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#1 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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i will ask some of you older ps3 fans, that have gamed since the begining, what did you first play on before playstation ever existed, if you gamed most probably an 8-bit system, now were those so pretty to watch, no, but then why did you play......(cur jepordy theame)...times up, if you diden't get in in time, the awnser is what is gameplay, thats right, those who have been in the buisness since B8B (before 8 bit) and up to 16 bit know that what kept players captivated was gameplay.

so older playstation gamers, ask yourself, sony need to get in shape and start caring more about gameplay than grafics, or be left behind.

*pulls out flame sheild*

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#2 AYComputer
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You're winner!eleven
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#3 TMontana1004
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That just about sums it up. Just because Killzone 2 has good lighting doesn't mean it's gonna be the killer app (it has no chance anyway). Well done.
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#4 agentfred
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So you say, but if I showed you a Wii game that looked on par with PS3 games, how many dozens of threads claiming "pwnage" would you make?

I was told that damage modeling didn't matter in racing sims, until GT5 confirmed it.

What you say, and what you believe are two completely different things.

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um, all your base are belong to us?
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#6 Shawtymann
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graphics do matter. gameplay and fun factor matters more
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So you say, but if I showed you a Wii game that looked on par with PS3 games, how many dozens of threads claiming "pwnage" would you make?

I was told that damage modeling didn't matter in racing sims, until GT5 confirmed it.

What you say, and what you believe are two completely different things.

agentfred

if the gameplay sucked i wouldn't make any, don't assume, you make an ass out of u, not me

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#8 realistgamer
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gameplay>graphics always!

now don't get me wrong i love to see a beautiful game but whats that when u don't even enjoy playing it, come on cows think about it.

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#9 Shawtymann
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why are you making this argument toward cows only? lemmings talk about graphics too
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#10 Packfan104L4
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I've played PS3 games plenty of times. The graphics are awesome but the gameplay blows. I'll take ported GC games on the Wii with awesome gameplay anyday
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#11 TMontana1004
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^^ not as much because cows rely on good graphics because they have crap games out now.
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#12 TMontana1004
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^^ not as much because cows rely on good graphics because they have crap games out now.TMontana1004

I meant to quote Shawtymann my bad

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#13 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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why are you making this argument toward cows only? lemmings talk about graphics tooShawtymann
lemmings arn't as bad however, and most 360 games go have gameplay to rival nintendos, i think of it this way

sony=way to foucused on grafics, MS= balenced but could be better, nintendo=focus on gameplay but grafics need a little bit of work.

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We played the games back then because they were the best available.We will do the same this generation. Graphics are a part of games and everyone wants great looking games so they will always be important.

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#15 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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We played the games back then because they were the best available.We will do the same this generation. Graphics are a part of games and everyone wants great looking games so they will always be important.

Nike_Air
somebody diden't read past the 1st scentance... why were you a gamer if you diden't like the grafics, yes grafics are a part but not a big part at all.
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#16 iamshivy
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I've played PS3 games plenty of times. The graphics are awesome but the gameplay blows. I'll take ported GC games on the Wii with awesome gameplay anydayPackfan104L4
plz tell me what game u played. was it that gundam wing game on launch......??????
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#17 agentfred
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i will ask some of you older ps3 fans, that have gamed since the begining, what did you first play on before playstation ever existed, if you gamed most probably an 8-bit system, now were those so pretty to watch, no, but then why did you play......

darkspineslayer

Graphical quality is relative to standards and expectations. I remember MGS being described as beautiful, we may not think so today, but that's because standards have advanced. Crysis looks jaw dropping, but in ten years we'll be laughing at Crysis and what we thought looked good. So, yes, those games were pretty to watch, and they had good gameplay to boot, which is the ideal solution. Something you and many other Nintendo fanboys seem to be incapable of understanding.

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[QUOTE="Shawtymann"]why are you making this argument toward cows only? lemmings talk about graphics toodarkspineslayer

lemmings arn't as bad however, and most 360 games go have gameplay to rival nintendos, i think of it this way

sony=way to foucused on grafics, MS= balenced but could be better, nintendo=focus on gameplay but grafics need a little bit of work.

First off, graphics are the first thing you notice when you start the game. Second, we are in the HD era, like it or not, and Nintendo isn't with it. And third, if Nintendo's focus is on gameplay, then explain to me why the majority of games on the DS and especially the Wii, are total crap? Graphics fall second to gameplay, that is true, but Nintendo is dropping the ball big time on both fronts.
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[QUOTE="Shawtymann"]why are you making this argument toward cows only? lemmings talk about graphics toodarkspineslayer

lemmings arn't as bad however, and most 360 games go have gameplay to rival nintendos, i think of it this way

sony=way to foucused on grafics, MS= balenced but could be better, nintendo=focus on gameplay but grafics need a little bit of work.

First off.. when SNES came out.. i thought those were awesome graphics.. same with PSone, and PS2. I don't really understand this thread i guess.

lemmings aren't as bad? there is a thread everyday about how gears is still the best game graphically. Same with Hermits about Crysis. Everyone cares about graphics. Even the Wii is an improvement in graphics form the GC... but in that case it doesn't matter?

what???

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#20 Apathetic-Irony
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Unless the graphics limitations of a console can hold it back, no -- they do not matter. Wii, unfortunitely, is held back a bit when it comes to graphics.

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I don't even see why Wii is involved in system wars. It is a completely inferior gaming machine when compared to the 360 and the PS3. It is a damn good party system* and greatly appeals to the mass market, but I doubt many hardcore gamers will give it a nice following, save your average Nintenboys.

* Unless you don't have any co-ed parties. *cough 90% of systemwars *cough*

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#21 Timstuff
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#22 DeathIsARight
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You lost me at the bad spelling. :roll: And those systems had awesome graphics at the time, so you fail.
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#23 iamshivy
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um buddy to say graphics dont have a big part to do with video games, is just stupid. an saying ps3 game play isnt fun is also. ya some games are crap while others are good that goes for ever console. example for the ps3 lair -- crap. warhawk-- awesome... there im done with this bash the ps3 because i dont own one thread. good day
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#24 CrazyCarter
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when will these threads end? :evil: graphics do matter. gameplay matters. sound matters. everything matters to make a great game. this is 2007. we shouldn't have to choose between the factors that make games great. we can have it all.
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#25 sam890
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Im Guessing an wii fan made this thread :roll:
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="Shawtymann"]why are you making this argument toward cows only? lemmings talk about graphics tooxboxdevil

lemmings arn't as bad however, and most 360 games go have gameplay to rival nintendos, i think of it this way

sony=way to foucused on grafics, MS= balenced but could be better, nintendo=focus on gameplay but grafics need a little bit of work.

First off, graphics are the first thing you notice when you start the game*so*. Second, we are in the HD era, like it or not, and Nintendo isn't with it. *HD tvs arn't widely avalible and cheap, the wii has hd cables for those who have the TV, but its made so everyone can take advantage of its full capbilitys*And third, if Nintendo's focus is on gameplay, then explain to me why the majority of games on the DS and especially the Wii, are total crap? *because nintendo can't controlwhat 3rdpartys do after they have development rights, look at 1st party games and tell me the gameplay has been rated sucky*Graphics fall second to gameplay, that is true, but Nintendo is dropping the ball big time on both fronts.

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#27 DeathIsARight
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Im Guessing an wii fan made this thread :roll:sam890

And we have a winner! The only people who make these threads are Wii owners. Lemmings and Cows don't because we have good graphics. ;)

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[QUOTE="xboxdevil"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="Shawtymann"]why are you making this argument toward cows only? lemmings talk about graphics toodarkspineslayer

lemmings arn't as bad however, and most 360 games go have gameplay to rival nintendos, i think of it this way

sony=way to foucused on grafics, MS= balenced but could be better, nintendo=focus on gameplay but grafics need a little bit of work.

First off, graphics are the first thing you notice when you start the game*so*. Second, we are in the HD era, like it or not, and Nintendo isn't with it. *HD tvs arn't widely avalible and cheap, the wii has hd cables for those who have the TV, but its made so everyone can take advantage of its full capbilitys*And third, if Nintendo's focus is on gameplay, then explain to me why the majority of games on the DS and especially the Wii, are total crap? *because nintendo can't controlwhat 3rdpartys do after they have development rights, look at 1st party games and tell me the gameplay has been rated sucky*Graphics fall second to gameplay, that is true, but Nintendo is dropping the ball big time on both fronts.

Could'nt help but notice you couldn't argue about Nintendo dropping the ball. And you still need spellcheck, fanboy.:lol:
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#29 AnFangs_Endes
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Just gonna step in here..

Hey TC your right Graphics don't always matter; case in point:

teh 2d!

teh 2d!

teh 2d!

HLO THAR! echocrome

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#30 funnymario
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I'm sure you said the same thing about spelling as a child :?

But, that's your (and apparently other people's) opinion. IMO, graphics matter. Maybe not as much as the gameplay aspects, but graphics help the experience.

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if sick of playstation fanboys comming up to me and saying "well ps3 may not have bigger titles than the 360 NOW but atleast the graphics blow it away"..........no they do not. I played my xbox360 and my friends PS3 on his 1080p HDTV and the ps3 was better but the 360 was still amazing.

theres not as noticable as a diffrence in graphics between the systems

Wii is another story that i wont dare to touch

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#32 ZanuffC
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Best argument ever, if we have gameplay, why do you need graphics?

Unfortunately, it is true that more power, can generatre more and new kinds of gameplay, better physics, AI, etc, can make games more fun too and add to the gameplay, this is true for 360, PC and PS3, they have the potential for great gameplay and graphics.

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#33 clone01
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="xboxdevil"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="Shawtymann"]why are you making this argument toward cows only? lemmings talk about graphics tooxboxdevil

lemmings arn't as bad however, and most 360 games go have gameplay to rival nintendos, i think of it this way

sony=way to foucused on grafics, MS= balenced but could be better, nintendo=focus on gameplay but grafics need a little bit of work.

First off, graphics are the first thing you notice when you start the game*so*. Second, we are in the HD era, like it or not, and Nintendo isn't with it. *HD tvs arn't widely avalible and cheap, the wii has hd cables for those who have the TV, but its made so everyone can take advantage of its full capbilitys*And third, if Nintendo's focus is on gameplay, then explain to me why the majority of games on the DS and especially the Wii, are total crap? *because nintendo can't controlwhat 3rdpartys do after they have development rights, look at 1st party games and tell me the gameplay has been rated sucky*Graphics fall second to gameplay, that is true, but Nintendo is dropping the ball big time on both fronts.

Could'nt help but notice you couldn't argue about Nintendo dropping the ball. And you still need spellcheck, fanboy.:lol:

how did nintendo drop the ball? they're killing both the PS3 and 360 in sales. and before you label me fanboy, know that i own a 360 and a Wii, and will soon own a PS3 (waiting for MGS4). stop the nintendo hate, just makes you look silly.

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#34 clone01
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if sick of playstation fanboys comming up to me and saying "well ps3 may not have bigger titles than the 360 NOW but atleast the graphics blow it away"..........no they do not. I played my xbox360 and my friends PS3 on his 1080p HDTV and the ps3 was better but the 360 was still amazing.

theres not as noticable as a diffrence in graphics between the systems

Wii is another story that i wont dare to touch

Raider47

i have yet to see a definitive difference between 360 and PS3. maybe GT5, but its a racing game, so...i guess someone cares.

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[QUOTE="xboxdevil"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="xboxdevil"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

[QUOTE="Shawtymann"]why are you making this argument toward cows only? lemmings talk about graphics tooclone01

lemmings arn't as bad however, and most 360 games go have gameplay to rival nintendos, i think of it this way

sony=way to foucused on grafics, MS= balenced but could be better, nintendo=focus on gameplay but grafics need a little bit of work.

First off, graphics are the first thing you notice when you start the game*so*. Second, we are in the HD era, like it or not, and Nintendo isn't with it. *HD tvs arn't widely avalible and cheap, the wii has hd cables for those who have the TV, but its made so everyone can take advantage of its full capbilitys*And third, if Nintendo's focus is on gameplay, then explain to me why the majority of games on the DS and especially the Wii, are total crap? *because nintendo can't controlwhat 3rdpartys do after they have development rights, look at 1st party games and tell me the gameplay has been rated sucky*Graphics fall second to gameplay, that is true, but Nintendo is dropping the ball big time on both fronts.

Could'nt help but notice you couldn't argue about Nintendo dropping the ball. And you still need spellcheck, fanboy.:lol:

how did nintendo drop the ball? they're killing both the PS3 and 360 in sales. and before you label me fanboy, know that i own a 360 and a Wii, and will soon own a PS3 (waiting for MGS4). stop the nintendo hate, just makes you look silly.

Since you are oblivious to the point, do yourself a favor, pick up the newest issue of EGM. Issue 221 to be exact. Should'nt be too hard to find, look for the magazine that says "Wii Crap- Why bad games are flooding the system". Then come back here and tell me how I'm just a "hater". And I won't call you a silly fanboy. Just silly.:lol:
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i will ask some of you older ps3 fans, that have gamed since the begining, what did you first play on before playstation ever existed, if you gamed most probably an 8-bit system, now were those so pretty to watch, no, but then why did you play......(cur jepordy theame)...times up, if you diden't get in in time, the awnser is what is gameplay, thats right, those who have been in the buisness since B8B (before 8 bit) and up to 16 bit know that what kept players captivated was gameplay.

so older playstation gamers, ask yourself, sony need to get in shape and start caring more about gameplay than grafics, or be left behind.

*pulls out flame sheild*

darkspineslayer

Graphics does play a role in game play, if graphics didn't matter to you then go back and play alien invaders and ping pong. graphics is the way a player sees the virtual world so to me atleast is very important.that said I don't simply look for graphics, the whole package matters.

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#37 jliebel
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graphics lend to gameplay
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i will ask some of you older ps3 fans, that have gamed since the begining, what did you first play on before playstation ever existed, if you gamed most probably an 8-bit system, now were those so pretty to watch, no, but then why did you play......(cur jepordy theame)...times up, if you diden't get in in time, the awnser is what is gameplay, thats right, those who have been in the buisness since B8B (before 8 bit) and up to 16 bit know that what kept players captivated was gameplay.

so older playstation gamers, ask yourself, sony need to get in shape and start caring more about gameplay than grafics, or be left behind.

*pulls out flame sheild*

darkspineslayer

Why can't people have both graphics and gameplay? and why did you leave 360 fans out? because they are a bunch of graphic whores also.( well until Halo3 was confirmed 640p ).

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i will ask some of you older ps3 fans, that have gamed since the begining, what did you first play on before playstation ever existed, if you gamed most probably an 8-bit system, now were those so pretty to watch, no, but then why did you play......(cur jepordy theame)...times up, if you diden't get in in time, the awnser is what is gameplay, thats right, those who have been in the buisness since B8B (before 8 bit) and up to 16 bit know that what kept players captivated was gameplay.

so older playstation gamers, ask yourself, sony need to get in shape and start caring more about gameplay than grafics, or be left behind.

*pulls out flame sheild*

darkspineslayer

Well I started gaming in the 16 bit era and I still remember thinking Joe Montana Footballlooked soooo real, there was nothing else to compare it to so why would I think those games looked bad? It wasnt until the PS came out that I thought all those games looked bad. Then came the PS2 and thats when I thought PS1 games looked bad and now that PS3 is out I think PS2 games look bad....When I buy a system I expect a huge graphical leap. Gameplay is never a question, for a game to be successful it needs great gameplay, devs know this, like everyone else does. Warhawk, RB6V, I think have great gameplay and look pretty at the same time, NBA 2K7 looked freakin amazing but what really had me loving the game was the fact that with those amazing graphics was the amazing animations that were seen in the game and how it made everything come together to have great gameplay, the game played so fluently and looked so realistic and thats what I want in a Sim sport and I feel we keep getting a little closer to that goal with Sim Sports games and anything else that tries to capture that realism.

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#40 sakura_Ex
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Another thing..since graphics don't matter then why not sell your Wii and boy a gameboy instead?
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#41 nevereathim
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

We played the games back then because they were the best available.We will do the same this generation. Graphics are a part of games and everyone wants great looking games so they will always be important.

darkspineslayer
somebody diden't read past the 1st scentance... why were you a gamer if you diden't like the grafics, yes grafics are a part but not a big part at all.

Because back then the graphics weren't as advanced
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#42 Xbox360Fanboy12
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Halo 3 blows away Crysis graphically.
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#43 sakura_Ex
Member since 2007 • 3066 Posts

Halo 3 blows away Crysis graphically.Xbox360Fanboy12

This either has to be a joke or you must be drunk.

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#44 xTHExJUICEx
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One more thing I think the gen after this one will be the point were graphics wont matter much anymore because games will looks soooo freakin amazing, its still too early to quit updating graphics.....Nintendo.
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#45 Xbox360Fanboy12
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[QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"]Halo 3 blows away Crysis graphically.sakura_Ex

This either has to be a joke or you must be drunk.

It's not a joke,it's the truth.

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#46 xboxdevil
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

i will ask some of you older ps3 fans, that have gamed since the begining, what did you first play on before playstation ever existed, if you gamed most probably an 8-bit system, now were those so pretty to watch, no, but then why did you play......(cur jepordy theame)...times up, if you diden't get in in time, the awnser is what is gameplay, thats right, those who have been in the buisness since B8B (before 8 bit) and up to 16 bit know that what kept players captivated was gameplay.

so older playstation gamers, ask yourself, sony need to get in shape and start caring more about gameplay than grafics, or be left behind.

*pulls out flame sheild*

sakura_Ex

Why can't people have both graphics and gameplay? and why did you leave 360 fans out? because they are a bunch of graphic whores also.( well until Halo3 was confirmed 640p ).

I'll answer. He's only focused on the graphics part of it because the Wii lacks in that department, therefore, graphics don't matter. As for the gameplay portion of it, well, it's lacking there too, but he's in denial. He excluded 360 gamers, because this is a direct shot at PS3 gamers. It's post like this where we separate the Nintendo fans from the Wiitards.
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#47 xboxdevil
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"]Halo 3 blows away Crysis graphically.Xbox360Fanboy12

This either has to be a joke or you must be drunk.

It's not a joke,it's the truth.

And this is beyond shadow of a doubt, the dumbest quote of the day. That's the truth.
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#48 ZanuffC
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[QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"]Halo 3 blows away Crysis graphically.xboxdevil

This either has to be a joke or you must be drunk.

It's not a joke,it's the truth.

And this is beyond shadow of a doubt, the dumbest quote of the day. That's the truth.

He has to be a fakeboy, its impossible for anyone to believe that.

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#49 nevereathim
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]

i will ask some of you older ps3 fans, that have gamed since the begining, what did you first play on before playstation ever existed, if you gamed most probably an 8-bit system, now were those so pretty to watch, no, but then why did you play......(cur jepordy theame)...times up, if you diden't get in in time, the awnser is what is gameplay, thats right, those who have been in the buisness since B8B (before 8 bit) and up to 16 bit know that what kept players captivated was gameplay.

so older playstation gamers, ask yourself, sony need to get in shape and start caring more about gameplay than grafics, or be left behind.

*pulls out flame sheild*

xboxdevil

Why can't people have both graphics and gameplay? and why did you leave 360 fans out? because they are a bunch of graphic whores also.( well until Halo3 was confirmed 640p ).

I'll answer. He's only focused on the graphics part of it because the Wii lacks in that department, therefore, graphics don't matter. As for the gameplay portion of it, well, it's lacking there too, but he's in denial. He excluded 360 gamers, because this is a direct shot at PS3 gamers. It's post like this where we separate the Nintendo fans from the Wiitards.

Jackpot for you, the wii guy is obviously in denial

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#50 xboxdevil
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[QUOTE="xboxdevil"][QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"]Halo 3 blows away Crysis graphically.ZanuffC

This either has to be a joke or you must be drunk.

It's not a joke,it's the truth.

And this is beyond shadow of a doubt, the dumbest quote of the day. That's the truth.

He has to be a fakeboy, its impossible for anyone to believe that.

Or maybe the "12" at the end of his name just refers to his age. In that case, I'll try to be understanding. Puberty can wreak all kinds of havoc on you.