YOU left the state of the industry into microtransaction and lootbox hell. Stop it.

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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I feel that ever since the 2005's trailer of Killzone's E3 trailer video we have stumbled upon a screeching halt in video games and their gameplay department. There are little arguments you can make that not long after this time we are now in the worst state of the industry of Video Games. There are always exceptions, and it is nice to see Nintendo can still bring out masterful new iterations of their exclusive range. But those are exceptions.

It seems that gaming studios have a special budget specially designated to create the most immersive & scripted experience of their upcoming video games and showcase these experiences at big game conventions. As impressive and inspiring as Anthem's SCRIPTED trailer make it seem to be, please stop buying into the hype of these scheming marketeers. Demand a demo with a time limit on it, like in the times of the Xbox 360 E3 demo releases.

Legendary game studios have signed contracts (Bungie, Bioware, Lionhead, Rare) and their original cast of developers are longtime scattered across indie based companies. And Jason Jones man, what did you do? Sign a contract with Activision and make Destiny while getting rid of Marty & co? Other legendary developers (CD Project, EPIC Games, Turn 10, Polyphone, Naughty Dog, etc) are forced to reproduce the same formula every year or two since that is what sells. Some of these games are good. Again, there are exceptions. Let's not talk about EA and Ubisoft, this topic would turn into a ranting wall of text which it already is.

F*cking League of Legends & Dota 2. XP wrecking Dopamine sucking designed games to hook you in your prime years of youth until the day you pass.

Lootboxes. You want to be a pirate? Why has gambling invaded gaming so deeply? Who is participating so heavily & consistently for the superficial rush this concept gives? Where has your passion gone and strive for improvement gone?

After Gears of war, Uncharted & Crysis let's be perfectly honest with our self. The way we interact in our game environments has not been revolutionized but perfectly marketed towards casuals and are created to be as addicting as no less than a Casino intends you to play. We are playing re-skins and are willing to pay for remasters because deep down we know just how much better conceptually, structurally and fortified with deeper dynamics our games were.

The hype behind the Xbox one X is not without reason. People rather see their old games in re-skinned 4k textures and resolution than see which new IP flops next. Stop buying into Marketing and their intention to blindfold. Stop feeding reviewing sites like this one or any of those on Metacritic so much. I beg Bioware for me to be wrong and for Anthem to be the next step in gaming. But after being dissapointed and tricked into believing developers a multitude of times, I am sitting the hype surrounding any game out until further notice from the general public. Indie-world rejoice! Best of luck to you and your future endeavors I hope software improvements lead you to dethrone EA, Ubisoft, Sony, Microsoft & the likes of, with the small budgets you have.

Discuss.

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#2 FLOPPAGE_50
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what?

all i see is incoherent rambling

what direction are you taking this thread?

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#3 drummerdave9099
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No I did not. I have never bought DLC in my entire life. I have never payed in freemium games. I can't control what other people do though

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#4  Edited By deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

what?

all i see is incoherent rambling

what direction are you taking this thread?

Why do you find my post incoherent? It is intended to be viewed as a bulletin based topic

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@jahnee said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

what?

all i see is incoherent rambling

what direction are you taking this thread?

Why do you find my post incoherent?

your direction is all over the place

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#6 deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@jahnee said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

what?

all i see is incoherent rambling

what direction are you taking this thread?

Why do you find my post incoherent?

your direction is all over the place

Perfect, that was the intention

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#7 uninspiredcup
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Sorry about that.

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#8  Edited By aigis
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someone want to summarize?

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@uninspiredcup said:

Sorry about that.

You want to bring something to the table?

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@aigis said:

someone want to summarize?

Attention span gone to 0? Or was my mumbling unclear?

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As ridiculous as claiming that all 'humans are responsible for global warming '. Also, nice blog.

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Don’t really buy DLC unless it’s packaged into the game like those Game of the Year editions. As for loot boxes, I’m not a fan of them but they do not detract me from enjoying the campaign of the game.

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@nygamespotter said:

As ridiculous as claiming that all 'humans are responsible for global warming '. Also, nice blog.

Why do you think that is?

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I'm not into gaming for your benefit. I don't go to the movies so you'll be happy. They are for my entertainment and when they no longer do, I will do something else. Change cannot be prevented. If gaming has to go through shit, it has go through shit.

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#15  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@jahnee said:
@uninspiredcup said:

Sorry about that.

You want to bring something to the table?

The Rock was a good movie.

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#16  Edited By Sam3231
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It all makes sense now. Probably the most well thought out post I have ever seen on GameSpot forums. It is clear that you are some sort of brainiac and we all just peons, in fact I had to read your post 100 times, after awhile I kind of figured out it was just too deep for my understanding, I put it into Google Translate and translated it to Russian and read it there, and your brilliance really shined.

You pretty much just crushed all of System Wars in one post, if intelligence was measured by low prices you'd be Wal-Mart, if posting were an art form you'd be Da Vinci, if making sense of everything in the universe were throwing a football, you'd be Tom Brady.

YOU win.

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#17  Edited By Jak42
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We've had a few of these threads. And pretty much, this is the wrong crowd to rant on this topic.

Forum dwellers make up a small tiny part of the gaming market. Our purchasing habits are not mainstream. We don't jump in and buy brand new IP's and their season pass on launch. We very rarely if ever, buy DLC. And microtransactions are not common either. The people that do have the purchasing habits you aren't a fan of. Don't visit forums for the most part.

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#18 Ant_17
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I got SSX for PS3 used today.

Does that help?

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#19  Edited By deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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@Sam3231 said:

It all makes sense now. Probably the most well thought out post I have ever seen on GameSpot forums. It is clear that you are some sort of brainiac and we all just peons, in fact I had to read your post 100 times, after awhile I kind of figured out it was just too deep for my understanding, I put it into Google Translate and translated it to Russian and read it there, and your brilliance really shined.

You pretty much just crushed all of System Wars in one post, if intelligence was measured by low prices you be Wal-Mart, if posting were an art form you'd be Da Vinci, if making sense of everything in the universe were throwing a football, you'd be Tom Brady.

YOU win.

Why do you see me as having narcissistic intentions, seeking to be right instead of wanting the right thing?

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Holy wall of incoherent text!!!

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@jak42 said:

We've had a few of these threads. And pretty much, this is the wrong crowd to rant on this topic.

Forum dwellers make up a small tiny part of the gaming market. Our purchasing habits are not mainstream. We don't jump in and buy brand new IP's and their season pass on launch. We very rarely if ever, buy DLC. And microtransactions are not common either. The people that do have the purchasing habits you aren't a fan of. Don't visit forums for the most part.

Don't you think a few can have the power to influence many, if done in the right ways?

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#22  Edited By deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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Where I live we have a phrase for what you just typed

'fucking bollocks'

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@vfighter said:

Holy wall of incoherent text!!!

What would you suggest to improve the structure of the OP?

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@boycie said:

Where I live we have a phrase for what you just typed

'fucking bollocks'

To which part of the post do you relate that saying. And if to the whole, why relate that saying at all?

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#25  Edited By Jak42
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@jahnee: How's that working out for us 10+ years since paid DLC became a mainstream thing.

As I stated in the Mass Effect thread. Where a report came out people were spending 15k on ME Andromeda cards. The gaming industry has adopted the movie theater business model. Keep admission price low or stagnant (Retail price). Make money on concessions (food stand) in the form of DLC and microtransactions.

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@jahnee said:
@boycie said:

Where I live we have a phrase for what you just typed

'fucking bollocks'

To which part of the post do you relate that saying?

The words.

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@aigis said:

someone want to summarize?

TC is upset and edgy

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@jahnee said:
@vfighter said:

Holy wall of incoherent text!!!

What would you suggest to improve the structure of the OP?

Backspace

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@drlostrib said:
@jahnee said:
@vfighter said:

Holy wall of incoherent text!!!

What would you suggest to improve the structure of the OP?

Backspace

If you had one chance, would you rather not see it used optimally instead of destructively?

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#30  Edited By deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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@boycie said:
@jahnee said:
@boycie said:

Where I live we have a phrase for what you just typed

'fucking bollocks'

To which part of the post do you relate that saying?

The words.

Don't you agree that only out of intricate discussions you can form a united opinion?

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#32  Edited By QuadKnight
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I've never bought a lootbox in my life dude. Speak for yourself.

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@jak42 said:

We've had a few of these threads. And pretty much, this is the wrong crowd to rant on this topic.

Forum dwellers make up a small tiny part of the gaming market. Our purchasing habits are not mainstream. We don't jump in and buy brand new IP's and their season pass on launch. We very rarely if ever, buy DLC. And microtransactions are not common either.

This.

Gamers on forums make less than 5% of gamers most likely. Preaching to the wrong crowd.

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I buy the game and that's it....never payed for anything in game

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#35 ConanTheStoner
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Wasn't going to bother, but the douchey woke sheeple pic intrigues me.

Lets do dis.

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#36  Edited By deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Wasn't going to bother, but the douchey woke sheeple pic intrigues me.

Lets do dis.

Blaze it up *edit: HAHAHAHAHAHAH, the voice playback is hilarious when reading a link <3 Let me update that atleast

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Nope. I don't buy DLC.

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#39  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@jahnee said:

Blaze it up *edit: HAHAHAHAHAHAH, the voice playback is hilarious when reading a link <3 Let me update that atleast

lol but that's half the fun bro.

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#41  Edited By deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@jahnee said:

Blaze it up *edit: HAHAHAHAHAHAH, the voice playback is hilarious when reading a link <3 Let me update that atleast

lol but that's half the fun bro.

I listened to it myself. I loll'ed but I agree it's inaccessible. Wurth.

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But anyways man, I largely agree with a lot of that. I'm sure a lot of people here do. Preaching to the choir and all that.

Like I'm sure each of us have a gaming consumer sin or two under our belts, but I doubt there are too many poster boy suckers here.

I used to rant about this stuff a lot too, but it's really just pissing in the wind. The industry will push and push to see how far they can bend people over. People rarely push back. And when they do, the industry finds a way to repackage the same shit and sneak it through.

On the flip side of all that negativity though, there is a lot of good shit in gaming these days. You can absolutely enjoy this hobby and never run out of new things, while also easily avoiding a lot of the modern twisted bullshit.

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@jahnee said:
@drlostrib said:
@jahnee said:
@vfighter said:

Holy wall of incoherent text!!!

What would you suggest to improve the structure of the OP?

Backspace

If you had one chance, would you rather not see it used optimally instead of destructively?

just hold that sucker down

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@ConanTheStoner said:

But anyways man, I largely agree with a lot of that. I'm sure a lot of people here do. Preaching to the choir and all that.

Like I'm sure each of us have a gaming consumer sin or two under our belts, but I doubt there are too many poster boy suckers here.

I used to rant about this stuff a lot too, but it's really just pissing in the wind. The industry will push and push to see how far they can bend people over. People rarely push back. And when they do, the industry finds a way to repackage the same shit and sneak it through.

On the flip side of all that negativity though, there is a lot of good shit in gaming these days. You can absolutely enjoy this hobby and never run out of new things, while also easily avoiding a lot of the modern twisted bullshit.

Man I got to hand it to you, you delivered a really well worded responds. I salute you, well done man.
Right you are. Maybe I am stuck in the mist of things and should take what I can from it. Cheers everyone and game on!

But don't forget to remain balanced. Peace.

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@jahnee:

Part of it is the nature of the industry exploding. Contrary to popular belief, the Sony and Xbox brands ARE the casual market, whereas the Nintendo brand is a more niche enthusiast market.

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too long and not focused enough

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You're talking to the wrong crowd here, but is way more profitable for the companies to make a million people pay 10 dollars each than a thousand pay 100.

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#48  Edited By deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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@jennyfer1x said:

too long and not focused enough

The summary of my life. Thanks for your feedback. I am trying to seek a way to convince people of the better, but always fail in being too confronting or un-directed. I'll find a way through trail and error. As long as people support each other's and want to realize their shortcomings, and that people realize who has which advantage in what area. A united force if you will. The only way we can move forward out of this mess is through sheer willpower in believing we can do better than the current existing wave. Time is not infinite, and the moment will have passed you by if you have not been fully aware of it. But the moment is all we have, so rejoice in what is but positively support in what can be. I sat out of this forum for 10 years and now I will do it again. I'll see you in 10 years. Riddles are not here for yourself, but for the whole.

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Did you mean for all those words to come out together or did they fall out randomly?

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@jahnee said:
@aigis said:

someone want to summarize?

Attention span gone to 0? Or was my mumbling unclear?

Attention span wasnt there and the op wasnt helping much