Your Thoughts on Mortal Kombat 9

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

Yes because 50 hit combos only come from button mashing and are ALWAYS easy to preform. I'm goign to be serious with you. There is NO fighter that, at serious play, you can win by mashing buttons. NONE. Don't act like MK9 is so unique. It's pretty bare bones, tbh. And I don't see why always doing "wild" combos is bad, especially when you have to collectively think about what you are doing to actually do them. Mashing doesn't work that way bro.

Calling MK the most unique fighter is just lol worthy though.

OneSanitarium

It has NOTHING on the depth of Guilty Gear, and the character variance in MK is pathetic at best. So many of these "not unique" anime fighters have more varience between just a few characters than MK has with its entire roster. And if you are winning/losing in a game due to mashing, you must be pretty bad at fighting games.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Like what? I'm having a lack of fighting games to try for my fix.. And i don't have a PS3.

percech

Arcana Heart 3. And i'm playing some Guilty Gear and stuff.

I'm also waiting for Third Strike Online, KoFXIII, and Skull Girls.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="percech"] There is no other fighter that's more unique. You can easily win matches in MvC3 by just button mashing. Calling any anime style fighter unique is even funnier though.percech

It has NOTHING on the depth of Guilty Gear, and the character variance in MK is pathetic at best. So many of these "not unique" anime fighters have more varience between just a few characters than MK has with its entire roster. And if you are winning/losing in a game due to mashing, you must be pretty bad at fighting games.

Have you played Guilty Gear? Just throwing this question out there.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

It has NOTHING on the depth of Guilty Gear, and the character variance in MK is pathetic at best. So many of these "not unique" anime fighters have more varience between just a few characters than MK has with its entire roster. And if you are winning/losing in a game due to mashing, you must be pretty bad at fighting games.

Yangire

Have you played Guilty Gear? Just throwing this question out there.

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Like you would know about the characters? Anime fighters have so many Ryu copies(including moves and the looks) it's just hilarious. Anime is the least unique style for ANYTHING. MK has a lot more variety in their characters. Each have their own unique fighting style that you will have to get used to before being good with any of them. percech

Have you played Guilty Gear? Just throwing this question out there.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="percech"] There is no other fighter that's more unique. You can easily win matches in MvC3 by just button mashing. Calling any anime style fighter unique is even funnier though.percech

It has NOTHING on the depth of Guilty Gear, and the character variance in MK is pathetic at best. So many of these "not unique" anime fighters have more varience between just a few characters than MK has with its entire roster. And if you are winning/losing in a game due to mashing, you must be pretty bad at fighting games.

MK9 has so many people with teleports, moves the freeze them, and just very boring character designs. And I've not played a character that looked like Ryu other a very small handful.

Want Characters that don't play like them. Try.....most of the Guilty Gear Cast, Most of the Blazblue Cast, most of the Arcana Heart cast, most of the KoF Cast, most of the Melty Blood cast, most of the HnK cast.....etc

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Like you would know about the characters? Anime fighters have so many Ryu copies(including moves and the looks) it's just hilarious. Anime is the least unique style for ANYTHING. MK has a lot more variety in their characters. Each have their own unique fighting style that you will have to get used to before being good with any of them. percech

Have you played Guilty Gear? Just throwing this question out there.

Have you ever played Metly Blood or Arcana Heart? What about Blazblue? I want to know where your getting these assumptions from because none of these games are filled with shoto characters.

Thanks for reminding me onesan, I'll add HnK to the mix.

why can't we all just get along?lbjkurono23

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[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

KoFXIII is pretty deep and stuff, Skull Girls is showing a lot of promise, and Arcana Heart 3 is just fantastic. What are you trying to say?

OneSanitarium

Nevermind. I don't want to start a stupid opinion war. Differing opinions is all.

I've just run into a lot of snobby attitudes towards this newest MK simply because it bares the name. I also always looked the series as sub-par when compared to other fighters, but I gave this one a chance and its great. I just got the impression that were of the group that didnt even give the game a try.

I don't really like the way the game looks, but I'd give the game a more thorough try, I just don't want to pay for something that I doubt I'll like. I'm broke.

I understand that. 60 bucks is a bit much for something you may not even enjoy, and if you played the demo then you have a good idea of what the game is like.

I will say this though. The final game plays a bit better than the demo. The characters are balanced out, the bugs and broken aspects (like the game assuming you're still in a combo when you aren't) are gone and overall it just plays faster. Plus for the first time in a 2d MK the characters have a lot of variation, so even if you didn't find a styIe you liked in the demo, you could probably find a few characters to enjoy in the final roster.

If you have a friend that gets the game it certainly wouldnt hurt to give it another go.

As for how the game looks, that cant be changed. I love the old school MK look, but that's just me.

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Like you would know about the characters? Anime fighters have so many Ryu copies(including moves and the looks) it's just hilarious. Anime is the least unique style for ANYTHING. MK has a lot more variety in their characters. Each have their own unique fighting style that you will have to get used to before being good with any of them. percech

Have you played Guilty Gear? Just throwing this question out there.

Like you would know about the characters? Anime fighters have so many Ryu copies(including moves and the looks) it's just hilarious. Anime is the least unique style for ANYTHING. MK has a lot more variety in their characters. Each have their own unique fighting style that you will have to get used to before being good with any of them. percech

Anything that's popular is going to get a rip-off. Considering that fighting games started in Japan, and 98% of all fighting games came from Japan, it's pretty damn self-explanatory that there's going to be rip-offs of Ryu's character from SF, the franchise that put the basis of all fighting games, ever made.

And i haven't seen a straight up Ryu rip off since the early 90's fighting games, which were basically Street Fighter rip-offs. Street Fighter was to the fighting genre, what Doom was for the FPS genre. I think you have heard of the term 'Doom Clone'.

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]why can't we all just get along?percech

Hypocrite. You looked down on the game I liked first.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

It has NOTHING on the depth of Guilty Gear, and the character variance in MK is pathetic at best. So many of these "not unique" anime fighters have more varience between just a few characters than MK has with its entire roster. And if you are winning/losing in a game due to mashing, you must be pretty bad at fighting games.

OneSanitarium

MK9 has so many people with teleports, moves the freeze them, and just very boring character designs. And I've not played a character that looked like Ryu other a very small handful.

Want Characters that don't play like them. Try.....most of the Guilty Gear Cast, Most of the Blazblue Cast, most of the Arcana Heart cast, most of the KoF Cast, most of the Melty Blood cast, most of the HnK cast.....etc

lol I'm guilty of being a SF fan that has always looked down on MK, I'm sorry Perech! :cry:

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Yangire"]

Have you played Guilty Gear? Just throwing this question out there.

Arach666

Most play like Ryu. It's hilarious. percech

Factually, they don't. The characters in the said fighting games have so much diversity, it's practically mind boggling.

Stop posting.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Like you would know about the characters? Anime fighters have so many Ryu copies(including moves and the looks) it's just hilarious. Anime is the least unique style for ANYTHING. MK has a lot more variety in their characters. Each have their own unique fighting style that you will have to get used to before being good with any of them. percech

MK9 has so many people with teleports, moves the freeze them, and just very boring character designs. And I've not played a character that looked like Ryu other a very small handful.

Want Characters that don't play like them. Try.....most of the Guilty Gear Cast, Most of the Blazblue Cast, most of the Arcana Heart cast, most of the KoF Cast, most of the Melty Blood cast, most of the HnK cast.....etc

Okay, single out one game and say a whole lotta BS. Most KoF characters play nothing like SF, and the game has a very different system as well.

I actually don't see the problem with different SFs. Each one from Vanilla, SSF4 and AE are ALL different games and everything.

Besides, you obviously have no clue as to what you are talking about.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="percech"] What the hell is a Guilty Gear? Just throwing this question out there.percech

Its good. Not really my cup of tea, but definitely well made games.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

MK9 has so many people with teleports, moves the freeze them, and just very boring character designs. And I've not played a character that looked like Ryu other a very small handful.

Want Characters that don't play like them. Try.....most of the Guilty Gear Cast, Most of the Blazblue Cast, most of the Arcana Heart cast, most of the KoF Cast, most of the Melty Blood cast, most of the HnK cast.....etc

OneSanitarium

Okay, single out one game and say a whole lotta BS. Most KoF characters play nothing like SF, and the game has a very different system as well.

I actually don't see the problem with different SFs. Each one from Vanilla, SSF4 and AE are ALL different games and everything.

Besides, you obviously have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Streetfighter IV just felt like SF2 with fancy graphics. Mortal Kombat blows it out of the water in almost every area for me. It's brilliant. And hey, you don't have to spend money just for alternative costumes. Because that would be insanely poor.

I love it. It's what a fighting game should be. Bloody, brutal, and the story mode is much better than anything SF has mustered lately. If only King of Fighters could get its act together and then capcom would have to stop resting on its laurels and update the game properly.

I'm kind of frustrated I have no money in order to pick it up with.foxhound_fox

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[QUOTE="percech"] Most play like Ryu. It's hilarious. It's funny how you mentioned KoF since half the cast is based on Street Fighters. MK9 actually has the best looking character designs. Also, some characters having similar attack moves makes for a very balanced fighter. Something that SF fails at since Capcom always released a new and different version of the same thing with tuned up balance. percech

Okay, single out one game and say a whole lotta BS. Most KoF characters play nothing like SF, and the game has a very different system as well.

I actually don't see the problem with different SFs. Each one from Vanilla, SSF4 and AE are ALL different games and everything.

Besides, you obviously have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Again, have you played Metly Blood, HnK, Arcana Heart, or Blazblue? You haven't played Guilty Gear so you must be getting this from somewhere.. Right?

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Most play like Ryu. It's hilarious. It's funny how you mentioned KoF since half the cast is based on Street Fighters. MK9 actually has the best looking character designs. Also, some characters having similar attack moves makes for a very balanced fighter. Something that SF fails at since Capcom always released a new and different version of the same thing with tuned up balance. percech

Okay, single out one game and say a whole lotta BS. Most KoF characters play nothing like SF, and the game has a very different system as well.

I actually don't see the problem with different SFs. Each one from Vanilla, SSF4 and AE are ALL different games and everything.

Besides, you obviously have no clue as to what you are talking about.

First of all, Arcana Heart 3 is one of if not the most balanced fighter to come out in YEARS. More than likely more balanced than MK9. You saying they are boring or are copies shows you've never actually touched one. And saying they are the reason fighters are dying when they are the reason the genre still lives is absurd.

And again, calling MK9 unique is laughable at best, at least when compared to ALL THESE ANIMU FIGHTERS.

One can say I know as much about Japanese fighters as you do about MK. Japanese fighters are the least balanced fighters out there. They are also the most boring and are the reason why fighters are dying down. Japanese fighters are carbon copies of each other and people are getting bored. It's about time a unique game like MK came around and freshened things up a bit. Also, sandbox3d...it's cool brah.

percech

So Tekken, Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter, being japanese fighters, fit in your biased perspective?

You know i'm not gonna leave you alone just because you'll ignore me, son.

It's pretty awesome. It's not a deep as say, Guilty Gear mechanically (and to be fair, few fighters are), but it's deep enough to be competitive, and an absolute blast to play. Plus it has more kontent than just about any other fighter I've ever seen.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

Okay, single out one game and say a whole lotta BS. Most KoF characters play nothing like SF, and the game has a very different system as well.

I actually don't see the problem with different SFs. Each one from Vanilla, SSF4 and AE are ALL different games and everything.

Besides, you obviously have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Yangire

Again, have you played Metly Blood, HnK, Arcana Heart, or Blazblue? You haven't played Guilty Gear so you must be getting this from somewhere.. Right?

Streetfighter IV just felt like SF2 with fancy graphics.

Chemical_Viking

SFIV was just as fresh for that series as MK9 is for this series. Seriously. If SF4 really felt like SF2 then I wouldnt have such a difficult time deciding which one to play some days.

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="percech"] One can say I know as much as you do about MK. Japanese fighters are the least balanced fighters out there. They are also the most boring and are the reason why fighters are dying down. Japanese fighters are carbon copies of each other and people are getting bored. It's about time a unique game like MK came around and freshened things up a bit. Also, sandbox3d...it's cool brah.percech

Again, have you played Metly Blood, HnK, Arcana Heart, or Blazblue? You haven't played Guilty Gear so you must be getting this from somewhere.. Right?

God job on basing your entire viewpoint on an experience more than 10 years ago.

[QUOTE="percech"]

One can say I know as much about Japanese fighters as you do about MK. Japanese fighters are the least balanced fighters out there. They are also the most boring and are the reason why fighters are dying down. Japanese fighters are carbon copies of each other and people are getting bored. It's about time a unique game like MK came around and freshened things up a bit. Also, sandbox3d...it's cool brah.

Lucianu

So Tekken, Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter, being japanese fighters, fit in your biased perspective?

You know i'm not gonna leave you alone just because you'll ignore me, son.

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="percech"] One can say I know as much as you do about MK. Japanese fighters are the least balanced fighters out there. They are also the most boring and are the reason why fighters are dying down. Japanese fighters are carbon copies of each other and people are getting bored. It's about time a unique game like MK came around and freshened things up a bit. Also, sandbox3d...it's cool brah.percech

Again, have you played Metly Blood, HnK, Arcana Heart, or Blazblue? You haven't played Guilty Gear so you must be getting this from somewhere.. Right?

So your pretty much going off of nothing? At least play the listed games before you start generalizing, because no one will take you seriously.

Easily the best fighter of this generation. (Hell, its the best fighter I've ever played really.) Even surpasses Soul Calibur 4. Best story mode I've played in a fighter. A new take on MK1-3 and has a great variety since you must play each character. Would've loved some new ones/cameos though. Some challenges you can't even go all-out on and must time attacks/formulate a strategy. Love learning each character's special moves and fatalities. Many modes to play and lots of secrets. Challenge Tower is amazing and adds more content thats actually fun. Love all the unlockables the Krypt has. Controls, even a bit wonky/unresponsive with a controller, are almost perfect. Would've loved to see a run button.

Gamespot should've gave this an 9.5. Its that damn good. I'm so going on eBay to buy klassic kostumes codes. Netherrealm better not release them as DLC cause these things are f'ing expensive.

Just wish they kept/remastered the Reptile theme from the movie, and Shao Kahn's theme from MK2. Both are such epic themes for fighting its impossible to describe.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Yangire"]

Again, have you played Metly Blood, HnK, Arcana Heart, or Blazblue? You haven't played Guilty Gear so you must be getting this from somewhere.. Right?

OneSanitarium

God job on basing your entire viewpoint on an experience more than 10 years ago.

[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Streetfighter IV just felt like SF2 with fancy graphics.

sandbox3d

SFIV was just as fresh for that series as MK9 is for this series. Seriously. If SF4 really felt like SF2 then I wouldnt have such a difficult time deciding which one to play some days.

[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="percech"] I"ve played, SF, KoF, MvC, and a few other no name fighters back in the 90s in arcades. I know enough to realize that if they look the same...the most likely play the same. percech

God job on basing your entire viewpoint on an experience more than 10 years ago.

Biased as hell, still. Your ignorance is astounding, and your skill in ignoring what every says as awe inspiring.

I've said this before. Fighting Games need nothing more than a Versus mode and a Training mode to be good. I will gladly pay more than 60$ for a game that has depth and I find fun to play. I imported AH3 for almost 80$ and i'm not upset. I imported knowing it would be cheaper if I waited for the localization.

I'm done.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

God job on basing your entire viewpoint on an experience more than 10 years ago.

OneSanitarium

Biased as hell, still. Your ignorance is astounding, and your skill in ignoring what every says as awe inspiring.

I've said this before. Fighting Games need nothing more than a Versus mode and a Training mode to be good. I will gladly pay more than 60$ for a game that has depth and I find fun to play. I imported AH3 for almost 80$ and i'm not upset. I imported knowing it would be cheaper if I waited for the localization.

I'm done.

Easily the best fighter of this generation. (Hell, its the best fighter I've ever played really.) Even surpasses Soul Calibur 4. Best story mode I've played in a fighter. A new take on MK1-3 and has a great variety since you must play each character. Would've loved some new ones/cameos though. Some challenges you can't even go all-out on and must time attacks/formulate a strategy. Love learning each character's special moves and fatalities. Many modes to play and lots of secrets. Challenge Tower is amazing and adds more content thats actually fun. Love all the unlockables the Krypt has. Controls, even a bit wonky/unresponsive with a controller, are almost perfect. Would've loved to see a run button.

Gamespot should've gave this an 9.5. Its that damn good. I'm so going on eBay to buy klassic kostumes codes. Netherrealm better not release them as DLC cause these things are f'ing expensive.

Just wish they kept/remastered the Reptile theme from the movie, and Shao Kahn's theme from MK2. Both are such epic themes for fighting its impossible to describe.

ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

God job on basing your entire viewpoint on an experience more than 10 years ago.

OneSanitarium

Biased as hell, still. Your ignorance is astounding, and your skill in ignoring what every says as awe inspiring.

I've said this before. Fighting Games need nothing more than a Versus mode and a Training mode to be good. I will gladly pay more than 60$ for a game that has depth and I find fun to play. I imported AH3 for almost 80$ and i'm not upset. I imported knowing it would be cheaper if I waited for the localization.

I'm done.

Plus technically, MK9 is just MK3 with fancy graphics.

Phazevariance

You're joking,right?

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

God job on basing your entire viewpoint on an experience more than 10 years ago.

OneSanitarium

Biased as hell, still. Your ignorance is astounding, and your skill in ignoring what every says as awe inspiring.

I've said this before. Fighting Games need nothing more than a Versus mode and a Training mode to be good. I will gladly pay more than 60$ for a game that has depth and I find fun to play. I imported AH3 for almost 80$ and i'm not upset. I imported knowing it would be cheaper if I waited for the localization.

I'm done.

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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Streetfighter IV just felt like SF2 with fancy graphics.

Phazevariance

SFIV was just as fresh for that series as MK9 is for this series. Seriously. If SF4 really felt like SF2 then I wouldnt have such a difficult time deciding which one to play some days.

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Streetfighter IV just felt like SF2 with fancy graphics.

Phazevariance

SFIV was just as fresh for that series as MK9 is for this series. Seriously. If SF4 really felt like SF2 then I wouldnt have such a difficult time deciding which one to play some days.

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

Plus technically, MK9 is just MK3 with fancy graphics.

lbjkurono23

You're joking,right?

I'm pretty sure he was just making fun of the guy that drew that same comparison between SF2 and SF4. Besides character roster and background stages, this game shares no real similarities with any of the MK3 iterations, at least not gameplay wise.

I'm pretty sure he was just making fun of the guy that drew that same comparison between SF2 and SF4. Besides character roster and background stages, this game shares no real similarities with any of the MK3 iterations, at least not gameplay wise.

sandbox3d

Really? I thought MK9 is a game that wanted to go back to its roots, 2D gameplay in a 3D engine, similar to what SF4 achieved.

The newest MK is pretty good, but still not in the league of better fighters. Most of the game's worth comes in the amount of content the game delivers. There's a looooooot of stuff in the krypt for fans to unlock, and the challenge tower provides tons of fun little challenges. The best part of the game is the story mode, they nailed the cheesy b-movie feel (and I mean that in a good way).

As an actual fighter though, I still find it lacking - and I'm not even seriously into the genre. It is a big improvement over past installments, just doesn't have the speed I look for in a fighter.

Slashkice

So wait.. Your idea of depth directly hinges on the pace of the fighter?

I love it, and I really wonder how it will fair in the competitive scene. Though overall, I still prefer MVC 3 as a fighter, though MK is a better game overall. One day, just one day.... someone will have the content and story mode on the level of MK9 with the gameplay on the level of fighters like GG and MVC. That would be the day :)

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I'm pretty sure he was just making fun of the guy that drew that same comparison between SF2 and SF4. Besides character roster and background stages, this game shares no real similarities with any of the MK3 iterations, at least not gameplay wise.

Lucianu

Really? I thought MK9 is a game that wanted to go back to its roots, 2D gameplay in a 3D engine, similar to what SF4 achieved.

And it did just that.

It went back to the old characters, the old stages and even the old story. It went back to 2d and brought back the juggle combos. But even so, it is an entirely new game. It doesn't have the run mechanic from MK3 and is not a simple dial-a-combo system like MK3. It also differs from the early MK games in that every character is absolutely unique, where as in the old games it was only a handful of specials, and MK3s dial combos that differentiated characters. And most importantly it isn't broken like every iteration and version of MK3. :P

I'm with Foxhound. Frustrated that I can't afford it at the moment

Even surpasses Soul Calibur 4. ChubbyGuy40