Xenoblade sells 30k in the EU, makes US release more unlikely.

Well…is this the final blow to American RPG fans?

Nintendo Of America's President Reggie Fils-Amie stated that Xenoblade Chronicles would come to the US only if it performed well critically and in terms of sales in Europe. It ticked the first box – as the game currently has a fantastic 91/100 on Metacritic, with major gaming sites like IGN giving the game an excellent score of 9/10. However, the games seems to be under-performing on the sales aspect, which, we are sure Nintendo cares about more. Despite topping pre-order charts on several online retailers like Amazon, the game managed to sell a respectable, but not very impressive, 30k units in it's first week in Europe.

This figure is only the first week – sales could increase in the second, or could remain at this level for months to come which would accumulate to high amounts – however this is unlikely.

To make a comparison to similar-ish games for Wii in Europe, Final Fantasy The Crystal Chronicles: Echoes sold just 12k in it's first week (so Xenoblade out-performed this), however, Monster Hunter 3 sold 74k in Europe in its first week – despite being a franchise that has traditionally sold terribly outside of Japan.

So, whilst hope is not totally diminished, we remain sceptical about Xenoblade Chronicles being shipped over to the US, even though NOA would likely have very low costs as voices were already translated for the UK version.

http://maxnintendo.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/xenoblade-chronicles-european-sales-revealed-what-are-the-chances-of-it-coming-to-the-us/

This is what happens when you release a core game on the wii. 360/PS3 would have been at least 100k units in EU and more in the US.

This goes to show that there isn't much of a hardcore audience with the Wii.

That's too bad. The wii scene is starting to die though.

This is what happens when you release a core game on the wii. 360/PS3 would have been at least 100k units in EU and more in the US.

GD1551

Except it's a franchise belonging to Nintendo, so no dice there.

Still, if it doesn't make it across the Atlantic, there's always the option to import. I think the PS3/360 fanboys are just seething that they won't see a release on their console of preference.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

This is what happens when you release a core game on the wii. 360/PS3 would have been at least 100k units in EU and more in the US.

mmmwksil

Except it's a franchise belonging to Nintendo, so no dice there.

Still, if it doesn't make it across the Atlantic, there's always the option to import. I think the PS3/360 fanboys are just seething that they won't see a release on their console of preference.

I never wanted it on the HD twins I was merely saying it would have sold more on them.

That's too bad. The wii scene is starting to die though.

AmayaPapaya

Correct. This game would NOT HAVE SOLD ANY MORE UNITS if released on the PS3 or 360 in Europe.

The fact of the matter is that, with 5 year old hardware and a worldwide recession, games like this just don't sell anymore.

It's time to move on with bigger and better consoles that will re-ignite consumers.

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

This is what happens when you release a core game on the wii. 360/PS3 would have been at least 100k units in EU and more in the US.

GD1551

Except it's a franchise belonging to Nintendo, so no dice there.

Still, if it doesn't make it across the Atlantic, there's always the option to import. I think the PS3/360 fanboys are just seething that they won't see a release on their console of preference.

I never wanted it on the HD twins I was merely saying it would have sold more on them.

Hypothetical scenario. I don't deal in them unless it's for the sake of lulz.

should of been a PS3 game... Sony has been home to JRPGs since PS1 .... it serves devs right as they have forgotten and now are paying the price for it. Wii core audience is casuals who don't buy games... we all know this.Midnightshade29

Monolith is Nintendo owned.

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

That's too bad. The wii scene is starting to die though.

peterw007

Correct. This game would NOT HAVE SOLD ANY MORE UNITS if released on the PS3 or 360 in Europe.

The fact of the matter is that, with 5 year old hardware and a worldwide recession, games like this just don't sell anymore.

It's time to move on with bigger and better consoles that will re-ignite consumers.

If it isnt a SE or Tales Team game its hard to get any real sales. a shame....PC360Wii

Haha, you're saying it like Tales games actually sell in the west.

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]should of been a PS3 game... Sony has been home to JRPGs since PS1 .... it serves devs right as they have forgotten and now are paying the price for it. Wii core audience is casuals who don't buy games... we all know this.minh800

Monolith is Nintendo owned.

Again: the fact that Nintendo localized this game into English trumps anything else that might happen. If the game underperformed in EU, that just makes it more likely that they'll try for more sales in NA.

The link provided in topic creator's post is of someones Wordpress and has no external source with sales data -- and I can't find the source online after a Google Search.

Edit: The only place that has that 30,000 units number is VGChartz.

yeah... lets launch $400+ consoles in a world-wide recession (your words...) that makes perfect sense! The unemployed will buy consoles instead of food or gas to get to work..screw the property taxes we can go put the house up for foreclosure and live in a shelter with our hd tv and next gen console..Midnightshade29

That's how the industry works, man.

5-6 year console life and then games stop selling, so they bring out another console to invigorate sales of 3rd-party titles.

360 (Kinect) = 2010

Wii U = 2012

PS4 = 2013

It's no surprise that Xenoblade sold horribly--it's a new, RPG franchise on a dead console.

Well, I was one of those 30,000. So I did my part.BlackoutGunshot

The link provided in topic creator's post is of someones Wordpress and has no external source with sales data -- and I can't find the source online after a Google Search.

Edit: The only place that has that 30,000 units number is VGChartz.

Haziqonfire

Yeah is source is Vgchartz all the other games he listed matches up. The game is sold out everywhere online so it probbly had limited units. http://www.gamestracker.com/buy-xenoblade-chronicles-compare-prices-wii.htm

This proves Nintendo was right. That, big surprise, their business analysts know what they are talking about (though I wonder why people questioned them given how profitable nintendo has been this generation) It is not like Nintendo was trying to screw people over. They just made a business decision...that is what this is to them, a business. People here (on GS) forget just what a minority/small % of sales they are I would have liked to have been able to play it, but their choice was expected and understandablerawsavon

Not really. There's a far bigger install base in NA than in EU. Plus, if you look at the software sales, NA usually buys the most Nintendo games (first party). They could probably have sold 200000 easily with cheap means of marketing (something Atlus or Xseed would do). That would make them a decent profit. Nothing on the level of Mario Kart but that shouldn't matter. Profit is profit and NoA doesn't have much on its plate.

Nintendo wasted money making this game. They know their system is a very casual populated console. It was destined to fail in EU or NA if they had released it here.

POOORT IIIITTTTT!exiledsnake

Nintendo owns the developer and the IP.

those are horrible sales...oh well...lets see if it sells on wiiU lol

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]This proves Nintendo was right. That, big surprise, their business analysts know what they are talking about (though I wonder why people questioned them given how profitable nintendo has been this generation) It is not like Nintendo was trying to screw people over. They just made a business decision...that is what this is to them, a business. People here (on GS) forget just what a minority/small % of sales they are I would have liked to have been able to play it, but their choice was expected and understandableminh800

Not really. There's a far bigger install base in NA than in EU. Plus, if you look at the software sales, NA usually buys the most Nintendo games (first party). They could probably have sold 200000 easily with cheap means of marketing (something Atlus or Xseed would do). That would make them a decent profit. Nothing on the level of Mario Kart but that shouldn't matter. Profit is profit and NoA doesn't have much on its plate.

Thanks for nothing EU. :P

Again: the fact that Nintendo localized this game into English trumps anything else that might happen. If the game underperformed in EU, that just makes it more likely that they'll try for more sales in NA.

Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]This proves Nintendo was right. That, big surprise, their business analysts know what they are talking about (though I wonder why people questioned them given how profitable nintendo has been this generation) It is not like Nintendo was trying to screw people over. They just made a business decision...that is what this is to them, a business. People here (on GS) forget just what a minority/small % of sales they are I would have liked to have been able to play it, but their choice was expected and understandablerawsavon

Not really. There's a far bigger install base in NA than in EU. Plus, if you look at the software sales, NA usually buys the most Nintendo games (first party). They could probably have sold 200000 easily with cheap means of marketing (something Atlus or Xseed would do). That would make them a decent profit. Nothing on the level of Mario Kart but that shouldn't matter. Profit is profit and NoA doesn't have much on its plate.

1. Yeah, businesses do it all the time. Sony of America didn't localize Demon's Souls because they thought it wouldn't be profitable enough. They were wrong. 2. Going by my example with SoA, yes, business analysts can be very wrong at judging what will sell and what won't. The loss wouldn't really be that much if one occured. The work to localize it has already been finished so most of the money used would be towards printing and distributing.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Again: the fact that Nintendo localized this game into English trumps anything else that might happen. If the game underperformed in EU, that just makes it more likely that they'll try for more sales in NA.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="minh800"]

Not really. There's a far bigger install base in NA than in EU. Plus, if you look at the software sales, NA usually buys the most Nintendo games (first party). They could probably have sold 200000 easily with cheap means of marketing (something Atlus or Xseed would do). That would make them a decent profit. Nothing on the level of Mario Kart but that shouldn't matter. Profit is profit and NoA doesn't have much on its plate.

minh800

1. Yeah, businesses do it all the time. Sony of America didn't localize Demon's Souls because they thought it wouldn't be profitable enough. They were wrong. 2. Going by my example with SoA, yes, business analysts can be very wrong at judging what will sell and what won't. The loss wouldn't really be that much if one occured. The work to localize it has already been finished so most of the money used would be towards printing and distributing.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Again: the fact that Nintendo localized this game into English trumps anything else that might happen. If the game underperformed in EU, that just makes it more likely that they'll try for more sales in NA.

rawsavon

Yay! Let's only sell FPS clones to the NA market because that's the only genre that will sell a bundle and make us filthy rich! If that's the case the gaming industry has turned into a steaming pile of crap.

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Honest couple questions to follow: Do you think: 1. That nintendo would not do something that they thought would be profitable 2. That nintendo's business analysts/people in charge of forecasts are not better at their jobs/more informed that we are I believe that Nintendo will do what they think will make them the most money and that they are better at 'their job'/more informed than we are ...their only goal is to make money and their only loyalty is to their stockholders (same with all businesses) You also have to consider that a 'decent' profit may not be worth the risk of a loss based on their current models. -if I told you that you could make $25 but there is also a risk of 33% of losing $15...you will have to factor that in to your business strategy (obvious I just pulled those numbers out of my ass to give an illustration) You also have to keep in mind that websites like GS make up a very, very small % of gamersrawsavon

1. Yeah, businesses do it all the time. Sony of America didn't localize Demon's Souls because they thought it wouldn't be profitable enough. They were wrong. 2. Going by my example with SoA, yes, business analysts can be very wrong at judging what will sell and what won't. The loss wouldn't really be that much if one occured. The work to localize it has already been finished so most of the money used would be towards printing and distributing.

Oh, but it does matter. Companies are only concerned with money and being wrong in this case would mean that they lost out on profits. Like I said, there are many cheap ways to advertise your games. If there weren't, smaller publishers wouldn't find sales or even exist.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]This is all that needs to be said about the matter. /thread

Bigboi500

Yay! Let's only sell FPS clones to the NA market because that's the only genre that will sell a bundle and make us filthy rich! If that's the case the gaming industry has turned into a steaming pile of crap.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]This is all that needs to be said about the matter. /thread

Bigboi500

Yay! Let's only sell FPS clones to the NA market because that's the only genre that will sell a bundle and make us filthy rich! If that's the case the gaming industry has turned into a steaming pile of crap.

This goes to show that there isn't much of a hardcore audience with the Wii.

Wasdie

Should of been a PS3/360 title. Making a third party core title for the Wii is just asking for poor sales.

Should of been a PS3/360 title. Making a third party core title for the Wii is just asking for poor sales.

Merex760

Should of been a PS3/360 title. Making a third party core title for the Wii is just asking for poor sales.

Merex760

[QUOTE="Merex760"]

Should of been a PS3/360 title. Making a third party core title for the Wii is just asking for poor sales.

charizard1605