Yoshida: PS4 Version of Multiplatform Games Must Be Considered the Best

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#151 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

No theyre not. And I agree, Uncharted is freaking awesome, I would've bought a PS3 just for that series alone (I did) but I'm not your average consumer.

Multiplats are 90% of a consoles library, exclusives 10%. Highest rated game this gen is  GTA IV. A multiplat.

Bioshock is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

The Orange Box is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Arkham City is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Mass Effect 2 is rated .... I could go on.

RR360DD

Are you stupid or what? You said the best of the best games this gen are multiplats and I just showed you that ps3 exclusives are among the best of the best. Of course there are multiplats among the best of the best too but that doesn't mean there are no exclusives, well ps3 ones. So again stop trying to spin what you said and lying to yourself, you're quite pathetic. And guess what the ps3 plays both those quality exclusives AND the multiplats, that's why exclusives matter you get more quality games alongside your multiplats, exclusives are what makes a difference for gamers not getting ripped off to fill M$ pockets and pizza apps like it is for lems.

And there are 360 exclusives up there as well (Halo 3, Gears etc). Big f*cking deal.

Maybe you should read the thread next time, because I disagreed when he said exclusives were more important than multiplats. Do you understand that sentence? Here, I'll break it down for you: Multiplats are more important than exclusives. Simple enough, yeah?

There are about 3 or 4 times more multiplats at the top than there are exclusives on any platform.

So just suck it up and accept it.

There are not more important when deciding what system to get. Gamers look up for exclusives for that. Why the hell will they look up for multiplats if they're everywhere else too? Only lems are dumb enough to choose a system because it plays multiplats but then again they're dumb enough to get ripped off for online play too so it's really not surprising.
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#152 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Are you stupid or what? You said the best of the best games this gen are multiplats and I just showed you that ps3 exclusives are among the best of the best. Of course there are multiplats among the best of the best too but that doesn't mean there are no exclusives, well ps3 ones. So again stop trying to spin what you said and lying to yourself, you're quite pathetic. And guess what the ps3 plays both those quality exclusives AND the multiplats, that's why exclusives matter you get more quality games alongside your multiplats, exclusives are what makes a difference for gamers not getting ripped off to fill M$ pockets and pizza apps like it is for lems.kuraimen

And there are 360 exclusives up there as well (Halo 3, Gears etc). Big f*cking deal.

Maybe you should read the thread next time, because I disagreed when he said exclusives were more important than multiplats. Do you understand that sentence? Here, I'll break it down for you: Multiplats are more important than exclusives. Simple enough, yeah?

There are about 3 or 4 times more multiplats at the top than there are exclusives on any platform.

So just suck it up and accept it.

There are not more important when deciding what system to get. Gamers look up for exclusives for that. Why the hell will they look up for multiplats if they're everywhere else too? Only lems are dumb enough to choose a system because it plays multiplats but then again they're dumb enough to get ripped off for online play too so it's really not surprising.

Exclusives are becoming less and less important as a deciding factor when buying a console, simply because they are becoming less common. Which is why Sony are now saying that their versions of multiplats must be better. They're more important.

Compare how many great exclusives the PS2 had to the PS3. Exactly.

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#153 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

And there are 360 exclusives up there as well (Halo 3, Gears etc). Big f*cking deal.

Maybe you should read the thread next time, because I disagreed when he said exclusives were more important than multiplats. Do you understand that sentence? Here, I'll break it down for you: Multiplats are more important than exclusives. Simple enough, yeah?

There are about 3 or 4 times more multiplats at the top than there are exclusives on any platform.

So just suck it up and accept it.

RR360DD

There are not more important when deciding what system to get. Gamers look up for exclusives for that. Why the hell will they look up for multiplats if they're everywhere else too? Only lems are dumb enough to choose a system because it plays multiplats but then again they're dumb enough to get ripped off for online play too so it's really not surprising.

Exclusives are becoming less and less important as a deciding factor when buying a console, simply because they are becoming less common. Which is why Sony are now saying that their versions of multiplats must be better. They're more important.

Compare how many great exclusives the PS2 had to the PS3. Exactly.

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That they're less doesn't mean that they're less important for gamers. If lems want to base their purchase on pizza apps then be my guest but real gamers will always look for games. Thankfully Sony focuses itself on games a lot unlike M$ who relies on ripping off naive lems and selling them over hyped dust collecting gimmicks like kinect.
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#154 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat. RR360DD

Lol a Lem in denial what a surprise. Exclusives, well at least ps3 ones, are some of the best scored and awarded games this gen. Hell Uncharted 2 is probably the most awarded game ever. Stop trying to lie to yourself lemming you look kind of pathetic.

No theyre not. And I agree, Uncharted is freaking awesome, I would've bought a PS3 just for that series alone (I did) but I'm not your average consumer.

Multiplats are 90% of a consoles library, exclusives 10%. Highest rated game this gen is  GTA IV. A multiplat.

Bioshock is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

The Orange Box is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Arkham City is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Mass Effect 2 is rated .... I could go on.

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#155 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol a Lem in denial what a surprise. Exclusives, well at least ps3 ones, are some of the best scored and awarded games this gen. Hell Uncharted 2 is probably the most awarded game ever. Stop trying to lie to yourself lemming you look kind of pathetic.Shewgenja

No theyre not. And I agree, Uncharted is freaking awesome, I would've bought a PS3 just for that series alone (I did) but I'm not your average consumer.

Multiplats are 90% of a consoles library, exclusives 10%. Highest rated game this gen is  GTA IV. A multiplat.

Bioshock is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

The Orange Box is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Arkham City is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Mass Effect 2 is rated .... I could go on.

MGS4 says Hi.

Nobody other than fanboys think MGS4 deserved a 10 or GTAIV for that matter. so you can keep playing that card but nobody is going to take you seriously. MGS4 is NEVER mentioned..... because it wasn't even the closest to best in its series and was overated..... let it go.
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rofl great gif
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#157 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

No theyre not. And I agree, Uncharted is freaking awesome, I would've bought a PS3 just for that series alone (I did) but I'm not your average consumer.

Multiplats are 90% of a consoles library, exclusives 10%. Highest rated game this gen is  GTA IV. A multiplat.

Bioshock is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

The Orange Box is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Arkham City is rated the same as Uncharted 2. A multiplat.

Mass Effect 2 is rated .... I could go on.

MBirdy88
MGS4 says Hi.

Nobody other than fanboys think MGS4 deserved a 10 or GTAIV for that matter. so you can keep playing that card but nobody is going to take you seriously. MGS4 is NEVER mentioned..... because it wasn't even the closest to best in its series and was overated..... let it go.

Lol so 99% of professional reviewers out there are fanboys?
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#159 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Nobody other than fanboys think MGS4 deserved a 10 or GTAIV for that matter. so you can keep playing that card but nobody is going to take you seriously. MGS4 is NEVER mentioned..... because it wasn't even the closest to best in its series and was overated..... let it go.sts106mat
Lol so 99% of professional reviewers out there are fanboys?

in fairness, some of the MGS4 reviewers were flown to japan and there WAS a gagging order preventing them from mentioning number of cutscenes and length of those scenes. doesn't seem like a fair review if you are prevented from mentioning hours of cut scenes.

Is your argument based on scores or not? Are we qualifying or quantifying? Or should we just try again?

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#160 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] MGS4 says Hi.

Nobody other than fanboys think MGS4 deserved a 10 or GTAIV for that matter. so you can keep playing that card but nobody is going to take you seriously. MGS4 is NEVER mentioned..... because it wasn't even the closest to best in its series and was overated..... let it go.

Lol so 99% of professional reviewers out there are fanboys?

Need I remind you again and again that the most played game got a 6.0 here and ironically is alot deeper than most games?? why the f*ck am I suppose to buy hype from reviewers that glorify franchises and hype/rate them highly because of "new gen tech" in which both MGS4 and GTAIV fell victim too, you'l find that the majority of GTA fans prefer the original trio because they were alot more FUN .... not grey movie wannabe boring missioned, closed of little "movie version of GTA" that took itself far too seriouisly to the point that it was repetitive and boring ... regardless of tech improvements. so yea, I've learned that the most hyped up games based on their first "next gen" releases have to be taken with a pinch of salt because you casuals and mainstream critics are so heavily effected by graphics (look at the level of cow hype for the PS4 atm ... even though killzone is a damn mediocre franchise in its genre) based on this.
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#162 SecretPolice
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Saweeet, I'm gonna buy me a gaming PC just so I can see what it's like to play peek-a-boo hiding behind mah PC all next gen. :P

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#163 Shewgenja
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Saweeet, I'm gonna buy me a gaming PC just so I can see what it's like to play peek-a-boo hiding behind mah PC all next gen. :P

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We've a good feeling a lot of Lems will be doing that.
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#164 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Saweeet, I'm gonna buy me a gaming PC just so I can see what it's like to play peek-a-boo hiding behind mah PC all next gen. :P

Shewgenja

We've a good feeling a lot of Lems will be doing that.

;) Ya know what they say about pay back? :o

Seriously tho, if PS4 offers up some of what the SP likes; I'm likely to have one anyway. :P

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#165 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Saweeet, I'm gonna buy me a gaming PC just so I can see what it's like to play peek-a-boo hiding behind mah PC all next gen. :P

SecretPolice

We've a good feeling a lot of Lems will be doing that.

;) Ya know what they say about pay back? :o

Seriously tho, if PS4 offers up some of what the SP likes; I'm likely to have one anyway. :P

Jury's out for me on the Next Xbox. If they move off of the pay-to-play online and build up some more internal studios and not focus quite so hard on Kinect, then I could quite possibly return to Ye Box o' X. Those are my terms and conditions lol
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#167 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] MGS4 says Hi.

Nobody other than fanboys think MGS4 deserved a 10 or GTAIV for that matter. so you can keep playing that card but nobody is going to take you seriously. MGS4 is NEVER mentioned..... because it wasn't even the closest to best in its series and was overated..... let it go.

Lol so 99% of professional reviewers out there are fanboys?

Uh MGS4 is a 94 on metacritic. There are many many multiplats higher and better
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#168 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol so 99% of professional reviewers out there are fanboys?Shewgenja

in fairness, some of the MGS4 reviewers were flown to japan and there WAS a gagging order preventing them from mentioning number of cutscenes and length of those scenes. doesn't seem like a fair review if you are prevented from mentioning hours of cut scenes.

Is your argument based on scores or not? Are we qualifying or quantifying? Or should we just try again?

We were discussing metacritic scores, which MGS4 is a 94. Many multiplats better than that, so I don't see the significance.
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you can always dream on yoshida..its free after all.
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#170 Yama
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They definitely seem to have the right mindset this time and know what is important. Honestly, I'm just waiting to see if it will be lived up to. Talk is cheap, though admittedly it does sound good right now.

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#171 hiphops_savior
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They definitely seem to have the right mindset this time and know what is important. Honestly, I'm just waiting to see if it will be lived up to. Talk is cheap, though admittedly it does sound good right now.

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#172 kuraimen
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why the f*ck am I suppose to buy hype from reviewers that glorify franchises and hype/rate them highly because of "new gen tech".MBirdy88
Who said you should do that? you're the one claiming that "Nobody other than fanboys think MGS4 deserved a 10". But apparently many reviewers did, so you either think those are ALL fanboys or you just got that out of your ass which is the most logical conclusion.
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#173 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Nobody other than fanboys think MGS4 deserved a 10 or GTAIV for that matter. so you can keep playing that card but nobody is going to take you seriously. MGS4 is NEVER mentioned..... because it wasn't even the closest to best in its series and was overated..... let it go.

Lol so 99% of professional reviewers out there are fanboys?

Uh MGS4 is a 94 on metacritic. There are many many multiplats higher and better

Yeah multiplats the PS3 also has. Meanwhile the 360 doesn't have some of the highest scoring games this gen like MGS4, LBP and UC2.
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#174 TheFadeForever
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Once they release a ps4 game than we can determie if its the best

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#175 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol so 99% of professional reviewers out there are fanboys?

Uh MGS4 is a 94 on metacritic. There are many many multiplats higher and better

Yeah multiplats the PS3 also has. Meanwhile the 360 doesn't have some of the highest scoring games this gen like MGS4, LBP and UC2.

Never disputed that. This is getting boring now, you're dancing around the point. Multiplats more important than exclusives. #dealwithit
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#176 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Uh MGS4 is a 94 on metacritic. There are many many multiplats higher and betterRR360DD
Yeah multiplats the PS3 also has. Meanwhile the 360 doesn't have some of the highest scoring games this gen like MGS4, LBP and UC2.

Never disputed that. This is getting boring now, you're dancing around the point. Multiplats more important than exclusives. #dealwithit

Not for deciding which console is the best which is what matters when a gamer decides what to buy so #dealwithityourself
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#177 PSP107
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MGS4 SP sucked but MGO was top notch.
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#178 donalbane
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Everything always has to be 'the best'. The PS4 might be the most powerful console, but anybody who thinks it will be better than a high end gaming PC smokes rocks.
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#179 Wiiyou
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Everything always has to be 'the best'. The PS4 might be the most powerful console, but anybody who thinks it will be better than a high end gaming PC smokes rocks. donalbane

Yeah but far from all have that "high end"-PC with Titan gpu etc :(

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#180 sweeten16
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So in other words he is saying we need to try and be the xbox 360 of the next generation this time.
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#181 Bazooka_4ME
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Hey as long as PSN remains free, i dont have to Fn worry about a fee just to access its multiplayer.
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#182 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Hmmm strange cows have been saying all gen that multiplats don't matter. RR360DD
I think they have asserted that exclusives are more important.

Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat.

I completely agree with this statement. Multiplats comprise by far the greatest percentage of games released. 9 out of 10 of my favorite games are multiplats. This is why I buy all my multiplats for the PC. I believe games are works of art that deserve to be presented with the greatest fidelity possible.

360 was generally better than PS3 this generation on multiplats, but who knows about next gen? Ultimately, though, for me personally, I don't care which console has the slightly better multiplats.

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#183 PSP107
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So in other words he is saying we need to try and be the xbox 360 of the next generation this time.sweeten16
Was the 360 the PS2 of the previous generation?
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#184 kalipekona
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Don't make me laugh. PC has the most crappiest ports. If the game is being released on consoles first, then you can guarrantee it's going to suck on PC.

lilnazar

Such complete and utter nonsense. Even the worst port can still end up being better on the PC (GTAIV, for example). I have over 100 multiplats installed on my PC and every one of them is significantly superior to their console counterparts.

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#185 PSP107
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[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

Don't make me laugh. PC has the most crappiest ports. If the game is being released on consoles first, then you can guarrantee it's going to suck on PC.

Such complete and utter nonsense. Even the worst port can still end up being better on the PC (GTAIV, for example). I have over 100 multiplats installed on my PC and every one of them is significantly superior to their console counterparts.

Superior in what way?
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#186 jsmoke03
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Hmmm strange cows have been saying all gen that multiplats don't matter. RR360DD
its not coming from the cows from this forum....cows will follow
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#187 McSkombi
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Hmmm strange cows have been saying all gen that multiplats don't matter. RR360DD
I think they have asserted that exclusives are more important.

Exclusives more important? Totally disagree. The best of the best this gen (games) have been multiplat.

On the console you're a fanboy of they definitely are. But many PS3 Exclusives were better than multiplats.

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Everything always has to be 'the best'. The PS4 might be the most powerful console, but anybody who thinks it will be better than a high end gaming PC smokes rocks. donalbane
totally agree................fap it...........
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#189 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

Don't make me laugh. PC has the most crappiest ports. If the game is being released on consoles first, then you can guarrantee it's going to suck on PC.

kalipekona

Such complete and utter nonsense. Even the worst port can still end up being better on the PC (GTAIV, for example). I have over 100 multiplats installed on my PC and every one of them is significantly superior to their console counterparts.

Also consider the same architecture.
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#190 clyde46
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LOL at people saying exclusives matter. Only on GS do exclusives matter. The average Joe isn't going to care just as long as he gets to play COD or BF3 with his/her friends. Multiplats are the bread and butter of this industry and its what sells consoles.
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#191 Shewgenja
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LOL at people saying exclusives matter. Only on GS do exclusives matter. The average Joe isn't going to care just as long as he gets to play COD or BF3 with his/her friends. Multiplats are the bread and butter of this industry and its what sells consoles. clyde46
Then how come the PS3 has closed a 10 million unit gap with a console that had a year headstart and "teh sooperior multiplayts"? The math, as it turns out, is not in favor of this conclusion.
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#192 PsychoLemons
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That's some bold statement they are making.

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#193 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]LOL at people saying exclusives matter. Only on GS do exclusives matter. The average Joe isn't going to care just as long as he gets to play COD or BF3 with his/her friends. Multiplats are the bread and butter of this industry and its what sells consoles. Shewgenja
Then how come the PS3 has closed a 10 million unit gap with a console that had a year headstart and "teh sooperior multiplayts"? The math, as it turns out, is not in favor of this conclusion.

And how many of those sales were because of games like UC and MGS?
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#194 PSP107
Member since 2007 • 18981 Posts

That's some bold statement they are making.

PsychoLemons
I think they are really addressing the fact the PS3 had a bad reputation for multiplatform.
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#195 Mrmedia01
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PC will always.SNIPER4321

 

With teh $500 dollar Video card. lol. Expensive Upgrades, upgrades to beat consoles.

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#196 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="kalipekona"]

[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

Don't make me laugh. PC has the most crappiest ports. If the game is being released on consoles first, then you can guarrantee it's going to suck on PC.

Such complete and utter nonsense. Even the worst port can still end up being better on the PC (GTAIV, for example). I have over 100 multiplats installed on my PC and every one of them is significantly superior to their console counterparts.

Superior in what way?

Control options, graphics/performance, mods etc
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#197 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]PC will always.Mrmedia01

 

With teh $500 dollar Video card. lol. Expensive Upgrades, upgrades to beat consoles.

huh? Spent $180 on a gpu in 2011 and it darn near matches the gpu coming out in the PS4....
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#198 tormentos
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 huh? Spent $180 on a gpu in 2011 and it darn near matches the gpu coming out in the PS4....04dcarraher

 

Yeah specially in games that require allot of ram like Skyrim were the 7850 beat the crap out of your card...:lol:

 

Oh i forgot you are also comparing your GPU to the 7850 which is weaker and less efficient than the PS4..

 

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#199 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

 huh? Spent $180 on a gpu in 2011 and it darn near matches the gpu coming out in the PS4....tormentos

 

Yeah specially in games that require allot of ram like Skyrim were the 7850 beat the crap out of your card...:lol:

 

Oh i forgot you are also comparing your GPU to the 7850 which is weaker and less efficient than the PS4..

 

aww another idiot comment by you whats new... 

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#200 tormentos
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aww another idiot comment by you whats new... 

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04dcarraher

 

Where is your GPU.?

Your GPU is a 560TI not a 650Ti..:lol:

 

Did you forgot what GPU you have.?

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6359/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review/15

 

Didn't we have this argument already oh yeah,i remember now you accuse Anandtech of screwing the test,even that the 7850 1Gb also suffer the same fate as your card on skyrim,ram was the real impact your GPU is not even close to be as efficient as the PS4 one,and you are making silly comparisons using the 7850 vs your GPU which is not the same as the PS4 GPU.