Zelda OOT 3DS Eurogamer Review: 10/10

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#51 organic_machine
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I disagree about MM, BUT it is a really hard title to review because there is not much wrong with it and me liking OoT over MM is more of an opinion on how things are done that it is a fact on what was better in OoT. MM is so close to a 10 but I dont think I can give it that :P.NaveedLife

I played them both at the same time without any previous Zelda experience. In my opinion, Majora's Mask was much better in terms of story, gameplay, and atmosphere. Plus that whole beginning section with the moon and the town is one of the strangest and most epic gaming intros I've ever played in my life.

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#52 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Nobody can really make a nostalgia argument when DNF just got a 3/10, if games could truly live in a wave of nostalgia then Duke wouldn't be scoring so badly.nintendoboy16
But DNF isn't nintendo so it doesn't count.

Oh so it HAS to be by NINTENDO in order for it to be bashed for nostalgia. That makes no sense.

it was a joke
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And honestly who was really nostalgic about DNF, they haven't built up their nostalgia like nintendo has done for all these years.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] But DNF isn't nintendo so it doesn't count.charlesdarwin55
Oh so it HAS to be by NINTENDO in order for it to be bashed for nostalgia. That makes no sense.

it was a joke

Oh, sorry. Maybe you should add an emoticon at the end to tell it's a joke.
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#55 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] But DNF isn't nintendo so it doesn't count.charlesdarwin55

Neither is Duke Nukem 3D, but that scored well. DNF is just a **** game and nostalgia doesn't mean anything.

Well I was just joking but your argument doesn't make any sense. I doubt anyone claim Duke Nukem 3D got great scores because of nostalgia since it created the duke nostalgia in the first place. Duke Nukem 3D was just a great game.

Of course it does. I will stop you there because the game got re-released on XBLA in 2008:

http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/dukenukem3d/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B4

Similarly to OOT 3DS Eurogamer review, it scored well because it was just good.

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#57 nintendoboy16  Online
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Nostalgia is amazing isnt it?

Zaibach

This excuse for success is so old. Please try again. :P

wow, *looks at sig and avatar* wow:roll:

He's right. If nostalgia was making long running franchises score well, then Sonic and (more recently) The Duke would have scored better.

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#58 timmy00
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Nostalgia is amazing isnt it?

Zaibach

This excuse for success is so old. Please try again. :P

wow, *looks at sig and avatar* wow:roll:

He got a point.

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What?! Not recycled? Not same as 13 years ago?! The 3D in 3DS must do something for this game. :D
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#60 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Nostalgia is amazing isnt it?

Zaibach

This excuse for success is so old. Please try again. :P

wow, *looks at sig and avatar* wow:roll:

We can all do that ya know. Wow you don't have Any Nintendo games in your review list, sig, avatar, you must hate Nintendo right?

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#61 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] This excuse for success is so old. Please try again. :Ptimmy00

wow, *looks at sig and avatar* wow:roll:

He got a point.

Nowhere in my original staement had stated that it was a bad game, why are people soo defensively mad?:|

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#62 GunSmith1_basic
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I'm really torn about this since I own a 3DS and there is no other games out. THe problem is that I do not replay things that often. I only played OoT once and it was one of my favorite games of all time.
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#64 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Neither is Duke Nukem 3D, but that scored well. DNF is just a **** game and nostalgia doesn't mean anything.SaltyMeatballs

Well I was just joking but your argument doesn't make any sense. I doubt anyone claim Duke Nukem 3D got great scores because of nostalgia since it created the duke nostalgia in the first place. Duke Nukem 3D was just a great game.

Of course it does. I will stop you there because the game got re-released on XBLA in 2008:

http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/dukenukem3d/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B4

Similarly to OOT 3DS Eurogamer review, it scored well because it was just good.

So it did get great scores because nostalgia, guess I was wrong.

I recently bought Doom and Heretic and they made me really nostalgic and I had a great time, but seriously objectively compared to todays standards they have no chance. Sure the level design is better than now but everything else is crap compared to today.

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#65 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]wow, *looks at sig and avatar* wow:roll:

Zaibach

He got a point.

Nowhere in my original staement had stated that it was a bad game, why are people soo defensively mad?:|

I'm not defensively mad. Just said he got a point. :P

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It would be hilarious if this thing gets AAAAE in GS. Its wishful thinking but epic indeed. I am excited for this but at the same time disappointed. Like many I also have a 3ds and there are no games what so ever. This sounds great because the launch sucked but in reality they could have done so much more to this game. O well beggars can't be choosers.

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#67 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]wow, *looks at sig and avatar* wow:roll:

He got a point.

Nowhere in my original staement had stated that it was a bad game, why are people soo defensively mad?:|

cause you came in here just to post the typical, "nostalgia" response, saying that the game is not actually as good as its made out to be, when indeed, it is :P.

It isn't. Midi music, crappy graphics, no voiceacting, nomatter if u enjoy it objectively it can't even be considered for a 10. It's too flawed.
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It would be hilarious if this thing gets AAAAE in GS. Its wishful thinking but epic indeed. I am excited for this but at the same time disappointed. Like many I also have a 3ds and there are no games what so ever. This sounds great because the launch sucked but in reality they could have done so much more to this game. O well beggars can't be choosers.

mexicangordo

I do wish they had added in more new content, but I am at least glad that they chose not to mess with what was there. I mean as far as an updated version goes, it is awesome it would seem. But it would have been cool to have some new quest tacked on (maybe a small co-op one) for beating MQ, or getting all the skultulas (since that prize sucks originally lol). But I would rather them leave it out, then mess with the original game I think.

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#69 preitje
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Still I think there is a difference between a port and a sequel.. OOT is a polished version of the original game, while DNF is a totally new game having to prove itselve (and failed in doing that apparantly)
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#70 SuperFlakeman
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lol I just ordered a 3DS bundled with OoT 30 mins ago.

Watched the video, the fps increase makes such a huge difference I can't believe it... is it 60!!!!?

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#71 preitje
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Still I think there is a difference between a port and a sequel.. OOT is a polished version of the original game, while DNF is a totally new game having to prove itselve (and failed in doing that apparantly) preitje
In terms of nostalgia that is.
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#72 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] This excuse for success is so old. Please try again. :PNaveedLife

wow, *looks at sig and avatar* wow:roll:

We can all do that ya know. Wow you don't have Any Nintendo games in your review list, sig, avatar, you must hate Nintendo right?

Oh yeah I loathe Nintendo, just because I havent taken time to write a review of hier games on Gamespot, you totally caught me, where were you when Bin laden was still at large? Lol I kid, but you nintendo guys really need reel it back a notch. This crusader-like fervour is starting to become nauseating.

Oot was a definitive game of its time, Zelda is really popular, its over decade old and can still score a 10, I'm betting Nostalgia played a great role in that.

Feel free to disagree, but dont impugne my honour by spouting that I have hate for Nintendo, that is Luda!

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#73 GunSmith1_basic
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lol I just ordered a 3DS bundled with OoT 30 mins ago.

Watched the video, the fps increase makes such a huge difference I can't believe it... is it 60!!!!?

SuperFlakeman
probably like most 3DS games, the framerate will jump much higher if you turn the 3D off
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#74 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] Same here. SaltyMeatballs
You can have the game now on multiple platforms!

You made a bad joke about that already

 Not a joke when it's the truth, but hey I got tons of gifs..lets do this . :)
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]wow, *looks at sig and avatar* wow:roll:

Zaibach

We can all do that ya know. Wow you don't have Any Nintendo games in your review list, sig, avatar, you must hate Nintendo right?

Oh yeah I loathe Nintendo, just because I havent taken time to write a review of hier games on Gamespot, you totally caught me, where were you when Bin laden was still at large? Lol I kid, but you nintendo guys really need reel it back a notch. This crusader-like fervour is starting to become nauseating.

Oot was a definitive game of its time, Zelda is really popular, its over decade old and can still score a 10, I'm betting Nostalgia played a great role in that.

Feel free to disagree, but dont impugne my honour by spouting that I have hate for Nintendo, that is Luda!

It was sarcasm. I am saying that someone with a zelda avatar/sig isnt necessarily a fanboy, just as someone like you, who has no mention of liking or playing Nintendo games, might also not be a fanboy. I found Twilight princess to be a let down. A great game no doubt and a welcome addition to the series, but just cause I love Zelda does not mean that I think Twilight Princess was perfect. I think Ocarina of Time is a better game on todays standards than Twilight Princess is. Now would I give OoT 3DS a 10? Maybe, I am not sure yet. I think at the very least it deserves a 9.5, but you could argue that the lack of new quests or whatever keeps it from getting a 10 now.

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#77 dzimm
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[QUOTE="Badosh"]^ I lul'd. Anywho, yeah not really surprised, it's more or less the same game, if I'm correct. Why wouldn't it score good?Bread_or_Decide
Shrug....there's nothing else to play on the 3DS. Bread crumbs taste great when there's no meal.

Speakig of bread crumbs, it's time to freshen up your bait, because the stuff you're using has gotten stale. :roll:

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#78 Heil68
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Been there done that.....on a bigger screen, back in 1998 on N64 and in 2003 on GC.

2_Quiet_2_Riot
Apparently that is some sort of bad joke in this thread, although I recall the exact same experience and even as recent as 2009 on my 42" plasma. It was great.
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#79 Funconsole
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What? One of the most revered games of all time is STILL GOOD?!

SHUT

DOWN

EVERYTHING

EDIT: Also I want this game.

enterawesome

Ahaha exactly what I was thinking! Makes me wanna spend the $250 JUST for this game!!

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#80 LOXO7
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I expect a 5/10 at GS. If it comes out again in another 13 years. I would give it a .5/10. But if you are new to the game then refer back to the original titles score.
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Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

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#82 Cheese-Muffins
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I expect a 5/10 at GS. If it comes out again in another 13 years. I would give it a .5/10. But if you are new to the game then refer back to the original titles score.LOXO7

Then you will be sorely disappointed.

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Unless standards really didn't change since N64.

I don't see any reason why this game is stillgetting a 10 with just a minor upgrade.

Nostalgia/10 confirmed.

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I have had my 3DS since the day after it came out, but I haven't bought any games for it yet. Maybe I should get this bad boy.
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

We can all do that ya know. Wow you don't have Any Nintendo games in your review list, sig, avatar, you must hate Nintendo right?

NaveedLife

Oh yeah I loathe Nintendo, just because I havent taken time to write a review of hier games on Gamespot, you totally caught me, where were you when Bin laden was still at large? Lol I kid, but you nintendo guys really need reel it back a notch. This crusader-like fervour is starting to become nauseating.

Oot was a definitive game of its time, Zelda is really popular, its over decade old and can still score a 10, I'm betting Nostalgia played a great role in that.

Feel free to disagree, but dont impugne my honour by spouting that I have hate for Nintendo, that is Luda!

It was sarcasm. I am saying that someone with a zelda avatar/sig isnt necessarily a fanboy, just as someone like you, who has no mention of liking or playing Nintendo games, might also not be a fanboy. I found Twilight princess to be a let down. A great game no doubt and a welcome addition to the series, but just cause I love Zelda does not mean that I think Twilight Princess was perfect. I think Ocarina of Time is a better game on todays standards than Twilight Princess is. Now would I give OoT 3DS a 10? Maybe, I am not sure yet. I think at the very least it deserves a 9.5, but you could argue that the lack of new quests or whatever keeps it from getting a 10 now.

My response to the Link avatr and sig guy wasnt on the presuposition that he was a fanboy, much more due to the fact that our conversation would go no further as it was apparent that he is a fan of the series. And there is nothing I can possibly say that would challenge his beleifs (though that is not what I intended)

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#86 Zaibach
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Unless standards really didn't change since N64.

I don't see any reason why this game is stillgetting a 10 with just a minor upgrade.

Nostalgia/10 confirmed.

nitekids2004

dude, dont say that???!!! dear lord!!

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Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

madsnakehhh

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

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#88 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

charlesdarwin55

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

Voice acting makes every game good. Like DNF.
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#90 Cheese-Muffins
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

charlesdarwin55

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

A) Doesn't have crap graphics

B) You don't need voice acting.

C) Music is still some of the best ever, and one track is even orchestrated.

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#91 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

charlesdarwin55

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

The only thing that makes sense there is that the music is not orchestrated. But hell I would take Ocarina of Times music over almost any other games music. not to mentiont he game does NOT need VA. It would actually make me mad if they did that to this classic. And as for graphics, this is the 3DS, not the Vita, not the PS3, not a PC. It looks pretty nice and they added a lot of detail that the originally did not have. Not too mention master quest, the boss mode, and a much better item management and HUD display solution.

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#92 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

charlesdarwin55

IT isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

Judging it with 3DS standards. Or judging it with what kind of games are already on 3DS standards. Or judging it with the kind of games in it's genre already on the 3DS standards. Either way. This says a high score.

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#93 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="Cheese-Muffins"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

A) Doesn't have crap graphics

B) You don't need voice acting.

C) Music is still some of the best ever, and one track is even orchestrated.

A) Yes it is B) Doesn't need good gameplay or anything. In fact every game in the world is 10/10 C) No it isn't. And even if it was it's still bad quality
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#94 IPWNDU2
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

charlesdarwin55

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

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#95 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="Cheese-Muffins"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

charlesdarwin55

A) Doesn't have crap graphics

B) You don't need voice acting.

C) Music is still some of the best ever, and one track is even orchestrated.

A) Yes it is B) Doesn't need good gameplay or anything. In fact every game in the world is 10/10 C) No it isn't. And even if it was it's still bad quality

lmao so your defense is...nothing? Or perhaps an opinion!?

A) Seriously the graphics are good for the 3DS.

B) What are you even trying to say? I thought we were talking about VA not gameplay.

C) Yes it is still some of the best music ever. If you dont think so...wonderful I am glad you have an opinion.

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#96 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

IPWNDU2

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

lmao ... how fitting of you to use a pokemon gif in a Nintendo based topic. well done.

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#97 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

NaveedLife

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

The only thing that makes sense there is that the music is not orchestrated. But hell I would take Ocarina of Times music over almost any other games music. not to mentiont he game does NOT need VA. It would actually make me mad if they did that to this classic. And as for graphics, this is the 3DS, not the Vita, not the PS3, not a PC. It looks pretty nice and they added a lot of detail that the originally did not have. Not too mention master quest, the boss mode, and a much better item management and HUD display solution.

I'm telling you you don't judge it on the same standard as other games. "It's ok there's no vioce acting(=huge gigantic flaw) cause it's a zelda game. Then why is other game's flaws not tolerated as this? And the fact that it would make you mad that they add something which would clearly make the game better (if it's done good) then you're clearly influenced by nostalgia aren't you?

DNF got lots of critisicm for its graphics, why not Zelda?

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#98 Cheese-Muffins
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[QUOTE="Cheese-Muffins"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

charlesdarwin55

A) Doesn't have crap graphics

B) You don't need voice acting.

C) Music is still some of the best ever, and one track is even orchestrated.

A) Yes it is B) Doesn't need good gameplay or anything. In fact every game in the world is 10/10 C) No it isn't. And even if it was it's still bad quality

So you think somehow adding voice acting makes the game so much more? :? VA is the least of any worries in a game. Also, the graphics are great for the 3DS. Music still has great melodies, and is some of the most memorable of all time. While yes, it would be nice to have them all orchestrated, it doesn't take away the experience of playing the game. The Final Credits song is orchestrated btw - not sure if that's what you were denying or not.

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#99 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, does anyone is really surprised by this? A superb game will always be a superb game, no doubt a must have when i get a 3DS.

charlesdarwin55

It isn't superb if it got crap graphics, no voiceacting and midi music(kinda). OR you are not judging it with todays standards.

So? in your logic, Chrono Trigger is not a good game (midi music)? Doom 2 is not a good game(Voice Acting)? StarCraft is not a good game(Crap Graphics)? Oh God, thank Heavens i don't share your twisted logic.

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#100 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="Cheese-Muffins"]

A) Doesn't have crap graphics

B) You don't need voice acting.

C) Music is still some of the best ever, and one track is even orchestrated.

A) Yes it is B) Doesn't need good gameplay or anything. In fact every game in the world is 10/10 C) No it isn't. And even if it was it's still bad quality

lmao so your defense is...nothing? Or perhaps an opinion!?

A) Seriously the graphics are good for the 3DS.

B) What are you even trying to say? I thought we were talking about VA not gameplay.

C) Yes it is still some of the best music ever. If you dont think so...wonderful I am glad you have an opinion.

A) pics or it didn't happen. B) I'm saying no voiceacting=flaw. If it don't need VA u can justify any game's flaw like that. C) No it isn't. If you think so...wonderful I am glad you have an opinion. Now if we look at it objectively if you like the music or not is preference but the quality is plain bad.