Yoshida: PS4 Version of Multiplatform Games Must Be Considered the Best

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#101 Shewgenja
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cows: "gawd! it does not matter who has the best multiplats on consoles!  gawd!

yoshida: "dude, it totally matters who has the best multipats on consoles."

:P

Riverwolf007

So, Riverwolf, if the PS4 has the best multiplats, will you support it like you did the 360? They seem to be important to you.  I notice your buddy William did a ninja vanish when I posed the question to him.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

cows: "gawd! it does not matter who has the best multiplats on consoles!  gawd!

yoshida: "dude, it totally matters who has the best multipats on consoles."

:P

Shewgenja

So, Riverwolf, if the PS4 has the best multiplats, will you support it like you did the 360? They seem to be important to you.

i already support the ps3 i have had one longer than just about anybody on this board.

60gig ftw.

plus, so far the ps4 is looking great.

i have never complained about the ps3 because i didn't own one, i complained about it because i do own one.

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#103 scoots9
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Best console version maybe.

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#104 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

cows: "gawd! it does not matter who has the best multiplats on consoles!  gawd!

yoshida: "dude, it totally matters who has the best multipats on consoles."

:P

Riverwolf007

So, Riverwolf, if the PS4 has the best multiplats, will you support it like you did the 360? They seem to be important to you.

i already support the ps3 i have had one longer than just about anybody on this board.

60gig ftw.

plus, so far the ps4 is looking great.

i have never complained about the ps3 because i didn't own one, i complained about it because i do own one.

Fair play. Kudos to you for answering the question. I am still curious as to what William's answer will be LOL I'll try to give you more credit in the future.
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#105 jimmyrussle117
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Dat closed system doe.

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#106 hiphops_savior
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Geez, those are very compelling reasons, one patch would allow the Wii U to watch Netflix and game at will. Graphics goes to dust in a year on PC (Eyefinity FTW), comfortable controller is far too subjective (plus Wii U Pro controller has the best layout IMO). Very vague points, indeed.
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#107 Cosmic-Demigod-
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Your english is atrocious.

[QUOTE="stayhigh1"]Sony basically murder the xbox360 with exclusive gamesRR360DD

And yet the PS3 still finished last. Dem exclusives sure are important.

finished last in what? sales? last I checked they caught up to the 360 in selling around 77+ million consoles. even if they did "finish last" who cares? here I thought gamers cared about games not sales. well 360 fanboys care about sales because they have no games
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#108 faizan_faizan
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That's when not considering the PC version.
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#109 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Your english is atrocious.

[QUOTE="stayhigh1"]Sony basically murder the xbox360 with exclusive gamesCosmic-Demigod-

And yet the PS3 still finished last. Dem exclusives sure are important.

finished last in what? sales? last I checked they caught up to the 360 in selling around 77+ million consoles. even if they did "finish last" who cares? here I thought gamers cared about games not sales. well 360 fanboys care about sales because they have no games

I agree that games are more important. But sales SHOULD be important to gamers as well. Without sales, companies crumble. Without companies, there will be no games. Look at the Dreamcast. Who knows how many creative games we could have gotten had it lived? Because in its short lifespan, it came out with many cool games.
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#110 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

Multiplatform games ARE important...TO HAVE  THEM ON YOUR SYSTEM.  

Do you think any console fans will care that PC will have a superior version of Dark Souls II?  No, they only care if it's avalible on thier system.

The only importance Da better version of a multiplatform game has ever served for is...bragging rights.  If you really care about superior versions of mulitplatform games....YOU WOULDN'T BE AN XBOT YOU WOULD BE A HERMIT.

casharmy

Theres a difference between console gaming, and PC gaming. Consoles directly compete with eachother on every level. The PC doesn't.

And if someone has a choice to buy one console that gets DLC early or exclusive content or has more features that enhance their games or a controller that is more comfortable, then they're going to go for that one. That is what Sony is saying with the PS4. They want to create a console that compliments multiplats better than the competition.

It doesn't all boil down to graphics.

Sony is simply just saying they want their system to be the best in every aspect.  That's bragging rights to say "YEAH, we are the best" this is mostly because PS3 came up short in that with PS3 this gen.

Look, the original xbox has more powerful hardware than PS2 right?  But as long as PS2 got a "version" of a game that was also avalible on other systems it didn't matter if they were better.  No one considered getting an xbox for GTAIII on xbox if they had it on PS2 and the differences between multiplats on PS2 and xbox were much greater than what lems try to argue for xbox over PS3. 

Sony knows this as everyone else.  Only lems make this argument.  Sony knows exclusives ultamately determine whether a person chooses one system over another "wii" proved that last gen, and PS2 proved it the gen before, hell even the original xbox proved that with Halo. so again Da best version of a multiplat is a nice bragging right but want move someont to choose one system over another.

:wink: again if you really felt that stongly about superior versions of multiplatform games you would have ALREADY been a PC gamer...lol I see you still on xbox tho!!!

LOL at bringing up the original Xbox. The PS2 was an anomaly. It destroyed the competition that generation, and your example is off because the PS2 got the GTA games a year early. By the time San Andreas released on the Xbox, it had sold 15 million on the PS2. It then sold around 100,000 on Xbox. Then next-gen happens, and Microsoft made the 360 the more attractive console to play GTAIV on with timed-exclusive DLC. Guess which version sold more? Yup, the 360. Thats an astronomical improvement.

Wii proved that it was something new and different, and something accessable to familys. The Gamecube had really strong 1st party support - it had better exclusives than the Wii imo - and it still fell on its face.

If Microsoft were to come and say yeah, we have this new CoD game to announce. On the next Xbox, you get exclusive content / early DLC, this robust online service with a, b and c features and then go on to advertise this to the masses i.e. have the Xbox logo show when its advertised on TV, it will make a difference.

If exclusives mattered so much, then the PS3 shouldve well overtaken the 360 the second half of this gen. But no, it finished last. It sold faster, but in comparson it was at a snails pace. So yeah, exclusives don't matter much when you can provide the better multiplats and Sony know this.

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#111 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Your english is atrocious.

[QUOTE="stayhigh1"]Sony basically murder the xbox360 with exclusive gamesCosmic-Demigod-

And yet the PS3 still finished last. Dem exclusives sure are important.

finished last in what? sales? last I checked they caught up to the 360 in selling around 77+ million consoles. even if they did "finish last" who cares? here I thought gamers cared about games not sales. well 360 fanboys care about sales because they have no games

Sales and games. And last time you checked, it mustve been an estimation. Sony has never announced 77 million consoles. We're still waiting on official numbers.
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#112 Gue1
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That's when not considering the PC version.faizan_faizan

 

your PC does not have 8Gigs of GDDR5 so stay silent! Your current rig is irrelevant. :cool:

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#113 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Theres a difference between console gaming, and PC gaming. Consoles directly compete with eachother on every level. The PC doesn't.

And if someone has a choice to buy one console that gets DLC early or exclusive content or has more features that enhance their games or a controller that is more comfortable, then they're going to go for that one. That is what Sony is saying with the PS4. They want to create a console that compliments multiplats better than the competition.

It doesn't all boil down to graphics.

RR360DD

Sony is simply just saying they want their system to be the best in every aspect.  That's bragging rights to say "YEAH, we are the best" this is mostly because PS3 came up short in that with PS3 this gen.

Look, the original xbox has more powerful hardware than PS2 right?  But as long as PS2 got a "version" of a game that was also avalible on other systems it didn't matter if they were better.  No one considered getting an xbox for GTAIII on xbox if they had it on PS2 and the differences between multiplats on PS2 and xbox were much greater than what lems try to argue for xbox over PS3. 

Sony knows this as everyone else.  Only lems make this argument.  Sony knows exclusives ultamately determine whether a person chooses one system over another "wii" proved that last gen, and PS2 proved it the gen before, hell even the original xbox proved that with Halo. so again Da best version of a multiplat is a nice bragging right but want move someont to choose one system over another.

:wink: again if you really felt that stongly about superior versions of multiplatform games you would have ALREADY been a PC gamer...lol I see you still on xbox tho!!!

LOL at bringing up the original Xbox. The PS2 was an anomaly. It destroyed the competition that generation, and your example is off because the PS2 got the GTA games a year early. By the time San Andreas released on the Xbox, it had sold 15 million on the PS2. It then sold around 100,000 on Xbox. Then next-gen happens, and Microsoft made the 360 the more attractive console to play GTAIV on with timed-exclusive DLC. Guess which version sold more? Yup, the 360. Thats an astronomical improvement.

Wii proved that it was something new and different, and something accessable to familys. The Gamecube had really strong 1st party support - it had better exclusives than the Wii imo - and it still fell on its face.

If Microsoft were to come and say yeah, we have this new CoD game to announce. On the next Xbox, you get exclusive content / early DLC, this robust online service with a, b and c features and then go on to advertise this to the masses i.e. have the Xbox logo show when its advertised on TV, it will make a difference.

If exclusives mattered so much, then the PS3 shouldve well overtaken the 360 the second half of this gen. But no, it finished last. It sold faster, but in comparson it was at a snails pace. So yeah, exclusives don't matter much when you can provide the better multiplats and Sony know this.

so your final argument is sales?  That's not the only factor in the sales of PS3 but you hit the nail on the head when you admit even a $600 PS3 STILL sold faster than XBox360.  Admiting that kind of kills your whole sales and multiplatform argument in one shot.  

Thanks for playing tho.

Edit:

lets not forget the only time we saw dramatic spikes in sales for 360 in areas like japan was when it got exclusive games ususally jrpgs.  Exclusives are always the main determining factor.  

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#114 PSP107
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

cows: "gawd! it does not matter who has the best multiplats on consoles!  gawd!

yoshida: "dude, it totally matters who has the best multipats on consoles."

:P

So, Riverwolf, if the PS4 has the best multiplats, will you support it like you did the 360? They seem to be important to you.  I notice your buddy William did a ninja vanish when I posed the question to him.

lol@ ninja vanish. anyway, I like Riverwolf's reponse. "i have never complained about the ps3 because i didn't own one, i complained about it because i do own one." people always assume your a fanboy of a rival brand when you make a opinion on something towars the other. "
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#115 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]Sony is simply just saying they want their system to be the best in every aspect.  That's bragging rights to say "YEAH, we are the best" this is mostly because PS3 came up short in that with PS3 this gen.

Look, the original xbox has more powerful hardware than PS2 right?  But as long as PS2 got a "version" of a game that was also avalible on other systems it didn't matter if they were better.  No one considered getting an xbox for GTAIII on xbox if they had it on PS2 and the differences between multiplats on PS2 and xbox were much greater than what lems try to argue for xbox over PS3. 

Sony knows this as everyone else.  Only lems make this argument.  Sony knows exclusives ultamately determine whether a person chooses one system over another "wii" proved that last gen, and PS2 proved it the gen before, hell even the original xbox proved that with Halo. so again Da best version of a multiplat is a nice bragging right but want move someont to choose one system over another.

:wink: again if you really felt that stongly about superior versions of multiplatform games you would have ALREADY been a PC gamer...lol I see you still on xbox tho!!!

casharmy

LOL at bringing up the original Xbox. The PS2 was an anomaly. It destroyed the competition that generation, and your example is off because the PS2 got the GTA games a year early. By the time San Andreas released on the Xbox, it had sold 15 million on the PS2. It then sold around 100,000 on Xbox. Then next-gen happens, and Microsoft made the 360 the more attractive console to play GTAIV on with timed-exclusive DLC. Guess which version sold more? Yup, the 360. Thats an astronomical improvement.

Wii proved that it was something new and different, and something accessable to familys. The Gamecube had really strong 1st party support - it had better exclusives than the Wii imo - and it still fell on its face.

If Microsoft were to come and say yeah, we have this new CoD game to announce. On the next Xbox, you get exclusive content / early DLC, this robust online service with a, b and c features and then go on to advertise this to the masses i.e. have the Xbox logo show when its advertised on TV, it will make a difference.

If exclusives mattered so much, then the PS3 shouldve well overtaken the 360 the second half of this gen. But no, it finished last. It sold faster, but in comparson it was at a snails pace. So yeah, exclusives don't matter much when you can provide the better multiplats and Sony know this.

so your final argument is sales?  That's not the only factor in the sales of PS3 but you hit the nail on the head when you admit even a $600 PS3 STILL sold faster than XBox360.  Admiting that kind of kills your whole sales and multiplatform argument in one shot.  

Thanks for playing tho.

Final argument? You really talk shit sometimes.

The PS3 hasn't always been $600. Its sales surged with the slim. So no.

And lets not forget the PS3 had the advantage of brand recognition. The fact that a $600 console sold at all just goes to show people still thought highly of Sony and Playstation due to the PS2. Xbox 360 on the other hand started in the gutter, and had a lot to prove.

Need I remind you which console gained marketshare last gen. And which lost.

This gen it going to be a lot more close. Both MS and Sony will be more competitive as they'll probably be launching in a similar timeframe and the playing field is a lot more level. Multiplats will become more important than ever, expecially when Sony needs to be producing profit.

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#116 casharmy
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That's when not considering the PC version.faizan_faizan
"PC" is not wholistic and therefore unless you persoanlly own a much more powerful system than what's inside the PS4's closed hardware build then it includeds "PC" too.

So...what are your specs?

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#117 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]That's when not considering the PC version.Gue1

 

your PC does not have 8Gigs of GDDR5 so stay silent! Your current rig is irrelevant. :cool:

Dear Internet cur, I'll have you know that your churlish actions and replies reek of an insolent ignoramus! Why, upon reading your cretinous claim, I let out a mighty scoff and nearly choked upon my brandy!
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#118 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

LOL at bringing up the original Xbox. The PS2 was an anomaly. It destroyed the competition that generation, and your example is off because the PS2 got the GTA games a year early. By the time San Andreas released on the Xbox, it had sold 15 million on the PS2. It then sold around 100,000 on Xbox. Then next-gen happens, and Microsoft made the 360 the more attractive console to play GTAIV on with timed-exclusive DLC. Guess which version sold more? Yup, the 360. Thats an astronomical improvement.

Wii proved that it was something new and different, and something accessable to familys. The Gamecube had really strong 1st party support - it had better exclusives than the Wii imo - and it still fell on its face.

If Microsoft were to come and say yeah, we have this new CoD game to announce. On the next Xbox, you get exclusive content / early DLC, this robust online service with a, b and c features and then go on to advertise this to the masses i.e. have the Xbox logo show when its advertised on TV, it will make a difference.

If exclusives mattered so much, then the PS3 shouldve well overtaken the 360 the second half of this gen. But no, it finished last. It sold faster, but in comparson it was at a snails pace. So yeah, exclusives don't matter much when you can provide the better multiplats and Sony know this.

RR360DD

so your final argument is sales?  That's not the only factor in the sales of PS3 but you hit the nail on the head when you admit even a $600 PS3 STILL sold faster than XBox360.  Admiting that kind of kills your whole sales and multiplatform argument in one shot.  

Thanks for playing tho.

Final argument? You really talk shit sometimes.

The PS3 hasn't always been $600. Its sales surged with the slim. So no.

And lets not forget the PS3 had the advantage of brand recognition. The fact that a $600 console sold at all just goes to show people still thought highly of Sony and Playstation due to the PS2. Xbox 360 on the other hand started in the gutter, and had a lot to prove.

Need I remind you which console gained marketshare last gen. And which lost.

This gen it going to be a lot more close. Both MS and Sony will be more competitive as they'll probably be launching in a similar timeframe and the playing field is a lot more level. Multiplats will become more important than ever, expecially when Sony needs to be producing profit.

You are still not making your specific point with that tho.  If you look back through my arguments I have said that multiplats are important..."to have on the system".  Being superior for something other than bragging rights is your argument and you have failed to submit any kind of argument to back that up.  

The biggest issue with mutiplats for PS3 was that it's hardware was difficult to work with and some devs just opted out on making a version for the console.  The biggest push for Sony was that PS4 would have ease of development so they wouldn't miss out on any particualr multiplatform releases.  being slightly better is only a perk that they hope to be able to boast about as a after affect of that effort. 

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#119 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]so your final argument is sales?  That's not the only factor in the sales of PS3 but you hit the nail on the head when you admit even a $600 PS3 STILL sold faster than XBox360.  Admiting that kind of kills your whole sales and multiplatform argument in one shot.  

Thanks for playing tho.

casharmy

Final argument? You really talk shit sometimes.

The PS3 hasn't always been $600. Its sales surged with the slim. So no.

And lets not forget the PS3 had the advantage of brand recognition. The fact that a $600 console sold at all just goes to show people still thought highly of Sony and Playstation due to the PS2. Xbox 360 on the other hand started in the gutter, and had a lot to prove.

Need I remind you which console gained marketshare last gen. And which lost.

This gen it going to be a lot more close. Both MS and Sony will be more competitive as they'll probably be launching in a similar timeframe and the playing field is a lot more level. Multiplats will become more important than ever, expecially when Sony needs to be producing profit.

You are still not making your specific point with that tho.  If you look back through my arguments I have said that multiplats are important..."to have on the system".  Being superior for something other than bragging rights is your argument and you have failed to submit any kind of argument to back that up.  

The biggest issue with mutiplats for PS3 was that it's hardware was difficult to work with and some devs just opted out on making a version for the console.  The biggest push for Sony was that PS4 would have ease of development so they wouldn't miss out on any particualr multiplatform releases.  being slightly better is only a perk that they hope to be able to boast about as a after affect of that effort. 

My specifit point is that multiplats will be used more to sell the PS4 than exclusives.

And to back that up, just look at how the 360 has continued to sell post-2009 despite having no games (or so I'm told on here every day). To further back that up, theres the link in this thread where Sony are realising the importance of multiplats even more (they obviously recognised it this gen as the did secure exclusive content and stuff for certain games)

And add to that the fact that the biggest franchises this gen are multiplat, not exclusive. Uncharted was the biggest PS3 exclusive franchise, but many multiplats are bigger than that: CoD, GTA, Assassins Creed, Battlefield, Elder Scrolls etc.

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So the PS4 wants to be more like the 360?
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The differences between multiplats on PS3 and 360 were barely noticeable. It was just a talking point for Rats who had no exclusives. But if PS4 multiplats are significantly better than 720's they will have literally nothing to talk about on top of having no exclusives to play. 

Neg gen rats will be padding their lists with McDonalds apps and avatar costumes. 

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#122 Dreamcast86
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Yoshida is stupid. They know nothing about the next Xbox, their event was boring, and they didn`t even show us to much. Also, they still haven`t given us a good answer on activation codes and their anti consumer crap.

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Yoshida is stupid

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Hmmm strange cows have been saying all gen that multiplats don't matter. RR360DD

Who dafuq said that? Multiplats do matter but exclusives even more so. I'd prefer to have alot more exclusives and slightly worse mp games than slightly better mp games and no exclusives...

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#125 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Final argument? You really talk shit sometimes.

The PS3 hasn't always been $600. Its sales surged with the slim. So no.

And lets not forget the PS3 had the advantage of brand recognition. The fact that a $600 console sold at all just goes to show people still thought highly of Sony and Playstation due to the PS2. Xbox 360 on the other hand started in the gutter, and had a lot to prove.

Need I remind you which console gained marketshare last gen. And which lost.

This gen it going to be a lot more close. Both MS and Sony will be more competitive as they'll probably be launching in a similar timeframe and the playing field is a lot more level. Multiplats will become more important than ever, expecially when Sony needs to be producing profit.

RR360DD

You are still not making your specific point with that tho.  If you look back through my arguments I have said that multiplats are important..."to have on the system".  Being superior for something other than bragging rights is your argument and you have failed to submit any kind of argument to back that up.  

The biggest issue with mutiplats for PS3 was that it's hardware was difficult to work with and some devs just opted out on making a version for the console.  The biggest push for Sony was that PS4 would have ease of development so they wouldn't miss out on any particualr multiplatform releases.  being slightly better is only a perk that they hope to be able to boast about as a after affect of that effort. 

My specifit point is that multiplats will be used more to sell the PS4 than exclusives.

And to back that up, just look at how the 360 has continued to sell post-2009 despite having no games (or so I'm told on here every day). To further back that up, theres the link in this thread where Sony are realising the importance of multiplats even more (they obviously recognised it this gen as the did secure exclusive content and stuff for certain games)

And add to that the fact that the biggest franchises this gen are multiplat, not exclusive. Uncharted was the biggest PS3 exclusive franchise, but many multiplats are bigger than that: CoD, GTA, Assassins Creed, Battlefield, Elder Scrolls etc.

Post 2009 MS turned 100% casual and based all exclusive releses on kinect except for 1 or 2 games (halo/forza/gears).  Tho not core 360 still sold based on exclusives...only aimed toward Kinect.  So that point fails.

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#126 Blazed
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Hmmm strange cows have been saying all gen that multiplats don't matter. RR360DD
I think they have asserted that exclusives are more important.

Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat.

Nope

Motorstorm, Forza 4, Little Big Planet 2, Super Mario Galaxy, etc.

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#127 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

You are still not making your specific point with that tho.  If you look back through my arguments I have said that multiplats are important..."to have on the system".  Being superior for something other than bragging rights is your argument and you have failed to submit any kind of argument to back that up.  

The biggest issue with mutiplats for PS3 was that it's hardware was difficult to work with and some devs just opted out on making a version for the console.  The biggest push for Sony was that PS4 would have ease of development so they wouldn't miss out on any particualr multiplatform releases.  being slightly better is only a perk that they hope to be able to boast about as a after affect of that effort. 

casharmy

My specifit point is that multiplats will be used more to sell the PS4 than exclusives.

And to back that up, just look at how the 360 has continued to sell post-2009 despite having no games (or so I'm told on here every day). To further back that up, theres the link in this thread where Sony are realising the importance of multiplats even more (they obviously recognised it this gen as the did secure exclusive content and stuff for certain games)

And add to that the fact that the biggest franchises this gen are multiplat, not exclusive. Uncharted was the biggest PS3 exclusive franchise, but many multiplats are bigger than that: CoD, GTA, Assassins Creed, Battlefield, Elder Scrolls etc.

Post 2009 MS turned 100% casual and based all exclusive releses on kinect except for 1 or 2 games (halo/forza/gears).  Tho not core 360 still sold based on exclusives...only aimed toward Kinect.  So that point fails.

Thats not true at all. Kinect helped obviously, but so did the early CoD DLC, early Elder scrolls DLC etc etc. Thats partly the reason why the 360 won in the UK. After most multiplat commercials that Ive seen on TV this gen, you see the 360 logo at the end and not the PS3 one.
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#128 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] I think they have asserted that exclusives are more important. Blazed

Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat.

Nope

Motorstorm

:lol: Good one

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#129 Shinobi120
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So the PS4 wants to be more like the 360?Miketheman83

The ironic thing about it is that the next Xbox may wind up being like the PS3 in terms of development.

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#130 Cosmic-Demigod-
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[QUOTE="Cosmic-Demigod-"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

And yet the PS3 still finished last. Dem exclusives sure are important.

tagyhag
finished last in what? sales? last I checked they caught up to the 360 in selling around 77+ million consoles. even if they did "finish last" who cares? here I thought gamers cared about games not sales. well 360 fanboys care about sales because they have no games

I agree that games are more important. But sales SHOULD be important to gamers as well. Without sales, companies crumble. Without companies, there will be no games. Look at the Dreamcast. Who knows how many creative games we could have gotten had it lived? Because in its short lifespan, it came out with many cool games.

I agree, but at the same time I would say that at this point in time there's no point in bringing something like that up. all consoles sold well this gen, but what's more important (to me anyway) is the games that the console brought this gen. the wii brought next to nothing that i liked so to me the wii did the worst and ps3 did the best.
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#131 coasterguy65
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Multi-plats only matter when Sony says they matter.

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#132 Karpetburnz
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

Multiplatform games ARE important...TO HAVE  THEM ON YOUR SYSTEM.  

Do you think any console fans will care that PC will have a superior version of Dark Souls II?  No, they only care if it's avalible on thier system.

The only importance Da better version of a multiplatform game has ever served for is...bragging rights.  If you really care about superior versions of mulitplatform games....YOU WOULDN'T BE AN XBOT YOU WOULD BE A HERMIT.

casharmy

Theres a difference between console gaming, and PC gaming. Consoles directly compete with eachother on every level. The PC doesn't.

And if someone has a choice to buy one console that gets DLC early or exclusive content or has more features that enhance their games or a controller that is more comfortable, then they're going to go for that one. That is what Sony is saying with the PS4. They want to create a console that compliments multiplats better than the competition.

It doesn't all boil down to graphics.

Sony is simply just saying they want their system to be the best in every aspect.  That's bragging rights to say "YEAH, we are the best" this is mostly because PS3 came up short in that with PS3 this gen.

Look, the original xbox has more powerful hardware than PS2 right?  But as long as PS2 got a "version" of a game that was also avalible on other systems it didn't matter if they were better.  No one considered getting an xbox for GTAIII on xbox if they had it on PS2 and the differences between multiplats on PS2 and xbox were much greater than what lems try to argue for xbox over PS3. 

Sony knows this as everyone else.  Only lems make this argument.  Sony knows exclusives ultamately determine whether a person chooses one system over another "wii" proved that last gen, and PS2 proved it the gen before, hell even the original xbox proved that with Halo. so again Da best version of a multiplat is a nice bragging right but want move someont to choose one system over another.

:wink: again if you really felt that stongly about superior versions of multiplatform games you would have ALREADY been a PC gamer...lol I see you still on xbox tho!!!

I agree, superior versions of multiplats are usauly very insignificant. Its mostly a bragging right, I dont even care If PS4 will have the better versions of multiplatform games because I know the differences wont even be noticable, It would be a big loss to Lems because theyre the ones who were bragging about superior multiplats all gen.

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#133 Karpetburnz
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[QUOTE="Cosmic-Demigod-"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

And yet the PS3 still finished last. Dem exclusives sure are important.

RR360DD

finished last in what? sales? last I checked they caught up to the 360 in selling around 77+ million consoles. even if they did "finish last" who cares? here I thought gamers cared about games not sales. well 360 fanboys care about sales because they have no games

Sales and games. And last time you checked, it mustve been an estimation. Sony has never announced 77 million consoles. We're still waiting on official numbers.

The last official numbers Sony released was 70 million sold as of last year, and that was only like a month after Microsoft announced they sold 70 million, since then, PS3 has been outselling Xbox 360 every month, you cant seriously think PS3 is still at 70 million sold after like 6-7 months? plus Jack Tretton already said they sold 77 million a couple months ago.

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#134 pelvist
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[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

Don't make me laugh. PC has the most crappiest ports. If the game is being released on consoles first, then you can guarrantee it's going to suck on PC.

lilnazar

 

What a load of crap, even the bad ports are better on PC, just look at Dark Souls...

 

If the game is being released on console first then you can guarentee its going to suck from a technical standpoint compared to how it could have been if it was made for PC.

I'm not talking about graphics wise. I'm talking about gameplay wise. GTA 4 is pretty horrible from what i heard on PC, except mods which doesn't relate to the subject. And no, bad ports aren't better on PC. If we are talking gameplay wise.

 

Well there is your problem, as is the problem with many console gamers on here, you heard wrong. It is the exact same game as on consoles, with more options for better graphics and more gameplay features that the console versions do not have ( and thats without mods ). People on PC complain because they try to run it at max settings where it runs worse than expected for their video cards that can max all the other games released around its time with no problem, even though the LOWEST settings on GTAIV already look as good, if not better than the console version.

A bad port doesnt mean the game is bad on PC, in most cases it simply means they left us with a game that is stuck with console limitations ( at least until mods ) and doesnt fully take advantage of PC hardware which can sometimes cause performance issues, or have propper mouse/keyboard support. Console gamers seem to think bad port automatically means worse than the console version, which is false, we can still plug in a controller, and the performance issues arent as bad as the super low framerates you play at on consoles.

For example, people said L.A Noir was a bad port because it was capped at 30fps, just like the console version. Does that mean the console version with lower resolution than the PC version, FPS dips as low as 15fps compared to the more steady 30fps it is capped at on PC, slow loading times compared to PC version and only one choice of control method is better? Do the lower framerates and worse textures make the gameplay better then? :lol:

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#135 Shewgenja
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Multi-plats only matter when Sony says they matter.

coasterguy65
So, Coasterguy, you looking forward to supporting the PS4 next gen if it has superior multiplats?
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#137 Blazed
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[QUOTE="Blazed"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat. RR360DD

Nope

Motorstorm

:lol: Good one

LOL  Pure was underrated and Dirt 3 was cool but I enjoyed motorstorm 2 a lot more than any of those titles. I'm not about to sit here and agrue opinion but exclusives do matter. Only peoplel that say different are Microsoft fanboys.

:lol:

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#138 nintendoboy16
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A bit late to realise the importance of grabbing multiplats. But at least they learnt their lesson from this gen.Overlord93
The only way we can tell they've learned their lesson is how the end result pays off.
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#140 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Blazed"]

Nope

Motorstorm

Blazed

:lol: Good one

LOL  Pure was underrated and Dirt 3 was cool but I enjoyed motorstorm 2 a lot more than any of those titles. I'm not about to sit here and agrue opinion but exclusives do matter. Only peoplel that say different are Microsoft fanboys.

:lol:

Exclusives are typically the deciding factor in which console one is to buy, if one is to only buy one console.
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#141 AmazonTreeBoa
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I don't give a rat's ass about multiplats when it comes to consoles. It's all about the exclusives.
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#142 AmazonTreeBoa
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F*ck lol I ment TLG not TLOU :x

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What is tlg?
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controller is more comfortable? if you have small asian hands then sure XxR3m1xInHDn3D

The DS4 controller is a little different, Its bigger, has longer handles and has improved ergonomics. So now you lems cant complain about the size of the controller.

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#144 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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[QUOTE="XxR3m1xInHDn3D"]controller is more comfortable? if you have small asian hands then sure Karpetburnz

The DS4 controller is a little different, Its bigger, has longer handles and has improved ergonomics. So now you lems cant complain about the size of the controller.

ok fine but to say a multiplat is better because of the god damn controller is hilarious unless you're talking about the wii
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#145 Blazed
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[QUOTE="Blazed"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

:lol: Good one

Heirren

LOL  Pure was underrated and Dirt 3 was cool but I enjoyed motorstorm 2 a lot more than any of those titles. I'm not about to sit here and agrue opinion but exclusives do matter. Only peoplel that say different are Microsoft fanboys.

:lol:

Exclusives are typically the deciding factor in which console one is to buy, if one is to only buy one console.

 

Exactly. I have no interesnt in multiplatiform games on consoles  unless my friends are playing multiplayer.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Blazed"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

:lol: Good one

LOL  Pure was underrated and Dirt 3 was cool but I enjoyed motorstorm 2 a lot more than any of those titles. I'm not about to sit here and agrue opinion but exclusives do matter. Only peoplel that say different are Microsoft fanboys.

:lol:

Exclusives are typically the deciding factor in which console one is to buy, if one is to only buy one console.

I dont think the average consumer care about exclusives.
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#147 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Hmmm strange cows have been saying all gen that multiplats don't matter. RR360DD
I think they have asserted that exclusives are more important.

Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat.

Lol a Lem in denial what a surprise. Exclusives, well at least ps3 ones, are some of the best scored and awarded games this gen. Hell Uncharted 2 is probably the most awarded game ever. Stop trying to lie to yourself lemming you look kind of pathetic.
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#148 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] I think they have asserted that exclusives are more important. kuraimen
Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat.

Lol a Lem in denial what a surprise. Exclusives, well at least ps3 ones, are some of the best scored and awarded games this gen. Hell Uncharted 2 is probably the most awarded game ever. Stop trying to lie to yourself lemming you look kind of pathetic.

No theyre not. And I agree, Uncharted is freaking awesome, I would've bought a PS3 just for that series alone (I did) but I'm not your average consumer.

Multiplats are 90% of a consoles library, exclusives 10%. Highest rated game this gen is  GTA IV. A multiplat.

Bioshock is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

The Orange Box is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Arkham City is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Mass Effect 2 is rated .... I could go on.

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#149 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat. RR360DD

Lol a Lem in denial what a surprise. Exclusives, well at least ps3 ones, are some of the best scored and awarded games this gen. Hell Uncharted 2 is probably the most awarded game ever. Stop trying to lie to yourself lemming you look kind of pathetic.

No theyre not. And I agree, Uncharted is freaking awesome, I would've bought a PS3 just for that series alone (I did) but I'm not your average consumer.

Multiplats are 90% of a consoles library, exclusives 10%. Highest rated game this gen is  GTA IV. A multiplat.

Bioshock is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

The Orange Box is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Arkham City is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Mass Effect 2 is rated .... I could go on.

Are you stupid or what? You said the best of the best games this gen are multiplats and I just showed you that ps3 exclusives are among the best of the best. Of course there are multiplats among the best of the best too but that doesn't mean there are no exclusives, well ps3 ones. So again stop trying to spin what you said and lying to yourself, you're quite pathetic. And guess what the ps3 plays both those quality exclusives AND the multiplats, that's why exclusives matter you get more quality games alongside your multiplats, exclusives are what makes a difference for gamers not getting ripped off to fill M$ pockets and pizza apps like it is for lems.
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#150 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol a Lem in denial what a surprise. Exclusives, well at least ps3 ones, are some of the best scored and awarded games this gen. Hell Uncharted 2 is probably the most awarded game ever. Stop trying to lie to yourself lemming you look kind of pathetic.kuraimen

No theyre not. And I agree, Uncharted is freaking awesome, I would've bought a PS3 just for that series alone (I did) but I'm not your average consumer.

Multiplats are 90% of a consoles library, exclusives 10%. Highest rated game this gen is  GTA IV. A multiplat.

Bioshock is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

The Orange Box is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Arkham City is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Mass Effect 2 is rated .... I could go on.

Are you stupid or what? You said the best of the best games this gen are multiplats and I just showed you that ps3 exclusives are among the best of the best. Of course there are multiplats among the best of the best too but that doesn't mean there are no exclusives, well ps3 ones. So again stop trying to spin what you said and lying to yourself, you're quite pathetic. And guess what the ps3 plays both those quality exclusives AND the multiplats, that's why exclusives matter you get more quality games alongside your multiplats, exclusives are what makes a difference for gamers not getting ripped off to fill M$ pockets and pizza apps like it is for lems.

And there are 360 exclusives up there as well (Halo 3, Gears etc). Big f*cking deal.

Maybe you should read the thread next time, because I disagreed when he said exclusives were more important than multiplats. Do you understand that sentence? Here, I'll break it down for you: Multiplats are more important than exclusives. Simple enough, yeah?

There are about 3 or 4 times more multiplats at the top than there are exclusives on any platform.

So just suck it up and accept it.