Yakuza is the Only popular Japanese Game series with Japanese Characters? Fail

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]i didn't know that it is suddenly important for devs to make important characters native to where the studio is based. All sorts of devs should be ashamed of themselves now. ferret-gamer

you tell me what wrong. Western devs make the majority of their games with Caucasian faces. Why cant the Japanese make games with Japanese faces? And they were using Caucasian faces even before they cared about appealing to the west

well ofcourse they can. But when the majority of games from Japan feature caucasian faces only, something is Wrong there

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[QUOTE="killu-later"]

How about Final fantasy, Devil may cry, pokemon, yugioh, old resident evil, silent hill, etc. All these games were made before they even cared about appealing to the West.

killu-later

Shrug, you can argue they didn't care about appealing to the west but I would argue most of those series obtained more than 50% of their sales from the West and so global appeal very well could have been part of the plan. Its also alot harder to show something as destinctly Asian when you are working on PS1, gameboy colour hardware. I would argue that while pokemon and yu gi oh portray what I guess you would consider white characters, they are stylized in an anime fashion which is a japanese ****as well.

This is an issue in Gaming and Anime alike. Not trying to offend you but if a Black American game studio were shelling out nothing but white male leads, i bet many black American gamers will have questions as well. Your appealing to the West excuse have already been debunked. In the End, the Japanese developers need to stop believing and stop feeding to the fans that Asian characters need Caucasian looking faces to succeed.

Except that you can see very deliberate attempts to add asian appeal to their games targeted at their home market. Again, Dynasty Warrriors, Sengoku Basara, Yakuza etc. You keep ignoring this. I frankly would love to see more culturally diverse gaming characters but its not very difficult to understand why the games are as they are in this current time. I also don't see how my western reasoning has been debunked. I have said if the aim is west you find western looking characters. If the game is eastern focused you find conventions more in tune with the east. Also, while anime characters may look "white" its a style that is distinctly japanese.

lol at yakuza being popular but yeah whats up with that?

it's not just games either i have not seen any asians in anime since what? akira? and that was out in 1987 or so.

(yes yes that's an exaggeration but you know what i'm saying here)

maybe it's because those guys can't write their way out of a wet paper bag and everytime they do any culture it's an embarassing racial stereotype so instead of screwing it up they just make everyone vanilla.

You see white looking faces in fantasy games because they're more exotic.

I would describe Japanese drawing as picking up on the "essence" of things, rather than drawing and outlining all of the details like westerners tend to do. The result is that different ethnicities tend to look more uniform. If a Japanese person were to draw my avatar, someone would probably suggest that they looked white.

Moreover, what the west perceives as "asian" features is not necessarily the rule. There are Japanese people with almond shaped, large eyes. There are Japanese people with pointed noses.

Except that you can see very deliberate attempts to add asian appeal to their games targeted at their home market. Again, Dynasty Warrriors, Sengoku Basara, Yakuza etc. You keep ignoring this. I frankly would love to see more culturally diverse gaming characters but its not very difficult to understand why the games are as they are in this current time. I also don't see how my western reasoning has been debunked. I have said if the aim is west you find western looking characters. If the game is eastern focused you find conventions more in tune with the east. Also, while anime characters may look "white" its a style that is distinctly japanese.

Japanese anime looking White is just as flawed for the same reason. But I dont need to go into that since its not game related. Again not to offend you, but being Black you should know better than to ignore anything race related. You simply telling me to ignore it and let it go is wrong on all levels. So it's ok for your people to fight for your kind But when I try to fight for my kind, you just tell me that there is No problem, forget it, let it go. See how you're not being fair here?

You see white looking faces in fantasy games because they're more exotic.

hakanakumono

so you're saying only White faces are exotic looking? yup, exactly how the Japanese devs think...which is Wrong on all levels

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

You see white looking faces in fantasy games because they're more exotic.

killu-later

so you're saying only White faces are exotic looking? yup, exactly how the Japanese devs think...which is Wrong on all levels

Why is it wrong?

Japanese anime looking White is just as flawed for the same reason. But I dont need to go into that since its not game related. Again not to offend you, but being Black you should know better than to ignore anything race related. You simply telling me to ignore it and let it go is wrong on all levels. So it's ok for your people to fight for your kind But when I try to fight for my kind, you just tell me that there is No problem, forget it, let it go. See how you're not being fair here?

killu-later

I have said numerous times, I would love to see more culturally diverse characters (and even locations hence why I was a big supporter for RE5 before they bastardized it) in gaming. Its not something that is negative in itself. Also yes, while I try to look at the world optimistally I'm well aware that your race will play apart in everything you do to some extent. I also don't see where you are going with "your people" here as though I've taken the side of saying that asians should just shut up and deal when my race is even less represented in gaming than yours :| I'm saying that the current trend is just a reality of the market. The market for games doesn't seem to be becoming any less western focused now and the reality is that the west is mostly white. So be it, that' just reality. You wanna argue they could create "even more" asian looking characters? Sure they could I suppose though frankly I still feel the cutural undertone of most eastern games is more important than the look of the characters. Why you are turning this into a us against them thing I really don't know but this will be my last response on the topic.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

You see white looking faces in fantasy games because they're more exotic.

hakanakumono

so you're saying only White faces are exotic looking? yup, exactly how the Japanese devs think...which is Wrong on all levels

Why is it wrong?

it's Wrong because the Japanese are ashamed to show their faces in Games, instead they feel more comfortable showing white faces. Which is Yellow facing just like The Last Airbender movie where Dark skinned Characters were replaced withwhite actors because they feel more comfortable putting White faces on the big screen. White actors playing colored roles on purpose is a crime and is the same thing as White faces on Japanese speaking characters.

lol at yakuza being popular but yeah whats up with that?

it's not just games either i have not seen any asians in anime since what? akira? and that was out in 1987 or so.

(yes yes that's an exaggeration but you know what i'm saying here)

maybe it's because those guys can't write their way out of a wet paper bag and everytime they do any culture it's an embarassing racial stereotype so instead of screwing it up they just make everyone vanilla.

Riverwolf007

Somebody please post the CG picture of Tidus and Yuna standing on the airship. Both of these characters are meant to look Japanese.

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[QUOTE="killu-later"]

so you're saying only White faces are exotic looking? yup, exactly how the Japanese devs think...which is Wrong on all levels

killu-later

Why is it wrong?

it's Wrong because the Japanese are ashamed to show their faces in Games, instead they feel more comfortable showing white faces. Which is Yellow facing just like The Last Airbender movie where Dark skinned Characters were replaced withwhite actors because they feel more comfortable putting White faces on the big screen. White actors playing colored roles on purpose is a crime and is the same thing as White faces on Japanese speaking characters.

The Japanese thinking that white faces are "exotic" is completely different from the "shame" argument you're making, which is ridiculous. The Japanese have a different idea of what it means to look Japanese. What reeks of racism is the idea that you get to choose what features Japanese consider to make themselves Japanese.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]Is it really that important? killu-later

Yes it is. When Asians are making nothing but White main characters, something is seriously wrong. Heck, they even make more Black characters than Asian

[QUOTE="killu-later"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]Is it really that important? campzor

Yes it is. When Asians are making nothing but White main characters, something is seriously wrong. Heck, they even make more Black characters than Asian

yes Final Fantasy games arent set in Japan, they are set in some fantasy land meaning they could've chosen any face and language. and guess what, they chose their own language but changed the face to Caucasian

Dynasty Warriors?

Vesica_Prime

Sengoku Basara and Samurai Warriors would fit, I guess. Though they're based on real people. Well some of them are. >.>

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="killu-later"]

Yes it is. When Asians are making nothing but White main characters, something is seriously wrong. Heck, they even make more Black characters than Asian

killu-later

yes Final Fantasy games arent set in Japan, they are set in some fantasy land meaning they could've chosen any face and language. and guess what, they chose their own language but changed the face to Caucasian

So you're saying that if Japanese people want to make games they can understand, the characters have to look Japanese?

Change their faces? Change them from what?

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="killu-later"]

Yes it is. When Asians are making nothing but White main characters, something is seriously wrong. Heck, they even make more Black characters than Asian

killu-later

yes Final Fantasy games arent set in Japan, they are set in some fantasy land meaning they could've chosen any face and language. and guess what, they chose their own language but changed the face to Caucasian

[QUOTE="killu-later"]

[QUOTE="campzor"] tekken........ Also maybe the games arent set in japan...hakanakumono

yes Final Fantasy games arent set in Japan, they are set in some fantasy land meaning they could've chosen any face and language. and guess what, they chose their own language but changed the face to Caucasian

So you're saying that if Japanese people want to make games they can understand, the characters have to look Japanese?

Change their faces? Change them from what?

No I already told you. Japanese can create whatever character they like, but when the Majority of them Create White faces only, people start to question why the lack of interest for Asian faces when they are Asian themselves? Is there something so wrong about having an Asian face that they ignore it altogether?

To be fair... when you think about it, some Japanese people don't look like your definition of "Japanese."

Maybe Final Fantasy characters and other Japanese games are inspired by guys like that? I'm just Saiyan.

But it seems like only Jpop stars look like "that." I've never seen any Asian guys like that walking around in America.

Most of the ones I see look like Bobby Lee lol. No offense.

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[QUOTE="killu-later"]

yes Final Fantasy games arent set in Japan, they are set in some fantasy land meaning they could've chosen any face and language. and guess what, they chose their own language but changed the face to Caucasian

killu-later

So you're saying that if Japanese people want to make games they can understand, the characters have to look Japanese?

Change their faces? Change them from what?

No I already told you. Japanese can create whatever character they like, but when the Majority of them Create White faces only, people start to question why the lack of interest for Asian faces when they are Asian themselves? Is there something so wrong about having an Asian face that they ignore it altogether?

But they don't create white faces only.

The JRPG genre is founded upon western fantasy. Western castles, dragons, knights, etc. For the Japanese people to borrow these ideas, it's only natural for them to put white faces on them. Japanese people in western knights and armor? A lot of westerners would find it silly and Japanese probably wouldn't think it was a natural fit either. What the Japanese do like to do is include minor characters or areas of the world that represent Japan. Like Yuffie in FF7, Shina in Tales of Symphonia, or Rem and Machina in FF Type-0. Then you have characters that just appear to be asian or Japanese for whatever reason like Shion and Jin Uzuki in Xenosaga or Rinoa in FF8. And finally you have the ambiguous characters that could be either or, like Tifa. In fact, you could argue that there's a level of racial ambiguity in many JRPG characters.

Most of the ones I see look like Bobby Lee lol. No offense.

Tikeio

Most people don't look like the ideals that cultures hold.

To be fair... when you think about it, some Japanese people don't look like your definition of "Japanese."

Maybe Final Fantasy characters and other Japanese games are inspired by guys like that? I'm just Saiyan.

But it seems like only Jpop stars look like "that." I've never seen any Asian guys like that walking around in America.

Most of the ones I see look like Bobby Lee lol. No offense.

Tikeio

Plastic Surgery is a Norm in Japan and is so Popular Thanks to the game Developers telling their own people that they must look white to succeed. So many Japanese guys in Japan go get their eyes and nose bigger to look more like their favorite Game and Anime characters to fit in. Plastic surgery is a Norm in Japan thats why you have Japanese folks with big eyes compared to Asian Americans who detest not getting plastic surgery because just like every other American, they'll get made fun of and called Michael Jackson. Thats why you see normal looking Asian people in America. Compared to the Big Eyed light skinned Anime looking Japanese people in Japan. All due to the japanese society Not accepting the Asian look, which shows very well in their games, movies and animes. Heck they have Japanese game shows that transform small eyed Japanese into Big eyed more beautiful people, so to say. Trust me, Im Asian and I know very well that few pure blood natural Asian have those Anime big eyes

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

To be fair... when you think about it, some Japanese people don't look like your definition of "Japanese."

Maybe Final Fantasy characters and other Japanese games are inspired by guys like that? I'm just Saiyan.

But it seems like only Jpop stars look like "that." I've never seen any Asian guys like that walking around in America.

Most of the ones I see look like Bobby Lee lol. No offense.

killu-later

Plastic Surgery is a Norm in Japan and is so Popular Thanks to the game Developers telling their own people that they must look white to succeed. So many Japanese guys in Japan go get their eyes and nose bigger to look more like their favorite Game and Anime characters to fit in. Plastic surgery is a Norm in Japan thats why you have Japanese folks with big eyes compared to Asian Americans who detest not getting plastic surgery because just like every other American, they'll get made fun of and called Michael Jackson. Thats why you see normal looking Asian people in America. Compared to the Big Eyed light skinned Anime looking Japanese people in Japan. All due to the japanese society Not accepting the Asian look, which shows very well in their games, movies and animes

The surgery does exist, but it is not as commonplace as you think. This perceived "all the Japanese are trying to look white" idea is based in racism. It's based on the idea that the assumption that when the Japanese alter their appearance or dye their hair it's to be taken as a form of flattery. There are Japanese people with naturally "big" eyes. Gackt is a mess of plastic surgery though.

Here is an example of a Japanese looking person in a Final Fantasy game:

For reference, this is a Japanese person (who did not get surgery):

Plastic Surgery is a Norm in Japan and is so Popular Thanks to the game Developers telling their own people that they must look white to succeed. So many Japanese guys in Japan go get their eyes and nose bigger to look more like their favorite Game and Anime characters to fit in. Plastic surgery is a Norm in Japan thats why you have Japanese folks with big eyes compared to Asian Americans who detest not getting plastic surgery because just like every other American, they'll get made fun of and called Michael Jackson. Thats why you see normal looking Asian people in America. Compared to the Big Eyed light skinned Anime looking Japanese people in Japan. All due to the japanese society Not accepting the Asian look, which shows very well in their games, movies and animes. Heck they have Japanese game shows that transform small eyed Japanese into Big eyed more beautiful people, so to say. Trust me, Im Asian and I know very well that few pure blood natural Asian have those Anime big eyes

killu-later

[QUOTE="killu-later"]

Plastic Surgery is a Norm in Japan and is so Popular Thanks to the game Developers telling their own people that they must look white to succeed. So many Japanese guys in Japan go get their eyes and nose bigger to look more like their favorite Game and Anime characters to fit in. Plastic surgery is a Norm in Japan thats why you have Japanese folks with big eyes compared to Asian Americans who detest not getting plastic surgery because just like every other American, they'll get made fun of and called Michael Jackson. Thats why you see normal looking Asian people in America. Compared to the Big Eyed light skinned Anime looking Japanese people in Japan. All due to the japanese society Not accepting the Asian look, which shows very well in their games, movies and animes. Heck they have Japanese game shows that transform small eyed Japanese into Big eyed more beautiful people, so to say. Trust me, Im Asian and I know very well that few pure blood natural Asian have those Anime big eyes

LeonSykes10

He's subscribing to the "Asian people should only look what I think asian looks like" type of racism. "Gasp, asian people dying their hair!? They're denying their existence!" BS.

[QUOTE="LeonSykes10"][QUOTE="killu-later"]

Plastic Surgery is a Norm in Japan and is so Popular Thanks to the game Developers telling their own people that they must look white to succeed. So many Japanese guys in Japan go get their eyes and nose bigger to look more like their favorite Game and Anime characters to fit in. Plastic surgery is a Norm in Japan thats why you have Japanese folks with big eyes compared to Asian Americans who detest not getting plastic surgery because just like every other American, they'll get made fun of and called Michael Jackson. Thats why you see normal looking Asian people in America. Compared to the Big Eyed light skinned Anime looking Japanese people in Japan. All due to the japanese society Not accepting the Asian look, which shows very well in their games, movies and animes. Heck they have Japanese game shows that transform small eyed Japanese into Big eyed more beautiful people, so to say. Trust me, Im Asian and I know very well that few pure blood natural Asian have those Anime big eyes

hakanakumono

He's subscribing to the "Asian people should only look what I think asian looks like" type of racism. "Gasp, asian people dying their hair!? They're denying their existence!" BS.

no im not even saying that Asians cant dye their hair and stuff or they're trying to be white, thats all completely different stereotypes. But it is true that only mostly Big eyed Japanese make it big in films and TV dramas, shows, etc. Same exact thing for games, developers want Big eyed beautiful light skinned characters. All these pressure from the japanese media puts a very wrong image on the Japanese society. I mean it's just like Plastic surgery in America but except American have views against plastic surgery, Japan dont seem to have any views against it and it seems almost like they urge people to get plastic surgery to look like celebrities on screen. If you've been to Japan, you would know that plastic surgery is a common practice they call "Beauty". to them it's simply getting beautiful, nothing negative

[QUOTE="LeonSykes10"][QUOTE="killu-later"]

Plastic Surgery is a Norm in Japan and is so Popular Thanks to the game Developers telling their own people that they must look white to succeed. So many Japanese guys in Japan go get their eyes and nose bigger to look more like their favorite Game and Anime characters to fit in. Plastic surgery is a Norm in Japan thats why you have Japanese folks with big eyes compared to Asian Americans who detest not getting plastic surgery because just like every other American, they'll get made fun of and called Michael Jackson. Thats why you see normal looking Asian people in America. Compared to the Big Eyed light skinned Anime looking Japanese people in Japan. All due to the japanese society Not accepting the Asian look, which shows very well in their games, movies and animes. Heck they have Japanese game shows that transform small eyed Japanese into Big eyed more beautiful people, so to say. Trust me, Im Asian and I know very well that few pure blood natural Asian have those Anime big eyes

hakanakumono

He's subscribing to the "Asian people should only look what I think asian looks like" type of racism. "Gasp, asian people dying their hair!? They're denying their existence!" BS.

obviously you are not asian and know nothing about being an Asian person where even the people we look up to (Asian devs) tell us that our faces wont sell on the big screen so we must change it to something that Will sell. Only the face, thelanguage is fine but only the face is flawed

no im not even saying that Asians cant dye their hair and stuff or they're trying to be white, thats all completely different stereotypes. But it is true that only mostly Big eyed Japanese make it big in films and TV dramas, shows, etc. Same exact thing for games, developers want Big eyed beautiful light skinned characters. All these pressure from the japanese media puts a very wrong image on the Japanese society. I mean it's just like Plastic surgery in America but except American have views against plastic surgery, Japan dont seem to have any views against it and it seems almost like they urge people to get plastic surgery to look like celebrities on screen. If you've been to Japan, you would know that plastic surgery is a common practice they call "Beauty". to them it's simply getting beautiful, nothing negative

killu-later

Japanese have desired white skin since before they even knew white people existed. Japanese like big eyes, but there are Japanese people with big eyes.

People all over the world idealize features that areuncommon. When Japanese people draw characters, they design them to fit ideals not to fit norms.

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[QUOTE="LeonSykes10"] You're just a simple minded DUMBASS tc! thanks to the new tou once again.. lolkillu-later

He's subscribing to the "Asian people should only look what I think asian looks like" type of racism. "Gasp, asian people dying their hair!? They're denying their existence!" BS.

obviously you are not asian and know nothing about being an Asian person where even the people we look up to (Asian devs) tell us that our faces wont sell on the big screen so we must change it to something that Will sell. Only the face, thelanguage is fine but only the face is flawed

The problem of having "asian people on screen" is more of an American problem ...

i dont understand how this is an issue. i think the devs should be able to make their characters look however they want without getting this kind of insecure racial bullcrap that people are making into an issue just for the sake of making it an issue. having white looking characters in japanese games hurts nobody.

i dont understand how this is an issue. i think the devs should be able to make their characters look however they want without getting this kind of insecure racial bullcrap that people are making into an issue just for the sake of making it an issue. having white looking characters in japanese games hurts nobody.

taterfrickintot

having white characters in Japanese games hurt nobody, But it starts hurting when Japanese make the majority of their characters white. Questions arise as to why that lack of Japanese characters? I mean the language is Japanse, why the lack of japanese faces?

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

i dont understand how this is an issue. i think the devs should be able to make their characters look however they want without getting this kind of insecure racial bullcrap that people are making into an issue just for the sake of making it an issue. having white looking characters in japanese games hurts nobody.

killu-later

having white characters in Japanese games hurt nobody, But it starts hurting when Japanese make the majority of their characters white. Questions arise as to why that lack of Japanese characters? I mean the language is Japanse, why the lack of japanese faces?

Language doesn't have anything to do with the faces. And some Japanese games do use English for white faces. Silent Hill and Resident Evil are examples of that.

Damn TC, judging from your posts it's clear that you want an Asian equivalent of Tyler Perry to develop Japanese games. :lol:

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[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

i dont understand how this is an issue. i think the devs should be able to make their characters look however they want without getting this kind of insecure racial bullcrap that people are making into an issue just for the sake of making it an issue. having white looking characters in japanese games hurts nobody.

hakanakumono

having white characters in Japanese games hurt nobody, But it starts hurting when Japanese make the majority of their characters white. Questions arise as to why that lack of Japanese characters? I mean the language is Japanse, why the lack of japanese faces?

Language doesn't have anything to do with the faces. And some Japanese games do use English for white faces. Silent Hill and Resident Evil are examples of that.

you are talking some, I am talking the majority or japanese games playing yellow face. Even long before Enlish + White faces (appealing to the west), the Japanese have been doing Japanese language + White faces for ages. obviously because they see white faces as better than their Asian faces

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"]

having white characters in Japanese games hurt nobody, But it starts hurting when Japanese make the majority of their characters white. Questions arise as to why that lack of Japanese characters? I mean the language is Japanse, why the lack of japanese faces?

killu-later

Language doesn't have anything to do with the faces. And some Japanese games do use English for white faces. Silent Hill and Resident Evil are examples of that.

you are talking some, I am talking the majority or japanese games playing yellow face. Even long before Enlish + White faces (appealing to the west), the Japanese have been doing Japanese language + White faces for ages. obviously because they see white faces as better than their Asian faces

I still don't understand your obsession with the language part of this. If it's a Japanese game, shoudln't the characters be expected to speak Japanese given that the game is written in Japanese for Japanese audiences?

No, not obviously. :roll:

Shoguna Total War

Shoguna Total War

Heyhuub

Is that really a Japanese developed game though?

They have other strategy games, like Nobunaga's Ambition.

And how many games are their with black people or Tv shows/movies where we aren't the usual stereotypes :evil:

[QUOTE="killu-later"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Language doesn't have anything to do with the faces. And some Japanese games do use English for white faces. Silent Hill and Resident Evil are examples of that.

hakanakumono

you are talking some, I am talking the majority or japanese games playing yellow face. Even long before Enlish + White faces (appealing to the west), the Japanese have been doing Japanese language + White faces for ages. obviously because they see white faces as better than their Asian faces

I still don't understand your obsession with the language part of this. If it's a Japanese game, shoudln't the characters be expected to speak Japanese given that the game is written in Japanese for Japanese audiences?

No, not obviously. :roll:

No need arguing anymore with you. The Japanese game developers (the whole Japanse Media itself) obviously have issues with self identification. the should rather show a Pikachu looking cartoon on screen than to show an Asian face. You can clealy see this in all their games, anime, movies.

And how many games are their with black people or Tv shows/movies where we aren't the usual stereotypes :evil:

NoodleFighter

very Big difference. Black stereotypes are Not made by Black people.

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[QUOTE="killu-later"]

you are talking some, I am talking the majority or japanese games playing yellow face. Even long before Enlish + White faces (appealing to the west), the Japanese have been doing Japanese language + White faces for ages. obviously because they see white faces as better than their Asian faces

killu-later

I still don't understand your obsession with the language part of this. If it's a Japanese game, shoudln't the characters be expected to speak Japanese given that the game is written in Japanese for Japanese audiences?

No, not obviously. :roll:

No need arguing anymore with you. The Japanese game developers (the whole Japanse Media itself) obviously have issues with self identification. the should rather show a Pikachu looking cartoon on screen than to show an Asian face. You can clealy see this in all their games, anime, movies.

So now you think that Japanese people only watch anime now? Lol, you do realize that there's a healthy stream of Japanese and now Korean dramas on Japanese television right? No, of course you don't, because you're incredibly ignorant.

Edit: Wait, movies? Their movies have Japanese people. :? I sincerely hope that you're trolling.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I still don't understand your obsession with the language part of this. If it's a Japanese game, shoudln't the characters be expected to speak Japanese given that the game is written in Japanese for Japanese audiences?

No, not obviously. :roll:

hakanakumono

No need arguing anymore with you. The Japanese game developers (the whole Japanse Media itself) obviously have issues with self identification. the should rather show a Pikachu looking cartoon on screen than to show an Asian face. You can clealy see this in all their games, anime, movies.

So now you think that Japanese people only watch anime now? Lol, you do realize that there's a healthy stream of Japanese and now Korean dramas on Japanese television right? No, of course you don't, because you're incredibly ignorant.

Edit: Wait, movies? Their movies have Japanese people. :? I sincerely hope that you're trolling.

you are the ignorant one here because you have read me write multiple times Japanese games, anime and Movies (japanese media). yet you just keep repeating yourself and finding ways to make you look more ignorant and you are very good at it. bye

every time i play a war game i always see my people as the evil people and the typical americans kill us all off splerting racial terms and such.how do you think i feel?

I'm Asian and I think you just disgraced the Asian Sensation :x

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Who cares? frankly even then I can see the japanese in a lot of Eastern designed characters. I'm black, I rarely play games with interesting black protagonists. So what? This is a video game, not a "equality in everything" movement. Please, get over it.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Equality should be something we all strive for. We are all humans and deserve equal respect. If you ignore a problem it will not go away. Being militant in getting more equality in gaming is much better than sweeping the racism and sexism in gaming under the rug.

With anime style aesthetics they might not look Japanese to you, but they certainly are...take for instance the characters on the Simpsons, we all intuitively know that the yellow characters are in fact...white.

All I have to say to people who feel 'affected' by these examples of beauty is to go out and get higher self-esteem. We all know you wouldn't be complaining if you happened to match that image.

I think the real issue is that Japanese developers don't make many games set in the real world/realish worlds compared to their western counterparts.