XSX uses last gen WIFI with no usb type C (so next gen)

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Okay... It still has a lot of benefits even for idiots who know which way is up.....

....but I agree I don't think it is a big deal electrically for a controller, and if the speeds of an NVMe SSD are really required for next gen game then an external drive will not be viable anyway.

It's still a more robust connector, which the new Xbox controller will still take advantage of because it has a USB-C connection.

Isn't that common sense, though? It's literally just like type A - can be just about anything.

yeah but I am thinking many people assume that it is "special" just by having that form factor

I guess you are talking about USB 4.0, which still can't pull the throughput of a fast SSD, so... meh, dead end. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@WESTBLADE85: I think MS choice is fine here.

I don't think having a USB-C connection on the console side is worth much. Not unless it supports thunderbolt 3 for VR or something. I don't think we know what electrical spec the USB-C port on the PS5 is using yet. I couldn't find it.

I'm very happy both controllers are supporting USB-C, as I just like that connector waaay more than micro-B.

@PurpleMan5000: Which controller does the console come with....or are you having consoles with different controller options?

Theres a lot of things that ms could have done better with the X1, but theres very little wrong with the controller....and whereby my dualshock is already on its last legs because it needs a new battery pack, my x1 controller will work on next gen games as well.

Why not offer options with the console? Or at the very least, go with the option that most consumers would actually want and use the rechargeable controller as the default.

It would be nice to have, but less than 1% of people have wifi 6, so not a big deal. I'd much rather have a 15% more powerful GPU to be honest. Also, I always keep things plugged in with ethernet anyway.

@PurpleMan5000: The cheapest option is available and included in the bundle. All other options are available as an upgrade, or a separate, new piece of hardware. Having a more expensive option bundled will just raise the bundle's price.....and I have no idea why you think people would prefer ps4's solution over x1's. Stating it as a fact doesn't actually make it a fact unless there's a source.

Lack of Wifi 6 isnt a big deal to me. A: my router doesnt support it and B: I keep my consoles hardwired for faster downloads and less multiplayer latency issues.

Decided to go ahead and plug in an ethernet cable to my One X. Personally I haven't noticed a difference, but if it makes my connection more stable then why not?

i love how people keep saying "who uses Wifi to game online?"

maybe people who live in 3 floor houses where the router/modem is in the living room downstairs and the game room is in the bedroom upstairs?

Not everyone lives in a studio apartment were they have everything in one room..

Exactly. But honestly, there's not much point in going for wifi6. Most users don't have connections fast enough to max out the theoretical speed of AC - and even if you could, it's only going to matter on the initial download. Further, both of my consoles are wired and don't come near using the available bandwidth when downloading games.

The absence of USB-C is strange indeed though. This isn't something that costs extra as it is simply the shape of the connector. EVERYTHING should be on type C at this point.

@pyro1245: What do you mean nothing to do with the electrical spec? I don't give two shits about electrical spec.

Can I put USB-C cables in it or not? that's the only thing that matters.

Actually, I just learned about WiFi 6, and the new Xbox should have supported it. Speed isn't everything, but all the other features are very useful too.

Lets see a LEMMING claim he gets 3 hours out of the PS4 controller seems legit.

You know what is outdated? AA batteries they were introduce in 1907 and predates my great gran father let alone consoles.

This is a shitty excuse use by lemmings to justify MS milking them dry,the xbox controller can have AA batteries and be rechargeable.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Duracell-ION-SPEED-1000-Rechargeable-Battery-Charger-for-AA-and-AAA-Includes-4-AA-NiMH-Batteries/39744509

This shit cost $13 dollars man to YOU imagine how much cheaper that shit will be for MS,they can use rechargeable batteries and still allow you to use AA batteries for the so call bullshit excuse of ""convenience"" there is nothing convenient about paying every few days for AA batteries that is the sole reason why rechargeable batteries exist.

Imagine a world were you have to freaking use AA or AAA in your damn cell phone because of so call convenience.

The only reason why your xbox controller doesn't come with rechargeable batteries is because MS sell you a $20 over priced charge and play kit.

That would be even worse,if you don't buy a rechargeable batteries that mean you are doom to buy normal AA ones which do run out every couple of days.

You either buy a charge and play kit,buy another brand of rechargeable of buy AA weekly no way around that you are paying one way or the other.

1-You can have the option and still have rechargeable batteries don't be a damn sucker,there had been rechargeable batteries for longer than the damn xbox brand has existed.

And YES MS NEED to provide those batteries WTF man is 2020 what freaking high quality product come today with AA? Other than TV's what?

I don't endorse every shit sony does just because its sony,i surely didn't like when they started charging for online play,nor liked when they try to push their damn proprietary sd cards on Vita.

2-WTF does analogue placement have to do here? The industry standard is the DS go cry else where with your whole superior shit most people don't care or give 2 flying fu** about analogue placement only lemmings with fragile ego do that,113 million PS4 owners mostly don't care.

3-That 90% number is pulled from deep deep down your buns PROVE IT.

I already stated is not a big deal but downplaying WIFI 6 just because the console you love doesn't have it is lol worthy.

4-Is not about inserting new batteries is because you should not be paying extra for batteries in 2020 loser,but you like been milk by MS be my guess,making you buy separate batteries on a controller that cost the same or even more than sony's one while having less functions is anti consumer.

5-Oh you use Eneloop i guess that erase the fact that you NEED to charge your batteries and that you payed extra for your batteries buffoon,so here you are crying about the PS4 when all you need to do is connect the cable and keep playing while charging but the option is there you can continue to play didn't you like options?

So while you bend over to pay for batteries done by other manufacturer that isn't MS you completely ignore the real point of my argument,you are paying extra for batteries were ever you like it or not period.

And the fun part is that all of you cry babies who defend MS and claim to love the AA option,non use normal regular AA all of you use rechargeable ones which make this perfectly clear to anyone with a single once of common sense.

You LOVE rechargeable batteries but have to defend MS shitty policies when it come to batteries and to justify their bullshit you claim to not use play and charge kits no you just buy from another vendor in what unavoidably is a self own moment,and you go through all this trouble just to avoid admitting that what MS does is bullshit.

NO this ones which are total bullshit.

You for FACT don't know who is on wifi or not on xbox live,you as a matter of FACT don't know if the person on slow connection is actually on a SLOW wired connection.

And your internet speed will not saturate or come even CLOSE to saturate wifi 5,let alone 6 which more than double the speed and works even better with more people.

So basically you were downplaying wifi 6 without a valid point and yes acting like a blind lemming,hell i am not even attacking wifi 5 here or the xbox for not having wifi 6 and is very clear.

USB C is what is been use now,what ever device may come latter on would benefit from using it so again there is no point in downplaying it,USB C is a non stopping train until the next big thing arrives it is always like that.

Yes and that is OK because your internet will not saturate that,just like any game requirement now will not saturate wifi 5,but tech doesn't stop moving just because your console of choice doesn't have something either been xbox,ps or switch.

🤣🤣🤣

He who downplayed 900p and 720p vs 1080p now brags about power,while ignoring that the majority of their user base will play on the shitty 4TF series S.😂

Best version will be on PC worse version on series S unless that is the switch get a version as well.😁

Well the essay writing clown seems to be living up to his reputation. 😂 We are back to AA batteries. 🤣

@tormentos: Rechargeable batteries die over time. Smartphone batteries used to be replaceable, now the whole phone is. 2 years, and you see noticeable differences in battery life....and that's the same with the awful dualshock battery. Yes, I get around 3 hours battery life after around 4 years usage....and it's not worth me buying another one because dualshock won't work with ps5 games.

AAs don't run out every couple of days you clown.

A pack of AAs will last me months, and I wouldn't want to change it if you paid me....you just can't admit how awful battery life is on dualshock because you're a blind fanboy.

Besides all that, the battery life on PS4 controllers is awful from day 1.....because its being drained by useless features and awful energy saving features.

They sacrificed everything so this be the most powerful console they using old parts for everything else.

Is the case made from old kinect plastic as well?

1. I have rechargeable batteries and I didn't need MS to provide them. It doesn't add any value what so ever to have rechargeable batteries built in. The price was minimal.

Lol did you just you don't endorse shit Sony does just because they're Sony? BS your posting history would say otherwise. Nice try though

2. It's another reason why I prefer the Xbox controller besides giving me the option for which kind of batteries I want to use.

3. It's just as legit as any numbers you cows pull out of your ass. Besides go ahead and tell me more than 10% have upgraded their Wi-Fi to version 6. Tell me how the casuals would even care to upgrade this early on or that they would or could tell the difference. It's an unnecessary expense.

No you're making a big deal out of it clown. Most of us know that wi-fi 6 is unnecessary at this point and the fact that most if not all user wouldn't even be able to tell the difference. Those that might be able to will be smart enough to know gaming over wi-fi is inferior to hardwired. So yeah it's not a big issue for most, just for cows.

4. Oh but it is about just inserting new batteries or in my case swapping out my rechargeables for a fresh set. The ONLY people crying about batteries are you clowns.

5. I purchased a large pack of Eneloop batteries clown and guess what, I use them for every controller in the house. i10, dual temp, Direct TV, OLED TV and wife's controllers and 4 sitting in the charger at all times. So that cost was minimal at best clown and takes no more than a few seconds to swap out.

So while you argue over something that's a non issue you miss the point that having options is better than not having options. If that comes with a minimal cost so be it. The only ones complaining are you cows.

There is a big difference between using rechargeable AA and having a built in battery that you can't swap out. The fact that we can swap out for AA rechargeable or AA regular is a plus not a negative. PS controllers have no choice and if they die while playing then you're stuck either wired like the 90s or you have to stop playing to charge them. Don't have that worry with Xbox controllers.

So you keep crying about a console you don't own on controllers you don't use. I'll continue to enjoy having my options

lol that's just wrong, man

Everything dies stop damage controlling i still get 5 hours from my launch PS4 thats say allot.

Yes they do and is totally dependent on how much you play,if you barely touch your xbox one which would not surprise me,sure the damn batteries will last you a month,but if you play 5 to 8 hours a day yeah in a few days those batteries will be dead.

Stop making shit up i do own a damn xbox one.

2 AA batteries last like 42 hours on xbox one controller which mean,like in 5 days you will be need in a new pair,the charge and play kit like 30 hours which mean like in 4 to 5 days you need to charge again that is totally dependent on your play time.

So again if 2 AA batteries last you a damn month if because you don't play SHIT on your xbox one.

Yes but it has a battery that last you 5 hours + is free and is rechargeable,MS FORCE YOU TO BUY BATTERIES no matter how much you throw a damn tantrum reality is you are FORCE TO PAY.

Shitty 5 hour rechargeable battery >>>>>>>>>>> NO battery.

This coming from a proven part time lemming who defend and support MS hiding free to play games under live pay wall and support and defend MS for forcing people to buy batteries.🤣

Now who's the corporate bitch Pedro.

This is enough to see what is your angle,what you will put up with,and what you are all about.

Yes MS need to provide them on a damn $500 dollars consoles,sony has been providing them since 2006 so yeah they need to,i sure the PS5 controller life is better the one on PS4 wasn't great but the fact of the matter is.

Shitty 5 hour rechargeable battery >>>>>>>>>>> 2 AA duracell that will not last you a week and which will force you to buy batteries.

You mean like having options? Or you mean like not crying about stuff that's irrelevant. Or crying about something that I don't own or plan on owning ala cows? Yep all about options clown

No they don't. They need to provide 3 things
1. Games
2. long term support
3. Power
They're going to support the next Xbox for many years so no problem there. Games is up in the air at this point but it's early. Power has been provided as it's the most powerful console ever created. So no, rechargeable batteries wasn't on that list. Cows are the only clowns crying about.

Yeah Sony includes rechargeable batteries and they drain fast and eventually die. All an Xbox controller takes is a battery swap be it regular or rechargeable but if the PS battery dies then you're either buying a new one, sending it in to Sony for a fee or buying a new battery and replacing it yourself. Yeah doesn't sound like an advantage to me or any rational person for that matter...no you're not rational.

Says the cow that praises and defends Sony just because they're Sony. Umm yeah as if your opinion means more than jack N shit.

Nice try clown....keep that crying over batteries on a system you're not going to own

@tormentos: lol....I think it's absolute comedy gold that you constantly rant, swear and tell people how they are supposed to be thinking and then accuse everybody and their dog of damage controlling because you don't like what you're reading.

Of course I don't play 42 hours of games in 5 days.....I have a life! That's like 8 hours a day every day!

I'll play 3-4 hours when I have the time, and then do that 2-3 days a week....and even that is excessive for someone with a family and a job....so yes, a pack of batteries lasts me months. Yes, I'll have the occasional 5-6 hours session but they are getting rarer.

Best thing was your awful mathematics. "Dang AA batteries won't last a dog-gone week..."

Lol....

1-This is a FACT 2 AA batteries last like 42 hour on the xbox one controller,that means if your last more than 1 month you barely play you xbox one,there is no way around that,so you play your xbox for 1 hour a day or less.

2-So 3 to 4 hours the PS4 controller last 5 hours so you are admitting that you BITCH and cry about the PS4 controller when you play time section actually last less than the PS5 batteries does,if you don't charge your controller that is on YOU.

From what i can see you barely touch your xbox one if 2 AA last you a month or more there is no way around that,i never have that problem i charge my controllers and my batteries for my xbox one controller are rechargeable which i payed for because MS didn't include a pair.

They should include a pair just like sony needs to do better with their next controller battery life those are facts.

Ill tell you the 2 option that you have since you hide so much on them.

1-Buy regular AA most expensive route.

2-Buy rechargeable ones either by play and charge kit or 3rd party ones.

Those are your options in bout you need to PAY,so effectively you have no option but to PAY.

I have a freaking xbox one just like i own a damn PS4,and is pathetic that every time you get hit with a damn good argument you will hide on bullshit lies and made up FUD theories about cows.

The fact that i slam MS constantly doesn't mean i am incapable of owning one of their products,i have own MS products before the xbox even existed,hell i even owned a damn Zune because i have never been a fan of apple and their over priced shit.

Hell look at you now saying the have to provide power you who claimed for graphics you had PC and downplayed the xbox one short comings for YEARS vs the PS4 you who claim to see barely any difference even from 720p vs 1080p now act like power is all that matter,meanwhile the majority of your user base will play on a 4TF machine greatly distant from both PS5 and series X,which is basically an anchor for the series X.

All batteries die and you can replace the ones on PS4 is not hard nor requires a damn degree in computer science.

You are. Next question.

You're right, he's is definitely great for a laugh! LMAO!!!!!!!

@tormentos: Keep trying. Your just making yourself look funnier.

1) "1-This is a FACT 2 AA batteries last like 42 hour on the xbox one controller,that means if your last more than 1 month you barely play you xbox one,there is no way around that,so you play your xbox for 1 hour a day or less."

Nope. 1 hour a day or less is less than 31 hours Einstein....that's less than the 42 hours you quoted for battery life...comedy gold.

2. "So 3 to 4 hours the PS4 controller last 5 hours so you are admitting that you BITCH and cry about the PS4 controller when you play time section actually last less than the PS5 batteries does,if you don't charge your controller that is on YOU."

Nope. Like I said, rechargeable batteries lose their charge....and mine last around 3 hours these days. Even then....you're asking me to compare a 42 hour battery on x1 to 5 on PS4....more comedy gold 😅😅😅!

I said "A pack of AA batteries last months."

Not that 2 AAs last me a month....try reading before getting so apoplectic.

Anyway, no hard feelings....people like protoss just post banal bait threads, at least your rants are genuinely funny. Keep it up. 😅

1. Expensive is relative el tormented. AA batteries are cheap and so are rechargeable AA batteries. Built in batteries I'm not sure but having to send in your controller to replace, replace it yourself or purchase a new one can all be more expensive. I know, options for cows suck huh.

2. Yep, which the Eneloop with enough batteries to run all my controllers including the Xbox with a charger all for less than the cost of a single controller replacement. My batteries will last for many many years on top of that. Aren't options fantastic

Yeah yeah yeah so you say. What's your gametag for Live? Even if you do you don't play on it. Aren't you one of the cows constantly talking about how redundant the X1 is and that you have a gaming PC? Why would you own an X1 if that were the case? It's not like you ever complimented a single MS game and if you did you'd claim it can be played on PC.

It makes you incapable of being objective, like now. It also means that it's highly unlikely that you'd actually play on it. You might have purchased one for the kids but for you, I bet you don't even touch it.

Not every game gets played on my PC. So when I choose a game to play on my console I'd want the most powerful console to play it on which usually means the best looking and performing console.. So yeah it makes perfect sense for those that can actually grasp the reasoning, you can't. BTW before the X1X launched I played mutliplats on the PS4 so I was consistent.

Yeah all batteries die but when they die on the built in PS4 controller it's a lot more work and hassle to replace it. Let's not even mention all the casuals that don't have the knowledge or skill to open up the controller and do it themselves. What do they do? Buy a new controller or have it sent to Sony....$$$$$$$. I'll keep my options you keep what Sony tells you to keep