Do some of you realize how expensive it is to actually make block buster games? It's not cheap by any means. Of course it's too expensive to take a hold of those AAA's. This will be the multi play generation rather if some of you like it or not.
Smh. How people defend and attack plastics for a living. Lems forget that PS4 has the same, if not, more AAA exclusives with bunch indie games sandwiched on between. I dislike the fact that these fanboys like to diss indie games as if big studios are the only one making great games. Then you the "I didn't buy a PS4 for indie games" crowd. Well, didn't you buy a console to play games, and a lot of it? Why get mad because they are making games that are not of your taste when people have a diverse taste in games? They're not catering to one person, they are trying to expand their audience reach, and believe it or not, an indie's success is how a AAA studio is created. I'm sure someone has a game in development that caters to you, that doesn't spark interests from someone else. Should they cancel it because they're not looking forward to a game you like? Hell, even PC gamers with top rigs are playing smaller indie titles. They didn't build a rig for indies but that doesn't mean they shouldn't enjoy those games.
Look how much GTAV cost to devs. See Destiny, Watch Dogs and other new games budgets. It really is getting very expensive to make high-profile games, especially those with attention to hi-fi animation, voice acting, superb graphics... that's certainly not one single platforms' issue, it's a new market paradigm... the increasing importance of indies are actually a collateral effect, a low-cost, "outsourced" way to go around that issue and profit some between those risky (in a business sense) major games.
So after a paltry offering at E3 they go on to say they don't have the money to provide tons of high quality experiences? Well, we all (should) know how this is going to turn out.
Phil Spencer on the other hand has been all about AAA exclusives coming to the Xbox One.
Halo ports and Sunset Overdrive lmao
Ubisoft said something similar the other day - they wouldn't be making as many AAA IPs this generation. Combine this with the virtual non-appearance of AAAs at MS' conference and you're looking at another massive thread backfire by Scipio.
It's not his fault it's the developers. Look at how little games come out for the Wii U and X1. Sony notices that and at least gives you indies in between.
In metacritic only 1 game is above 90 and thats Rayman . PS4 has 3 already.
On 80 to 90 range PS4 has 23 games with X1 having 9 !!!!!!!!!
Dont start with AAA now lemmings , this wont end up well , beleive me. In the end youll say PS4 has no AAA material , like in E3 you didnt see some.
PS : " During our conversation about PS4, Yoshida also talked about the relative lack of big Sony-published games slated for Sony’s console this fall "
Apparently he was talking about this fall !! Lems behave or i see this backfire once again anytime soon
Truth be told, I expect that there will be a healthy number of break-out indie studios throughout this generation that may make the leap to AAA development houses as time goes on. There will be a lot who cash-in and cash-out and stick to making smaller games, but not everyone is like that weird dude who made Minecraft. Inside a lot of these people starting studios are those kids who grew up with Final Fantasy and other gigantic titles and probably would like to make a huge title if fortune swings their way.
I reject this notion that the age of AAAs is coming to an end. I think the giant megapublishers have become a little too conservative and that enough successful indie houses could come together and change the balance of power, even on a AAA scale.
Yoshida needs to be fired. He screwed over PSV owners with all the "indie games will be the device's support" and now it seems he's trying to do the same shit to the PS4! ****!
Listen you dumb shit! AAA exclusive games have always been the major draw to specific platforms and always will be. It's about the content.
I think this guy is a god damn Nintendo spy; Yoshida = Yoshi.
Yoshida needs to be fired. He screwed over PSV owners with all the "indie games will be the device's support" and now it seems he's trying to do the same shit to the PS4! ****!
Listen you dumb shit! AAA exclusive games have always been the major draw to specific platforms and always will be. It's about the content.
I think this guy is a god damn Nintendo spy; Yoshida = Yoshi.
I think you need to chill out, man. The third party will provide plenty of AAA level games on a console outselling the PS2. Take things into perspective. Don't call for his head until E3 2015 turns into an Indie-fest.
Yoshida needs to be fired. He screwed over PSV owners with all the "indie games will be the device's support" and now it seems he's trying to do the same shit to the PS4! ****!
Listen you dumb shit! AAA exclusive games have always been the major draw to specific platforms and always will be. It's about the content.
I think this guy is a god damn Nintendo spy; Yoshida = Yoshi.
I think you need to chill out, man. The third party will provide plenty of AAA level games on a console outselling the PS2. Take things into perspective. Don't call for his head until E3 2015 turns into an Indie-fest.
Third party production has been slowing down, too.
Um he wasnt talking about Sony's own first party studios he was saying that in GENERAL not just the PS4.. the costs for developing games in the industry is getting higher which means there will be lesser AAA's for all consoles he did not say anything about Sony's own studios not producing any AAA games for the PS4 but is in general concerning all systems and developers.
That being said, they have a pretty good roster of AAA budget games either deep in development, or just starting development. Driveclub, The Order, LittleBigPlanet 3, Bloodborne, Ratchet, Sucker Punch next project, MLB The Show (annual franchise), Gran Turismo 7, Uncharted 4, Guerrilla unknown project (at least a couple years into it), Santa Monica unknown project (also a couple of years into it), Quantic Dream (ditto).
So unless they do some massive cuts, it doesn't seem like there will be much of a drop-off of AAA titles compared to last gen. If they arent going to expand the roster of massive budget AAA titles, hopefully they will at least take some more risks with some more medium budget titles. I don't understand why games either have to have a giant $50 or $100 Million budget, or practically no budget. How about somewhere in between?
I don't think quantic dream is owned by sony
Didn't say they were. From Software (Bloodborne) and Insomniac (Ratchet) aren't owned by Sony either. However Quantic Dream has already confirmed they are working on a PS4 title just like those other two.
Um he wasnt talking about Sony's own first party studios he was saying that in GENERAL not just the PS4.. the costs for developing games in the industry is getting higher which means there will be lesser AAA's for all consoles he did not say anything about Sony's own studios not producing any AAA games for the PS4 but is in general concerning all systems and developers.
*facepalm* lems
Lemmings: "Sorry, cow. It's only gonna affect Sony! Our selective hearing CAN'T be wrong!"
@y7jzdgy: What weak damage control???? Microsoft are still hanging onto Halo to pull them through,
Yoshida is right stop being such a fanboy, games are taking longer to make, that means less games in the short term, means indies are playing a bigger role to keep us going until the next big AAA game, that goes to MS aswel, they have money, so what if there not going to invest in more first party studio's then there going to be in the same boat as Sony.
Once you start making games at the highest level then come back and talk, it took long enough to make games last gen let alone this gen, o yea I forgot most games now are coming out so unfinished that every patch is a major release, that's what it's come down to. If anyone is doing damage control it's you getting all defensive because I mention MS, Do you see MS bringing out games anytime soon??? no I didn't think so were all in the same boat.
And watching the Cows spin this as a good thing after all last gen screaming first party and how PS is the first party king and that's all that matters. LMFAO!!!!!! Any BS spewing from the Cows mouths now is all BS spinning this as a good thing and saying hey we love indies is a total joke and shows how butthurt they are.
Xbox One CONFIRMED!!! The best and most first party exclusives system PERIOD!!!. So have fun with your trashy 1080p Indies LMFAO!!!
He's comparing this gen to last. Sony overwhelmed the 360 with exclusives. Some would say they had too many considering their financial situation.. Now the Bone might actually have a shot at competing with exclusives this gen.
the indie cycle is not exclusive to PS4. people are taking advantage of the massive amount of resources available to learn how to turn their dreams into reality. people can learn design and development for insanely cheap now. I think it's awesome, regardless of what platform they develop for. it's only going to increase more and more, and i think the quality will only get better as time goes on.
Microsoft aren't going to fund games that don't turn a profit, they're every bit as susceptible to this as Sony and it's not like Yoshida is the only one saying this.
Personally the sooner the cost of triple A games comes down the better, it does little but continues the status quo ensuring the eighth revision of the same game released yearly with only minor improvements and the same rehashed formulas being put into any new IP. Sony's really been the only one to give something creative a shot in years.
Of course they wont, but they'll take chances on new IPs. they funded ryse, titanfalll (kinda) , scalebound, DR3, Sunset Overdrive, Forza + Horizon, Halo, Gears, quantum break that we know of recently that's 9 AAA games. MS said they invested 1 billion in bringing 15 exclusive games to xbox with 8 of them being new IPs at E3 last year. That's a lot of money to throw around. Meanwhile Sony promised me 20 games in the 1st year and never made it close. More like 5 or 6 by the time November rolls around and are now saying we will see less AAA games this gen then last. Not a good outlook IMO
ryse,... DR3... that we know of recently that's 9 AAA game
Lems are so full of fail, just releasing a title makes a game AAA for them, if cows had such low standards they'd be calling Knack AAA. What a desperate bunch of clowns.
Also, Sunset Overdrive is AAA now? Scalebound, umm do lems even know anything about it haha wow? Also trying to claim credit for the non MS owned mutiplatform Titanfall? desperation much. Must have forgot that Sony fully funded and own Planetside II and HZ1Z damn!
There is no need for me to even put this in perspective and post and compare the "AAA" PS4 titles that we know about against your xbox 1 list because it would be like shooting to kill inside of a room full of dead people. It is a fact that the PS4 not only has a stronger line up of titles but the list is longer.
Lol, Ryse AAA, what kind of desperate nonsense will these cornballs try to pass off next.
yet the PS4 will always have more triple A budget titled than the X1 cuz Sony has more studios under their belt
You're missing the articles point. If sony is saying you will see less of them because cost is too high, that would mean they would have their own studios pushing out smaller indie like games over big AAA games. Obviously ND wouldn't be one of them but MM, SSM, GG, SP etc could all wind up making smaller A or AA games instead
Oh and XB1 games are gonna be cheaper to make? This will be a common accurance across all platforms. it will require several times the work to develop more advanced games not just on PS4, but all platforms.
Of course not, but MS isn't the one saying that AAA games are getting too expensive so you should expect to see less but its ok because we have indies. MS has more money to fund these games.
Microsoft aren't going to fund games that don't turn a profit, they're every bit as susceptible to this as Sony and it's not like Yoshida is the only one saying this.
Personally the sooner the cost of triple A games comes down the better, it does little but continues the status quo ensuring the eighth revision of the same game released yearly with only minor improvements and the same rehashed formulas being put into any new IP. Sony's really been the only one to give something creative a shot in years.
Of course they wont, but they'll take chances on new IPs. they funded ryse, titanfalll (kinda) , scalebound, DR3, Sunset Overdrive, Forza + Horizon, Halo, Gears, quantum break that we know of recently that's 9 AAA games. MS said they invested 1 billion in bringing 15 exclusive games to xbox with 8 of them being new IPs at E3 last year. That's a lot of money to throw around. Meanwhile Sony promised me 20 games in the 1st year and never made it close. More like 5 or 6 by the time November rolls around and are now saying we will see less AAA games this gen then last. Not a good outlook IMO
ryse,... DR3... that we know of recently that's 9 AAA game
Lems are so full of fail, just releasing a title makes a game AAA for them, if cows had such low standards they'd be calling Knack AAA. What a desperate bunch of clowns.
Also, Sunset Overdrive is AAA now? Scalebound, umm do lems even know anything about it haha wow? Also trying to claim credit for the non MS owned mutiplatform Titanfall? desperation much. Must have forgot that Sony fully funded and own Planetside II and HZ1Z damn!
There is not need for me to even put this in perspective and post and compare the "AAA" PS4 titles that we know about against your xbox 1 list because it would be like shooting to kill inside of a room full of dead people. It is a fact that the PS4 not only has stronger line up of titles but the list is longer.
Lol, Ryse AAA, what kind of desperate nonsense will these cornballs try to pass off next.
And yet Xbox One has the only AAA games thus far and not just one but two of them
yet the PS4 will always have more triple A budget titled than the X1 cuz Sony has more studios under their belt
You're missing the articles point. If sony is saying you will see less of them because cost is too high, that would mean they would have their own studios pushing out smaller indie like games over big AAA games. Obviously ND wouldn't be one of them but MM, SSM, GG, SP etc could all wind up making smaller A or AA games instead
Oh and XB1 games are gonna be cheaper to make? This will be a common accurance across all platforms. it will require several times the work to develop more advanced games not just on PS4, but all platforms.
Of course not, but MS isn't the one saying that AAA games are getting too expensive so you should expect to see less but its ok because we have indies. MS has more money to fund these games.
Microsoft aren't going to fund games that don't turn a profit, they're every bit as susceptible to this as Sony and it's not like Yoshida is the only one saying this.
Personally the sooner the cost of triple A games comes down the better, it does little but continues the status quo ensuring the eighth revision of the same game released yearly with only minor improvements and the same rehashed formulas being put into any new IP. Sony's really been the only one to give something creative a shot in years.
Of course they wont, but they'll take chances on new IPs. they funded ryse, titanfalll (kinda) , scalebound, DR3, Sunset Overdrive, Forza + Horizon, Halo, Gears, quantum break that we know of recently that's 9 AAA games. MS said they invested 1 billion in bringing 15 exclusive games to xbox with 8 of them being new IPs at E3 last year. That's a lot of money to throw around. Meanwhile Sony promised me 20 games in the 1st year and never made it close. More like 5 or 6 by the time November rolls around and are now saying we will see less AAA games this gen then last. Not a good outlook IMO
ryse,... DR3... that we know of recently that's 9 AAA game
Lems are so full of fail, just releasing a title makes a game AAA for them, if cows had such low standards they'd be calling Knack AAA. What a desperate bunch of clowns.
Also, Sunset Overdrive is AAA now? Scalebound, umm do lems even know anything about it haha wow? Also trying to claim credit for the non MS owned mutiplatform Titanfall? desperation much. Must have forgot that Sony fully funded and own Planetside II and HZ1Z damn!
There is not need for me to even put this in perspective and post and compare the "AAA" PS4 titles that we know about against your xbox 1 list because it would be like shooting to kill inside of a room full of dead people. It is a fact that the PS4 not only has stronger line up of titles but the list is longer.
Lol, Ryse AAA, what kind of desperate nonsense will these cornballs try to pass off next.
Lol leave it to cows and start the SDF by going way off topic and missing the point. The point being you don't know if an AAA game is going to be AAA when your funding it. But you shoot for it with the budget and backing you give it. Sure many AAA attempts will fail and fall into AA or flop status, But that really isn't the point. The point was MS is spending money to put out full retail AAA games. Some reach it, some don't. Sony is basically saying they aren't going to fund as many AAA games this gen as they did last gen. basically Kaz has 1 more year to right the ship or he's fired so he's not willing to take big risks at the moment. MS isn't worried about pouring in money on games to take chances and land some AAA content. Nobody can predict how many will actually hit AAA but at least they are trying, Sony doesn't sound like they are going forward (outside of ND because they make sony money). Then you list 2 F2P games (1 a port of a year old PC game) as them funding AAA games? no F2P aren't AAA games.
ryse,... DR3... that we know of recently that's 9 AAA game
Lems are so full of fail, just releasing a title makes a game AAA for them, if cows had such low standards they'd be calling Knack AAA. What a desperate bunch of clowns.
Also, Sunset Overdrive is AAA now? Scalebound, umm do lems even know anything about it haha wow? Also trying to claim credit for the non MS owned mutiplatform Titanfall? desperation much. Must have forgot that Sony fully funded and own Planetside II and HZ1Z damn!
There is not need for me to even put this in perspective and post and compare the "AAA" PS4 titles that we know about against your xbox 1 list because it would be like shooting to kill inside of a room full of dead people. It is a fact that the PS4 not only has stronger line up of titles but the list is longer.
Lol, Ryse AAA, what kind of desperate nonsense will these cornballs try to pass off next.
And yet Xbox One has the only AAA games thus far and not just one but two of them
Forza 5 AAA
Titanfall AAA
The Cow butthurt never ends
Um multiplatform games count as AAA for a platform now???
You lems need to stop flip flopping I thought your guys said multiplats don't matter anymore and only Exclusive games make a platform. in either case you are wrong, since multiplatform games count.
Assassin's Creed IV AAA, superior PS4 version
Rayman Ledgens AAA, superor PS4 version
Sound shapes AAA
Lem lies, hypocracy and double standards never end haha. next up: Multiplats only count when it helps the argument for my preferred platform.
ryse,... DR3... that we know of recently that's 9 AAA game
Lems are so full of fail, just releasing a title makes a game AAA for them, if cows had such low standards they'd be calling Knack AAA. What a desperate bunch of clowns.
Also, Sunset Overdrive is AAA now? Scalebound, umm do lems even know anything about it haha wow? Also trying to claim credit for the non MS owned mutiplatform Titanfall? desperation much. Must have forgot that Sony fully funded and own Planetside II and HZ1Z damn!
There is not need for me to even put this in perspective and post and compare the "AAA" PS4 titles that we know about against your xbox 1 list because it would be like shooting to kill inside of a room full of dead people. It is a fact that the PS4 not only has stronger line up of titles but the list is longer.
Lol, Ryse AAA, what kind of desperate nonsense will these cornballs try to pass off next.
Lol leave it to cows and start the SDF by going way off topic and missing the point. The point being you don't know if an AAA game is going to be AAA when your funding it. But you shoot for it with the budget and backing you give it. Sure many AAA attempts will fail and fall into AA or flop status, But that really isn't the point. The point was MS is spending money to put out full retail AAA games. Some reach it, some don't. Sony is basically saying they aren't going to fund as many AAA games this gen as they did last gen. basically Kaz has 1 more year to right the ship or he's fired so he's not willing to take big risks at the moment. MS isn't worried about pouring in money on games to take chances and land some AAA content. Nobody can predict how many will actually hit AAA but at least they are trying, Sony doesn't sound like they are going forward (outside of ND because they make sony money). Then you list 2 F2P games (1 a port of a year old PC game) as them funding AAA games? no F2P aren't AAA games.
No simple minded lem, the point is, EVEN with Yoshida making his prediction and trying to be realistic about what can be able to accomplish in this generation of games with regards to producing AAAs...they are STILL producing and funding more of those "AAA" caliber titles than any other console manufacturer in the industry and certainly more than MS.
MS is completely behind Sony in the number of AAA projects in development right now even with Yoshida's modest prediction. You talk about "sony" not trying? Are you serious, did you watch E3? MS had NOTHING to show except a remaster of old halo games, Forza, and Sunset Overdrive everything else was CGI for unproven developers that might be nothing but indie junk...and even with those games listed Sony still had more exclusives.
Would you like to do a side by side comparison of the games both Sony and MS has announced and coming out? If you are stupid enough to say yes then I will post a comparison that proves you wrong and leaves you looking clueless about the game company you are trying to hype vs the one you are trying to scrutinize.
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