I bought a PS4 to play amazing next gen games like flower and resogun.
and im guessing everyone else did too because there are no other fkn games to play!!
So it looks like there will be less AAA games as Sony focuses more on Indie games. Is this the confirmation of IndieStation4. Phil Spencer on the other hand has been all about AAA exclusives coming to the Xbox One.
ah ok i've got an answer for that.
as a sony fanboy, all of a sudden i love indie games. those aaa games on the xbox one i don't know anything about - they're bad games. they cannot compare to playstation games like the last guardian, uncharted 4, or bloodborne.
you may argue that those games i listed aren't even out, well do you really think you've got a strong argument there? i mean really?
just because the games aren't out, or just because we've only seen in-engine animations - it doesn't mean sony are doing anything wrong. they're doing it exactly perfect, and i would have done it exactly the same.
sony domination continuation.
That's right buddy. I second that notion. Here Here To Sony!
Praise Godny! :P
It does make sense from them, but abandoning it entirely would be folly. I think they will try to do more projects compared to bigger more ambitious projects
So it looks like there will be less AAA games as Sony focuses more on Indie games. Is this the confirmation of IndieStation4. Phil Spencer on the other hand has been all about AAA exclusives coming to the Xbox One.
ah ok i've got an answer for that.
as a sony fanboy, all of a sudden i love indie games. those aaa games on the xbox one i don't know anything about - they're bad games. they cannot compare to playstation games like the last guardian, uncharted 4, or bloodborne.
you may argue that those games i listed aren't even out, well do you really think you've got a strong argument there? i mean really?
just because the games aren't out, or just because we've only seen in-engine animations - it doesn't mean sony are doing anything wrong. they're doing it exactly perfect, and i would have done it exactly the same.
sony domination continuation.
That's right buddy. I second that notion. Here Here To Sony!
Praise Godny! :P
#Tell 'em
@Scipio8: I guess this explains why we didn't see The LAst Guardian at the E3 and why some employees at Sony's 1st party studios had to be let go. Sony's finances are still taking a big hit is seems.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/14/5715704/sony-earnings-fy-2013
Only one exclusive this Fall, and none have released this year besides Kinect(lol) Sports Rivals. I guess SONY wins 2014.
Everyone knows SONY will deliver the exclusives, just like they always have. They came out a year after the 360 and still beat them last gen. That's not going to magically change. You know it, I know and the world knows it.
What are you talking about Heil68? This fall 2014 exclusive lineup?
XB1: Master Chief Collection, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive. Dance Central Spotlight, Fantasia: Music Evovled, Shape Up, Project Spark
PS4: Last of Us Remastered, Drive Club, Samurai Warrior 4, LittleBigPlanet 3
Microsoft has announced they've sold over 84 million XBox 360's. Sony hasn't said anything after the 80 million they sold. So no, Sony didn't win anything last gen. They are still getting clobbered in software sales by millions. The XBox 360 still has more games released for their system. No magic can save the PS4's 2014 exclusive lineup this fall.
@Scipio8: I guess this explains why we didn't see The LAst Guardian at the E3 and why some employees at Sony's 1st party studios had to be let go. Sony's finances are still taking a big hit is seems.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/14/5715704/sony-earnings-fy-2013
Kool, now explain why we didn't see Quantum Break at E3?? lol lem logic..
Were you on a deserted island when this announcement was made by Remedy?
http://www.gamespot.com/videos/quantum-break-gamescom-announcement/2300-6419007/
They announced BEFORE the E3 that Quantum Break wasn't going to be there and it would be shown at Gamescom. Misinformed troll. You must have fell out of the loop when you got lost in Fantasy Land.
as evidenced by the first year plus of games schedules on ps4. X1 has more and better games end of story. Enjoy the indies cows as the best place to play AAA titles is on X1.
Evidence? Compare the non arcade/indie titles you can play on ps4 that I can't on X1 to what I can play on X1 that you can't on ps4.
Go ahead and post the xbone list.
This should be fun.
RULES
We can go by GS only or metacritic for released games with scores *wink* You choose the site to go by for scores as it won't matter.
Also feel free to list any title that has been announced for xbone's line up as of E3. i will do the same, and we will see how they stack up. And no game that are both on PS4 and x1 agreed? K
GO!
I'll go ahead and do both lists for you for this whole year..
AAA(development not final score btw) Games on PS4 not available on X1 for Calendar year 2014: Infamous SS, MLB the Show, Little Big PLanet 3, Driveclub, TLOU remaster(if you want to consider though just came out last year)
AAA Games on X1 not available on PS4 for Calendar year 2014: Titanfall, Project Spark, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo: The Masterchief Collection, Fantasia, Shape Up, Dance Central Spotlight, D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die, Kinect Sports Rivals
To go back and cover from launch of both consoles to end of 2013:
PS4 - Knack and Killzone Shadowfall
X1 - Dead Rising 3, Ryse: Son of Rome, Forza Motorsport 5
Oh and for actual Gamespot scoring an exclusive AAA... PS4 doesn't have one. X1 does.. two actually that aren't available for playstation owners. Keep waiting sony fans, your time will come eventually; though maybe not like in the past if the news for this thread hold true
Just a few things, one your PS4 list is incomplete and include games in the xbox list that don't fit for retail. AAA Fantasia, really? And looking at Titanfall you are including games not on the other system as well..but left out those games out from the PS4 list (I'll fix that). here let me amend your list and bring it up to speed to how it should look..
first the issues with your lists
Fantasia is an indie level game, I thought we were comparing true AAA leve titles?
lol, dat list pad for xbox one! Also D4 was a game announced E3 2013 and has been mentioned since and was MIA at this E3 and has NO projected release date. At this point that game is working on The Last Guardian vapor status but you list it for 2014 title? Other than these I think your submission are ok so lets move on.
xbone
Titanfall 9.0, Kinect Sprots Rivals 5.0; AAA?,
TOTAL 2
PS4
Tropico 8.0, MLB: The Show 8.0, Infamous Second Son 8.0, Final Fantasy XIV is reborn 8.0
TOTAL 4
xbone
Sunset OverDrive, Halo collection remake, Project Spark, Shape up, Dance Central Spotlight, Forza Horizon 2
TOTAL 6
pS4
TLOU remastered, Planet Side II, Drive Club, Little Big Planet 3, War Thunder
TOTAL 5
XBOX1 = 8
pS4 = 9
Also when you look at the caliber and class of each title in question it really puts things in perspective. The only reason why lems thought they had more games is because xbone is bottom heavy when PS4 has been getting games all year long. Even if Sony says they will release less AAA games then in the past, they still go ahead and release more of them and at a higher quality than MS. (lol Kinect Spots Rivals 5.0 in the xbone list)
The AAA game list for the ps4 is pretty good I can only assume that Sony is going to cut back on the new ip AAA games.
@kinectthedots:
I wasn't referring to score by calling them AAA titles but simply non-arcade/indie games. Pretty sure Fantasia is a full game also... At any rate, thanks for proving that the ps4 has few new games for 2014.
TLOU, War Thunder, and Final Fantasy all released LAST YEAR. Tropico 5 may be good and i did overlook that (also on 360 but not X1). Granted the MC Collection is old games but not games simply from last year or even from the last generation. It is practically a new game with Halo 2 multiplayer brought back from 10 years ago by itself. But if you want to cut it out because i'm discrediting TLOU remake...
PS4 = 6 games in 2014
X1 = 8 games in 2014
So there you have it. I went ahead and made the score closer then the reality actually is but none-the-less an X1 victory. Quality is subjective i know but lining up game for game and from what i've seen, I would likely take Sunset over Infamous; Horizon 2 over Driveclub; Project Spark over LBP3; Titanfall over Planetside 2; Masterchief Collection over any of those ps3 games from last year.
Getting real tired of this Indy games focus, a few Indies every now and then, not more . Not that I'm the biggest fan of AAA games but I like them a lot more than Indies.
This was already obvious, you needed Yoshida to tell you that?
Well clearly it wasn't so obvious to cows.
Ps4 is lacking in exclusives, everyone knows that already.
The reason people arent freaking out about is becuz everyone knows SONY has killer first party, so the games will be coming.
Get over the PS2 nostalgia those days are long gone. Most of Sony's first party games are getting pretty damn long in the tooth we need new IP's to keep things fresh and interesting.
This doesn't surprise me at all. The company is in a restructuring and cost cutting. It makes sense, because people will still buy the console.
Getting real tired of this Indy games focus, a few Indies every now and then, not more . Not that I'm the biggest fan of AAA games but I like them a lot more than Indies.
This was already obvious, you needed Yoshida to tell you that?
Well clearly it wasn't so obvious to cows.
Ps4 is lacking in exclusives, everyone knows that already.
The reason people arent freaking out about is becuz everyone knows SONY has killer first party, so the games will be coming.
Get over the PS2 nostalgia those days are long gone. Most of Sony's first party games are getting pretty damn long in the tooth we need new IP's to keep things fresh and interesting.
Uncharted was a new IP. Last of Us was a new IP. LBP was, Infamous was and so were Demon Souls and Heavy Rain.
We aren't even 1 year into the gen, so what makes you think we won't see plenty more new IPs from so much as half of the devs responsible for that incomplete list?
There's plenty of existing IPs as well and those obviously matter still.
Yo lemmings, where's your first party AAA? They barely showed up at E3.
Looks like MS is going down the same route.
@kinectthedots: that's a terrible list, only AAA PS4 is Infamous. We still don't know if DC will be any good and LBP is LBP. Wow, so glad got the Xbone, after the TF goodness can't wait for Sunset OD
Sunset Under-ressed is AA at best.
Dude Quantum Break is real and will be playable at Gamescom, the same cant be said of TLG, just Sony PR bs to prevent backlash.
Can't wait to see the downgrades.
What are you talking about Heil68? This fall 2014 exclusive lineup?
XB1: Master Chief Collection, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive. Dance Central Spotlight, Fantasia: Music Evovled, Shape Up, Project Spark
Ports, cross-gen, AA, Kinect guff, Kinect guff, already out. That's a tragic "line up."
Getting real tired of this Indy games focus, a few Indies every now and then, not more . Not that I'm the biggest fan of AAA games but I like them a lot more than Indies.
This was already obvious, you needed Yoshida to tell you that?
Well clearly it wasn't so obvious to cows.
Ps4 is lacking in exclusives, everyone knows that already.
The reason people arent freaking out about is becuz everyone knows SONY has killer first party, so the games will be coming.
Get over the PS2 nostalgia those days are long gone. Most of Sony's first party games are getting pretty damn long in the tooth we need new IP's to keep things fresh and interesting.
Uncharted was a new IP. Last of Us was a new IP. LBP was, Infamous was and so were Demon Souls and Heavy Rain.
We aren't even 1 year into the gen, so what makes you think we won't see plenty more new IPs from so much as half of the devs responsible for that incomplete list?
There's plenty of existing IPs as well and those obviously matter still.
We're now going on the 4th installment of Uncharted, TLoU is a new IP but Sony are releasing it just 8 months later as "remastered" for more $$$ milkage, Infamous is on it's 3rd, Demon Souls??? Heavy rain is still new. We'll see more new IP's from Sony but I wouldn't say "plenty" and what type of new IP's; indies? Keep in mind that Yoshida has already stated that there will be less AAA games for the PS4 because they are too costly to make. It looks like the X1 and (or) the PC could be better alternatives for AAA games this generation. Sony have fallen far since the PS2 days.
It's too bad the game industry seems to have forgotten the fact there are games in between "AAA" and "indie".
This ^^ .
Getting real tired of this Indy games focus, a few Indies every now and then, not more . Not that I'm the biggest fan of AAA games but I like them a lot more than Indies.
This was already obvious, you needed Yoshida to tell you that?
Well clearly it wasn't so obvious to cows.
Ps4 is lacking in exclusives, everyone knows that already.
The reason people arent freaking out about is becuz everyone knows SONY has killer first party, so the games will be coming.
Get over the PS2 nostalgia those days are long gone. Most of Sony's first party games are getting pretty damn long in the tooth we need new IP's to keep things fresh and interesting.
Uncharted was a new IP. Last of Us was a new IP. LBP was, Infamous was and so were Demon Souls and Heavy Rain.
We aren't even 1 year into the gen, so what makes you think we won't see plenty more new IPs from so much as half of the devs responsible for that incomplete list?
There's plenty of existing IPs as well and those obviously matter still.
We're now going on the 4th installment of Uncharted, TLoU is a new IP but Sony are releasing it just 8 months later as "remastered" for more $$$ milkage, Infamous is on it's 3rd, Demon Souls??? Heavy rain is still new. We'll see more new IP's from Sony but I wouldn't say "plenty" and what type of new IP's; indies? Keep in mind that Yoshida has already stated that there will be less AAA games for the PS4 because they are too costly to make. It looks like the X1 and (or) the PC could be better alternatives for AAA games this generation. Sony have fallen far since the PS2 days.
The point I made just flew right over your head. I was specifically referring to new IPs LAST GEN. Because you somehow don't think these companies will do the same this gen or can't. Naughty Dog alone created 2 brand new IPs just last gen. 1 has become a AAA FRANCHISE. Want to cry about milkage on a remaster, go bitch about everyone else cashing in be it NIntendo with Windwaker, Rockstar with GTA V, or MS with the halo collection which you could buy for like a total of $30 if you went to a gamestop right now. We all know ND loves making new frachines with new hardware as they first made Crash for ps1 and then Jak for ps2. Infamous, again was a new IP from sucker punch LAST gen after the team moved on from Sly and left that franchise to Sanzaru Games. Demon Souls was a new IP and Dark Souls was not a sequel, but a spiritual successor and became a multiplat franchise. Now we have Bloodborne which is another new IP.
Yoshida wasn't specifically referring to ps4 nor do I think he even has the ability to make a call like that so early into the ps4's life span. He said this of the vita as quite a few sources now have shown which makes sense given its failures. Also, in general one could say AAAs are going to decrease industry-wide considering the costs to make such games now. But no, all those first parties aren't just going to go away and big 3rd parties won't ignore the best-selling system that's also the most capable hardware-wise. If anything, this is more like a barrier to entry sort of deal when viewed in this manner.
Getting real tired of this Indy games focus, a few Indies every now and then, not more . Not that I'm the biggest fan of AAA games but I like them a lot more than Indies.
This was already obvious, you needed Yoshida to tell you that?
Well clearly it wasn't so obvious to cows.
Ps4 is lacking in exclusives, everyone knows that already.
The reason people arent freaking out about is becuz everyone knows SONY has killer first party, so the games will be coming.
Get over the PS2 nostalgia those days are long gone. Most of Sony's first party games are getting pretty damn long in the tooth we need new IP's to keep things fresh and interesting.
I dont understand how anything I said has anything to do with the PS2 day or some one having nostalgia for the PS2 days.
Im not nostalgic about PS2 days... I wasnt even into gaming that much durring the PS2 days.
Im one of those people who didnt give a crap about BC capability on PS3. I dont really give a shit about the PS2.
Just a few things, one your PS4 list is incomplete and include games in the xbox list that don't fit for retail. AAA Fantasia, really? And looking at Titanfall you are including games not on the other system as well..but left out those games out from the PS4 list (I'll fix that). here let me amend your list and bring it up to speed to how it should look..
first the issues with your lists
Fantasia is an indie level game, I thought we were comparing true AAA leve titles?
lol, dat list pad for xbox one! Also D4 was a game announced E3 2013 and has been mentioned since and was MIA at this E3 and has NO projected release date. At this point that game is working on The Last Guardian vapor status but you list it for 2014 title? Other than these I think your submission are ok so lets move on.
xbone
Titanfall 9.0, Kinect Sprots Rivals 5.0; AAA?,
TOTAL 2
PS4
Tropico 8.0, MLB: The Show 8.0, Infamous Second Son 8.0, Final Fantasy XIV is reborn 8.0
TOTAL 4
xbone
Sunset OverDrive, Halo collection remake, Project Spark, Shape up, Dance Central Spotlight, Forza Horizon 2
TOTAL 6
pS4
TLOU remastered, Planet Side II, Drive Club, Little Big Planet 3, War Thunder
TOTAL 5
XBOX1 = 8
pS4 = 9
Also when you look at the caliber and class of each title in question it really puts things in perspective. The only reason why lems thought they had more games is because xbone is bottom heavy when PS4 has been getting games all year long. Even if Sony says they will release less AAA games then in the past, they still go ahead and release more of them and at a higher quality than MS. (lol Kinect Spots Rivals 5.0 in the xbone list)
Your list is flawed. What about KZSF, Killer Instinct, Forza 5, Ryse, and Dead Rising 3?
Xbox1 = 12
PS4 = 10
SSOD, HALO, and Horizon 2 has more replay value that anything the ps4 has to offer no matter how you spin it. Most likely rate higher as I said from the begining its going to be a 3rd party extravaganza and indie welcome mat on the ps4 they just showed us they games until 2016 from first party they just lack the money We been Kickstarting the Ps4 from the get go.
Just a few things, one your PS4 list is incomplete and include games in the xbox list that don't fit for retail. AAA Fantasia, really? And looking at Titanfall you are including games not on the other system as well..but left out those games out from the PS4 list (I'll fix that). here let me amend your list and bring it up to speed to how it should look..
first the issues with your lists
Fantasia is an indie level game, I thought we were comparing true AAA leve titles?
lol, dat list pad for xbox one! Also D4 was a game announced E3 2013 and has been mentioned since and was MIA at this E3 and has NO projected release date. At this point that game is working on The Last Guardian vapor status but you list it for 2014 title? Other than these I think your submission are ok so lets move on.
xbone
Titanfall 9.0, Kinect Sprots Rivals 5.0; AAA?,
TOTAL 2
PS4
Tropico 8.0, MLB: The Show 8.0, Infamous Second Son 8.0, Final Fantasy XIV is reborn 8.0
TOTAL 4
xbone
Sunset OverDrive, Halo collection remake, Project Spark, Shape up, Dance Central Spotlight, Forza Horizon 2
TOTAL 6
pS4
TLOU remastered, Planet Side II, Drive Club, Little Big Planet 3, War Thunder
TOTAL 5
XBOX1 = 8
pS4 = 9
Also when you look at the caliber and class of each title in question it really puts things in perspective. The only reason why lems thought they had more games is because xbone is bottom heavy when PS4 has been getting games all year long. Even if Sony says they will release less AAA games then in the past, they still go ahead and release more of them and at a higher quality than MS. (lol Kinect Spots Rivals 5.0 in the xbone list)
Your list is flawed. What about KZSF, Killer Instinct, Forza 5, Ryse, and Dead Rising 3?
Xbox1 = 12
PS4 = 10
My list isn't flawed or can't you read "2014 totals"?
And if anything my list was flawed on the part of leaving out more PS4 games of 2014: Natural Doctrine, Samurai Warrior 4, H1Z1, Infamous First Light (not DLC stand alone game) and Helldrivers all coming to PS4 this fall
What you are talking about are 2013 games, and in that case you left out knack for PS4 so even your correction to my so-called flawed list was flawed.
so it's:
xbox = 12
PS4 = 16
My list isn't flawed or can't you read "2014 totals"?
And if anything my list was flawed on the part of leaving out more PS4 games of 2014: Natural Doctrine, Samurai Warrior 4, H1Z1, Infamous First Light (not DLC stand alone game) and Helldrivers all coming to PS4 this fall
What you are talking about are 2013 games, and in that case you left out knack for PS4 so even your correction to my so-called flawed list was flawed.
so it's:
xbox = 12
PS4 = 16
Yea my fault. I guess because they both haven't been out for that long it still feels like those games just came out. But the fact remains you guys can't say M$ will follow suite, M$ has way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money than Sony and a 1% chance of going bankrupt vs Sony 79%. Phil Spencer will have a blank check to do whatever he wants for xbox. Already 20 xbox exclusives announced for 2014 and 15, not counting whatever games they got planned for TGS.
Tropico is a 360 game also. And if I had to pick one system based off of just game content I would pick xbox. It seems xbox games have more replay value at this point.
Yeah we get it...why spend millions making blockbuster games? Our rabid fan base will gladly buy "remastered" PS2 and PS3 games, and indies from the PC.
So it looks like there will be less AAA games as Sony focuses more on Indie games. Is this the confirmation of IndieStation4. Phil Spencer on the other hand has been all about AAA exclusives coming to the Xbox One.
ah ok i've got an answer for that.
as a sony fanboy, all of a sudden i love indie games. those aaa games on the xbox one i don't know anything about - they're bad games. they cannot compare to playstation games like the last guardian, uncharted 4, or bloodborne.
you may argue that those games i listed aren't even out, well do you really think you've got a strong argument there? i mean really?
just because the games aren't out, or just because we've only seen in-engine animations - it doesn't mean sony are doing anything wrong. they're doing it exactly perfect, and i would have done it exactly the same.
sony domination continuation.
LOL that is good.
So have the lemmings explained where all the AAA megatons were at MS' E3 conference?
Phil Spencer will have a blank check to do whatever he wants for xbox.
I love that there are people who believe this.
Already 20 xbox exclusives announced for 2014 and 15, not counting whatever games they got planned for TGS.
Yeah, more top quality exclusives like Lococycle, Crimson Dragon, Kinect Sports Rivals and Fighter Within.
Please dont read this as pro sony fanboy....
But we as gamers need to embrace, not necessarily indie games but non-AAA games... the dev cycle will not be able to sustain a AAA only landscape. We dont want to see what happened to the movie industry happen to the gaming industry... where it is completely controlled by big budget producers and all you get is shiny/ watered-down superhero clone movies.
yet the PS4 will always have more triple A budget titled than the X1 cuz Sony has more studios under their belt
This trend is industry wide... it's not just Sony.
oh and also this. No mid-tier developers now to overshadow indie devs, but now there's no 'inbetween' anymore so it's either AAA or indie. AAA development has skyrocketed and the bubble will burst at some point when publishers start getting luke warm returns against development costs. We need a mid-tier developer renaissance.
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