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#52 Ninja-Hippo
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We're getting tired of you.

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Fanboys and haters are getting tired of me pointing out the poor logic behind their ramblings? I'm glad.

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There are no overrated devs-each one produces games that cater to different tastes, and those who believe a certain developer is overrated is simply one of the individuals not catered to.
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#54 Ninja-Hippo
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bungie was founded 1991 and they made myth and marathon in the mid to late 90. ok after almost 20 years, thats all they made and still be considered top?

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Myth and Marathon were a series of games. There were several of each. You're really showing off your bungie knowledge here. :roll:

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#55 Oroin
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Ok then I'll say bungie is overated. I didn't like myth. giving you a low amount of people expecting you to take on an army.. to prove I played it.. 2nd mission given a low amount of archers expected to kill one man guarded by a load of undead.. so I thing bungie is overated. PS- I liked Halo 3 because I like killing aliens/monsters kinda shooters.. Anyone knows any non-WWII shoters??

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You not liking one game personally does not make the developer over rated. Common sense. I dont think Brawl is that great but i appreciate that i'm clearly in the minority in that opinion and that it seems to keep a great many people happy. I wouldnt go telling them that Nintendo are over rated and that the game isnt good based on my one experience because i know it obviously just isnt for me.

;)

Why when I post something they respond with a Nintendo comeback?? I'm not a sheep. and I think Melee is a little better then brawl.:P

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#56 Ninja-Hippo
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Why when I post something they respond with a Nintendo comeback?? I'm not a sheep. and I think Melee is a little better then brawl.:P

Oroin

It was just an example, not a nintendo come back. :| I own a wii and SSBB.

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#57 GIJames248
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Bungie or Blizzard. Not sure which.
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#58 GIJames248
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There are no overrated devs-each one produces games that cater to different tastes, and those who believe a certain developer is overrated is simply one of the individuals not catered to.thepwninator

You just killed my post... reason HAS NO PLACE IN SYSTEM WARS ! ! !

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Nintendo
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I think Bungie is
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Bungie or Blizzard. Not sure which.GIJames248

I'll pick for you. You pick Bungie.

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Guerilla Games takes the cake.
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Rockstar....they make craptastic tasteless games.....theyre way of making a game is....if it has free roam, swearing, guns, and cars...its appalling.
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Bungie made Myth and Marathon, which were both awesome, prior to Halo. :| Their older games aren't reviewed here (at least i cant find them). I did find Myth, though:

"Myth II is about as good as a computer game can possibly be."

9.3, Editor's choice.

"But they only made one good game..." :roll:

Ninja-Hippo

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

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Square Enix, After FF7 everybody treated the series like god..horrible overrated junk IMO..

Rockstar, There ok games...nothing special

Konami, Before anybody says "OMGZ the epicz facepalmz" MGS is a good series, but it dident do anything NEW to the genre at all its got the most complicated story, way to long cutscene, and etc...just my opinions

Epic Games: After Gears they think that anything they make will be gold..not only that but there the biggest a$$holes in the gaming industry, saying all that crap about pc gaming dieing when PC gaming is what made them so rich in the first place..

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Bungie made Myth and Marathon, which were both awesome, prior to Halo. :| Their older games aren't reviewed here (at least i cant find them). I did find Myth, though:

"Myth II is about as good as a computer game can possibly be."

9.3, Editor's choice.

"But they only made one good game..." :roll:

DeathScape666

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

So people praise Bungie because of Halo? Good job on handing out an flyer on how people think.

That paragraph is solely on what you think. Many people praise Myth and Marathon. You failed on this one. It would've been better if you never jumped off the bandwagon.

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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Bungie made Myth and Marathon, which were both awesome, prior to Halo. :| Their older games aren't reviewed here (at least i cant find them). I did find Myth, though:

"Myth II is about as good as a computer game can possibly be."

9.3, Editor's choice.

"But they only made one good game..." :roll:

sargentbotk

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

So people praise Bungie because of Halo? Good job on handing out an flyer on how people think.

That paragraph is solely on what you think. Many people praise Myth and Marathon. You failed on this one. It would've been better if you never jumped off the bandwagon.

Yes, people praise Bungie because of Halo. That's what I'm saying. I know there are a lot of people the praise Bungie because of their older work, but more people are aware of Bungie's more recent efforts; the Halo series. That's what they are recognized as.

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#69 kingyotoX
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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

We're getting tired of you.

Ninja-Hippo

Fanboys and haters are getting tired of me pointing out the poor logic behind their ramblings? I'm glad.

Yep everyone but you is an idiot, you are a genius.:roll: WHo are you to call someone a fanboy?

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Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

DeathScape666

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

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i pick bungie. i mean they made 1 good series, halo. halo3 wasnt even that great and for some reason, ppl praise them as great developers and put them in the same category as blizzard, konami, capcom. I mean come on, they need more than halo to be considered to be an elite devs.

bungie is like the dude that sang "MAMBO NUMBER 5" They made 1 great song and ppl go crazy as the next great thing.

whos ur pick?

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I laughed when you mentioned konami and capcom being in the same league as blizzard. And bungie has made more good games than just halo, its just that you don't know what they are because you either are a new gamer, or too young to be there when they came out.

Both capcom and konami have made tonss of stinkers. Just mentioning them in the same light as blizzard shows how overrated they are.
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Insomniac is easily the most overrated dev out there. They are not tier 1 IMO.

and Bungie made Marathon series and Myth series both AAA in there day.

and you not liking halo doesn't mean it wasn't a big franchise

All 3 were AAA. 1 of them won GOTY at AIAS, the other won console GOTY at AIAS, the other just got AAA scores and set records(that were eventually broken)....

Bungie is an awesome dev and easily one of the best.

Valve
Blizzard
Nintendo
deserve more praise


But Bungie is right up there with a Ubisoft Montreal, Irrational, etc

Insomniac is probably the most overrated

Number 2 and 3 are Rockstar and Epic. WHile GTA is an awesome franchise. Everything else rockstar makes is garbage(even Bully)

and Epic makes great games in Gears of War and the other Unreal games besides UT 3....but they are kind of a 1 trick pony.

usually great MP gameplay
Great gunplay
Great visuals

But never really any great narrative or anything that is ground breaking....

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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

Stevo_the_gamer

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

Sorry, not allowed to have an opinion. :|

So what the **** is the purpose of the word "overrated?" Take my stupidity elsewhere? Maybe you should take your advice and realize that this thread is based on opinion. How else can the word "overrated" be implied? It's how you take it. I don't give a **** what GameSpot says. :|

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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

Stevo_the_gamer

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

Yes how ignorant are we to not worship halo we must be idiots becuase your opinion has to be correct. We are mere weakinglings not worthy of your words. HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD. Now will you spare me great master.

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Personally, I think it's valve....yes, Halflife is an awesome game and its praise is highly justified but I don't think they're praise worthy with only halflife under their belt...

Valve needs to show us that they can bring the same amount of success they've had with half-life with a new game, otherwise, until further notice, they're just a one trick pony. >.>

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lol at people saying SE. I don't see how bungie is overrated either. Just don't compare their games to PC games and your good.
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[QUOTE="virtuas"]


i pick bungie. i mean they made 1 good series, halo. halo3 wasnt even that great and for some reason, ppl praise them as great developers and put them in the same category as blizzard, konami, capcom. I mean come on, they need more than halo to be considered to be an elite devs.

bungie is like the dude that sang "MAMBO NUMBER 5" They made 1 great song and ppl go crazy as the next great thing.

whos ur pick?

diped

I laughed when you mentioned konami and capcom being in the same league as blizzard. And bungie has made more good games than just halo, its just that you don't know what they are because you either are a new gamer, or too young to be there when they came out.

Both capcom and konami have made tonss of stinkers. Just mentioning them in the same light as blizzard shows how overrated they are.

Capcom's Resident Evil 4 is higher than any Blizzard game on GameRankings. Konami's Metal Gear Solid is higher than any Blizzard game on GameRankings, I THINK.

They also have a hell of a lot of other good games.

I don't find that laughable. I actually like Konami and Capcom better than Blizzard. Go ahead, laugh at me for my opinion. I don't give a ****.

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[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Bungie made Myth and Marathon, which were both awesome, prior to Halo. :| Their older games aren't reviewed here (at least i cant find them). I did find Myth, though:

"Myth II is about as good as a computer game can possibly be."

9.3, Editor's choice.

"But they only made one good game..." :roll:

DeathScape666

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

So people praise Bungie because of Halo? Good job on handing out an flyer on how people think.

That paragraph is solely on what you think. Many people praise Myth and Marathon. You failed on this one. It would've been better if you never jumped off the bandwagon.

Yes, people praise Bungie because of Halo. That's what I'm saying. I know there are a lot of people the praise Bungie because of their older work, but more people are aware of Bungie's more recent efforts; the Halo series. That's what they are recognized as.

What you're saying cannot be given credit because there is no definite answer really. All you're saying are just your assumptions. Most likely it is, again, you who recently noticed Bungie because of the Halo series. But my statement cannot be given credit because, again, it's just a hunch.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

kingyotoX

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

Yes how ignorant are we to not worship halo we must be idiots becuase your opinion has to be correct. We are mere weakinglings not worthy of your words. HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD. Now will you spare me great master.

Yup, GameSpot is law. If you disagree, then you're "stupid." :D

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I hate overrated threads....it is honestly good dev bashing

Square gets blasted for Final Fantasy....why? only XI and XII were bad....the spinoffs and sequels are well terrible

GTA getting the hate it is getting...the game is awesome

Valve- r u serious? Half Life, Half Life 2, Team Fortress 2, Portal, I mean Valve is one of the best in the inudstry.

Bungie- don't even need to defend this one they just get hate

Blizzard- WHY? 3 franchises that generate as much buzz as Zelda, Halo, GTA, etc Name 1 company besides Nintendo with 3 franchises that generate BIG SYSTEM SELLER buzz.

don't get me wrong i have named Epic, Rockstar, and Insomniac as overrated.

But I am also quick to point Rockstar has made nothing but greatness with GTA 3, GTA 4, GTA VC, and GTA SA

Epic did awesome with Unreal 2k4, Gears of War, Unreal 1

and Insomniac while IMO not exactly AAA- I did enjoy all the ratchet games(even though they feel like giant rehashes now), and Resistance is a solid game because of its MP.

None of these devs make true garbage really


But I will say that IMO(strictly MY OPINION), the rest of Rockstars work isn't on par with the work they do in GTA...in fact there other games are damn near mediocre in my opinion.
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Bungie made Myth and Marathon, which were both awesome, prior to Halo. :| Their older games aren't reviewed here (at least i cant find them). I did find Myth, though:

"Myth II is about as good as a computer game can possibly be."

9.3, Editor's choice.

"But they only made one good game..." :roll:

sargentbotk

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

So people praise Bungie because of Halo? Good job on handing out an flyer on how people think.

That paragraph is solely on what you think. Many people praise Myth and Marathon. You failed on this one. It would've been better if you never jumped off the bandwagon.

Yes, people praise Bungie because of Halo. That's what I'm saying. I know there are a lot of people the praise Bungie because of their older work, but more people are aware of Bungie's more recent efforts; the Halo series. That's what they are recognized as.

What you're saying cannot be given credit because there is no definite answer really. All you're saying are just your assumptions. Most likely it is, again, you who recently noticed Bungie because of the Halo series. But my statement cannot be given credit because, again, it's just a hunch.

I'm talking about the people I've talked to. Maybe YOU have talked to people that praise Bungie because of games OTHER THAN HALO, but in my experience, it's only ever because of Halo.

And, well, every perspective/opinion on anything ever is based on the individual's own experience. That's why I've said what I've said. I've said that people seem to only notice Bungie because of Halo because, in my own personal experience, that is true.

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#82 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

kingyotoX

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

Yes how ignorant are we to not worship halo we must be idiots becuase your opinion has to be correct. We are mere weakinglings not worthy of your words. HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD. Now will you spare me great master.

oh get over it...what did he say was wrong

If you don't like Halo that is one thing...but does that honestly make them overrated because you don't like one game they made

and weren't there to enjoy there other franchises.

That is like somebody calling Niintendo overrated because Twilight PRincess wasn't all that.

and not counting OOT, MM, WW

or Mario Galaxy, Mario 64, Super Mario World, or Pikmin, etc
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Don't forget Bungie also made the awesome game called Oni.
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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

jg4xchamp

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

Yes how ignorant are we to not worship halo we must be idiots becuase your opinion has to be correct. We are mere weakinglings not worthy of your words. HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD. Now will you spare me great master.

oh get over it...what did he say was wrong

If you don't like Halo that is one thing...but does that honestly make them overrated because you don't like one game they made

and weren't there to enjoy there other franchises.

That is like somebody calling Niintendo overrated because Twilight PRincess wasn't all that.

and not counting OOT, MM, WW

or Mario Galaxy, Mario 64, Super Mario World, or Pikmin, etc

No, it's nothing like that.

So... I'm just wondering... Are we allowed an opinion here, or are elitists like you just going to shoot it down?

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#85 jg4xchamp
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and if we really want to talk 1 trick ponys here

Retro only made Metroid Prime Trilogy and nothing else.

Infinity Ward has only been Call of Duty....which hasn't evolved at all as a franchise other than a change of scenary...COD 1 is still the best in campaign and MP.

Team Ninja- is only GREAT with Ninja Gaiden, and DOA isn't exactly premiere fighting games.

The Tekken guys are only good at Tekken and quite frankly the game isn't even close to being as deep as Virtua FIghter.

Polyphony Digital only gets praise for Gran Turismo.

Bethesda before Fallout 3 is only responsible for Elder Scrolls. which is a series that has declined overtime from Daggerfall>Marrowind>>>>>>>>Oblivion(BORING)
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#86 Iceman2911
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Square Enix because they are starting to get cocky, and Insomiac shouldn't be even mentioned here they produce good games every year.

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#87 jg4xchamp
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who said you can't have an opinion.

have an opinion that says I don't like Bungie because halo wasn't interesting.

Not "Bungie sucks all the ever did was Halo"

because that is a load of crap....

IF you haven't played Marathon or Myth fine....we can all agree that there is nothing wrong with a What have you done for me lately approach

but my analogy stands and is valid. To judge 1 company off 1 franchise or just 1 game is judging Nintendo by just Zelda or just Twilight Princess.
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Square Enix because they are starting to get cocky, and Insomiac shouldn't be even mentioned here they produce good games every year.

Iceman2911

Cows seem to put Insomiac on a high pedestool here.

Insomiac makes some pretty damn good games that help keep a system stay alive, but don't crown it as king. They make solid AA games, but they simply can't compete with Nintendo, Valve, Blizzard, Square Enix, Capcom, Konami, and the like.

Insomiac is a good developer... People just make them out to be better than they actually are. I think it is due to the lack of good PS3 exclusives.

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#89 jg4xchamp
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Square Enix because they are starting to get cocky, and Insomiac shouldn't be even mentioned here they produce good games every year.

Iceman2911
so does everybody other dev mentioned. THem being overrated is based off the hype they get and the praise they get.

Neither of there 2 franchises is exactly dominant in its genre

neither of there games is exactly innovating or doing something new

Neither of there games is exactly a "BIG" franchise

Ratchet is a good franchise....but not exactly one of gamings premiere franchises
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Bungie made Myth and Marathon, which were both awesome, prior to Halo. :| Their older games aren't reviewed here (at least i cant find them). I did find Myth, though:

"Myth II is about as good as a computer game can possibly be."

9.3, Editor's choice.

"But they only made one good game..." :roll:

sargentbotk

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

So people praise Bungie because of Halo? Good job on handing out an flyer on how people think.

That paragraph is solely on what you think. Many people praise Myth and Marathon. You failed on this one. It would've been better if you never jumped off the bandwagon.

it is true, i mean most of my friends think bungie is the greatest devs on earth because they love halo

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who said you can't have an opinion.

have an opinion that says I don't like Bungie because halo wasn't interesting.

Not "Bungie sucks all the ever did was Halo"

because that is a load of crap....

IF you haven't played Marathon or Myth fine....we can all agree that there is nothing wrong with a What have you done for me lately approach

but my analogy stands and is valid. To judge 1 company off 1 franchise or just 1 game is judging Nintendo by just Zelda or just Twilight Princess.jg4xchamp

Except for the fact that Bungie gets most of its praise off of Halo, and would never be placed on such a high pedastool or be recognized as one of the greatest developers of all time if it wasn't for Halo. If they didn't make Halo, you wouldn't hear much about them. Their recognition would be low. Bungie gets most of its praise from Halo. Halo is what has made Bungie overrated. Halo seems to be the only talked about Bungie series anymore. Halo basically represents Bungie as a whole.

Nintendo, on the other hand, is not only recognized by Twilight Princess. It doesn't get its praise off only Zelda, but rather a huge amount of franchises.

Also, I never said Bungie "only made Halo games." I was perfectly aware of Oni, Marathon, and Myth several months before the creation of this thread.

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[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Bungie made Myth and Marathon, which were both awesome, prior to Halo. :| Their older games aren't reviewed here (at least i cant find them). I did find Myth, though:

"Myth II is about as good as a computer game can possibly be."

9.3, Editor's choice.

"But they only made one good game..." :roll:

virtuas

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

So people praise Bungie because of Halo? Good job on handing out an flyer on how people think.

That paragraph is solely on what you think. Many people praise Myth and Marathon. You failed on this one. It would've been better if you never jumped off the bandwagon.

it is true, i mean most of my friends think bungie is the greatest devs on earth because they love halo

Ask them what Oni, Marathon, and Myst are. They'll have no idea.

Like I said before, Bungie gets almost all its praise from Halo.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

kingyotoX

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

Yes how ignorant are we to not worship halo we must be idiots becuase your opinion has to be correct. We are mere weakinglings not worthy of your words. HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD. Now will you spare me great master.

Yeah, you are ignorant, you attack his established viewpoint without actually substantiating your own. Hell, you cant even understand what he's saying due to your blind hate. He's not telling you to worship Halo, hes not telling you to enjoy Halo, he's not calling you an idiot because you don't like Halo, he's telling you to recognize that Halo is a quality series, along with most of the other series that Bungie has made. If you can't come to terms with that then you probably are a fanboy.

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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

bobderwood97_1

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

Yes how ignorant are we to not worship halo we must be idiots becuase your opinion has to be correct. We are mere weakinglings not worthy of your words. HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD. Now will you spare me great master.

Yeah, you are ignorant, you attack his established viewpoint without actually substantiating your own. Hell, you cant even understand what he's saying due to your blind hate. He's not telling you to worship Halo, hes not telling you to enjoy Halo, he's not calling you an idiot because you don't like Halo, he's telling you to recognize that Halo is a quality series, along with most of the other series that Bungie has made. If you can't come to terms with that then you probably are a fanboy.

How can we recognize other developers as overrated here when, according to that one dude's logic, opinions aren't taken into account?

And he tells me to take my stupidity elsewhere. :lol:

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Sorry, not allowed to have an opinion. :|

So what the **** is the purpose of the word "overrated?" Take my stupidity elsewhere? Maybe you should take your advice and realize that this thread is based on opinion. How else can the word "overrated" be implied? It's how you take it. I don't give a **** what GameSpot says. :|

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Overrated is a term which, really, shouldn't be used - in fact, the term itself should be barred from SystemWars considering how much it gets thrown about. A lot of users here are saying Bungie are blindly saying it - they're not basing it off of anything besides the obvious, "Halo is teh overrated therefore Bungie is teh overrateddd". That's just blind hate, I wouldn't even be surprised if the majority of the people who say Bungie never played a Bungie game in their life.

You're trying to prove Bungie Studios is overrated when the VAST majority of professional reviewers clearly dissagree. The general concesus is that Bungie made an amazing franchise with Halo. You're entitled to your opinion to hate it, but that doesn't mean Bungie is overrated.

I can go off and say Nintendo's Development teams are overrated and that Super Mario Galaxy gets undeserved praise. Am I entitled to my opinion? Yes. Is my statement wrong? Oh god yes it is. Your views are benighted thus what you say shouldn't be considered - I do not know why I'm even wasting my time with you.

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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Myth, Marathon, Oni, and of course, Halo.

Bungie is overrated. No, I haven't played Myth, Marathon, or Oni, but that's not where Bungie gets almost all of its credit. If Halo wasn't made, then Bungie would get very little praise. Halo and Bungie go hand in hand. Bungie is overrated because of their Halo series. Bungie gets their high amount of praise because of Halo. People do not praise Bungie for any other reason. Bungie's praise comes solely from Halo.

I don't know how good Myth, Marathon, and Oni. Neither do most people. Bungie is held to such a high regard because of Halo.

bobderwood97_1

If you haven't played the best of what Bungie offers, why are you judging them based off one franchise which is, critically, one of the most highly acclaimed franchises of all time? I don't get it - you can hate on Halo all you want, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not an amazing game. That's just foolish to blindly call a company overrated because you don't like the games it makes nor know nothing about them.

Look on gamerankings or Metacritic and tell me the scores for every Halo game. Gamespot made a topspot 10 greatest shooters and guess what, Halo is on it. Just accept that Halo is an amazing franchise, take your stupidity elsewhere.

Yes how ignorant are we to not worship halo we must be idiots becuase your opinion has to be correct. We are mere weakinglings not worthy of your words. HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD HALO IS GOD. Now will you spare me great master.

Yeah, you are ignorant, you attack his established viewpoint without actually substantiating your own. Hell, you cant even understand what he's saying due to your blind hate. He's not telling you to worship Halo, hes not telling you to enjoy Halo, he's not calling you an idiot because you don't like Halo, he's telling you to recognize that Halo is a quality series, along with most of the other series that Bungie has made. If you can't come to terms with that then you probably are a fanboy.

I played Halo many many times all three and I simply don't like it. I shouldn't be bashed for my opinion.

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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

Square Enix because they are starting to get cocky, and Insomiac shouldn't be even mentioned here they produce good games every year.

DeathScape666

Cows seem to put Insomiac on a high pedestool here.

Insomiac makes some pretty damn good games that help keep a system stay alive, but don't crown it as king. They make solid AA games, but they simply can't compete with Nintendo, Valve, Blizzard, Square Enix, Capcom, Konami, and the like.

Insomiac is a good developer... People just make them out to be better than they actually are. I think it is due to the lack of good PS3 exclusives.

first I am not a cow second Insomiac is overated not that many people make a big deal out of insomiac.

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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Sorry, not allowed to have an opinion. :|

So what the **** is the purpose of the word "overrated?" Take my stupidity elsewhere? Maybe you should take your advice and realize that this thread is based on opinion. How else can the word "overrated" be implied? It's how you take it. I don't give a **** what GameSpot says. :|

Stevo_the_gamer
Overrated is a term which, really, shouldn't be used - in fact, the term itself should be barred from SystemWars considering how much it gets thrown about. A lot of users here are saying Bungie are blindly saying it - they're not basing it off of anything besides the obvious, "Halo is teh overrated therefore Bungie is teh overrateddd". That's just blind hate, I wouldn't even be surprised if the majority of the people who say Bungie never played a Bungie game in their life.

You're trying to prove Bungie Studios is overrated when the VAST majority of professional reviewers clearly dissagree. The general concesus is that Bungie made an amazing franchise with Halo. You're entitled to your opinion to hate it, but that doesn't mean Bungie is overrated.

I can go off and say Nintendo's Development teams are overrated and that Super Mario Galaxy gets undeserved praise. Am I entitled to my opinion? Yes. Is my statement wrong? Oh god yes it is. Your views are benighted thus what you say shouldn't be considered - I do not know why I'm even wasting my time with you.

So going by your logic, we shouldn't use the term "overrated."

Great! So what was your purpose in coming to this thread if you don't believe in the word "overrated?"

So nothing can be "overrated?" I have to recognize it as something that's just as good as everyone says it is, even if I don't believe that way? Then the word overrated can never be applied.

I used the word "overrated" as in simply stating my opinion on company and why I don't think they deserve all the praise they get. You can't tell me to think differently. That's the way I use the word overrated.

According to you, there's no use for the term overrated, yet you still came to this thread. Nice.

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I played Halo many many times all three and I simply don't like it. I shouldn't be bashed for my opinion.

kingyotoX

If you didn't like it - why would you play all three and play it many times? Do you really expect any of us to believe you?

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]who said you can't have an opinion.

have an opinion that says I don't like Bungie because halo wasn't interesting.

Not "Bungie sucks all the ever did was Halo"

because that is a load of crap....

IF you haven't played Marathon or Myth fine....we can all agree that there is nothing wrong with a What have you done for me lately approach

but my analogy stands and is valid. To judge 1 company off 1 franchise or just 1 game is judging Nintendo by just Zelda or just Twilight Princess.DeathScape666

Except for the fact that Bungie gets most of its praise off of Halo, and would never be placed on such a high pedastool or be recognized as one of the greatest developers of all time if it wasn't for Halo. If they didn't make Halo, you wouldn't hear much about them. Their recognition would be low. Bungie gets most of its praise from Halo. Halo is what has made Bungie overrated. Halo seems to be the only talked about Bungie series anymore. Halo basically represents Bungie as a whole.

Nintendo, on the other hand, is not only recognized by Twilight Princess. It doesn't get its praise off only Zelda, but rather a huge amount of franchises.

Also, I never said Bungie "only made Halo games." I was perfectly aware of Oni, Marathon, and Myth several months before the creation of this thread.

Praise is one thing, but that is only because Halo was a BIG franchise.

where as Marathon, Myth were AAA games that never reached the huge audience Halo did.

Bungie has been praised for previous work

but nobody praises Infinity Ward for anything but COD 4 lately(even though COD 1 was better)

and Nintendo the inhouse dev doesn't deserve praise for Metroid....it has always been another studio...

Nintendo inhouse or whatever there name is usually the Mario and Zelda team.

So basically taht 1 dev has lived off 2 franchises and the company has lived off the great work of

Retro
Intelligent Systems
Rare
and other devs that yes Nintendo purchased and owns.

But as a whole Nintendo has shown they haven't done anything amazing outside of there oldest franchises.

COmpare old Nintendo franchises to new ones.

Smash Bros. is the only big AAA one

Pikmin is critically acclaimed but isn't a big seller

ANimal Crossing is solid AA...with no improvements

Giest SUCKED

and the recent stuff is casualized gaming.

and your assumption that Bungie is only praised for Halo is wrong. AN isolated situation(such as just your friends) does not take into account the millions of bungie fans, and older games that played marathon and myth and have followed bungie long before Halo COmbat Evolved and remember when Halo was suppose to be an RTS.