Y did't people complain about Ps2 graphics but complain about Wii graphics

This is a two part post!!

Part one, last gen (let me know if I should use other games) :

PS2-

Xbox-

Gamecube-

The difference isn't that big.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Because the PS2's visuals weren't a generation behind the Xbox and GameCube.

rcafan

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Because the PS2's visuals weren't a generation behind the Xbox and GameCube.

rcafan

Because the PS2's visuals weren't a generation behind the Xbox and GameCube.

Part 2 of 2 (current gen):

PS3-

Xbox 360-

Wii-

Pretty sure RE4 is the best wii graphics and it's a last gen game so the gap is very wide this gen compared to last gen

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Because the PS2's visuals weren't a generation behind the Xbox and GameCube.

rcafan

the original Xbox can compete with it though. and its' best games aren't using artstyles that can potentially fool a person in how powerful it is.

it's almost kind of sad that a game like Dead Space was tech demo'ed on the original Xbox, but the Wii version, extraction is just some rail shooter.

not the way to measure power of course, but it really makes you wonder.

because the graphics jump from PS1 to PS2 was huge and there was no jump from the Gamecube to the Wii graphically.

The difference is that when the PS2 came out those graphics at the time were acceptable and considered pretty goodfor its time. Seeing how some games are now with the 360 and the PS3 and comparing them to the Wii there is a huge difference between the systems. Basically where the Wii is now is where the PS2 was 9 years ago.

Well aside from the hardware thing, the big problem with the Wii is that overall the production values are extremely low. Very few games have the budget and quality of artwork that the big PS2/Xbox games had last gen.

People did. PS2 had some ugly games, not near as bad as Wii for the time though.

Because -

1. The difference in power wan't that big between the 3 consoles. Huge disparity now. It would almost be like if the ps2 had N64 graphics last gen(lol)
2. Mostof the best 3rd partydevelopers in world and the Sony devs pushed theps2 pretty hard (rarely happens on Wii) with some memorable games with memorable visuals. The bestdidn't shy away from the system as muchas they do the Wii now.

I complained about how PS2 graphics had to be downgraded for DC ports. I still think PS2 is over rated and held very few quality exclusives.

Because there is a HUGE difference gap between ps360 vs wii compared to ps2 vs the gamecube/xbox

The difference is that when the PS2 came out those graphics at the time were acceptable and considered pretty goodfor its time. Seeing how some games are now with the 360 and the PS3 and comparing them to the Wii there is a huge difference between the systems. Basically where the Wii is now is where the PS2 was 9 years ago.

xscrapzx

It wasn't acceptable graphics to those of us with a DC and VGA.

Clearly the Ps2's graphics weren't as good as the gamecube's and Xbox's, and clearly the Wii's graphics aren't as good as Ps3's or 360's yet people always complain about Wii's graphics.

Jelley0

i will tell u why. at that time graphically xbox>gamecube>ps2 but the difference between ps2 and xbox graphcis are minimal and not huge at all. also ps2 compared to ps1 and nintendo 64 there was a humongous jump in graphical capabilities.

as for this gen ps3>360>wii graphically but the difference between the graphics of wii compared to ps3 and 360 is humongous, they cannot even be compared. for this gen wii BARELY produce graphics that are better than the ps2 (a last gen console). nowadays even the ps3 hardware is outdated but the wii graphics are extremely extremely outdated.

As many have alreadysaid:

• Much bigger gap between Wii and its superiors, at least the PS2 could handle most multiplats.
• No progression from last gen hardware.
• Surprise that a Nintendo released a weak console, they've always competed in power before.

Handhelds are a different story, you automatically expect lower standards. Ironically though the 3DS is going to have amazing graphics for a small device, a return to old ways? 8)

because they were almost the same

People did. PS2 had some ugly games, not near as bad as Wii for the time though.

magnax1

this is another ridiculous argument sheep make... pffff

I still think the PS2 is better then the WII, the ps2 had hella good games the wii obviously doesnt

Because while the PS2 wasn't the most powerful, it was probably the console of its generation that got pushed the hardest. You can't say the same for Wii. The PS2 also had many first party titles with incredible production values for their time (GTA and MGS spring to mind). Wii has few games that strive for the same level of presentation.

Clearly the Ps2's graphics weren't as good as the gamecube's and Xbox's, and clearly the Wii's graphics aren't as good as Ps3's or 360's yet people always complain about Wii's graphics.

Jelley0

The ps2 had the worst graphics but the best games and all consoles besides the xbox were sdtv. Now the wii has sdtv graphics, pro-logic sound and the worst library of games. Sure is also the cheapest but not by much to say 360 arcade.

actually the wii graphics do not even look as good as PS2 or xbox. i have yet to see a game look as goos as gran torismo 4, SOTC, ninja gaiden black, crimson skies, or halo 2,not to mention riddick, doom 3, or tekken 5.

a MUCH larger gap I'd say.

HavocV3

This, pretty much. PS2 was almost at the same level as Gamecube graphically and for the most part games could be on all 3 with little difference. The Wii, not so much. I don't even think games like Fallout 3 would be possible on the Wii.

actually the wii graphics do not even look as good as PS2 or xbox. i have yet to see a game look as goos as gran torismo 4, SOTC, ninja gaiden black, crimson skies, or halo 2,not to mention riddick, doom 3, or tekken 5.

kobraka1

The xbox and gamecube were launched 18 months after the PS2 launched. It wasnt sony's fault that the PS2 ended up as the weakest console last gen, it was more powerful than the dreamcast which was the only competition at the time. Obviously anyone can release a console 18 months later and claim to be more powerful, I wouldnt call it much of an achievement given how quickly technology advances.

The wii on the other hand came a year after the xbox 360 was launched and yet it was a generation behind in graphics, that's something never seen before in the history of console gaming.

Because wiis graphics are comparable to ps2s graphics. One came out in 200. The other 2006

I only really complain when Wii graphics aren't up to par with Wii standards. Xenoblade, for example, doesn't look up to par with Xenosaga. That's unforgivable imo.

hakanakumono

This is how it goes. PS2 < Cube/Xbox < Wii. There is no reason at all any Wii game should be at the level or worse then a PS2 game. Even now Wii games of any worth should be better then Cube and Xbox games.

thats a funny thread title, thats all .. time for me to move along

its so unfair! ps2 graphics are so inferior! It only came out TEN years ago.....

Oh yea, so why does a more recent system have the same if not worse graphics?

I dont care, but all the graphics kiddies do.

Because the gap is MAAAASIVE. Who cars though, Wii is cool and forces devs not to rely on the graphics too much. Except for the Conduit, That sucked

Clearly the Ps2's graphics weren't as good as the gamecube's and Xbox's, and clearly the Wii's graphics aren't as good as Ps3's or 360's yet people always complain about Wii's graphics.

Jelley0

No, its doesnt work like that..

This was the gfx gap last gen between xbox/GC and PS2 -> |---|

This is the gfx gap between the PS3/360 and Wii -> |------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Actually, I DID complain about the PS2's graphics, because it was the only console last generation that lacked 480p support on the majority of its games. The Gamecube was producing some beautiful visuals at launch with titles like Pikmin having progressive-scan on *day one*. The Xbox was in the same boat. I hate interlacing and it's so painful to do anything with the PS2 knowing its visuals look like garbage on modern sets.

because the PS2 wasn't an overclocked PS1Giancar

[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Clearly the Ps2's graphics weren't as good as the gamecube's and Xbox's, and clearly the Wii's graphics aren't as good as Ps3's or 360's yet people always complain about Wii's graphics.

pc-ps360

i will tell u why. at that time graphically xbox>gamecube>ps2 but the difference between ps2 and xbox graphcis are minimal and not huge at all. also ps2 compared to ps1 and nintendo 64 there was a humongous jump in graphical capabilities.

as for this gen ps3>360>wii graphically but the difference between the graphics of wii compared to ps3 and 360 is humongous, they cannot even be compared. for this gen wii BARELY produce graphics that are better than the ps2 (a last gen console). nowadays even the ps3 hardware is outdated but the wii graphics are extremely extremely outdated.

I disagree.

The difference between the Xbox and PS2 was huge. Just look at games like NinjaGaiden, Conker, Riddick, Doom3, some multiplats like Soul Calibur ran at 720P resolution on Xbox and ALL games were minimum 480P while many PS2 games were 480I. Games like GOW and GOW2 tried to hide the PS2's weak graphical abilities by having static camera angles, low draw distances and very linear levels. Both GC and DC had better image quality than PS2.

[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Clearly the Ps2's graphics weren't as good as the gamecube's and Xbox's, and clearly the Wii's graphics aren't as good as Ps3's or 360's yet people always complain about Wii's graphics.

i will tell u why. at that time graphically xbox>gamecube>ps2 but the difference between ps2 and xbox graphcis are minimal and not huge at all. also ps2 compared to ps1 and nintendo 64 there was a humongous jump in graphical capabilities.

as for this gen ps3>360>wii graphically but the difference between the graphics of wii compared to ps3 and 360 is humongous, they cannot even be compared. for this gen wii BARELY produce graphics that are better than the ps2 (a last gen console). nowadays even the ps3 hardware is outdated but the wii graphics are extremely extremely outdated.

I disagree.

The difference between the Xbox and PS2 was huge. Just look at games like NinjaGaiden, Conker, Riddick, Doom3, some multiplats like Soul Calibur ran at 720P resolution on Xbox and ALL games were minimum 480P while many PS2 games were 480I. Games like GOW and GOW2 tried to hide the PS2's weak graphical abilities by having static camera angles, low draw distances and very linear levels. Both GC and DC had better image quality than PS2.

Well, i do complain wii graphics like it wasn't as good as my PC graphics.

Lets compare to PC to Wii graphics!

PC

Wii

Is it just me or did GoW2 look better than every gamecube game out there?shakmaster13

That's debatable but I actually agree on that, and I played the best looking GC games. It's one of the best looking games last gen IMO.

The Wii is apparently similar in power to the original Xbox (ie. a generation behind) and it shows, plus developers generally don't push it as hard as they pushed the PS2.

Yes, the gap is much, much wider. That might be why.

LovePotionNo9

... People did complain about PS2's inferior graphics.

Not nearly as much as they do about the Wii (which, really, is just annoying by now. You can't go one single review without the dumbass reviewer reminding us that Wii's graphics aren't as good as 360 and PS3. No crap, it's been, what, four years? We know already. We get it.), but yeah, the complaints still existed.