XSX uses last gen WIFI with no usb type C (so next gen)

The controllers using AA batteries is absolutely the worst thing about this console. Also, this means that the rechargeable battery pack that you will have to buy also doesn't charge with USB C.

Thanks MS for giving options. I'd rather be able to use AA batteries or rechargeable if I wanted. This lame fake outrage over AA batteries is hilarious.

Oh no I can't charge my controller over USB-C. What ever will Xbox owners do. How is this an issue?

@kingtito: Whatever makes you feel better man. Spin it how you want.

I just don't see the issue. Several times in the past I've had to connect my PS4 controller to a charging cable because it died while sitting. Never once have I had that problem with my Xbox controllers so I don't understand how anyone can hate on something that's a non issue. It just seems like reaching at this point.

Odd things to be missing from a premium product.

What's the problem here, though?

1 - People playing on wi-fi ruin the online multiplayer for anyone with a stable ethernet connection and Microsoft servers are choked slowpokes anyway. Good riddance.

2 - USB-C? Bruh... what kind of devices and peripherals do you expect to connect to an Xbox anyway?

I'm not even trolling here, just shaking my head...

Where have you been? The creator of the Xbox Elite Series 2 controller Elliott Hsu said having an internal battery allowed them to create a more "premium product" including better aesthetics and build quality over the AA battery XB1 controllers.

Try to keep up with latest xbox hardware.

It's called having a fiber connection.

A built in battery does NOT make your product more premium. All it does is force you to keep your controller on a charging station and every time you charge your controller the battery life is shortened little by little. Yeah sounds premium to me fakeboy.

I'd rather have an option fakeboy. I'd never once had an issue with AA batteries but I have with my PS4 controllers. You'd know if actually played games fakeboy. Since you haven't touched your PS4 in over a year AND your Xbox is collecting dust in the closet.

@briguyb13: a fibre connection (which I have) only brings speeds into your home .. your router will be the bottle neck.. many gigabit routers are only capable of connecting at 400Mbps (or so) you specifically have to buy a router that will connect at higher speeds.

Wifi then adds latency which is a bigger issue with online gaming

Not for some of us who have better routers? I don't have any noticeable lag in my wifi connection.

@briguyb13: sorry doesn't matter how "good" your router is wifi will add latency

I have a true Gigabit router on a gigabit connection and I will always use ethernet because latency is far better than wifi

https://www.howtogeek.com/217463/wi-fi-vs.-ethernet-how-much-better-is-a-wired-connection/

I didn't say having an internal battery made it more premium the Xbox team did. Chill out and stop having a meltdown fakeboy. If you played games like I do (40 days played in WoW classic this year alone) Maybe you would know why nobody uses AA batteries anymore and everyone just snap buys the play and charge kit and are sick of the AA batteries.

Doesn't matter because my wifi is sufficient for me. I'm not a MLG pro gamer who's life depends on wins and kdr, I just play for fun.

Bro, you quoted it. Nothing about internal batteries makes a controller premium. It just gives you less options. And did you just call me a fakeboy? Well at least I know the difference between 2.4g and 5g Wi-fi, I've also played on at least 1 console in the past year. I'd watch who you call a fakeboy clown since everyone knows your gaming history or lack thereof.

If I played games like you LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL dude did you just seriously post that? You game yet haven't touched your PS4 in over a year. You game but haven't touched your Xbox and in fact stuffed it in a closet? You game yet you only play 1 game on PC? I've been playing wow since vanilla you clown and that hardly makes you a gamer. You're a fakeboy posting fake rage over a system you don't play on or plan on getting. You are the very definition of fakeboy.

Well that was never debated by me,wired connection will always be better,but wifi 5 still is good enough,most of this game are not make to work with 200MB connections they are made with the slowest connections in mind,so a 5MB or little over will work for most games,wifi 5 exceed that by miles.

Sure there way be some latency but then again wired connections are not latency or lag free either,they are just better sometimes those problems don't even have to do with your connection been wireless or wired.

Certainly there is some difference between the 2,wifi 6 has considerable bigger bandwidth,playing on wifi is no different that playing online using you cellphone with millions for not saying billions of people do every day.

Now does this hurt the xbox series X? No i don't think it does at all,because most games are not make to maximize the amount of bandwidth wifi 5 has let alone wifi 6,most games online work on a 5MB connection and 2 or 3 MB upstream,you don't need 100MB to play online is over kill.

Which is why i say it means nothing,don't waste so much effort in attacking wifi simply because the xbox series X has an inferior wifi,because it is irrelevant if it is wifi 5 or wifi 6 sure we would love to always get the best specially on a $500 product but i can understand why they didn't do it wifi 5 is ok.

NO in fact i am not even defending protoss as i quote him and told him it isn't something that will make or break the series X.

@tormentos: Non of that matters at this point. I would be willing to bet you couldn't tell the difference between gaming on a wi-fi5 or wi-fi6. Anyone serious about online gaming is going to hardwire in period. Casuals might be fine with wi-fi gaming but they're the kind of users that wouldn't even be able to tell the difference so it would't matter to them in the 1st place.

Millions do every day is a sad notion to think that people don't use wifi for gaming.

Ok i get why he say wifi 5 is ok but to downplay wifi 6 is just a joke,he does have a point just like i already explain it no game will max out wifi 5 which is why it is ultimately irrelevant.

USB C is not click bait,in fact thanks to my switch been USB C i can charge it with my phone charger or charge my phone with my switch charger is convenient if you have 10 devices and all 10 are USB C than having 5 different standards and many wires all over the place.

Just like USB is the standard on PC.

Also isn't that the indie developer who claimed the xbox series S would not hold back the series X but he doesn't have even make a single game yet?

The arguments you people are using get more and more pathetic with every post,is just much simpler to say wifi 5 is more than fine no series X game will ever EVEEEEERRRRRRR saturate that bandwidth EVEEEEER.

@tormentos: Yeah I bet if we looked at the numbers Wi-Fi gamers probably outnumber ethernet users on consoles. I think most people don't care about having the better connection and just type in there wi-fi password and connect through that instead and use like a laptop or smartphone etc.

This is total BULLSHIT and damage control,there are rechargeable AA batteries in fact DURACELL has them so instead of MS been cheap ass and greedy they should pack a damn pair of those and a cable to charge them,and still leave you with the option to use regular A, after all the xbox controller has less functions than the PS one but cost the same and some models even more.

This is pure uncut damage control.

The xbox has no wifi 6 (which still is ok)

No rechargeable batteries (which is not fu**ing OK)

And no USB C (which i do think is not OK either)

And you are ok with this like always.

Oh noes you have to recharge your rechargeable PS4 controller,oh the humanity.

Yes because your xbox has eternal batteries which never run out or need to be charged you are such a joke is not even funny think because you time this crap man,you are simply shooting words from the holster.

Your xbox controller will either need to be charge at some point PERIOD or will need a damn battery change i know i own a damn xbox one,and while a pair of AA batteries will go much much further than the PS4 rechargeable ones in the end they die.

This is even more freaking bull shit man why do you people make this shitty arguments really?

How do you fu**ing know that the person on xbox live with slow connection is on wifi and the slow connection is not their won damn connection been slow?

Do you know that there are part in US that 5MB or 10MB connection are basically normal? Not everyone on the country has an ultra high speed connection.

Worse from were you get that people on wifi are the slow one,i can be on wifi and has faster connection than many,wifi 5 is capable of 3.6Gb/s considerably faster than most internet connection out there.

Now if you have your TV way to far from your modem that is another 2 cent.

Doesn't matter USB C is the standard period it should be USB C is call future proofing.

@tormentos:

Ohh, man you remind me when I thought I could actually convince ppl with reason and common sense. I was a hardcore cow back then, still am.

Take it easy bro, ps5 is winning big time

Lol....why does anybody "have to buy" a rechargeable battery pack? Ps4s battery life is woeful....i now get less than 3 hours life out of a charge, and end up just playing with the cable plugged in, which is just so outdated.

I'd much rather have AA batteries giving me much, much longer gaming time without cables draping across the room - but with every option available if I want. You can keep the rechargeable battery pack.

The only damage control is you clowns crying over nothing. I'd rather have the option and MS doesn't need to provide any rechargeable batteries. I'd never had an issue with a MS controller but I have with PS controllers. Non issue clown

Yet feels better in my hands with better stick placement. PS refuses to get with the times and instead only adds mostly useless features.

I agree this is pure damage control....by cows. Most cows crying about batteries are those that don't even have an Xbox or use MS controllers.

Yep, wi-fi6 is a non issue will be a non issue for 90% of gamers. Funny how you're crying about something that isn't even close to being in the majority of users homes. Like I said you couldn't even tell the difference

Oh noes you have to insert new batteries, oh the humanity. Oh the irony.

Xbox batteries run low or out it takes all of 5 seconds to swap. BTW I use eneloop rechargeable so a non issue. I don't have that same luxury with PS controllers now do I. Battery goes dead in one of those then it's either stop playing and put on charging station or connect to a charging cable. Then it's like the 90s all over. Yeah sounds like a winner to me

It's called swapping batteries out you clown. You can't seriously be this ignorant....wait yes you can

1 - you literally just confirmed my point, lol

2 - tell me what are all the unofficial devices that are supposedly going to be needed w/ Xbox...

Ok you just confirmed you didn't read my post.

First of all want me to tell you why you would not tell the difference?

Its because wifi 5 and wifi 6 by FAR out speed your internet connection.

In other words if your network card has a 100mb/s connection cap,and mine has 1,000 MB/s cap even while both been wired you would not notice any difference even that my connection has 10 times the speed of yours.

This is because your game is done to work on a 5MB or 10MB connection,so even that you have much less speed than me,there difference will not be seen because your connection is not been saturated neither is mine.

Now if you wanted to pass 500 MB/s my network adapter would smoke yours,because even that 500 mb/s doesn't saturate my 1,000 network it does by far exceed what your network adapter is capable of.

So again wifi 5 is more than fine, and by the way millions of people game using wifi without problems is not 2000,is 2020 network adapters of today are more advance and work better than in the old days.

Nobody is using AA batteries dude. Every single user on xbox is buying the play charge kit over a long period of time it saves you ton of money on AA batteries and no more changing them in out or worrying if you have any left.

Its just having peace of mind, and using rechargeable AA batteries isn't any better than a play and charge kit. Everyone just switches to the kit. I just throw batteries that come with the controller in my cabinet maybe even the trash since I don't use AA batteries on anything anymore.

@tormentos: ,"NO in fact i am not even defending protoss as i quote him and told him it isn't something that will make or break the series X.

....and yet when I rightly told him he has no idea what he is talking about (because he said he didn't know what the difference between 2.4 and 5 GHz was), you jump in and white knight by calling me desperate for defending the issue.

You then go on to actually defend the issue...which I never did....so how desperate does it make you?

Pathetic.

If it were really about options, Microsoft would sell controllers both with and without a rechargeable battery. And let's not act like the pitiful battery in the PS4 controller is the only option. Nintendo's pro controller for the Switch and also the controller they used for the Wii U both have outstanding battery life.

I'm not really sure how the absence of USB 3.1 Gen 2 is a big deal. Are people going to be using an external drive on a devices where the biggest selling point is the hot interface between the SSD and the CPU.

USB-C is a form factor, not an electrical spec. I'm sure the controller will have a USB-C port.

• USB 3.1 Gen 1 = 5 Gbps = .625 GB/s
• USB 3.1 Gen 2 = 10 Gbps = 1.25 GB/s
• New SSDs are much much faster.

WiFi 6 is actually extremely fast and low latency. I have an access point that supports it and I did some testing with my desktop just for fun.

I will, of course, be using a wired connection since I wired my house up. Smoke 'em if you got 'em, amirite?

Not many people have eth in their walls or have their consoles next to a router. It's likely if you're playing games online (especially on consoles) you're playing with people on wifi. WiFi 6 may not be prominent yet, but it will be as more devices support it. That's going to benefit those using it, and those playing with them. Kind of a sad omission when you think about it.

Rather them cut corners there than in CPU, GPU, Cooling, Memory, RDNA and RayTracing like another console is doing.

And if you are using wifi for gaming on your console, then LOL!

No USB C???? in 2020? Christ what piece of antiquity do they have?

No i just downplay you lame excuse.

I am not downplaying the xbox for having wifi 5 because that is more than good for online gaming.

and USB C is the standard so anything that may come would use it.

@PurpleMan5000: That doesn't make sense. You'd prefer it if ms sold one controller with AA power, and another with rechargeable?

So if I had an AA controller and wanted to buy a rechargeable I'd have to buy a rechargeable controller? Or would I buy just the recharge pack.....like it is now?

As it is, Xbox controllers last longer than PS4 controllers. As an option, I can buy a rechargeable pack..or rechargeable AA's. There's no way of improving dualshocks battery life, other than plugging a cable in...which I often have to do....and time warping back to PS2 days and it's cabled joystick.

Should have had the option, but not a big loss overall.

Really? You have a source that ms has sold 40-50 million charge kits? You do know that having playstation style rechargeable controllers is way, WAY down on the list of requested features?

Strange that you are so passionate about having rechargeable controllers yet you haven't turned yours on in one and a half years....

The article is misleading. USB-C refers only to the form factor and has nothing to do with the electrical spec.

The new Xbox controller will have USB-C.

Well to be fair, I never do lol

Why don't you tell me how YOU going to be able to tell? You think that nanoseconds will be noticeable to you or any casual gamer? Hardcore aren't going to game over Wi-fi knowing hardwire is the only way to go.

As for the rest of your post you pretty much confirmed casuals won't see a difference so NOT having wi-fi6 really is a non issue

Ugh, what excuses? The fact they had to cut all the useless crap (in terms of a gaming console) to keep the costs as low as possible and even then they're still losing money?

You seem to mistake me with some blinded Xbox fanboy, yet the only "Xbox" branded thing at my apartment is half a dozen of gamepads. WTF... 😑

It's worth noting that support for WiFi 6 requires licensing fees.

usb-c is for idiots who dont know which way is up

Is ps4 WiFi 4?

Anybody that really cares about speed would just use Ethernet

Lol, you cows are so desperate to find something to distract from the FACT that the XsX is the more powerful console and will have the BETTER versions of games... it's quite amusing.

If you wanted a rechargeable pack, you wouldn't have bought the AA controller.

It doesn't matter even if X-Series X controller is USB-C if the connector to X-Series X is USB-A it will never utilize its full potential.

Only a USB-C connection can utilize the full potential of USB 3.1 Gen 2

It could charge slower etc and have tons of other issues.

USB-C is better in every single way over USB-A and its been around since 2014 were in 2020 this saved microsoft no money to go with A.

There is no issue with current wifi tech.

for a controller? LOL the **** does it even mattter.

Faster charging is a good point. USB-C can carry up to 15W at 3A.

I was thinking more about the data speeds versus an NVMe SSD in the context of using external drives.

The USB spec names are getting silly. Where are my USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 devices at?

So true...

USB C does not make a the connection automatically USB 3.1 Gen 2. According to this article it could have Gen 2 capabilities or Gen 1

https://www.maketecheasier.com/usb-31-gen2-vs-usb-31-gen1/#:~:text=USB%203.1%20Gen%201%20supports%20speeds%20up%20to,1%20also%20includes%20more%20than%20one%20connector%20type.