Dolby Digital Through HDMI ($49.99 for adapter + $19.99 for Optical Cable | PS3 routes Digital Audio through one single HDMI)

* Bought XBOX a year ago, not the elite version.

HAZE-Unit

PS3.

No backwordscompatibility.

No Headsets included with PS3.

No HDMI cable included with PS3.

360 elite have an HDMI port :|

there is the new 360 slim, it has 4 usb ports, HDMI, 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-fi.

Another poor guy...victim of M$'s lies and marketing. Thanks for sharing this with us, I hope people will seriously reconsider a 360 purchase and make the right decision by not buying it.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

Should Have Bought a PS3:

XBOX360

No Wireless - $99.99 for an adapter (PS3 has Built in WIFI)

XBOXLive Monthly Fee (PS3's service is Free)

No Dolby Digital Through HDMI ($49.99 for adapter + $19.99 for Optical Cable | PS3 routes Digital Audio through one single HDMI)

* Bought XBOX a year ago, not the elite version.

WilliamRLBaker

PS3.

No backwordscompatibility.

No Headsets included with PS3.

No HDMI cable included with PS3.

360 elite have an HDMI port :|

there is the new 360 slim, it has 4 usb ports, HDMI, 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-fi.

I just missed it then because I remember there were 2 front and 2 from the back, 3 in the back then?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

PS3.

No backwordscompatibility.

No Headsets included with PS3.

No HDMI cable included with PS3.

360 elite have an HDMI port :|

there is the new 360 slim, it has 4 usb ports, HDMI, 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-fi.

HAZE-Unit

I just missed it then because I remember there were 2 front and 2 from the back, 3 in the back then?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

Oh yes sir,

I did say that, it was a "truce" of sorts.

I still do believe it, and I know I'm right in principle since XBOX 360 continues to falter with its 2010 retail exclusives (sub HD), whereas PS3 does not.

If the 360 has equivalent power, then I expect to see it. If it can't show it, then.....well, the debate is pretty much over, I think.

To coin the old saying/phrase....I'm from Missouri. ;)

Persistantthug

Please be sure to PM me when those games come out.

I can't wait. ;)

Honestly,

You bring up a good point.

I certainly didn't mean to go off topic, but a few individuals wanted my word/take on a couple topic-situations of the past. I try to keep my manners and stay polite as much as possible, and part of that "good mannerism" if you will, is to try and respond to people and not leave them hanging.

I suppose not all of my good mannerisms are not appreciated by everyone, I guess.

I'll try and modify my ideals a bit and try to stay on the OP's topic.

Thank you for reminding me of that, sir. :)

Persistantthug

I severly lol'd @ TC's fanboyism.

On-Topic: 360 has the best online service, and that was a sell....and LOLOLOL @ $100 wifi adapter...look at the news lately?

Modern_Unit

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

I severly lol'd @ TC's fanboyism.

On-Topic: 360 has the best online service, and that was a sell....and LOLOLOL @ $100 wifi adapter...look at the news lately?

Respawn-d

I see damage control.

being that the new 360 allows for many of these things to be avoided....:|

yeah, damage control.

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

I severly lol'd @ TC's fanboyism.

On-Topic: 360 has the best online service, and that was a sell....and LOLOLOL @ $100 wifi adapter...look at the news lately?

WilliamRLBaker

Should Have Bought a PS3:

XBOX360

No Wireless - $99.99 for an adapter (PS3 has Built in WIFI)

XBOXLive Monthly Fee (PS3's service is Free)

No Dolby Digital Through HDMI ($49.99 for adapter + $19.99 for Optical Cable | PS3 routes Digital Audio through one single HDMI)

* Bought XBOX a year ago, not the elite version.

Aqueas

A year ago the cheapest PS3 was $400 so how exactly was that cheaper.. :| And none of the PS3 sku's support BC while every 360 with a HDD does.. If you want to get nitpicky..

Your going to get ate up, the new version of 360 has most ofthose features.

Ah but what an entertaining and fun "waste of money"!

Your going to get ate up, the new version of 360 has most ofthose features.

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

Your going to get ate up, the new version of 360 has most ofthose features.

Aqueas

Whats this I see, could it be an optical out port without the need for an adaptor on the new slims???

[QUOTE="Aqueas"][QUOTE="hard_body79"]

Your going to get ate up, the new version of 360 has most ofthose features.

topgunmv

Whts this I see, could it be an optical out port without the need for an adaptor on the new slims???

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

Should Have Bought a PS3:

XBOX360

No Wireless - $99.99 for an adapter (PS3 has Built in WIFI)

XBOXLive Monthly Fee (PS3's service is Free)

No Dolby Digital Through HDMI ($49.99 for adapter + $19.99 for Optical Cable | PS3 routes Digital Audio through one single HDMI)

* Bought XBOX a year ago, not the elite version.

HAZE-Unit

PS3.

No backwords compatibility.

No Headsets included with PS3.

No HDMI cable included with PS3.

360 elite have an HDMI port :|

there is the new 360 slim, it has 4 usb ports, HDMI, 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-fi.

Ahh....now we're back on topic.

Please allow me the honor, sir:

PS3.

No backwords compatibility. All PS3's have backwards compatibility....and from what I understand XBOX 360 B/C isn't very effective....so I heard.

No Headsets included with PS3. You're right....however PS3's allow one the option of using ANY bluetooth headset, and ANY USB headset as well.

No HDMI cable included with PS3. PS3's do have HDMI cables now. I'm possitive XBOX 360's have no HDMI cables included anymore, for quite a while in fact.

Edit in bonus:

PS3 has HDMI 1.3 whereas XBOX 360 has the older HDMI 1.2

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

Should Have Bought a PS3:

XBOX360

No Wireless - $99.99 for an adapter (PS3 has Built in WIFI)

XBOXLive Monthly Fee (PS3's service is Free)

No Dolby Digital Through HDMI ($49.99 for adapter + $19.99 for Optical Cable | PS3 routes Digital Audio through one single HDMI)

* Bought XBOX a year ago, not the elite version.

Persistantthug

PS3.

No backwords compatibility.

No Headsets included with PS3.

No HDMI cable included with PS3.

360 elite have an HDMI port :|

there is the new 360 slim, it has 4 usb ports, HDMI, 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-fi.

Ahh....now we're back on topic.

Please allow me the honor:

PS3.

No backwords compatibility. All PS3's have backwards compatibility....and from what I understand XBOX 360 B/C isn't very effective....so I heard.

No Headsets included with PS3. You're right....exept, that PS3's allow one the option of using ANY bluetooth headset, and ANY USB headset as well.

No HDMI cable included with PS3. PS3's do have HDMI cables now. I'm possitive XBOX 360's have no cables included anymore, for quite a while now.

Um all ps3's have ps1 bc, but they canabalized the ps2 BC for no real reason at all. the ps3 can use MOST bluetooth headsets there are infact some the very cheapest that will not work, and it cannot use ANY usb headset it can use some...why would any one want to use a usb headset with a cable that probably keeps you within 3 feet of the system? And no ps3 does not have hdmi cable included.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

Should Have Bought a PS3:

XBOX360

No Wireless - $99.99 for an adapter (PS3 has Built in WIFI)

XBOXLive Monthly Fee (PS3's service is Free)

No Dolby Digital Through HDMI ($49.99 for adapter + $19.99 for Optical Cable | PS3 routes Digital Audio through one single HDMI)

* Bought XBOX a year ago, not the elite version.

Persistantthug

PS3.

No backwords compatibility.

No Headsets included with PS3.

No HDMI cable included with PS3.

360 elite have an HDMI port :|

there is the new 360 slim, it has 4 usb ports, HDMI, 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-fi.

Ahh....now we're back on topic.

Please allow me the honor:

PS3.

No backwords compatibility. All PS3's have backwards compatibility....and from what I understand XBOX 360 B/C isn't very effective....so I heard.

No Headsets included with PS3. You're right....exept, that PS3's allow one the option of using ANY bluetooth headset, and ANY USB headset as well.

No HDMI cable included with PS3. PS3's do have HDMI cables now. I'm possitive XBOX 360's have no cables included anymore, for quite a while now.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Aqueas"] And then you have another HDMI cable routed to your TV?savagetwinkie

yes.

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

Ahh....now we're back on topic.

Please allow me the honor, sir:

PS3.

No backwords compatibility. All PS3's have backwards compatibility....and from what I understand XBOX 360 B/C isn't very effective....so I heard.

No Headsets included with PS3. You're right....however PS3's allow one the option of using ANY bluetooth headset, and ANY USB headset as well.

No HDMI cable included with PS3. PS3's do have HDMI cables now. I'm possitive XBOX 360's have no HDMI cables included anymore, for quite a while in fact.

Persistantthug

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

yes.

Aqueas

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

The article is from before an xbox was reased with hdmi and some general google searches seems people can get dolby digital 5.1 through hdmi on their xboxs.

if your hooking it up to your tv, the problem is that your tv won't pass through the signal, most tv's don't do this which is why you hook it directly up to the reciever to get 5.1.

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]Ahh....now we're back on topic.

Please allow me the honor, sir:

PS3.

No backwords compatibility. All PS3's have backwards compatibility....and from what I understand XBOX 360 B/C isn't very effective....so I heard.

No Headsets included with PS3. You're right....however PS3's allow one the option of using ANY bluetooth headset, and ANY USB headset as well.

No HDMI cable included with PS3. PS3's do have HDMI cables now. I'm possitive XBOX 360's have no HDMI cables included anymore, for quite a while in fact.

clone01

colored font is like talking loudly.

people talk loud when they want to sound smart.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

yes.

Aqueas

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

Do you know what PCM audio is?

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]Ahh....now we're back on topic.

Please allow me the honor, sir:

PS3.

No backwords compatibility. All PS3's have backwards compatibility....and from what I understand XBOX 360 B/C isn't very effective....so I heard.

No Headsets included with PS3. You're right....however PS3's allow one the option of using ANY bluetooth headset, and ANY USB headset as well.

No HDMI cable included with PS3. PS3's do have HDMI cables now. I'm possitive XBOX 360's have no HDMI cables included anymore, for quite a while in fact.

HavocV3

colored font is like talking loudly.

people talk loud when they want to sound smart.

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

PS3.

No backwords compatibility.

No Headsets included with PS3.

No HDMI cable included with PS3.

360 elite have an HDMI port :|

there is the new 360 slim, it has 4 usb ports, HDMI, 250GB HDD, built-in Wi-fi.

savagetwinkie

Ahh....now we're back on topic.

Please allow me the honor:

PS3.

No backwords compatibility. All PS3's have backwards compatibility....and from what I understand XBOX 360 B/C isn't very effective....so I heard.

No Headsets included with PS3. You're right....exept, that PS3's allow one the option of using ANY bluetooth headset, and ANY USB headset as well.

No HDMI cable included with PS3. PS3's do have HDMI cables now. I'm possitive XBOX 360's have no cables included anymore, for quite a while now.

Once again sir,

-PS3's have HDMI cables now. Was one of the first things Sony did when PS3's recently stopped selling at a loss....Part of Sony's annual value bonus

-All PS3's have backwards compatibility...not necessarily PS2 B/C (alot of them do however), but ALL PS3's have B/C

-Bluetooth headsets are as low as $5 at FRY'S ELECTRONICS. I bought my own (Motorola 680 gold) for $30 1 1/2 years ago. I've seen them go retail for $20. I recommend it if you're looking, but I think the 690 is what's current now.

-Interesting that you mention sound, because I found this interesting....and to be honest, I'm not surprised that the sound quality isn't so great when you use 75 cent'ish (maybe less) headsets....seriously. Um...since there might be some not so friendly language (I'm not sure), I better not link the vid....but it is under SENSITIVE.......his name is Louie92801

Bluetooth headsets are as low as $5 at FRY'S ELECTRONICS. I bought my own (Motorola 680 gold) for $30 1 1/2 years ago. I've seen them go retail for $20. I recommend it if you're looking, but I think the 690 is what's current now.

Interesting that you mention sound, because I found this interesting....and to be honest, I'm not surprised that the sound quality isn't so great when you use 75'ish (maybe less) headsets....seriously. Um...since there might be some not so friendly language (I'm not sure), I better not link the vid....but it is under SENSITIVE.......his name is Louie92801

Persistantthug

and bluetooth sounds awful. i'll take the $20 stock xbl headset over them any day. and i've had experience with both, as i own and use both a 360 and PS3. you don't however. this honestly makes me question your objectivity in the matter.

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] lol, does he not understand how dolby + recievers worksavagetwinkie

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

The article is from before an xbox was reased with hdmi and some general google searches seems people can get dolby digital 5.1 through hdmi on their xboxs.

if your hooking it up to your tv, the problem is that your tv won't pass through the signal, most tv's don't do this which is why you hook it directly up to the reciever to get 5.1.

Why not? It works fine with my roommates PS3. He has HDMI to the TV - Optical out to the reciever. My XBOX has HDMI to the TV and Optical to the Receiver - same as PS3 set up, yet PS3 gets Dolby Digital and my XBOX gets ProLogic. I've set the XBOX to Dolby Digital 5.1 in the settings.

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] lol, does he not understand how dolby + recievers worktopgunmv

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

Do you know what PCM audio is?

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

Aqueas

The article is from before an xbox was reased with hdmi and some general google searches seems people can get dolby digital 5.1 through hdmi on their xboxs.

if your hooking it up to your tv, the problem is that your tv won't pass through the signal, most tv's don't do this which is why you hook it directly up to the reciever to get 5.1.

Why not? It works fine with my roommates PS3. He has HDMI to the TV - Optical out to the reciever. My XBOX has HDMI to the TV and Optical to the Receiver - same as PS3 set up, yet PS3 gets Dolby Digital and my XBOX gets ProLogic. I've set the XBOX to Dolby Digital 5.1 in the settings.

So another question would be why does my roommates PS3 Digital Audio go through the TV and then to the Recevier unscathed, while my XBOX's is dumped down to ProLogic? Again, set up is the same for both Units. The TV is set to output Digital 5.1, so is my XBOX. PS3 gets digital, XBOX does not. I would have to buy another HDMI Cable if routing it through the Reciever first works. The point I've been trying to make, is for some reason the XBOX cannot deliver a signal to the TV and then the receiver, it's either blocked or not being transmitted, making it to where you have to buy extra XBOX stuff, not because they were too dumb to think of a better solution, but because they know they can get you to buy extra add ons.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

savagetwinkie

Do you know what PCM audio is?

Optical worked for me when I had a crap TV, HDMI Digital Audio does not work with my Vizio - PS3 HMDI does. Why? Boggles me.

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

The article is from before an xbox was reased with hdmi and some general google searches seems people can get dolby digital 5.1 through hdmi on their xboxs.

if your hooking it up to your tv, the problem is that your tv won't pass through the signal, most tv's don't do this which is why you hook it directly up to the reciever to get 5.1.

savagetwinkie

Why not? It works fine with my roommates PS3. He has HDMI to the TV - Optical out to the reciever. My XBOX has HDMI to the TV and Optical to the Receiver - same as PS3 set up, yet PS3 gets Dolby Digital and my XBOX gets ProLogic. I've set the XBOX to Dolby Digital 5.1 in the settings.

Yeah, but why does the PS3 signal make it through (same exact set up) and the XBOX360 signal not?

Not to me. Excellent system.

A ps3 does more and it's still cheaper than the 360. Ps3=wincoolkid93

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

yes.

Aqueas

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

how it works for me is i have an AV receiver like i said.... AV stands for audio and video. All my video and all my audio goes straight into my AV receiver.... and i run 1 hdmi cable from my receiver to my tv. My AV reciever also has different lights on the front that tells the type of audio that its receiving at any given moment... and the dolby digital surround lights up when i turn my xbox on. So the xbox is definitely outputting dolby digital over HDMI... if you are having a problem... either you hooked crap up wrong or there is something wrong with your tv.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Do you know what PCM audio is?

Aqueas

Optical worked for me when I had a crap TV, HDMI Digital Audio does not work with my Vizio - PS3 HMDI does. Why? Boggles me.

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] lol, does he not understand how dolby + recievers workmarkinthedark

No, I understand completely how that stuff works. I have mine routed to my TV. The TV is outputting it to my receiver with an Optical Cable. The fact is, XBOX360 does not send a digital audio signal through HDMI alone - you have to use an Optical Cable, and you can't use both at the same time without an adapter. It doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for 99% of the world. How it works for him, Im not sure - my guess it he's getting Dolby Pro Logic, and not Dolby Digital, they are different. The new one "slim" "elite" doesn't do it either.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/02/xbox_360_elite_hdmi_output_details_revealed

"it has been revealed that theXbox 360 Elitewill not output multi-channel PCM audio overHDMIwhich is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems...The HDMI audio output will still not be fully functional as many users hoped. The Elite will not output uncompressed multi-channel audio...Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI."

I'll look for a link describing the same problem with the brand new XBOX. 99% sure it does not output Dolby Digital through the HDMI Port.

how it works for me is i have an AV receiver like i said.... AV stands for audio and video. All my video and all my audio goes straight into my AV receiver.... and i run 1 hdmi cable from my receiver to my tv. My AV reciever also has different lights on the front that tells the type of audio that its receiving at any given moment... and the dolby digital surround lights up when i turn my xbox on. So the xbox is definitely outputting dolby digital over HDMI... if you are having a problem... either you hooked crap up wrong or there is something wrong with your tv.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Aqueas"]

Why not? It works fine with my roommates PS3. He has HDMI to the TV - Optical out to the reciever. My XBOX has HDMI to the TV and Optical to the Receiver - same as PS3 set up, yet PS3 gets Dolby Digital and my XBOX gets ProLogic. I've set the XBOX to Dolby Digital 5.1 in the settings.

Aqueas

Yeah, but why does the PS3 signal make it through (same exact set up) and the XBOX360 signal not?

how do you know it is...? try switching the inputs with the ps3 or something.

[QUOTE="Aqueas"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] yah and some google searches show that the xbox 360 can handle pcm 5.1 through hdmi, funny part is it can't through optical.WilliamRLBaker

Optical worked for me when I had a crap TV, HDMI Digital Audio does not work with my Vizio - PS3 HMDI does. Why? Boggles me.

I never said Optical didnt work. It does. I want both Digital Picture and Digital Sound to go to the TV, then to the receiver. It works with my roommates PS3, but not my XBOX, so I assume, and have read elsewhere that the XBOX is not outputting through HDMI. Maybe it is and the TV is blocking it, but why or how would it block an XBOX signal and not a PS3 signal? PS3 grts all 5 channels to the receiver, XBOX gets 2.