Year to year sales compared for every system for Jan to June (NPD)

I give credit to Sony for a last gen system, current gen, and a handheld. It's just to bad since sells are low, it automatically means all three are horrible to own.

Fanboy logic shows that since the best system is based on sales, we should sell our 360s & PS3s to purchase Wiis. It makes since because you shouldn't need another gaming system if you already own the best selling one.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

This is getting annoying. Cows cry about sales and discredit them, lemmings brag etc. Can we discuss the numbers people? Maybe its time for me to make a thread on the importance of sales again.

ActicEdge

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26776720

I have this from when I first joined. I'll have to add to it though to make a serious point.

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

sales are important to manufacturers but not to us gamerseven if the game doesn't have a sequel the first game is still on the market and still better and rated higher than the competition games.

I thought you guys said Little Big Planet is a sales flop and Resistance ? so why does both those games have a sequel and LBP is even getting a psp game ?dsmccracken

But poor sales lead to several things that ARE important to gamers: continued support and high quality exclusives. No one wants the next Dreamcast or original Xbox, in regards to the former. And for the latter: wouldn't you want FFXIII (and the like) to still be exclusive to the PS3? By show of hands, who here believes that FFXIII would still have gone multiplat if the PS3 were selling like the Wii is?

Tell AdobeArtist and foxhound_fox that.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] please do, and add pictures to illustrate the point. surrealnumber5

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26776720

I have this from when I first joined. I'll have to add to it though to make a serious point.

The ammo I have to shut people up is ridiculous. Its just finding the time to put it all into a thread. It would take a few hours. Plus this is from when I was a new poster.

Fanboy logic shows that since the best system is based on sales, we should sell our 360s & PS3s to purchase Wiis. It makes since because you shouldn't need another gaming system if you already own the best selling one.

lvgaming

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26776720

I have this from when I first joined. I'll have to add to it though to make a serious point.ActicEdge

not bad, but you could bring up how sales leads to trends, halo on the xbox and some others like splinter cell and the massive money pulled by PC shooters last generation spawned all of the new IP shooters this generation for better or worse the developers wanted to follow the gaming trend, and sony has even made it their primary demographic to target. you may also want to add something shiny to your new OP if you do make the thread Education [A process] which makes one rogue cleverer than another. Oscar Wilde that last bit is just a quote i wanted to use in another thread that just got locked

The ammo I have to shut people up is ridiculous. Its just finding the time to put it all into a thread. It would take a few hours. Plus this is from when I was a new poster.

Careful, we're on System Wars. Attention spans are short and whining is imminent!

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

STRETCH-E

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

JediRiff

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

STRETCH-E

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

blue_hazy_basic

He doesnt have one.

Notice the one sentence response.

[QUOTE="lvgaming"]

Fanboy logic shows that since the best system is based on sales, we should sell our 360s & PS3s to purchase Wiis. It makes since because you shouldn't need another gaming system if you already own the best selling one.

surrealnumber5

Dang, I should sell that Wii my girlfriend has that I purchased so I can be that person your talking about.

And people think Activision is just bluffing. The PSP and the PS3 both sold at least 30% less then they did the year earlier. I would be pretty worried also spending money on development for a system that is harder and more costly to develop for and with sales declining 30%. Also lets face it the PS3 is not steller in the software dept either sales wise.rybe1025

This is the first six months of this year compared to the first six months last year (NPD)

The 360 and the DS are the only systems to see growth. The 360 seeing a 21% increase.

The Wii while seeing a decrease in numbers it is still the clear leader in the consoles.

Sony looking bad all around. The PS3 seeing a 30% decrease a large decline in sales.

Link

rybe1025

Its a given that PS3 sales declined for these reasons.

Last year, first half.

• Sony won BR war in Jan.
• the $100 price cut was still in effect.
• in June 12, there was this little game called MGS4 came out.

This year, first half.

• they have Nothing.

Its a given that 360 sales should increase because.

Last year, first half.

• They had nothing.

This year, first half.

• the $50 price cut is still in effect.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]And people think Activision is just bluffing. The PSP and the PS3 both sold at least 30% less then they did the year earlier. I would be pretty worried also spending money on development for a system that is harder and more costly to develop for and with sales declining 30%. Also lets face it the PS3 is not steller in the software dept either sales wise.Chutebox

I know they're bluffing but telling me that people who think they maight be serious are hoping is just empty words. No one has any proof that the aren't telling the truth the same way we can't prove they are lying.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

This is the first six months of this year compared to the first six months last year (NPD)

The 360 and the DS are the only systems to see growth. The 360 seeing a 21% increase.

The Wii while seeing a decrease in numbers it is still the clear leader in the consoles.

Sony looking bad all around. The PS3 seeing a 30% decrease a large decline in sales.

Link

HAZE-Unit

Its a given that PS3 sales declined for these reasons.

Last year, first half.

• Sony won BR war in Jan.
• the $100 price cut was still in effect.
• in June 12, there was this little game called MGS4 came out.

This year, first half.

• they have Nothing.

Its a given that 360 should increase because.

Last year, first half.

• They had nothing.

This year, first half.

• the $50 price cut is still in effect.

Acitic that thread of yours blew my mind. Good job man.

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

STRETCH-E

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

This is the first six months of this year compared to the first six months last year (NPD)

The 360 and the DS are the only systems to see growth. The 360 seeing a 21% increase.

The Wii while seeing a decrease in numbers it is still the clear leader in the consoles.

Sony looking bad all around. The PS3 seeing a 30% decrease a large decline in sales.

Link

surrealnumber5

Its a given that PS3 sales declined for these reasons.

Last year, first half.

• Sony won BR war in Jan.
• the $100 price cut was still in effect.
• in June 12, there was this little game called MGS4 came out.

This year, first half.

• they have Nothing.

Its a given that 360 should increase because.

Last year, first half.

• They had nothing.

This year, first half.

• the $50 price cut is still in effect.

Thats games talk, we are talking sales wise.

The great games released this first half for PS3 unfortunately didn't have half of the MGS4 marketing.

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

sargentbotk

lol, this comment made me laugh.. Nice.

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

sargentbotk

The userbase in NA is almost half of the 360 userbase so what do you expect?

Im going to start acampaign gonna be called "THINK WORLDWIDE" lol.

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

HAZE-Unit

The userbase in NA is almost half of the 360 userbase so what do you expect?

Im going to start acampaign gonna be called "THINK WORLDWIDE" lol.

The NA userbase is Sony's fault, its not an excuse. The userbase isn't something that can be hidden behind on an issue like this. ITs Sony's job to increase the user base. if they don't its not our problem.

You see, it's things like this that convince me that the PS3 is Sony's final console. If I'm the head of Sony's gaming division, I look at that graph once, turn my resignation in to Stringer, and come to the realization that the future of gaming is about Nintendo, Microsoft, and Apple.

How they can expect to remain relevant for even a few more months is beyond me.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Yawn another sales thread that doesn't affect me. Man who honestly cares. What are you trying to prove. that 360 is better than PS3?

lemmings won't ever stop with sales.

lol every conversation about games, graphics etc will some way or another end up about sales.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"]Lol, and yet, cows barely buy them.

ActicEdge

The userbase in NA is almost half of the 360 userbase so what do you expect?

Im going to start acampaign gonna be called "THINK WORLDWIDE" lol.

The NA userbase is Sony's fault, its not an excuse. The userbase isn't something that can be hidden behind on an issue like this. ITs Sony's job to increase the user base. if they don't its not our problem.

So you expect PS3 exclusives and multiplats to sell as much as the 360 in NA despite having almost half the userbase?

I think you are asking for the impossible.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

The userbase in NA is almost half of the 360 userbase so what do you expect?

Im going to start acampaign gonna be called "THINK WORLDWIDE" lol.

HAZE-Unit

The NA userbase is Sony's fault, its not an excuse. The userbase isn't something that can be hidden behind on an issue like this. ITs Sony's job to increase the user base. if they don't its not our problem.

So you expect PS3 exclusives and multiplats to sell as much as the 360 in NA despite having almost half the userbase?

I think you are asking for the impossible.

Basically I'm saying its not possible and that's Sony's fault. I'm saying people shouldn't give them a break for being benhind becauseits their own fault.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

The userbase in NA is almost half of the 360 userbase so what do you expect?

Im going to start acampaign gonna be called "THINK WORLDWIDE" lol.

HAZE-Unit

The NA userbase is Sony's fault, its not an excuse. The userbase isn't something that can be hidden behind on an issue like this. ITs Sony's job to increase the user base. if they don't its not our problem.

So you expect PS3 exclusives and multiplats to sell as much as the 360 in NA despite having almost half the userbase?

I think you are asking for the impossible.

NPD isnt the world. North America alone takes up so much of the 360 fan/userbase.

NPD isnt the world. North America alone takes up so much of the 360 fan/userbase.

idontbeliveit

Heh. The 360 is in the exact middle between the Nintendo and PS consoles. :P

NPD isnt the world. North America alone takes up so much of the 360 fan/userbase.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="idontbeliveit"]

NPD isnt the world. North America alone takes up so much of the 360 fan/userbase.

idontbeliveit

NPD isnt the world. North America alone takes up so much of the 360 fan/userbase.

What Sony needs to do is to stop releasing so many mature AAAE titles. They need system sellers that appeal to a large audience.

What Sony needs to do is to stop releasing so many mature AAAE titles. They need system sellers that appeal to a large audience.

Longcat2

GTA is mature and sold milions upon millions of copies. Its not the rating, its the perception and taste of the userbase that matter along with providing captivating software to the consumer. Sony games don't do that immediately which is why their sales are perceived even more poor than they actually are. The next 2 years will decide everything for the rest of the gen.

What Sony needs to do is to stop releasing so many mature AAAE titles. They need system sellers that appeal to a large audience.

Longcat2

[QUOTE="Longcat2"]

What Sony needs to do is to stop releasing so many mature AAAE titles. They need system sellers that appeal to a large audience.

ActicEdge

GTA is mature and sold milions upon millions of copies. Its not the rating, its the perception and taste of the userbase that matter along with providing captivating software to the consumer. Sony games don't do that immediately which is why their sales are perceived even more poor than they actually are. The next 2 years will decide everything for the rest of the gen.

Clearly GTA IV didn't help the PS3, because it wasn't exclusive. If GTA IV was released as a PS3 exclusive then the sales would increase a lot.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Longcat2"]

What Sony needs to do is to stop releasing so many mature AAAE titles. They need system sellers that appeal to a large audience.

Longcat2

GTA is mature and sold milions upon millions of copies. Its not the rating, its the perception and taste of the userbase that matter along with providing captivating software to the consumer. Sony games don't do that immediately which is why their sales are perceived even more poor than they actually are. The next 2 years will decide everything for the rest of the gen.

Clearly GTA IV didn't help the PS3, because it wasn't exclusive. If GTA IV was released as a PS3 exclusive then the sales would increase a lot.

Notice how there is no 4 on the GTA? That's because I wasn't refering to GTA4. I was refering to the GTA's before 4.

[QUOTE="Longcat2"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

GTA is mature and sold milions upon millions of copies. Its not the rating, its the perception and taste of the userbase that matter along with providing captivating software to the consumer. Sony games don't do that immediately which is why their sales are perceived even more poor than they actually are. The next 2 years will decide everything for the rest of the gen.

ActicEdge

Clearly GTA IV didn't help the PS3, because it wasn't exclusive. If GTA IV was released as a PS3 exclusive then the sales would increase a lot.

Notice how there is no 4 on the GTA? That's because I wasn't refering to GTA4. I was refering to the GTA's before 4.

Yeah but we're talking about PS3 in this thread.

NPD isnt the world. North America alone takes up so much of the 360 fan/userbase.

Yet the PS3 has better games in 09. Go figure.

STRETCH-E

that's opinion. The chart is fact.

Hmm...Looks like Sony is riding this out until the last minute lol. The PS3's sales trend will continue to drop if there isn't another price drop. I'm eager to see how this continues to play out.Episode_Eve

It's pretty obvious how it's going to play out. PS3 will continue to slide further into irrelevance. By this time next year, most developers will have pulled suppoert for it. There won't be a PS4.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]Hmm...Looks like Sony is riding this out until the last minute lol. The PS3's sales trend will continue to drop if there isn't another price drop. I'm eager to see how this continues to play out.dereknippl-e

It's pretty obvious how it's going to play out. PS3 will continue to slide further into irrelevance. By this time next year, most developers will have pulled suppoert for it. There won't be a PS4.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

This is the first six months of this year compared to the first six months last year (NPD)

The 360 and the DS are the only systems to see growth. The 360 seeing a 21% increase.

The Wii while seeing a decrease in numbers it is still the clear leader in the consoles.

Sony looking bad all around. The PS3 seeing a 30% decrease a large decline in sales.

Link

surrealnumber5

Its a given that PS3 sales declined for these reasons.

Last year, first half.

• Sony won BR war in Jan.
• the $100 price cut was still in effect.
• in June 12, there was this little game called MGS4 came out.

This year, first half.

• they have Nothing.

Its a given that 360 should increase because.

Last year, first half.

• They had nothing.

This year, first half.

• the $50 price cut is still in effect.